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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:33pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Correlation is not causation Nor be you talk am? So you are busy campaigning for Tinubu but does not want to live in a Tinubu Nigeria, but I am campaigning for Obi and is willing to live in an Obi Nigeria. That tells the difference between my reasoning and yours, and my intentions and yours. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:34pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Spy360: I lived in Tinubus Lagos and I saw the improvements in the state from 1999 to 2007, where he set the state on a path of continued greatness that we are still witnessing now That is my intention |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimffo(m): 4:36pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
We never even vote, them don dey complain about rigging. In 2015, Jonathan (PDP incubency) lost, and didn't rig it. In 2019, APC was incubency in Oyo state, PDP won free and fair, nobody complained rigging. Last year, PDP beat APC (Oyetola) in Osun state, no rigging. Last Year, a defected Governor (Obaseki) won his election in EDO, after he left the rulling party for PDP. No one complained of rigging. APGA won in Anambra. No rigging was recorded. But we have not cast the first ballot in this coming election, we are already thinking about rigging. If we want to check any historical facts, the election during this APC Presidency has been fairer than PDP days. (Obasanjo wey remove Ladoja with thugs and used Adedibu to do his dirty work.) BTW, Obi's influencers have said they will provide drones for every ward, so as to eliminate rigging. Please let them do. We don't want to hear any stupid complain, if they beat your candidate, let him/her enter his/her room. No stress anybody. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:39pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Bimffo:With the BVAS, I don't think rigging will be easy. The only area I am looking concerned is vote buying. Even that is being taken care of by Buhari and CBN. They know Tinubu can do the undo. Jagaban can bribe Nigeria is that's what it takes for 'emi lokan' 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:40pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Ihebu4chelsea: What is the best? Obi? The only positive of Obi's victory is that the people will now realize that power rests in their hands, and not the politicians But if you think he will change anything, well.... 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 4:42pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
I said these 5 months ago and it still rings true! Beware of narrative spinners. Never fall victim to them. Don't let yourself be gaslighted. donjazet: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 4:43pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou:I didnt mention anybody bro!! Maybe your Mind is telling you that |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:43pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Bimffo: The simple summary is that Regarding economy OBJ did way better than Buhari as Buhairi didn't have a clue of how to manage economy nor how to get the people that do while Buhari did better when it comes to politics. People have more faith that their votes would be counted unlike the days of OBJ You don't have opposition being gunned down, even opposition candidates are going to thank Buhari for being fair. Less Adedibu, Andy Uba, Alams, Dariye Bola-Ige Funsho Williams, Harry Marshalls, Dikibo etc 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:44pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
spy360 Obi or Arsenal no dey hide |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 4:44pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Spy360:Bvas?? Lol. Nothing will change bro. What happened to Card reader? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:45pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Ihebu4chelsea:I am just being optimistic bro. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:46pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:46pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:This one sickness is special We might be third time lucky |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 4:47pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou: You've always been a pessimist but we've always been proving you wrong. This mindset is an absolutely toxic one because I don't know what can be made of this mindset. Is it that you want people to lose hope or what? To resign themselves to faith or what? I'm actually curious about this. Meanwhile this was you at the onset of the Obi campaign, when we went for a rally even before he defected. izzou: 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:49pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Amoto will never bring this kind of news here When I said those assholes running Sharia is for their benefit What do we call this one https://gazettengr.com/sharia-court-judges-arrested-remanded-for-stealing-n580-2-million/?tztc=1 Na these people I will go to defend myself if my head won't roll on the floor 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 4:50pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou: I've said it before that if Obi wins, he will soon wish he hadn't. Too many Nigerians are betting on one man turning around 109 years of structural problems in a desperate throw of the dice. There is no chance that any president can live up to the expectations that Obidients are piling on this man. He will never be able to get any plaudits when he does anythng good, because it is expected. But woe betide the saviour of Nigerian politics if he ever does anything unpopular. It is better to be underrated than overrated, better to underpromise and overdeliver, than overpromise and flop. Say you want about the current political establishment, but the public expectation of these guys is so low that any good thing they do will actually be considered a bonus 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 4:53pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou: This sentence invalidates the rest of your post. You say "we cannot blame a thief for trying to steal", in this case you mean PDAPC but what you're leaving out is that people are actually hailing those theives and supporting those thieves which in this case calls for the absolute condemnation of the Thieves and their actions. We have to constantly shame the Thieves for trying to steal. Telling people to accept that reality that thieves will always be thieves is not a good message. We should always emphasize that stealing is wrong, in this case, vote buying by politicians.. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:55pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Donjazet2: I would have taken you seriously if you didn't support and vote APC in 2015 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:57pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
nihilistjnr: Exactly the same expectations piled on Buhari. We all know how it ended |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:59pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
nihilistjnr: Most of Obi supporters are not looking to him for performance nor believe he can perform. Most of them saw his regime in Anambra and saw nothing to write home about. Some even placed heavy curses on him and wished him bodily harm So for them its not about how he performs or not, Its just our man who represents my interest must be there which is how politics is played. An overwhelming majority of those supporting every candidate have never heard of their manifesto nor plans yet will vote them and demonize the opponent If Tinubu says I will remove subsidy the same people will say "what a wicked man", If Obi says the same I will remove subsidy the same people will say "what a genius" We have seen Its my turn being cast in positive and negative light depending on the speaker Earlier today we saw someone castigating One team for sharing bread and when his fave was shown to be sharing bread what did he do? He surely didn't condemn and drop his support for Obi nor tag it a shame like he did when it was Tinubu This is not limited to Obi and its the reason many people vote a candidate all over the world. Biden can be shitting on himself and muttering whatever yet his fans and CNN will always defend him just like Trump can do anything even tank the economy badly and he would still win I saw analysts on CNN last week twisting and turning on how to defend Biden having classified documents in his garage, Few months ago the same analysts were talking about Treason, and espionage when Trump did exactly the same thing Politics - It is what it is 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 4:59pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou: I do believe that it was the best thing to do and the fact that i can look towards an LP Obi presidency because of the growth of our democracy means that that decision was partly justified. Unlike you, who thinks we should fold out hands and do nothing while coming to complain everyday about how things are getting worse. You believe the country is being badly run but you want to make yourself believe you are powerless to do anything. That is the dictionary meaning of the word cowardice. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:59pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Donjazet2: So which is the easiest way to stop vote buying? Hope on the Police to arrest them? Or warning the people to decline the bread and akara? Which one is easier? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:01pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou: Till date many Buhari fans believed he did well. If Buhari contests elections in 2023 he is still likely to win His fans/supporters will always have excuses for him like for other politician in the world, Buhari did great, its the sun, its the rain, its the moon, its the ocean, its Nigerias love for sex, its the youths, its the adults everyone elses fault |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:01pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Donjazet2: Well, i am glad you were brave in 2015. See where your bravery led us 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 5:05pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
raumdeuter: Is that projection I sight there? Sege, blueray, treblechamp can you please help me explain to this fella that your reasons for voting Obi is not because, "he's from our place" but because he is clearly the best of the 3? This one thinks that everyone makes decisions based on nonsense rhetorics like, "he's our son". No sir, you shallow minded guys are in the minority. People want the best hands to awaken the beating heart of nigeria not just "who is our son". |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimffo(m): 5:07pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
raumdeuter: Naso one of my bikemen tell me that time, sey the reason the economy dey upside down and everything hard, na because Nigerians don dey fvck too much. He was serious o. Sey God dey vex for us. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 5:07pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Donjazet2: Excuse upon excuse. @ the bolded, do well by coming to the reality. You can do well by using Bayelsa case too, You won't die. Well, let me help you a little. How do you figure out that people's mandate are denied or tamper with? How? I thought you said this election is going to be different? Are you conceding defeat before the election? Are you saying the BVAS is not a game changer anymore? Are you saying electorates are not awaken again? Are you saying the numerous polls are not genuine? Is either you accept this bet or crawl back to the hole you came from and stop littering here with your hogwash! We want to listen to real men that can place their pocket where their mouth is. Ireyi kene kene!!! 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Its a mere coincidence that Obis strongest support are in his home region Someone already told us that Obis region is the only region that vote based on competence and not sentiments Let's continue deceiving ourselves 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 5:08pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou: Education and sensitization bro.. If you make those people realise the weight of their votes and the implications of selling it for a day's meal, their humanity will shine through. Only a pessimistic person will think that poor people cannot make any sort of informed decisions. At the end of the day, if the vast majority of people realise that it is an absolutely terrible decision to sell your vote for a day's meal. It becomes inconsequential and the practice stops. That's what makes me an idealist and you a pessimist. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:14pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
izzou:Codemn codemn and codemn. No justification whatsoever 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:15pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Donjazet2: Who are you going to educate and sensitize? The political party? Or the man that wants to collect bread? Keep typing long epistles. When you use up your grammar, you’ll come back and support what I said earlier Idealist that is blaming APC for sharing bread is an Ignoralist 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:16pm On Jan 19, 2023 |
Segedinho: I don't know you to be part of those that can't comprehend Follow the topic again, and i pray for the grace to understand for you 1 Like |
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