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Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by TheNewAgeFarmer(m): 5:36pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Don't mind this guy. The first year I rolocated from Lagos to benin it was really rough. As time went on I got myself on track and even had people living with me. The first year I started My car business it wasn't easy. I couldn't even differentiate engine of cars. when you leave Nigeria, please forget about making fast money to impress people back home. I have more than 20 family and friends in England and some parts of Europe and they are very honest with me and encourage me from time to time to migrate. New beginnings are always not rousy. Nigeria is even difficult. Can a cleaner live a comfortable life in Nigeria?. These threads are not necessary. If UK doesn't work we'll come back home and make the money the same way we made the money for journey. Even Nigeria is not easy for majority. Thortp: 6 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by junglej: 5:36pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
[ wow, this one nice oh please where in London do you get a 2 bed for £800 PCM? Transport for two people a whole month for £200? You quotes are not visible at all quote author=Thortp post=119940712]A family going on a student visa may experience a very rough 1st year due to the fact that only one spouse works full time as the student can only do 20 hours. 2nd year will be okay when both spouse works full time. Even the worst is both couples earn £1,500 each after tax = £3k/month. House rent PCM - £800 for 2bdrm apartment. Groceries - £300 maximum. Bills (electricity, water, gas) - £200 Internet - Home and mobile - £50 Transport - £200 Miscellaneous - £150 Balance = £1,300. That means the couple can conveniently save £1,300 every month provided it's a low job o. Save the £1,300 for 24 months (2years) = £31,000 that is 28million naira. You can now take it to Nigeria and invest in something good for yourself. That's another income without working. Now you get it[/quote] |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by Exceed15: 5:37pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Educative. |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sharpwriter(m): 5:43pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
AreaFada2:I'm not really interested in all of the talks here because this topic creeps up every now and then off and on nairaland. I think the bone of contention is in your last paragraph which I believe needs focus and people are more interested in it. Now, that you said it, it will be better for you and other abroad crew to give a robust explanation/answer. Cc: sukkot (I know are back, but help with the question). It goes thus: With all these experiences abroad which is not that palatable, WHY HAVEN'T YOU RELOCATED YET 2 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by Backpedal: 5:46pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
juman:What's wrong with working hard to make money 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by keepingmum: 5:51pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Paulheyman: I cannot advise u on the US but i know that from a health perspective, the UK is better as Healthcare is free at the point of delivery. The US relies on private healthcare and as one with a pre existing health condition, it can become expensive in the long run via the US. However, i understand the US has advance treatment management for SS due to the higher % of blacks. For the teaching route, its an amazing option because the skills are transferablr if u choose to relocate to the US/Canada/Australia or middle east aftet sometime however i will say this, teachers Re VERY poorly paid in the UK. Very very poorly paid (except those in private schs whom work under high stress - their jobs is almost like that of bankers in 9ja). Most teachers i know have to have a working spouse and/or offer private tutorials depending on the area they live. I ll suggest u check on the salary of UK teachers to verify. I am watching keenly to see the exact visa regulations on the teachers stuff when its fully published as i hope the visa will allow some leeway to take on 2nd jobs to supplement their main income. |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sukkot: 5:53pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sharpwriter:ahn ahn everybody knows am in naija na. you no see my threads where i am buying yam and plantain ? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by juman(m): 5:55pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Backpedal: Most cant work hard. They daily complain, wail and lament continuously as if they were forced to go abroad. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by ibkayee(f): 5:56pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sukkot: 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sukkot: 5:57pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sharpwriter:ahhhh my brother sharpwriter wehdone Sir, Happy new year to you. we pray for a prosperous 2023 AMEN 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sukkot: 5:58pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
[quote author=ibkayee post=120061565][/quote] wehdone my Sister |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by ibkayee(f): 5:58pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sukkot: 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by loucbou: 6:03pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Lol at your doggedness. Bros, get there first. Then come back and edit this post henro757: 3 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sharpwriter(m): 6:10pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
gaby:Boss! It may happen when the new inflow of naija teachers begins 2 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by victorsola: 6:13pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
henro757:do you realize what u are typing , how is 100 pounds less than 20k . That’s 93k danm it , a silver health insurance in axa mansard is about 73k year and they pay theirs monthly that’s not even tax that’s the premium . Nepa bill in nigeria is not a tax u pay for what u use if u have a prepaid meter . MOT and every other thing u mentioned are premium , which are yearly and they are not tax that are monthly. So if u look at it your analysis are not the same comparing premiums to tax . Don’t forget Dey pay their premiums and they also get taxed . And this Tax are heavy compared to nigeria that a lot don’t even pay directly. 2 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sharpwriter(m): 6:17pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sukkot:Okay, let me rephrase, why haven't they come back (those advising others to think twice before coming to the UK)? |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by AreaFada2: 6:17pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sharpwriter:A friend I have always helped in 9ja asked me this question when I was unable to help him once. He lives in Lagos and complained every now and then seeking help. I did my best each time. When I told him times are quite hard, he asked why I have not returned home yet. Mind you, each time he complained about difficulties of Lagos life, I never once asked him why he has not returned to his village or home state in Nigeria yet. Because I knew that after decades in Lagos, with kids, wife and life in Lagos, Lagos was now his home. I would be insulting him by saying return to your village. Now look at it this way. How easy is it to move from Lagos after 15 to 30 years back to Orlu, Iseyin, Kafachan or Ozoro at the age of 40 to 55, with young kids? Which job will you be doing in your village? There are clearly too many people stuck in Lagos and just managing but almost all never leave Lagos. Same in PH, KD and other cities. Well, it should be easy to realise also that those in US/Europe are also humans. Diaspora born and bred kids will find it hard adjusting to life in 9ja. Your ruling elite class are sending their kids abroad for quality education and you want to bring yours to 9ja? And you don't even have access to the huge money of politicians? I don't like living in Lagos, for example. Way too crowded and many parts dirty. Abuja is not where I want to be either. When I return by God's grace, it's to my hometown as a retiree. Investing in 9ja over the decades ended in huge losses. From bank shares, businesses, etc. Too much dishonesty. So the basis (established business and self-employment) for returning at a relatively young age was already gone. That left politics only. I resisted it because I don't like our brand of politics. You watched over the decades how everything you knew changed when visiting home. Community spirit, being brother's keeper, and all those things are gone. Returning to 9ja with no parents alive anymore and most of the great people and good things about 9ja that you once cherished gone, would be like moving to an entirely different/new country. The level of money consciousness and wanton display of affluence, even from questionable sources, are alarming. For most people who have lived abroad for decades, diaspora is now their home and that of their kids. 9ja is a memory with nostalgia. Houses built in 9ja are for holiday visits that the family enjoys for two to four weeks and leave again. And as an investment. As a kid, my local university, university hospital and schools were full of diaspora returnees, their oyinbo wives and kids, some Asians and a few Europeans as staff. Today our locally trained professionals are rushing abroad. For the quality of life that you manage to enjoy abroad, there are big trade-offs. These are what we try to make people aware of before they move abroad. 23 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sharpwriter(m): 6:18pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
[quote author=ibkayee post=120061565][/quote] So you were spying the thread without commenting? |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sharpwriter(m): 6:18pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sukkot:2023 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by ibkayee(f): 6:20pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sharpwriter:No I follow him so it appeared in my Following list 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by gaby(m): 6:24pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sharpwriter: In fact, I dey pray make e happen... By the time we dash them extra 2M immigrants all covertly sponsored by FG, dem go help us re-arrange the nonsense wey dem arrange as Nigeria. Crime and punishment. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by dupyshoo: 6:26pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Go on rightmove, Zoopla, openrent, onthemarket etc and you will see a lot of 3 bed houses within that range. UK is just not London. negy2016: 2 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by dupyshoo: 6:31pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
It depends on your area of experience. However, Chemical engineering jobs are a bit restricted to process industries, oil and gas, pharmaceuticals and the likes. bonnyhope: |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by Spiff20(m): 6:46pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Thortp:So that miscellaneous include clothing, shoes, gadget, and other cares of life that you can't avoid? 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by gozzlin: 6:50pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
emperorlaqrin: Good advice. You must be a Yoruba guy. I can perceive your strong Yorubatic accent from your write ups on this thread. |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by bonnyhope: 6:57pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
dupyshoo: Currently in production industry 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by sharpwriter(m): 7:05pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
AreaFada2:Hmmmm.... You have spoken well sir and I understand you. I see cruelty all over with the fault of African leaders. To me, I see various Nigerians and Africans stripped of their original identities as in the days of the trans Atlantic slave trade but in a more advanced and subtle way. But for naija people, no one cares, na anywhere belle face, dem don suffer enough, so na to go enjoy remain. After all the idea is that a slave master treats them better than their kin, hence, every place of comfort is home! 2 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by ArcFresky(m): 7:25pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Thortp: |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by iamL(f): 7:29pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
juman: Isn't that how it ought to be, Work hard to earn? Most people in this country making it are either they are politicians, ritualist, illegal business men, scammers, kidnappers, using fetishes means to boost their business, wicked government extortional workers e.t.c. You are propably a typical example. Hence they always say 'Naija na good hustling ground" because overseas you can't try these. Only a hand full of wealthy people are clean in this country. NB: Anything wey go make anybody children to be citizens of other countries abeg make the person run am legitimately. The world will get worst but Nigeria is already doomed. 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by AreaFada2: 7:31pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sharpwriter:Well, the thing is people have always moved. For whatever reasons. US population is almost as large as EU population today. Benin was already an Empire before US was even discovered by Columbus. As for slave master, it's an exaggeration these days. Nobody is forced to go work anywhere. I went to Uni with Americans, Canadians, Swedes, Saudi Arabians, Singaporeans, Australians, other Europeans, etc. Most stayed for further training and have remained in the country too. Indians, Chinese and Pakistanis migrate even more than 9ja. In some UK hospitals, you would think you are in India or Pakistan. One of 9ja's best assets are foreign trained workforce and work ethic honed over decades. Gradual progress based on hard work and dedication. No godfather, no long leg. 2 Likes |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by juman(m): 7:55pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
iamL: Talk is cheap. If you appear in paris or london this moment, before a week time you would be complaining bitterly about abroad. Go to youtube to see many people wailing about abroad. 1 Like |
Re: Advice To Every UK Japa Crew by Nwanna2588: 8:19pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
This is a cliche we have heard a thousand times. Based on the preponderance of the suffering in Nigeria, I don't have a choice but to relocate to such a highbrow country. As a teacher in Nigeria, I'm living in a 'survival mode'. I cannot remember the last time I save money. If I'm indignant it is because some of you that are based abroad have forgotten in a hurry how most of us are living from hand to mouth here. Honestly, I do not like you in that manner, and I wish you would stop advising me on this. I can only believe this when Nigerians based in the UK are coming home in mass without going back again. Since I had merely N100k in my name after almost 2 decades in teaching, I saw the japa thing as a very big opportunity. I prefer to pay taxes and have something to save than working in Nigeria without saving money. May be your advice is good for people that have made their mark in Nigeria. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
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