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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Karnice600: 11:58am On Jan 05, 2023
olugabbie:


Russia has enormous stockpile of anti-ship missiles. No country in the world can carry out a successful amphibious landing on Russian territory. It is impossible. In fact aircraft carrier is useless against Russia. Why do you think US is arming Taiwan with anti-ship missiles?

The only way Russia can be invaded is through Ukraine (not even the Baltic). I am 100% sure that no country will allow US to use it territory to invade Russia, because with or without NUKE, that country will be wrecked.

Can you please keep quiet.
Ask questions on things you don't understand.

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Karnice600: 12:06pm On Jan 05, 2023
obedience4:



Seems you are not current,?? The USA involvement in Syria, was backing the Kurdish fighters against ISIS.
Please be informed, the Only time the USA conducted a military strike against Assad forces, was when Assad user nerve gas on its citizens and the USA navy using the lovely tomahawk missile struck the Syria armies,
Note this was twice in Obama regime.


Trump's administration, I think.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 12:11pm On Jan 05, 2023
olugabbie:


Russia has enormous stockpile of anti-ship missiles. No country in the world can carry out a successful amphibious landing on Russian territory. It is impossible. In fact aircraft carrier is useless against Russia. Why do you think US is arming Taiwan with anti-ship missiles?

The only way Russia can be invaded is through Ukraine (not even the Baltic). I am 100% sure that no country will allow US to use it territory to invade Russia, because with or without NUKE, that country will be wrecked.

Why would anybody carry out an amphibious sea landing on Russia territory, when there is a smooth terrain from East Europe to Moscow?
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jan 05, 2023
US has left Afghanistan, Russia is still in Ukraine. Yes, they ran into challenges but they are correcting those challenges, so, yet they have not been defeated.
Kelvin3476:

what was the objective of the u.s in afghan ?
define the word " defeat " using ur own terms in regards to what happened in russia ?
did u.s militarily tried invading cuba while the armed force of cuba faught off the u.s military ?

answer this questions .

u want to let me remember how they russia ran away frm cuba and let them starve in ruins uptill toward without rendering any help.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 12:41pm On Jan 05, 2023
Please can you define America's objectives in Afghanistan? if it doesn't involve removing the Taliban, then I am mistaken.
Like I said, victory or defeat depends on the objectives.
Kelvin3476:
they invaded afghan, changed their regime, chased tallibans far away frm governance for 20yearz, and u called it american defeat.
AMERICA WASN'T THERE TO GRAB LANDS, AMERICA WASN'T THERE TO STAY FOR EVER AND U KNOW THIS 100%.

AMERICA MADE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THEIR WITHDRAWAL FROM THE NATION BT YET THEIR WASN'T ANY STRIKE ON THEM BY TALLIBANS UNTIL THEY ALL LEFT UNHURT.

PUTARDS AND REASONING GAT NTN IN COMMON.

SOMEONE THAT FAUGHT ONLY LOCAL WARS IS THEN STRONGER THAN THAT WITH SOO MANY INTERNATION INFLUENCE.
NO CARRIER AT ALL
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by olugabbie(m): 1:04pm On Jan 05, 2023
castro2468:


Why would anybody carry out an amphibious sea landing on Russia territory, when there is a smooth terrain from East Europe to Moscow?

Because no country in Europe will allow it country to used by the US to attack Russia. Not even Ukraine (especially after peace has been restored).

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by olugabbie(m): 1:05pm On Jan 05, 2023
Karnice600:


Can you please keep quiet.
Ask questions on things you don't understand.

What information have you passed with the above statement? If you don't have anything to contribute, just read and move on.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by olugabbie(m): 1:08pm On Jan 05, 2023
Kelvin3476:
let them finish of ukraine first.

i am now cnvinced that russia cannot fight any nation that does nt hav a land border with them

Russia is not interested in attacking any nation, except if it security is under threat. It is not United States the engage in such.

Russian military is designed to defend Russia.

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by olugabbie(m): 1:10pm On Jan 05, 2023
Kelvin3476:
let them finish of ukraine first.

i am now cnvinced that russia cannot fight any nation that does nt hav a land border with them

Russia is not interested in attacking any nation, except if it security is under threat. It is the United States that engage in such.

Russian military is designed to defend Russia and it interests.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 1:22pm On Jan 05, 2023
olugabbie:


Because no country in Europe will allow it country to used by the US to attack Russia. Not even Ukraine (especially after peace has been restored).

You sure??

In a no nuke war?
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by greatness77: 1:41pm On Jan 05, 2023
Karnice600:


This is flawed. Not all wars are invasion.
A non nuclear war between the US and Russia will not likely be a guerrilla warfare.
It's going to more of ICBMs for Russia, with Alaska in view. Russia would also want to leverage on their hypersonic missiles too. Pushing her troops across the Atlantic to face a formidable US, won't be realistic, since Russia has a loud reputation for logistical blunders, plus it's capacity to project force over a long distance is comparably minimal.
Russia will seek for a total annihilation of the mainland US by hundreds of long range missiles at a go towards the US. Submarines too would even make it disastrous for the US.
The US on the other hand, will be prepared to end such war before it even begins. With a formidable air power, there's no doubt the Russian airspace will be invaded and dominated in less than 54 hours. Russian air defences will do some great job, but I doubt they'll be able to see every important moves in the sky. They've proven themselves blind to the Western air maneuvers in many instances. This won't be different. HIMARS have proven to be a nightmare to the Russians. You can bet something deadlier than HIMARS would be effectively involved.
Both countries will suffer huge losses, but Russia will lose out . Losing their skies will be their undoing and that would be one of the US's first moves. That war won't last up to 4 months or 5 at most.
Lest I forget, the war would likely spill into orbit, targeting satellites, jamming radio signals.
In this kind of war the US is sure to get bruised, but Russia will bleed more and lose out woefully on the long run.
Russia is a major end time player, they will terrorise USA with long range ballistic missiles, remember USA throughout their history have never been heavily bombarded, Russians are battle hardened, they beat Hitler, Napoleon and king of Sweden during the swedish empire, Russians are durable in warfare, they are fighting the whole world in Ukraine, swedish artilleries is in Ukraine same with France Britain USA Poland Germany etc and other lethal weapons, Russia will beat USA to submission

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Otobong3374(m): 2:11pm On Jan 05, 2023
oz4real83:
Without nukes, Russia stands no chance against the US, most Russian weapons are outdated, as small as Ukraine is in military power ranking, Russia is still struggling against them, how much US. I believe Russia can't even take on India, Brazil or china.
Thank You Brother For Saying The Truth. Back In The Days I Used To Say That Russia Is Capable Dominate USA But I Didn't Know That Russian Forces Are Smiggling With Outdated Nuclear Weapons. If Russia Dare Fight With China, Sorry For Them Because Russia Would Be Wiped Out On Planet Earth,
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by haaryobhami: 2:12pm On Jan 05, 2023
greatness77:
Russia is a major end time player, they will terrorise USA with long range ballistic missiles, remember USA throughout their history have never been heavily bombarded, Russians are battle hardened, they beat Hitler, Napoleon and king of Sweden during the swedish empire, Russians are durable in warfare, they are fighting the whole world in Ukraine, swedish artilleries is in Ukraine same with France Britain USA Poland Germany etc and other lethal weapons, Russia will beat USA to submission
This pootin fanboys are clowns eh,this same Russia will beat USA Into submission ? I like how you guys enjoy living in your own bubble . Usa is not even supplying there best weapons to ukraine ,ukraine don’t even have a functioning Air Force and Russia is struggling but Russia will defeat usa with usa naval and air superiority .
They should first defeat HIMARS (USA has an upgrade on HIMARS btw )
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 2:18pm On Jan 05, 2023
haaryobhami:

This pootin fanboys are clowns eh,this same Russia will beat USA Into submission ? I like how you guys enjoy living in your own bubble . Usa is not even supplying there best weapons to ukraine ,ukraine don’t even have a functioning Air Force and Russia is struggling but Russia will defeat usa with usa naval and air superiority .
They should first defeat HIMARS (USA has an upgrade on HIMARS btw )

Well, China didn't even supply their best weapon to Vietnam. Vietnam don't even have a functioning air force and USA struggled with it for almost 20 years even with the assistance of UK, France and several other allies? Russia is still in Ukraine but USA ran from Vietnam with their tails behind their legs. USA should be ashamed of not winning any war since WW2.

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Otobong3374(m): 2:19pm On Jan 05, 2023
Spanishmilf:

Can the russia go head to head with the usa
No nuclear weapon?
Who do you think would win with proof/fact?
If Russia Go Head To Head With The USA Without Using Of Nuclear Weapons, USA Will Win Them With Big Margina. This Ukraine War Has Revealed The Secret Of Russia To The World. Could You Believe That Even With Nuclear Weapons Russia Is Still Struggling With Ukraine, Which Is Not Suppose To Be So.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Otobong3374(m): 2:22pm On Jan 05, 2023
Karnice600:


Can you please keep quiet.
Ask questions on things you don't understand.
My Brother Tell Him Something Because He Is Speaking What He Doesn't Know
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Otobong3374(m): 2:33pm On Jan 05, 2023
boltwings:
if Russia go hard on Ukraine, you guys will be shouting war crime.
Chai! This Boy What Is Useless. Tell Me What Russia Is Doing With Ukraine? Russia Is Using Nuclear Weapons On Ukraine, What Do You Think Is That?? So You Are Thinking Russia Is Using Soft Hands On Ukraine? You Must Be Stupid If You Think In Such A Way. Russia Is Using Every Tactic To Win Ukraine Which Is Russia Is Aiming On Ukraine Civillians. Is It Hard Hand Russia Is Using On Ukraine?? A War That Is Fought With Nuclear Weapons Is What?? I Think You Are A Kid & You Don't Know What You Are Saying.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Otobong3374(m): 2:44pm On Jan 05, 2023
seunny4lif:


And USA weapons are new Abi or do you think F16, F15 and B52 were built last year.

How many USA weapons are new, tell us apart from F22 and the most grounded F35, that have crashed more than any latest jets.

How did USA won in Vietnam, with over 50K USA troops killed and even though they dropped more bombs in Vietnam than WW2.
Afghanistan with all the bombing everyday and over 2T spent, 20 years, yet Talibans without any supports like Ukraine troops are getting beat USA out of Afghanistan.

And for your information, the USA law says any missiles attack on USA soil means USA will respond with nukes.
Nuke first strikes.
I Know You Are A Kid. For Using Afghanistan & Vietnam To Clasify USA & It Means U Don't Anything About America. I Know U Never Travel To America & I Know That You From Shithole Country That Fill Up With Brainless People. When You Want To Use Afghanistan And Vietnam To Downgrade America First Of All Do Research Be4 Sayng Rubbish.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Otobong3374(m): 2:48pm On Jan 05, 2023
seunny4lif:


And USA weapons are new Abi or do you think F16, F15 and B52 were built last year.

How many USA weapons are new, tell us apart from F22 and the most grounded F35, that have crashed more than any latest jets.

How did USA won in Vietnam, with over 50K USA troops killed and even though they dropped more bombs in Vietnam than WW2.
Afghanistan with all the bombing everyday and over 2T spent, 20 years, yet Talibans without any supports like Ukraine troops are getting beat USA out of Afghanistan.

And for your information, the USA law says any missiles attack on USA soil means USA will respond with nukes.
Nuke first strikes.
If I May Ask What Made America To Bounced Into Afghans Country?? Let Me See If You Are Walking With Brain. If You Do Copy & Paste I Will Know It.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Karnice600: 2:55pm On Jan 05, 2023
greatness77:
Russia is a major end time player, they will terrorise USA with long range ballistic missiles, remember USA throughout their history have never been heavily bombarded, Russians are battle hardened, they beat Hitler, Napoleon and king of Sweden during the swedish empire, Russians are durable in warfare, they are fighting the whole world in Ukraine, swedish artilleries is in Ukraine same with France Britain USA Poland Germany etc and other lethal weapons, Russia will beat USA to submission
You think it's a football match. You beat this and beat that. Beat fire.
I guess you would've used the same yardstick to determine the outcome of the less than a week Arabian war against Israel. Funny.
Go and read about the Russian war ideology and the American war doctrine.
America too has history of previous conquests. What happened in WWII wasn't Russia's to take home alone. That glory is shared among the allies.
Russia ought to have seized Kiev before now. Don't tell me it's a deliberate outcome from Putin.
Put Nuclear aside, Russia doesn't have what it takes to burn America. Besides explosives, you need smart logistics and effective strategy. But sorry no country on earth seem to have that now, more than America does. The Israelis come close a bit, but not on par.
Please take some time off to read. It's a new year.

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 2:58pm On Jan 05, 2023
atmy1:
US has left Afghanistan, Russia is still in Ukraine. Yes, they ran into challenges but they are correcting those challenges, so, yet they have not been defeated.
Is this how u answer questions ?
i asked u questions regarding ur previous quote bt u didn't answer any.
u only came close to answering 1 via ur first statement where u corrected the defeat to left , bt stil didn't answer them.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by pansophist(m): 3:11pm On Jan 05, 2023
olugabbie:


Russia has enormous stockpile of anti-ship missiles. No country in the world can carry out a successful amphibious landing on Russian territory. It is impossible. In fact aircraft carrier is useless against Russia. Why do you think US is arming Taiwan with anti-ship missiles?

The only way Russia can be invaded is through Ukraine (not even the Baltic). I am 100% sure that no country will allow US to use it territory to invade Russia, because with or without NUKE, that country will be wrecked.

@bolded, exactly, that is why `Ukraine is a do-or-die affair for the Russians. Of all the countries bordering Russia, only Ukraine is the leak that Russia can be invaded, and all previous invasions from Napoleon and Hitler came from there.

Russia will rather wreck and destroy Ukraine than let it join Nato or belong to the western alliance. No amount of sanctions, media badmouthing, and political isolation will stop Russia. Ukraine is a matter of existence for the Russians. And would you blame them?

Wars are won before the battle begins, and if Ukraine joins nato, then Russia already lost even when there is no war yet. Russia understands this, the west does, and every geopolitical pundit does as well.

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Kelvin3476: 3:21pm On Jan 05, 2023
atmy1:
Please can you define America's objectives in Afghanistan? if it doesn't involve removing the Taliban, then I am mistaken.
Like I said, victory or defeat depends on the objectives.

Since u refuses to go straight with the ansa, then lemme ansa urz with a little question.

for the past 20yrz u.s was in AFGHAN ; who was the president of afghan--- ( tallibans or civilians of afghan ) ?
did the u.s sign a life time deal to stay and protect afghan ?

who was in power when the u.s left afghan ?

the objective of u.s is to change regime. which the did.

to train and equipt afghan military, which the did too.

then why won't they leave afghan after playing their part and letting the afghan military do the defending .
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by haaryobhami: 3:56pm On Jan 05, 2023
atmy1:


Well, China didn't even supply their best weapon to Vietnam. Vietnam don't even have a functioning air force and USA struggled with it for almost 20 years even with the assistance of UK, France and several other allies? Russia is still in Ukraine but USA ran from Vietnam with their tails behind their legs. USA should be ashamed of not winning any war since WW2.
russia already lost more personnel than usa lost in Vietnam even though they are fighting at there backyard btw ,didn’t take long for usa to chase taliban out of Afghanistan and stayed there for 20 years before deciding to leave meanwhile Russia can’t show there ugly head in Kyiv.
Even pootin will be marvelled the way his fanboys overhype him
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Geniuelander: 7:06pm On Jan 05, 2023
Kelvin3476:


a low life person u can pls go ahead and edit my family future.
am nt a begger and wil neva be but I'm begging you now.
edit your quote because have edit mine too since u are well enough to counter my quote without editing
Please edit your quote I'm begging embarassed embarassed embarassed cry cry


Okay Boi
I will
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by olugabbie(m): 7:51pm On Jan 05, 2023
castro2468:


You sure??

In a no nuke war?

It is nuclear weapon that Russia is using to wreck Ukraine?
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 8:24pm On Jan 05, 2023
If you believe those funny figures from western and ukrainian sources analysts you are a fool. This is because different western sources are giving conflicting numbers an this is a proof that they may all be lying. As for Ukraine, the EU chief, Von Leyen recently said over 100k Ukrainian troops are dead. That is even a conservative estimate. The last time the Russians announced their losses, it was just about 6,000. I acknowledge that is high but not close to America's acknowledged 50,000 dead in Vietnam.
haaryobhami:
russia already lost more personnel than usa lost in Vietnam even though they are fighting at there backyard btw ,didn’t take long for usa to chase taliban out of Afghanistan and stayed there for 20 years before deciding to leave meanwhile Russia can’t show there ugly head in Kyiv.
Even pootin will be marvelled the way his fanboys overhype him

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Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by texazzpete(m): 9:50pm On Jan 05, 2023
Spanishmilf:

Can the russia go head to head with the usa
No nuclear weapon?
Who do you think would win with proof/fact?

Lmao, is it even up for debate?

They'd crush the Russian army completely.

Their major challenge would be how to deal with the post war insurgency.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by haaryobhami: 3:35am On Jan 06, 2023
atmy1:
If you believe those funny figures from western and ukrainian sources analysts you are a fool. This is because different western sources are giving conflicting numbers an this is a proof that they may all be lying. As for Ukraine, the EU chief, Von Leyen recently said over 100k Ukrainian troops are dead. That is even a conservative estimate. The last time the Russians announced their losses, it was just about 6,000. I acknowledge that is high but not close to America's acknowledged 50,000 dead in Vietnam.
but you believe all the lies from Russia media a country with no independent media ,you are the bigger fool here .if Russia said no soilder died so far in ukraine your dumbass will probably believe ozwur
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by sunboy(m): 5:35am On Jan 06, 2023
No nukes involved, Russia has no chance against US and China. Not a debate.
Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by Nobody: 7:33am On Jan 06, 2023
So you believe the info from Ukraine? A country that claimed someone brought down a drone with a can of potato? A govt that has banned all opposition parties, kills anybody advocating for negotiation and attacks churches? There is also the ghost of kiev and the snake island incidents; both lies that were pushed by western media. Did you know that since Russia started bombing Ukrainian infrastructure most western journalist had left the place and now rely on Ukrainian sources? I would rather believe independent freelancers who are present in the ground and are neutral. You and your other western asslickers are so dumb. Please enjoy your dumbness untill reality strikes you.

I am sure if Ukraine and the western media says ukraine has no casualty you will believe.
haaryobhami:
but you believe all the lies from Russia media a country with no independent media ,you are the bigger fool here .if Russia said no soilder died so far in ukraine your dumbass will probably believe ozwur

Re: Russia Vs Usa (no Nukes) by greatness77: 8:14am On Jan 06, 2023
Karnice600:

You think it's a football match. You beat this and beat that. Beat fire.
I guess you would've used the same yardstick to determine the outcome of the less than a week Arabian war against Israel. Funny.
Go and read about the Russian war ideology and the American war doctrine.
America too has history of previous conquests. What happened in WWII wasn't Russia's to take home alone. That glory is shared among the allies.
Russia ought to have seized Kiev before now. Don't tell me it's a deliberate outcome from Putin.
Put Nuclear aside, Russia doesn't have what it takes to burn America. Besides explosives, you need smart logistics and effective strategy. But sorry no country on earth seem to have that now, more than America does. The Israelis come close a bit, but not on par.
Please take some time off to read. It's a new year.
your almighty america formed alliance of more than 20 countries of which four is a former great empire just to counter Russia, USA doesn't like their military or citizens to die massively that's why they can never envade any country alone, they were kicked out of Vietnam by farmers grin grin grin grin

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