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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 6:03am On Jan 24, 2023
More Classified documents (kept by Biden) have been discovered by the FBI after a 13 hour search at one of Biden's residence, same residence that Biden's lawyers searched and found previous classified documents and then told the world that they were done and that there was nothing more to see. Some of these documents recently discovered by the FBI (we are told) goes as far as way back when Biden was a Senator grin shocked
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 6:16am On Jan 24, 2023
DeepSight:


Do you even know the meaning of the word "involuntary?" Or did you just pick it up from TV?
Look here, a motor accident could be described as involuntary okay?

Kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes while being warned by a crowd around you is not involuntary.
Try hold your breath for 3 minutes please, before discussing this matter.

Attempting to make him see the truth is like trying to make a flat earther believe in a round earth. It's an exercise in futility. He believes every white nationalist, KKK, Nazi, etc, propaganda ever spawn by right wing media. He ALWAYS supports the White's narrative in any confrontation with blacks. He propagates more extremist views against blacks than even white folks.

Medical experts, the police department and a jury of 12 found Derek Chauvin guilty of murdering an unarmed and handcuffed black man, but according to his own personal racial bias, the police officer was doing an excellent job arresting a violent criminal on drugs resisting arrest. One would think we watched a separate trial with two separate video evidence.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeepSight(m): 9:29am On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


Attempting to make him see the truth is like trying to make a flat earther believe in a round earth. It's an exercise in futility. He believes every white nationalist, KKK, Nazi, etc, propaganda ever spawn by right wing media. He ALWAYS supports the White's narrative in any confrontation with blacks. He propagates more extremist views against blacks than even white folks.

Medical experts, the police department and a jury of 12 found Derek Chauvin guilty of murdering an unarmed and handcuffed black man, but according to his own personal racial bias, the police officer was doing an excellent job arresting a violent criminal on drugs resisting arrest. One would think we watched a separate trial with two separate video evidence.

Oh. So he is one of those. Have come across a few. A pity and a shame. It is well.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:43am On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


Attempting to make him see the truth is like trying to make a flat earther believe in a round earth. It's an exercise in futility. He believes every white nationalist, KKK, Nazi, etc, propaganda ever spawn by right wing media. He ALWAYS supports the White's narrative in any confrontation with blacks. He propagates more extremist views against blacks than even white folks.

Medical experts, the police department and a jury of 12 found Derek Chauvin guilty of murdering an unarmed and handcuffed black man, but according to his own personal racial bias, the police officer was doing an excellent job arresting a violent criminal on drugs resisting arrest. One would think we watched a separate trial with two separate video evidence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLelanQ8mRc
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 11:15am On Jan 24, 2023
basilico:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLelanQ8mRc
Can you translate the Russian or whatever language they are speaking to English.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 12:01pm On Jan 24, 2023
adamusuleiman3:
Former Special Agent in Charge of the New York FBI Counterintelligence Division charged with violating U.S. sanctions on Russia. A Russian Court and Government Interpreter Is Also Charged with Violating U.S. Sanctions on Russia

“Charles McGonigal, a former high-level FBI official, and Sergey Shestakov, a Court interpreter, violated U.S. sanctions by agreeing to provide services to Oleg Deripaska, a sanctioned Russian oligarch”

- When the C.I.A. noticed in late 2010 that its spies were disappearing as fears of a mole grew, the government set up a secret task force. A veteran F.B.I. counterintelligence agent, Charles McGonigal, was assigned to run it,” reported by nytimes in 2018.

- Charles McGonigal was also the Senior FBI official who led 2016 investigation finding no link between Trump and Russia. Deripaska was indicted last year and is being tried for a number of federal crimes. Paul Manafort, Trump's 2016 campaign manager that was later pardoned by Trump, also worked for Deripaska.

The Kremlin infiltration of America goes very deep.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale2: 1:11pm On Jan 24, 2023
Enugurangers:


- When the C.I.A. noticed in late 2010 that its spies were disappearing as fears of a mole grew, the government set up a secret task force. A veteran F.B.I. counterintelligence agent, Charles McGonigal, was assigned to run it,” reported by nytimes in 2018.

- Charles McGonigal was also the Senior FBI official who led 2016 investigation finding no link between Trump and Russia. Deripaska was indicted last year and is being tried for a number of federal crimes. Paul Manafort, Trump's 2016 campaign manager that was later pardoned by Trump, also worked for Deripaska.

The Kremlin infiltration of America goes very deep.
At the bolded. What a mess.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:35pm On Jan 24, 2023
Enugurangers:

Can you translate the Russian or whatever language they are speaking to English.
turn on captions. The trasnlation is there
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by adamusuleiman1: 3:30pm On Jan 24, 2023
Former President Donald Trump (center) posed for picture with former Philly mob boss Joey Merlino (right) at South Florida golf club.

Former President Donald Trump's campaign won't say if he knew he was posing with the former head of the Philly mob for a photo at Trump's West Palm Beach golf course this month.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:18pm On Jan 24, 2023
basilico:

turn on captions. The trasnlation is there

it's hard for them to stomach the fact that knee to the shoulder or neck is a basic technic that span many countries and law enforcement. till today, I asked they should give me a scenario where anyone died as a result of that technic where drugs are not in the body of the person that died as a result.

like i said, in 2016 tony timpa died long before George Floyd yet no one questioned the technic then.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:14pm On Jan 24, 2023
basilico:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLelanQ8mRc

Are the circumstances the same? Did your example have 3 grown men kneeling on his neck, back and thighs? They asked the guy in your video if he can still breath he said yes. George Floyd clearly told Derek Chauvin that he can't breath specifically because of the knee on his neck, what did Chauvin do? He applied more pressure, until floyd stopped responding.

Here is an analysis of what actually happened and it was not a drill as posted in your example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vksEJR9EPQ8&feature=shares
I am sorry to say, but you are are sadist. You either hate anything black or your go to desperate lengths to protect your warped views.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:17pm On Jan 24, 2023
saxywale2:

At the bolded. What a mess.


Still peddling Russia collusion that a special counsel biased as and hia team was NEVER found
. Hunter Biden received $3.5m from the wife of the Moscow mayor. your thoughts on that?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:21pm On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


Are the circumstances the same? Did your example have 3 grown men kneeling on his neck, back and thighs? They asked the guy in your video if he can still breath he said yes. George Floyd clearly told Derek Chauvin that he can't breath specifically because of the knee on his neck, what did Chauvin do? He applied more pressure, until floyd stopped responding.

Here is an analysis of what actually happened and it was not a drill as posted in your example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vksEJR9EPQ8&feature=shares
I am sorry to say, but you are are sadist. You either hate anything black or your go to desperate lengths to protect your warped views.

George Floyd was high on all sorts of drugs. Had they found him dead in his house the reason would been have OverDose The lynch mob woulda be after the jurors , judge etc
I believ he could not breathe before they tried to subdue him. His own words
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:31pm On Jan 24, 2023
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CapitanS: 5:32pm On Jan 24, 2023
adamusuleiman3:
Former Special Agent in Charge of the New York FBI Counterintelligence Division charged with violating U.S. sanctions on Russia. A Russian Court and Government Interpreter Is Also Charged with Violating U.S. Sanctions on Russia

“Charles McGonigal, a former high-level FBI official, and Sergey Shestakov, a Court interpreter, violated U.S. sanctions by agreeing to provide services to Oleg Deripaska, a sanctioned Russian oligarch”
Big Irony, he was one of those corrupt FBI agents that were harassing Trump admin officials over Russian collusion allegation. Now he is the one that is colluding with Russians while nothing was found against Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:35pm On Jan 24, 2023
basilico:


George Floyd was high on all sorts of drugs. Had they found him dead in his house the reason would been have OverDose The lynch mob woulda be after the jurors , judge etc
I believ he could not breathe before they tried to subdue him. His own words

Did you watch the video or you just hate George Floyd or you love Derek Chauvin. He was so high on drug that he was having a conversation with Derek Chauvin. Derek asked what do you want? George said he can't breath because of the knee on his neck. This were the words of Grorge himself. Now are you saying he was lying to make Derek Chauvin look bad?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CapitanS: 5:36pm On Jan 24, 2023
saxywale2:

At the bolded. What a mess.

This arrest has nothing to do with Trump or his associates, stop trying to make up imaginary links that don't exist. Infact, the FBI agent that was arrested was one of those actively harassing Trump associates and admin officials over Russian collusion allegation meanwhile he was the one involved in dirty dealings with Russians. I am sure there are many more of these dirty people everywhere in the FBI and DOJ.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:43pm On Jan 24, 2023
basilico:


George Floyd was high on all sorts of drugs. Had they found him dead in his house the reason would been have OverDose The lynch mob woulda be after the jurors , judge etc
I believ he could not breathe before they tried to subdue him. His own words

If you refused to watch the video I screenshot the part where George Floyd was telling Derek Chauvin that he can't breath because of the knee on his neck

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:43pm On Jan 24, 2023
CapitanS:

Big Irony, he was one of those corrupt FBI agents that were harassing Trump admin officials over Russian collusion allegation. Now he is the one that is colluding with Russians while nothing was found against Trump.

Did you think this through before you wrote it? It seems you heard this somewhere without putting reason to it.

If this same FBI agent was indeed overseeing the Russian collusion allegation, and was indeed working for the same Russians, it would seem that he would have a vested interest in coming to the conclusion that there was no Trump conclusion. Or did you think the same Russian (Oleg Deripaska) that was paying this FBI agent and also gave Trump's Campaign chief Manafort a $10Million loan would want him exposing the fact that he was working with the Trump Administration?

If anything, if this agent was indeed involved in the Russia investigation, this is bad news for Trump. Not only does the FBI have to reinvestigate every investigation this agent dealt with, they may also be able to flip him to get more information about Oleg Deripaska.

Take the time to think through some of the things you hear. Simple way to see it.--- If Oleg Deripaska had this FBI agent and Trump in his pocket. This FBI Agent was investigating Oleg Deripaska's relationship with Trump. What conclusion would you expect this FBI Agent to come up with?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:44pm On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


Did you watch the video or you just hate George Floyd or you love Derek Chauvin. He was so high on drug that he was having a conversation with Derek Chauvin. Derek asked what do you want? George said he can't breath because of the knee on his neck. This were the words of Grorge himself. Now are you saying he was lying to make Derek Chauvin look bad?

If he was being strangled he could not be able to speak. The issue is, Floyd was saying he couldn't breath long before they put him on the floor.

Have you checked some of the effects of fent... And how it slowly kills?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:48pm On Jan 24, 2023
benalvino3:


If he was being strangled he could not be able to speak. The issue is, Floyd was saying he couldn't breath long before they put him on the floor.

Have you checked some of the effects of fent... And how it slowly kills?


And you need not hear George Floyd in that video grasping for breath as Derek Chauvin was applying more pressure to the neck until he stopped talking.

As I said trying to make you see reality instead of your coloured tinted glasses is an exercise in futility.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:50pm On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


If you refused to watch the video I screenshot the part where George Floyd was telling Derek Chauvin that he can't breath because of the knee on his [bneck [/b]

It's not going to matter. He is fully invested in this on an emotional level. This tactic was banned after Floyd, but even beforehand as the Chief of Police testified, they had written procedures in their training manual on when and how to use it, and Chauvin's use wasn't authorized per the manual. No need to do more than read the police training manual.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:52pm On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


If you refused to watch the video I screenshot the part where George Floyd was telling Derek Chauvin that he can't breath because of the knee on his neck

Just asking Why did they have to subdue him when he would have simply gotten into the police vehicle ? High on meth? Fentanyl or crack?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:56pm On Jan 24, 2023
basilico:


Just asking Why did they have to subdue him when he would have simply gotten into the police vehicle ? High on meth? Fentanyl or crack?

He got into the police vehicle, it was Derek Chauvin who pulled him out again, put him on the pavement and restrained him by kneeling on his neck.

It seems you did not even watch the video before jumping to defend Derek Chauvin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzjln_SCxY8&feature=shares

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:57pm On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


And you need not hear George Floyd in that video grasping for breath as Derek Chauvin was applying more pressure to the neck until he stopped talking.

As I said trying to make you see reality instead of your coloured tinted glasses is an exercise in futility.

People who overdose of fent grasp for breath too.

Again, pls present a single case where someone died in the manner Floyd died and the person is not on drugs.

There have been cases where 3 to 4 cops subdued a man.

One of the jury is even a BLM supporter who said they should infiltrate the jury systems and voting systems to change things in the country.


Chauvin did not get a fair trial.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 6:06pm On Jan 24, 2023
benalvino3:


People who overdose of fent grasp for breath too.

Again, pls present a single case where someone died in the manner Floyd died and the person is not on drugs.

There have been cases where 3 to 4 cops subdued a man.

One of the jury is even a BLM supporter who said they should infiltrate the jury systems and voting systems to change things in the country.


Chauvin did not get a fair trial.

It's seems apart from being a white supremacists apologist, you are ignorant of how the US justice works. Each member of the jury must be accepted by both the prosecution and defence lawyers. If a single member of the jury is a BLM member, Chauvin lawyers would have rejected that juror.

You just post stuff from white supremacists conspiracy sites without thinking about is rationality.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale2: 6:11pm On Jan 24, 2023
CapitanS:

This arrest has nothing to do with Trump or his associates, stop trying to make up imaginary links that don't exist. Infact, the FBI agent (Charles McGonigal) that was arrested was one of those actively harassing Trump associates and admin officials over Russian collusion allegation meanwhile he was the one involved in dirty dealings with Russians. I am sure there are many more of these dirty people everywhere in the FBI and DOJ.
A fox guarding a henhouse.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:14pm On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


It's seems apart from being a white supremacists apologist, you are ignorant of how the US justice works. Each member of the jury must be accepted by both the prosecution and defence lawyers. If a single member of the jury is a BLM member, Chauvin lawyers would have rejected that juror.

What does White supremacy has to do with this? Are you an emotional midget that you throw the word up and down.

If they choose the jury, does that mean they cannot find something about one of them later that they didn't catch before and that particular jury lied through the questionnaire?

The juries were not sequestered. They were exposed to chaos in the city. The judge should have changed the location of the trial. And yes, the dude came out to say what I said in my previous post.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 6:16pm On Jan 24, 2023
Pence's turn. Trump still f'd. Shows the difference in handling between Trump, Biden, Pence.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 6:23pm On Jan 24, 2023
benalvino3:


What does White supremacy has to do with this? Are you an emotional midget that you throw the word up and down.

If they choose the jury, does that mean they cannot find something about one of them later that they didn't catch before and that particular jury lied through the questionnaire?

The juries were not sequestered. They were exposed to chaos in the city. The judge should have changed the location of the trial. And yes, the dude came out to say what I said in my previous post.

So the whole 12 jurors were compromised. I hope you know that all it would have taken to have a hung trial was just one juror voting not guilty.

You swallow and regurgitate right wing white supremacist site without digesting the info it puts out.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:34pm On Jan 24, 2023
wirinet:


So the whole 12 jurors were compromised. I hope you know that all it would have taken to have a hung trial was just one juror voting not guilty.

You swallow and regurgitate right wing white supremacist site without digesting the info it puts out.

Hmmm...
One person with a virus can infect others. You don't say because one person did not say not guilty then everything was fine.

The way you reason they make me laugh.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:06pm On Jan 24, 2023
grin grin Tells you all you need to know

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