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Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Spanishmilf(m): 12:29pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Can the russia go head to head with the usa No nuclear weapon? Who do you think would win with proof/fact? |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by obedience4(m): 12:59pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Any war fought against the USA will be fought in the country continent. Russia doesn't have the means to invade the continental USA or even get to the mainland.. The USA has military bases scattered over Europe. In fact the USA have a USA Europe military command headquarters in Germany. Russia military is old and in decline, China will successful conduct an amphibious Landing in the Russian black sea coast, 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by oz4real83(m): 12:59pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Without nukes, Russia stands no chance against the US, most Russian weapons are outdated, as small as Ukraine is in military power ranking, Russia is still struggling against them, how much US. I believe Russia can't even take on India, Brazil or china. 6 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by boltwings: 1:30pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
oz4real83:if Russia go hard on Ukraine, you guys will be shouting war crime. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by haaryobhami: 2:46pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
In a conventional war Usa bodies Russia ,Usa has naval and air superiority and you can’t even fight usa on there own land cause the citizens are as armed as some country military. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by seunny4lif(m): 3:02pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
oz4real83: And USA weapons are new Abi or do you think F16, F15 and B52 were built last year. How many USA weapons are new, tell us apart from F22 and the most grounded F35, that have crashed more than any latest jets. How did USA won in Vietnam, with over 50K USA troops killed and even though they dropped more bombs in Vietnam than WW2. Afghanistan with all the bombing everyday and over 2T spent, 20 years, yet Talibans without any supports like Ukraine troops are getting beat USA out of Afghanistan. And for your information, the USA law says any missiles attack on USA soil means USA will respond with nukes. Nuke first strikes. 10 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by tamdun: 3:17pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
How many wars US don win and remember that US don't always fight alone 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by pansophist(m): 4:03pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Spanishmilf: If the war is fought inside Russia, as in, the US wants to invade Russia the same way Napoleon and Hitler did, then the US will lose. If Russia will go to the US for invasion, then Russia will lose. This is not a yes or no answer, logistics and comparative advantages play a key role here. It's the same reason why the US couldn't defeat the Taliban because the home advantage is the single, biggest advantage an opponent can have. 23 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by pansophist(m): 4:04pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
oz4real83: This one is drunk on mainstream media cool-aid. How can Russia military be outdated, and somehow, the US dont want to go and fight it? 19 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
You guys need to understand that determining the winner or loser in any war depends on the objectives of the war from either side. If the aim was to destroy Ukraine, Russia would have easily done that. Also, if the aim was full scale invasion, things would have gone better. However, Russia went in to apply pressure and scare Ukraine into submission. That didn't work out and the Russians are upgrading their strategy. Having said that, neither Russia nor USA can invade the other. If the war is fought on neutral territory, USA has an advantage over Russia and will likely defeat the second most powerful military in the world. The US simply has a great deal of fire power. That said, wars are usually not that simple. In real life scenarios, there will be several other factors involved. 5 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by lordm(m): 11:32pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
It depends on where the war would be. But USA has a better military than Russia, you can't even compare their military budgets. USA any day anytime. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by olugabbie(m): 5:38am On Jan 05, 2023 |
obedience4: Russia has enormous stockpile of anti-ship missiles. No country in the world can carry out a successful amphibious landing on Russian territory. It is impossible. In fact aircraft carrier is useless against Russia. Why do you think US is arming Taiwan with anti-ship missiles? The only way Russia can be invaded is through Ukraine (not even the Baltic). I am 100% sure that no country will allow US to use it territory to invade Russia, because with or without NUKE, that country will be wrecked. 4 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kewtt: 6:28am On Jan 05, 2023 |
atmy1:They have been fighting by proxy for decades. The most recent was were the Russian forces stopped the US backed regime change in Syria. Assad government survived because the Russian forces including Wagner gave them massive support. Us was defeated in Syria. 6 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 7:21am On Jan 05, 2023 |
seunny4lif:stop crying like an unpaid LovePeddler. in the 20yrz of american stay in afghan, power was in the hands of none talliban official until they decided to leave. abi tallibans gave them notice to leave ? since afghan isn't their soil, then they must leave one day and the did. Russia always fighting and losing backyard wars. local champs 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 7:30am On Jan 05, 2023 |
pansophist:they invaded afghan, changed their regime, chased tallibans far away frm governance for 20yearz, and u called it american defeat. AMERICA WASN'T THERE TO GRAB LANDS, AMERICA WASN'T THERE TO STAY FOR EVER AND U KNOW THIS 100%. AMERICA MADE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THEIR WITHDRAWAL FROM THE NATION BT YET THEIR WASN'T ANY STRIKE ON THEM BY TALLIBANS UNTIL THEY ALL LEFT UNHURT. PUTARDS AND REASONING GAT NTN IN COMMON. SOMEONE THAT FAUGHT ONLY LOCAL WARS IS THEN STRONGER THAN THAT WITH SOO MANY INTERNATION INFLUENCE. NO CARRIER AT ALL 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 7:35am On Jan 05, 2023 |
pansophist:russia is in the position to fight u.s now since the u.s is causing havoc to them through ukraine. they should fulfill their threat of nuking the states or any of their ally |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 7:37am On Jan 05, 2023 |
pansophist:just guess if america is fighting mexico, cuba , costa rica, etc millitarily. the local champion can't defeat weak neighbours |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 7:41am On Jan 05, 2023 |
US once tried to invade Cuba and failed. Check up Bay of Pigs invasion. Like I said. Objectives determine victory of defeat. America lost in Afghanistan, period. Kelvin3476: 5 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 7:42am On Jan 05, 2023 |
olugabbie:let them finish of ukraine first. i am now cnvinced that russia cannot fight any nation that does nt hav a land border with them |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 8:18am On Jan 05, 2023 |
They are doing fine in Syria na. Kelvin3476: 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 9:01am On Jan 05, 2023 |
atmy1:what is the distance frm syria to russia ? they aren't mly doing fine. |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 9:06am On Jan 05, 2023 |
atmy1:what was the objective of the u.s in afghan ? define the word " defeat " using ur own terms in regards to what happened in russia ? did u.s militarily tried invading cuba while the armed force of cuba faught off the u.s military ? answer this questions . u want to let me remember how they russia ran away frm cuba and let them starve in ruins uptill toward without rendering any help. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by obedience4(m): 9:31am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Kelvin3476: Bro bro bro, what wrong with you.. Why wasting your time on this clowns. The bay of pigs was a CIA operations arming some Cuba men to take over the presidential palaces of Castro, it wasn't a military operation, it is What the CIA likes to call clandestine operation, it was to remove Castro from power not take on the armed forces of Cuba.. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by obedience4(m): 9:34am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Kewtt: Seems you are not current,?? The USA involvement in Syria, was backing the Kurdish fighters against ISIS. Please be informed, the Only time the USA conducted a military strike against Assad forces, was when Assad user nerve gas on its citizens and the USA navy using the lovely tomahawk missile struck the Syria armies, Note this was twice in Obama regime. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 9:52am On Jan 05, 2023 |
obedience4: I STILL WANT THAT CLOWN TO ANSER MY QUESTION. ANYONE THAT SUPPORTS PUTIN IS LIKELY TO SUPPORTIN TINUBU. THEY SPEAK VERY LIKE FOOLS 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Geniuelander: 10:04am On Jan 05, 2023 |
obedience4: Kelvin3476: Two Grown up Crying and Consoling themselves 3 Likes
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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 10:07am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Geniuelander:CAN U HELP U FELLOW CLOWN ANSWER MY QUESTION ? |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Geniuelander: 10:30am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Kelvin3476: Thou should not cry it's too early Moreover why the begging FFS |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 10:35am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Geniuelander: a low life person u can go ahead and edit ur family future. am nt a begger and wil neva be. edit this quote too since u aren't well enough to counter any quote without editing |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by bassdow: 11:43am On Jan 05, 2023 |
atmy1: Now this is someOne talking. Russia is very very difficult to inVADE for many reasons of which their LandMass size is one. USA might be difficult to inVADE mostly because most of it's citizens are Armed with guns already. USA would equally have another advantage because they have built Millitary bases in several countries hence a War with USA is never gonna be a balanced War - it would look like a single Man fighting an entire City. We should remember that Who wins in Wars are not easy to determine. See wetin happen for Israel for instance. meanwhile, a lot of people don't know Russia isn't interested in damaging Ukraine - they just want them to honour their agreement of never becoming a NATO member. Russia suffered huge looses the early stages because the jumped into the waiting hands of long range Projectile weapons. Ever since they adjusted, their looses has reduced a lot. At end of the day, Russia & USA are 2 countries that hardly would fight one another. A single Nuke into USA would have much more devastating effects than 3-NUKEs into Russia. Don't forget Russia isn't overPopulated and they have the largest landMass |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by bassdow: 11:45am On Jan 05, 2023 |
lordm: Amount USA invests in their military doesn't seem to be yielding viable outcomes. or maybe those budgets goes into paying their Salaries |
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Karnice600: 11:46am On Jan 05, 2023 |
pansophist: This is flawed. Not all wars are invasion. A non nuclear war between the US and Russia will not likely be a guerrilla warfare. It's going to more of ICBMs for Russia, with Alaska in view. Russia would also want to leverage on their hypersonic missiles too. Pushing her troops across the Atlantic to face a formidable US, won't be realistic, since Russia has a loud reputation for logistical blunders, plus it's capacity to project force over a long distance is comparably minimal. Russia will seek for a total annihilation of the mainland US by hundreds of long range missiles at a go towards the US. Submarines too would even make it disastrous for the US. The US on the other hand, will be prepared to end such war before it even begins. With a formidable air power, there's no doubt the Russian airspace will be invaded and dominated in less than 54 hours. Russian air defences will do some great job, but I doubt they'll be able to see every important moves in the sky. They've proven themselves blind to the Western air maneuvers in many instances. This won't be different. HIMARS have proven to be a nightmare to the Russians. You can bet something deadlier than HIMARS would be effectively involved. Both countries will suffer huge losses, but Russia will lose out . Losing their skies will be their undoing and that would be one of the US's first moves. That war won't last up to 4 months or 5 at most. Lest I forget, the war would likely spill into orbit, targeting satellites, jamming radio signals. In this kind of war the US is sure to get bruised, but Russia will bleed more and lose out woefully on the long run. 3 Likes |
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