raumdeuter:


Only a legislative arm that has never heard of what's called impeachment that will go through timewasting lawsuits

Serve the president with impeachment notice and he will adjust sharply

Most Nigerians don't really know how governance works in a democracy.

A president will have to humble himself a lot to get anything done

BlueRayDick:


I believe in Africans looking within and finding their own system of government that suits them. Democracy leaves room for so many excesses while some of our traditional system of government in the past also had checks and balances in place . We should look at working something out for ourselves .

raumdeuter:


Only a legislative arm that has never heard of what's called impeachment that will go through timewasting lawsuits

Serve the president with impeachment notice and he will adjust sharply

Most Nigerians don't really know how governance works in a democracy.

A president will have to humble himself a lot to get anything done

OasisX:




I'll accept your challenge under one condition. Show me any sensible take from any Obidient since creation of this thread.

You guys craving for intelligent discussions, when majority of you don't do that - even you.

Until after Election, I'll be here to piss you guys off.

User09:


Cant speak on this as I do not have all the information. Besides, I highly doubt that story, Probably missing some key elements.

My point was looking at the debt service to revenue wasnt putting it in context .

Although the argument could have been that the servicing cost is becoming increasing high and additional debt is still being taken to service the deficit. Worse off is that it is being used on recurrent items and unproductive things like managing subsidy.

That I think is the main issue

BlueRayDick:


Obasanjo saw shege with this impeachment script for Atiku hand . I read how OBJ had to start changing senate presidents just to foil several impeachment attempts on him.

Those things that are meant to be checks and balances in from the west whom we copied the system of government have been weaponized in our own democracy

iamoyindamola:
See better argument that's moving steady and educating, one unfortunate soul will just wake up and spam here with screenshots and be shouting tribalist, gas lighting, wicked souls etc

BlueRayDick:


I believe in Africans looking within and finding their own system of government that suits them. Democracy leaves room for so many excesses while some of our traditional system of government in the past also had checks and balances in place . We should look at working something out for ourselves .

larride:


I agree with this only on the basis of finding solutions to different problems that plague us.

Democracy still remain the best form of government to me.

What we need is a different kind of approach to how we propose solutions to our problems. Because a model work in the west does not necessarily means it will work here, we must always factor in our peculiarities when proposing solutions and how it will affect our people. Our people do not think, reason and behave like people in the west so its unreasonable to model our solution the way they do theirs.

That's why most of these copy and paste solution that our leaders do fail because they fail to put into consideration the peculiarities of their people.

raumdeuter:


You know the Oba Emir and Ezes words are final. An Oba can decide that hclaims your wife your property your land or decide to jerk up your tax

Imagine say na person like Oluwo of Iwo be the traditional ruler of Nigeria with Supreme power
He will just appoint you as the royal weed wrapper for the kingdom

People of Iwo are kind of thankful that he is not the final say and still answerable to a democratic govt in some ways

liveLongNprospa:


If you ever accuse someone of being a tribalist again going forward thunder will bleach your face with slap.. Do you agree?

GloriousGbola:


the nigerian problem is and will always be corruption imho

corruption exists everywhere - but in most other places - it ends at 10% or it ends at kickback

but too many nigerians are prepared for a level of corruption that will compromise the project, national security , food security , basic safety.

this replocates in all sectors and so here we are.

the whole kidnapping business is also chop money for soldiers. if soldiers are getting thier cut from kidnappers, why would they be motivated to flush them out?

there are stories of nigerian lawyers compromising international cases that would cost this country billions of dollars

right now everyone simply adds settlement to cost of doing business

liveLongNprospa:


Even this evening, the conversation about the debt issue in Nigeria especially with the CBN, I pushed for it with my posts. Am I not an Obidient?
You have been using laugh and questions to respond to this conversation.. Lmaoooo

OasisX:




Sensible take not agenda driven post. Well, if you wanna know my previous engagements with sensible Posters on this board before one of you turns the thread to a war zone, read from page 15 to 50.

It will also open your eyes to how the thread started well with matured discourse, engagement until page 15.

Unlimited22:

Lol who'll have energy to follow discussions here? This thread is a placeholder.

raumdeuter:


I am thinking if they keep the same energy it will end

APC 16 states PDP 14 states LP 4 states and NNPP 2 states

liveLongNprospa:


So you are saying out of almost 1200 pages, your sensible takes where about just 15 pages... Hmmmmm you sef check am nau

Oasis007:


Underestimating Atiku? Never! But he needs to start cooking now before it's too late. He's losing his grips in the South.

He's no longer in good term with Seyi Makinde. The only PDP Governor at the moment in South West. In the East, majority seem Obidients already.

Anambra belong to APGA not PDP, thus it can swing in favour of Obi particularly. IMO, though, have an APC Governor, still I expect Peter to win it.

Ikpeazu and Enugu Governor are in solidarity with Wike, apparently, the two states can swing anywhere, but most likely to be won by Peter. Ebonyi, technically an APC state, but I expect Obi to win.

In South South, Atiku will win Bayelsa, Delta, Akwa Ibom but likely to lose Edo to Peter. Rivers State gonna swing except Wike finally agrees to work for Atiku. Cross River, another APC State, but I can't predict who's gonna win it.

South West?.... lockdown for Tinubu. All States in South West are on lockdown. North Central..... both APC and PDP gonna share it. Kwara, Nasarawa, Niger, Kogi gonna be won by APC, while Atiku will win Benue and likely Plateau.

North West?.... KKK are definitely gonna be won by APC. Katsina, Kaduna and Kebbi. Kano possibly will be won by Rabiu Kwankwaso, Atiku will win Sokoto and Jigawa while Zamfara will be delivered for APC.

North East?..... Borno and Yobe are already in the Bag for APC, especially if Shettima is chosen as running mate. Adamawa, Bauchi, Taraba gonna be won by Atiku. Gombe can swing in favour of APC or PDP, likely APC with very small margin.

izzou:


They didn't clear my doubt in 2019, when Nigeria was less harder, and I never said they weren't

But thinking they will give over 500k difference with other tribes in it, and a Muslim Muslim ticket will be cleared on that day

You go shock, my brother

OasisX:




..... exactly why this moniker is birthed. To troll you folks. I guess that's the language una understand.

Some of you joined the thread half way or just of recent but too lazy to glance through previous pages, especially first 100pgs.

We are in for a ride till after Election. Una go wail, cry tired.... X has just one mission on this board, just one mission.

OasisX:


..... small Assignment e no fit do, reading seems a taboo to many of you sha.... LMFAO

Person quoted post I made in June last year but rushed to ask this silly question;

Did you just admit that the same kano you were using to make noise yesterday will be won by Kwankwaso?

Intelligent chap in and out...... LOL

Ibime:


Try BUSD on Binance. Seankafor can put you through

Amoto94:
Tinubu is healthier than me -- Shettima.

liveLongNprospa:


Shey this bet is still on?
500k difference

BlueRayDick:


In ur opinion , where do u think the money to do all of these will be sourced ? Because the only thing that don’t require money in the above is cutting government spending ( and even cutting govt spendings May not be something he has full control over. He can only speak for the executive arm of the government and can’t do much as far as legislature and judiciary arms spendings are concerned )

DissTroy:


Same place Qatar and Saudi Arabia are currently sourcing the bulk of their income from - oil.

You might not be aware but 83% of oil drilled in Nigeria is unaccounted for. NNPC and the poorly-regulated sector are culpable.

If we could account for even 80% of our oil, our GDP would triple (and quadruple when you add our all-time high from ICT, and the one from trade).
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Even states lose a whole bulk of money unaccounted for through poor taxation systems and deliberate leaks. No state in Nigeria currently has a central taxation system which is somewhat effective. None.

Something like what New York has would greatly increase state revenues. From state taxation systems of different countries I have been studying, that is.
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We currently even have enough resources to fund our national ventures.

Amoto94:
Tinubu is healthier than me -- Shettima.

GloriousGbola:


the nigerian problem is and will always be corruption imho

corruption exists everywhere - but in most other places - it ends at 10% or it ends at kickback

but too many nigerians are prepared for a level of corruption that will compromise the project, national security , food security , basic safety.

this replocates in all sectors and so here we are.

the whole kidnapping business is also chop money for soldiers. if soldiers are getting thier cut from kidnappers, why would they be motivated to flush them out?

there are stories of nigerian lawyers compromising international cases that would cost this country billions of dollars

right now everyone simply adds settlement to cost of doing business