kris:
Thank you! We are the best!

Put actions to your words.

We are doing it our way. If Ukraine wins, we got it right, if Ukraine loses, we f'ed up.

We provided arms to USSR to help defeat Germany in World War 2, and it turned out to be the right thing to do.

StephonClarkS2:
NATO has had more than enough time to provide Ukraine with 'game changer weapons.'
How much time do they need?

That's what we are doing. We are training Ukrainian soldiers in the west and the Bradleys are in Poland now, on their way to Ukraine.
We are getting a bunch of tanks to send over. We are busy man!

StephonClarkS2:

Put actions to your words.

kris:
We are doing it our way. If Ukraine wins, we got it right, if Ukraine loses, we f'ed up.

We provided arms to USSR to help defeat Germany in World War 2, and it turned out to be the right thing to do.

So you're gambling with the lives of Ukrainians? Why not send them the weapons they need to prevent more death?
Not that I care about the lives of Nazis.
I'm just drawing attention to the loophole in your argument.

kris:
That's what we are doing. We are training Ukrainian soldiers in the west and the Bradleys are in Poland now, on their way to Ukraine.
We are getting a bunch of tanks to send over. We are busy man!

I believe these super tanks will fare better than the 2000+ already destroyed.

People will die, what will try to do is to limit that and also make sure we get the weapons there at the right time.
If we rush to get things there too fast, things can go wrong.

You don't just do gragra all the time. It's similar to playing soccer, your system might allow the opponent to have the ball more, in order for you to counter attack. That's also why when Putin talks about nuclear weapons, our leaders don't start screaming that we have them too. We don't need to talk too much. We've used it before and we can use it again. We are monitoring Russia 24/7 All their ships and subs, have a few of ours following their every move.

StephonClarkS2:

So you're gambling with the lives of Ukrainians? Why not send them the weapons they need to prevent more death?
Not that I care about the lives of Nazis.
I'm just drawing attention to the loophole in your argument.

They will, and most of the dead tanks in Ukraine belong to the Russians, in case you didn't know.

StephonClarkS2:

I believe these super tanks will fare better than the 2000+ already destroyed.

kris:
People will die, what will try to do is to limit that and also make sure we get the weapons there at the right time.
If we rush to get things there too fast, things can go wrong.

You don't just do gragra all the time. It's similar to playing soccer, your system might allow the opponent to have the ball more, in order for you to counter attack. That's also why when Putin talks about nuclear weapons, our leaders don't start screaming that we have them too. We don't need to talk too much. We've used it before and we can use it again. We are monitoring Russia 24/7 All their ships and subs, have a few of ours following their every move.

The problem is...your right time may not be the right time.
Russia isn't waiting and it continues to liberate more territories.
Any idea when this right time would be?

kris:
They will, and most of the dead tanks in Ukraine belong to the Russians, in case you didn't know.

Are you familiar with the combat history of the leopards and Abrams?

Yes. They are better than what Ukraine has now and better than what Russia has.

The design protects the people inside even when it's hit. There are videos on youtube you can watch. Not the ones that just show it being hit and catching fire, without showing the aftermath.

StephonClarkS2:

Are you familiar with the combat history of the leopards and Abrams?

We will know when it's all said and done. When the history books are written.

StephonClarkS2:

The problem is...your right time may not be the right time.
Russia isn't waiting and it continues to liberate more territories.
Any idea when this right time would be?

kris:
Yes. They are better than what Ukraine has now and better than what Russia has.

The design protects the people inside even when it's hit. There are videos on youtube you can watch. Not the ones that just show it being hit and catching fire, without showing the aftermath.

It forgot to add that they were destroyed in Afghanistan.

kris:
We will know when it's all said and done. When the history books are written.

History is the reason why Russia continues to exercise restraints.

Can you please provide a link? Thank you.

I cannot find anywhere online that talks about crazy destruction of these tanks in Afghanistan.

StephonClarkS2:

It forgot to add that they were destroyed in Afghanistan.

They should keep restraining, because history favors us.

StephonClarkS2:

History is the reason why Russia continues to exercise restraints.

kris:
Can you please provide a link? Thank you.

I cannot find anywhere online that talks about crazy destruction of these tanks in Afghanistan.

You're unable to find any information of destroyed Abrams and Leopards?
So they're invincible?
I could provide a link but your ignorance is not my responsibility.

Ashraf Ghani has the links.

kris:
They should keep restraining, because history favors us.

German tanks getting destroyed in Russia? Yes it's part of history.

What I found speaks really good of them, so I'm sure your info must be coming from somewhere else.

It's easy to say "not my responsibility" when you don't have proof and just talking trash. You've not shied away from making it your responsibility to educate me, but now that I ask for proof, it's no more.

Also if those thanks are so bad, then why is Russia screaming "Escalation!"

StephonClarkS2:

You're unable to find any information of destroyed Abrams and Leopards?
So they're invincible?
I could provide a link but your ignorance is not my responsibility.

kris:
We don't want to bomb Kremlin, we want to give Ukraine weapons to kill the Russians invading Ukraine. That's what we want to do, and that's what we are doing.

And yes we get power, and with great power comes great responsibility. But we are not cowards that will sit around and allow a bully to bully the small guy.

You can cause us a bully, that's fine, as long as we are doing the bullying.

If no be for nuclear weapon, we go bully Russia hard too! We bully them in other ways already, that's why the biggest country in the world has lower gdp when compared to a state like California.

Maybe after this war, we will break them into pieces, like we did USSR, they lose their nuclear weapons, we move in and talk all their resources.

Only a fool will go and bomb Kremlin, we are playing chess, not checkers, and we are few moves ahead.

Whilst you so called big guys are fixated on Russia, the whole world is moving past you as new alliances are emerging to undermine all the so called economic power you have. It is only a matter of time. A multipolar world is inevitable.

kris:
Can you please provide a link? Thank you.

I cannot find anywhere online that talks about crazy destruction of these tanks in Afghanistan.

ISIS destroyed several Leopard tanks in Syria belonging to Turkey.

kris:
What I found speaks really good of them, so I'm sure your info must be coming from somewhere else.

It's easy to say "not my responsibility" when you don't have proof and just talking trash. You've not shied away from making it your responsibility to educate me, but now that I ask for proof, it's no more.

Also if those thanks are so bad, then why is Russia screaming "Escalation!"

Did you ask Ashraf Ghani for the links?
Ordinary Taliban destroyed 'sophisticated' weapons.

We had to lend-lease weapons to Russia to be able to defeat Germany on the east. Don't forget that.

In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[57] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[58] 11,400 aircraft (of which 4,719 were Bell P-39 Airacobras, 3,414 were Douglas A-20 Havocs and 2,397 were Bell P-63 Kingcobras)[59] and 1.75 million tons of food.[60]

Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US.

StephonClarkS2:

German tanks getting destroyed in Russia? Yes it's part of history.

kris:
We had to lend-lease weapons to Russia to be able to defeat Germany on the east. Don't forget that.

In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[57] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[58] 11,400 aircraft (of which 4,719 were Bell P-39 Airacobras, 3,414 were Douglas A-20 Havocs and 2,397 were Bell P-63 Kingcobras)[59] and 1.75 million tons of food.[60]

Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US.

I did not forget, German tanks were destroyed by the Soviets in ww2.
History is repeating itself.
The Taliban destroyed 'invincible' Western weapons.

The funny thing is that that all supports Ukraine winning, because it's harder to invade a country that's willing to keep fighting. The only difference here is that Putin doesn't mind destroying the whole place and turn it into a waste land.

StephonClarkS2:

Did you ask Ashraf Ghani for the links?
Ordinary Taliban destroyed 'sophisticated' weapons.

Well this time around, there's no more Soviets. Ukraine was part of it then, so they won't have that, and we will not be suppling Russia no ammo. The ammo will go to the Ukrainians this time. So that history is totally different from what is on ground now.

StephonClarkS2:

I did not forget, German tanks were destroyed by the Soviets in ww2.
History is repeating itself.
The Taliban destroyed 'invincible' Western weapons.

kris:
The funny thing is that that all supports Ukraine winning, because it's harder to invade a country that's willing to keep fighting. The only difference here is that Putin doesn't mind destroying the whole place and turn it into a waste land.

Now you catch my drift. The Ukrainians are lucky Russia went into this war softly. This is the war with the lowest civilian death ever and yet the west keep screaming genocide. The civilian dead is less than half that of iraqi war in the first 6 months. Arestovych said the Russians didn't want to kill anybody. Unfortunately, only Ukrainians will suffer in this escalation as Russia will just keep escalating in response to the west. At some point Russia will give up on liberation and just keep bombarding.

kris:
Well this time around, there's no more Soviets. Ukraine was part of it then, so they won't have that, and we will not be suppling Russia no ammo. The ammo will go to the Ukrainians this time. So that history is totally different from what is on ground now.

Russia=Soviets.
And history is about to repeat itself.
If the Taliban can do it, why not Russia?

atmy1:


Now you catch my drift. The Ukrainians are lucky Russia went into this war softly. This is the war with the lowest civilian death ever and yet the west keep screaming genocide. The civilian dead is less than half that of iraqi war in the first 6 months. Arestovych said the Russians didn't want to kill anybody. Unfortunately, only Ukrainians will suffer in this escalation as Russia will just keep escalating in response to the west. At some point Russia will give up on liberation and just keep bombarding.

Confam! Glad to see people who actually pay attention to history and current affairs.

Russia does not equal Soviets. You obviously have no clue of anything if that's what you think.

Russia has not been able to kill all Ukrainian's old tanks, so I'm not worried. The more tanks they get the better.

StephonClarkS2:

Russia=Soviets.
And history is about to repeat itself.
If the Taliban can do it, why not Russia?

They are not liberating nothing. Russia is already bombarding like crazy.

atmy1:


Now you catch my drift. The Ukrainians are lucky Russia went into this war softly. This is the war with the lowest civilian death ever and yet the west keep screaming genocide. The civilian dead is less than half that of iraqi war in the first 6 months. Arestovych said the Russians didn't want to kill anybody. Unfortunately, only Ukrainians will suffer in this escalation as Russia will just keep escalating in response to the west. At some point Russia will give up on liberation and just keep bombarding.

kris:
Russia does not equal Soviets. You obviously have no clue of anything if that's what you think.

Russia has not been able to kill all Ukrainian's old tanks, so I'm not worried. The more tanks they get the better.

The Soviet union was made up of Ukraine, Russia and other countries.
After the break up of the Soviet Union, Russia emerged as the main successor of the term Soviet.
This is why the SMO is neccessary. There are Ukrainians with Russian roots who have been terrorized by the Nazi regime in Kiev and Russia is obligated to help it's people.