IjeBos:
This thread though.

Someone who posts here who is on probably on his 10+ username (keeps getting banned), posts post after post letting the forum know when/where he's supposedly "traveling", posts that he's drinking Hennessey w/ while partying with Big Boys in Abuja and London (while still finding time to post on this forum), posts pics of women who he claims he is sleeping with for money, posts tales of the 3k ashawo he's slept with in the bagger's forum (apropos topic name), posts telling other guys he will fux them up the a$$, posts telling women he will fux their mothers and sisters, posts attempting to troll people repeatedly, and after this post will probably post 100 more rage filed posts, is now talking about someone else posting because they were once bullied and seeking attention? Holy lack of self-awareness.

basilico:
Sometimes I pity white people
They can't dare say he word Nigger in public ,While black people use it s zillion times a day
And musicians black use it all the time.

basilico:
Sometimes I pity white people
They can't dare say he word Nigger in public ,While black people use it s zillion times a day
And musicians black use it all the time.

IjeBos:


You pity white people can't use the word Nigger? This comment is nuts. You should really delete it.

basilico:
Sometimes I pity white people
They can't dare say he word Nigger in public ,While black people use it s zillion times a day
And musicians black use it all the time.

IjeBos:
This thread though.

Someone who posts here who is on probably on his 10+ username (keeps getting banned), posts post after post letting the forum know when/where he's supposedly "traveling", posts that he's drinking Hennessey w/ while partying with Big Boys in Abuja and London (while still finding time to post on this forum), posts pics of women who he claims he is sleeping with for money, posts tales of the 3k ashawo he's slept with in the bagger's forum (apropos topic name), posts telling other guys he will fux them up the a$$, posts telling women he will fux their mothers and sisters, posts attempting to troll people repeatedly, and after this post will probably post 100 more rage filed posts, is now talking about someone else posting because they were once bullied and seeking attention? Holy lack of self-awareness.

IjeBos:


You pity white people can't use the word Nigger? This comment is nuts. You should really delete it.

Weregonnalose:



Kikikiki Kikikiki Havard graduate ya isa not ah think

IjeBos:


This post is contrary to the evidence and Expert witnesses who testified in the trial. I think you should go watch/re-watch the trial. Not going to redebate this trial here. But most of this post is wrong.

Here is a good article to start:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-breath-oxygen.html

CoolUsername:


I literally watched the video.

IjeBos:


Really? Then why the post? The Medical Examiner testified. Dr Martin Tobin testified. Both contrary to what your post tried to imply.

CoolUsername:


So what exactly did I get wrong?
I watched the bodycam footage of the interaction that led to the death of George Floyd. They were patient with Floyd. Floyd said he wanted to lie down. Floyd mentioned that he couldn't breathe before he was pinned down to the ground. Those are all facts.

CoolUsername:


So what exactly did I get wrong?
I watched the bodycam footage of the interaction that led to the death of George Floyd. They were patient with Floyd. Floyd said he wanted to lie down. Floyd mentioned that he couldn't breathe before he was pinned down to the ground. Those are all facts.

benalvino3:


he also said he ate too many drugs.
check the Effect of a Fentanyl overdose. I did some research about it... it is a silent killer. easy to overdose on.

IjeBos:


They had testimony from a couple of medical experts in their fields. They testified that 1.) A healthy person would have died in the same circumstances that Floyd was in. 2.) The amount of drugs in his system did not effect the outcome. You are welcome to present your expert qualifications to refute these doctors.

Again all of this is in the trial.

New court documents filed this week in the case against four Minneapolis police officers charged in the death of George Floyd provide new context to how he died.

A memorandum filed by the Hennepin County Attorney’s office on June 1 indicated that chief medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, who listed Floyd’s death as a homicide, thought the amount of fentanyl in Floyd’s blood was “pretty high” and could be “a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances.”

“Dr. Baker said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contributing factors he would conclude that it was an overdose death,” the memo said.

According to another memo on June 1, Dr. Baker told investigators that while Floyd had a high amount of fentanyl in his system, he was “not saying this killed him.”

Former New York City chief medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden, who performed an autopsy for Floyd’s family that also determined his death was a homicide, explained that the amount of fentanyl that was in Floyd's system can have vastly different effects on different people.

“Like all narcotics, there’s a wide range of what’s lethal or not, because it all depends on the tolerance of the individual from whom the blood has been drawn,” Baden, a Fox News contributor, said Thursday. “So clearly, that could be fatal to some people, not necessarily for others. But the circumstances of death are very important, especially in this case.”

In most cases, deaths associated with a fentanyl overdose occur due to respiratory depression. Another fatal consequence of a fentanyl overdose is cardiac arrest, as the drug slows down the heart rate and lowers the blood pressure.

adamusuleiman1:
A US judge has ordered Donald Trump and one of his lawyers to jointly pay nearly $1m (£809,190) in fines for a "frivolous" lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and others.

The lawsuit accused Mrs Clinton and others of trying to rig the 2016 US presidential election by linking his campaign to Russia.

"This case should never have been brought," wrote US District Judge Donald M Middlebrooks in his order.

Mr Trump has not immediately responded.

benalvino3:


that's not true... no healthy person has died in the same circumstance I am aware of. if there is please present it.
Toni Timpa died in the same way fluid died. The knee was at his back. Timpa was on cocaine just as the resent one that happened.



people who testified it was Homicide are also telling you this



they did not prove that the Knee killed him, they said it complicated things. if the Fentanyl was killing him, the knee to the neck made matters worse... it will be like the ambulance getting stuck at traffic. the main cause of death is still fentanyl overdose.



peoples heart has stopped without a knee to the neck.

No one in healthy condition has died as a result of a knee to the neck else it would have been banned long ago.

Tony Timpa is a Texas man who died after being restrained by Dallas police officers in 2016.

Newly released body-camera video obtained by The Dallas Morning News shows Timpa pleading with the officers before he lost consciousness and died. “You’re gonna kill me!” Timpa shouted numerous times.

The video shows officers mocking the 32-year-old, who had called 911 for help. Timpa told the dispatcher he suffered from schizophrenia and was off his medication, The Dallas Morning News reported.

Officers pinned Timpa’s arms behind his back and tip-tied his legs together. He was restrained for nearly 14 minutes. By the time he was loaded into an ambulance, he was dead.

“He didn’t just die down there did he?” an officer asked after Timpa lost consciousness. “I hope I didn’t kill him.”

The three officers involved in the incident were indicted by a grand jury in 2017 on charges of misdemeanor deadly conduct but prosecutors dismissed the charges, arguing that the officers did not act recklessly.

The video was released as part of a federal lawsuit filed by Timpa’s family for excessive force.

Here’s what you need to know:

1. Tony Timpa Called 911 for Help After Not Taking His Schizophrenia Medication

Dallas Police In-Custody Death Remains Mystery 2 Years LaterTwo years ago, 32-year-old Tony Timpa was afraid and called 911 for help. Less than an hour later, he died in police custody.2018-09-25T03:27:59.000Z
Tony Timpa called 911 on August 10, 2016 from the parking lot of a pornography store in Dallas, The Dallas Morning News reported.

Timpa told the dispatcher he was afraid and needed help. He said he suffered from schizophrenia and depression and had not taken his medication.

Timpa died within 20 minutes of officers arriving on the scene.

An autopsy ruled that Timpa’s cause of death was a homicide. The medical examiner said Timpa died from sudden cardiac arrest due to “the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint.”

2. Video Shows Police Laughing and Mocking Timpa as He Died

Dallas Police body cameras show moment Tony Timpa stopped breathingThe Dallas Morning News obtained body camera footage that was tied up in a legal battle for three years. The videos show Dallas Police responding after Tony Timpa called 911 and told dispatchers he was off his medication and had used cocaine. See how officers responded. Subscribe: youtube.com/user/tdmnvid?sub_confirmation=1 Watch more videos like this youtube.com/user/tdmnvid Learn…2019-07-31T01:51:47.000Z
Dallas officials had fought since 2016 to stop the release of the body camera video, first arguing that it would interfere with their investigation into the incident and later arguing that the video could not be released because the officers were not prosecuted, The Dallas Morning News reported. On Monday, a federal judge ruled that the video must be released because “the public has a compelling interest in understanding what truly took place during a fatal exchange between a citizen and law enforcement.”

The video shows officers mocking Timpa as he pleaded for help.

“You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me!” Timpa repeatedly shouted. Timpa pleaded for help more than 30 times as officers restrained him. When Timpa lost consciousness, an officer assumed he fell asleep without checking his pulse and then joked about him. The body camera video also shows that first responders did not begin CPR on Timpa until four minutes after he became unresponsive.

After one officer remarked that Timpa appeared to be asleep, another officer pointed out that he was “out cold.”

“It’s time for school. Wake up!” an officer mocked.

“I don’t want to go to school! Five more minutes, Mom!” another officer mocked.

The officers are heard laughing as they joked about making him a special breakfast.

As the officers and paramedics tried to get Timpa’s unresponsive body on a stretcher, an officer asked, “He didn’t just die down there did he?”

“I hope I didn’t kill him,” the officer said.

After paramedics told the officers Timpa was dead, one of the officers got out of the ambulance and told someone, before shutting off his body camera, “Sorry, we tried.”

3. Prosecutors Dismissed Charges Against the Officers After They Were Indicted by a Grand Jury

Pair Of Dallas Officers Indicted On Misdemeanor Deadly Conduct ChargesIn August 2016, Tony Timpa, 32, called 911 for help. Police said he was arrested for erratic behavior. He died in police custody.2017-12-08T04:13:53.000Z
The three officers involved in the incident — Kevin Mansell, Danny Vasquez and Dustin Dillard — were indicted by a grand jury in 2017 after The Dallas Morning News investigated the death.

The grand jury indicted the officers on misdemeanor deadly conduct. The indictment said the “officers engaged in reckless conduct that placed Timpa in imminent danger of serious bodily injury.”

Earlier this year, Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot dismissed the charges against the officers.

Creuzot told The Dallas Morning News that “all three examiners” who testified before the grand jury “cannot, and will not, testify to the elements of the indictment beyond a reasonable doubt.”

4. The Officers Were Allowed to Return to Active Duty This Year

Dallas Police refuse to release video in mysterious deathTony Timpa called 911 for help and ended up dead. Timpa's mother and an attorney discuss what happened after Dallas police responded. Read more – dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2017/09/28/police-responded-911-call-help-died-happened-tony-timpa2017-09-28T18:34:08.000Z
Internal police records obtained by The Dallas Morning News show that an internal affairs probe into the death was completed months before the indictments.

The three officers were disciplined for “conduct discrediting” the police force but the allegations were dropped after Creuzot dismissed the criminal charges.

Police records obtained by the outlet show that Mansell and Vasquez were placed on administrative leave in December 2017 and Dillard was placed on administrative leave in March

The officers were allowed to return to active duty after prosecutors dropped the charges in March.

5. Timpa’s Family Filed a Federal Lawsuit Alleging Excessive Force

olice Body Cam Video Shows Tony Timpa's 2016 In-Custody Death In DallasNewly released body camera video shows Tony Timpa, who was unarmed, begging for help as Dallas Police officers restrained him for 14 minutes.2019-07-31T22:13:52.000Z
The video was released after it was obtained as part of a federal lawsuit filed by Timpa’s family alleging excessive force by the officers.

The video and records obtained by The Dallas Morning News contradict the Dallas police defense of the officers.

A police incident report from the night of Timpa’s death claimed that Timpa was “aggressive and combative” even though he was already handcuffed by a security guard when police arrived and never threatened police.

Police also claimed that the use of force was necessary to stop Timpa from rolling into a busy street but the video shows that a police car was blocking traffic near where Timpa was pinned down.

It’s unclear why paramedics did not react quicker after Timpa lost consciousness.

“I was unable to assess the patient due to his combativeness,” a first responder said in an affidavit obtained by The Dallas Morning News, even though medical responders were seen in the video taking his blood pressure while he was still conscious.

IjeBos:


Listen, you're not arguing with me, you are arguing with medical professionals who were qualified as expert witnesses who testified in court. Maybe you can call them, or Chauvin's defense team, present your qualifications and explain to them why they were wrong. You should hurry, I believe there is a current appeals hearing and they may need your help.

IjeBos:


They had testimony from a couple of medical experts in their fields. They testified that 1.) A healthy person would have died in the same circumstances that Floyd was in. 2.) The amount of drugs in his system did not effect the outcome. You are welcome to present your expert qualifications to refute these doctors.

Again all of this is in the trial.

saxywale2:

Why do you even bother with Nairaland's American medical experts and attornies lol

benalvino3:
@Ijebos
you don't know about Tony Timpa because he was a white man. And also, They dismiss a case where a knee to the neck or back was use to restrain a man. they said it was not inappropriate.

prosecution dropped their murder charge

benalvino3:


Medical professionals are jumping like headless chickens. I am giving you facts. Professionals can be biased. I quoted them saying he has a fatal level of fentanyl in his system and then they pivot to but, some people can survive it some would not. well, how are the police even supposed to know all these circumstances?