kopell:
Bros please help and educate him to learn how to do business with mature minds, I have a question for you though. I don't understand what you mean, he will be disappointed in property section. If I could remember he just registered here less than 5 years ago, for some of us that's been here from the beginning of this forum. Many of us contributed our opinion based on what was presented here, trying not to take sides and be fair to both in disputes settlement. I hope your charges come with a seal of approval.

erico2k2:

you see people who talk like you do of checked in real life.spare tyre you don't have but here you are abusing users of Camry.whats wrong with Camry?If U want to put your money where your mouth is why don't you use your real user name instead of this fake profile you just created.

Person2person:


Chat me up on whatsapp..08063073913

Philipgarza31:
drop your number let's do a video call on WhatsApp. Think everyone is cursed as you.

kopell:
Wow wow . I'm really really disappointed in you with this comment, why because you're a young new comer on this thread, i'm watching to probably consider you with my new projects. Please guys be careful you never know who is watching or reading your comments, character matters a lot. Because of the small charge, if I get you right 26 - 29 that is just 3 days, you already bring the issue to public forum ehn o ga oo. It is well. Ogardinma.

Oandy89:
I will still wish him well, no doubt he is not ready for the big things. I paid you 75% immediately you submitted a work, and told you I needed a review from a builder and all you could do was to start distributing my contact in less than 12 hrs. You are really AN UNSERIOUS person. Learn to be respectful to people regardless of who they are and irrespective of the situation. I wish I had time to sit you down for a serious advice.
The builder has not reviewed it, yes he is busy now, but for the wisdom of the majority on this platform, send me your details and you will have your balance immediately.
And to the few lacking in wisdom from their comments, character, rather than competence, is the ingredient for a lasting success.

Oandy89:
I will still wish him well, no doubt he is not ready for the big things. I paid you 75% immediately you submitted a work, and told you I needed a review from a builder and all you could do was to start distributing my contact in less than 12 hrs. You are really AN UNSERIOUS person. Learn to be respectful to people regardless of who they are and irrespective of the situation. I wish I had time to sit you down for a serious advice.
The builder has not reviewed it, yes he is busy now, but for the wisdom of the majority on this platform, send me your details and you will have your balance immediately.
And to the few lacking in wisdom from their comments, character, rather than competence, is the ingredient for a lasting success.

redgem:


Please I hope you don't mind if you can send it here.......thank you...

Oandy89:
I will still wish him well, no doubt he is not ready for the big things. I paid you 75% immediately you submitted a work, and told you I needed a review from a builder and all you could do was to start distributing my contact in less than 12 hrs. You are really AN UNSERIOUS person. Learn to be respectful to people regardless of who they are and irrespective of the situation. I wish I had time to sit you down for a serious advice.
The builder has not reviewed it, yes he is busy now, but for the wisdom of the majority on this platform, send me your details and you will have your balance immediately.
And to the few lacking in wisdom from their comments, character, rather than competence, is the ingredient for a lasting success.

gbadexy:
This solicitor for brickdevo is doing more harm than good.
Brickdevo we know, and he alone would deal with the effect long after the unknown gun man goes.
Stories and advices have been given for a discerning mind aimed at preventing escalation.
@ brickdevo, do the needful and make amends with the client, no human is infallible and we all err sometimes.

Amosaloud:



I am not sure what the terms of your engagement were so I would give just broad advice here. If you informed the contractor prior to commencement of work that you would review his work after completion and agree a reasonable interval then the contractor owes you an apology and has dented his own image. However, if you started attaching conditions after completing your job then that's wrong and you are at fault. You should have had your reviewer on standby as you appeared to be in a hurry for this job to be completed. I think that's why the contractor is upset. You asked him to do the job quickly and then dithered after completion.
My maxim always is to treat goods and services as the same. When in doubt about the source always insist on immediate inspection before payment. So if you asked a tile seller to supply you tiles and agreed on payment on delivery then taking so long to pay after goods have been delivered is bound to cause unnecessary anxiety. You cannot ask the seller to wait an unspecified length of time while you start giving new conditions for payment.

I think for now best to pay him his money and if any alterations take it back to him to make final amendments. If he then charges extra for minor alterations then you should cry foul! And seek redress here.
Always do your due diligence before entering into any contract with any client or contractor here.
I can see a few motivational stories already but these cases are the exception rather than the rule. I have been bitten a few times that my default position is always to protect myself from fraud rather than working in good faith unless you are a long term client/contractor that I know all the way to your family quarters in your village!
The contractor that did a small garage/kitchen conversion structural drawing for planning application where I live insisted on full payment on day of completion after sending me the initial drawings to suggest any alterations I would like made. I had to pay in full before the final drawings were sent to me.
Also when doing my Lagos build land documentation I had to pay upfront for the final stamped architectural and structural drawings after the initial draft was sent to me for any amendments. I also paid in full before they were released to me.
We live and learn everyday. Good luck and God bless.

Iriruaga100:


With due respect sir, do you supply paint with 75 percent up front payment and you will get your balance after we have done review with the site engineer?

twinskenny:


well done sir.. sometime the fear of past experience has made some of us service provider to be wary of payment delay and all... but to me the time frame look short.. oga Brick should have waited a little more... before bringing it here.

FEGEITOK:


Assuming the worst....

Not giving the benefit of the doubt...

No one is saying payment should not be instant, but even if payment is not instant, even if you assume the worst, must you voice it out before you have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is foul play?

In real life does everything work like clockwork all the time?

That is the issue here.

Like the client said his builder delayed.

Sympathy goes both ways, the vendor for the client and the client for the vendor.

Before throwing accusations, did the vendor ask the client why the delay?

The other issue here is that the vendor has expressly stated that he expects reviews to be completed in 24 hours.

In real life shit happens, things that should happen by a particular time may not happen by that time, do adults then start throwing tantrums and then expect repeat business from the place that they threw tantrums?

In real life, contracts are varied and can be varied.

Assuming without conceding that the client did not say review before final payment, if the client then says so now, the issue is not to throw tantrums, the issue is to ask for a variation of the contract that accounts for the delay in payment, that is the mature adult thing to do.

Iriruaga100:


With due respect sir, do you supply paint with 75 percent up front payment and you will get your balance after we have done review with the site engineer?

gbadexy:

I supply paints with 70% advance and inform my clients I receive balance on delivery confirmation.
I get my balance once it has been confirmed I delivered the agreed quantity.
In almost all cases, I get my balance same day but I've had to wait more than a week a couple of times because the clients couldn't raise enough naira to pay from diaspora. In those cases, it wasn't an issue because they communicated the reason well ahead.
Communication could be better improved by the client also because silence could be interpreted to mean anything.
All in all, since majority of reasonable and matured folks felt his calling out the client was too early, he should backtrack and de escalate things. We've read several intelligent positions on the issue here for me to be of the opinion he should make amends.
Besides there are much more silent members here than those active and are the major potential clients who are observing how the client/contractor issue is resolved.

BrickDevo:
before bringing it here, did i not ask him what the delay is? As a responsible person i believe he is, he is supposed to tell me, he left our WhatsApp chat and came here to say his builder delayed, why is he saying that now? Why? Something that was never part of our agreement, and i asked you not once, what is causing the delay.....
And to you, it is very much okay. No problem.

FEGEITOK:


If you asked him about the delay, that was proper on your part.

If he refused to respond to your question about the delay, that was improper on his part.

If as you allege that you are hearing for the first time about the delay from the builder for the first time on the forum, then that is not right, he should have informed you in advance.

My dear don't make an issue of it was not in our agreement, it was because I went over and abroad to do things not included in our agreement that my company got inserted into a national budget. There are several others who will tell you that by going beyond the call of duty, doors that seemed impossible were opened.

Instead of making it seem like you are always ready to fight your clients, you could have used the opportunity of the delay to ask for additional funds as the cost of the delay to you. Have you not heard how big companies that work with the government are beneficiaries of contract variations - which inevitably means additional funds to play with?

I never said that the delay was OK, I am saying and many others have said that you have handled this matter in such a way that you have scored an own goal.

BrickDevo:
i have never called out any client here, i have done works for client, the last client i did an interior design even paid extra, he was sending in money in part without me asking. It's only fair i get paid as at when due, and if you have delays it's also fair the client informs me, this will be my last submission on this issue.

Philipgarza31:
someone put in his time and effort, burnt fuel in this time it's been sold for 400 per liter, his expertise, a professional with a family to feed and the person he worked for refused to pay him his wage and all you could offer is that he shouldn't ask for his money? You should be ashamed of yourself for being that daft. You are lucky this happened online because with how stubborn of a man I am I will strip you naked if anything like this had happened in my front. Mumu person that God managed to pity with little money and all he can afford is a 2bedroom, come to Benin and see lastborns doing house warming everywhere. Even 12years ago I never went as low as a 2bedroom let alone now but I don't blame him anyway, he is probably hungry that's why he's unable to pay his worker but lied about a nonsense review from a builder. Can his type recruit a builder? Proverty striken fool. If that guy can just drop his phone number for me I will personally send brickdevo the balance and take the issue up from there.
Stupid goats forming cartel on top peanuts..

FEGEITOK:


Please go back and pull down all those screenshots with the client's number.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Plastering his number all over the internet and associating his number to his moniker has done damage that you cannot begin to quantify

BrickDevo:

Agreed

gbadexy:

You aren't like this, I guess we all have bad days.
Your previous contributions are noteworthy and define you.
Hope this is settled amicably and one unfortunate event shouldn't be allowed to define or affect us.

gbadexy:

You aren't like this, I guess we all have bad days.
Your previous contributions are noteworthy and define you.
Hope this is settled amicably and one unfortunate event shouldn't be allowed to define or affect us.

FEGEITOK:


I really liked him, he acted like a very cool-headed guy.

Let's hope you are right that this was not his best of days.

Let us hope he takes the steps to redeem himself.

Person2person:


I just labelled all the four sides of your kitchen using later A to D.....kindly state the measurement on each side...for example A=12ft, B=11ft, etc.......I hope you get it now...