benalvino3:


Many of them differ from what the FBI has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaL5N9ldWxk

look at this guy, one of the people behind this skewed data. He claimed Bakersfield is the murder capital of CA since 2016. Go and see the Data for yourself if what he is claiming is true.

The data used is extremely more detailed and more accurate than the FBI. They only used less accurate FBI data when the ones from CDC was missing. This is the most detailed research i have ever seen on this topic.
I don't know what else you want.

benalvino3:


Do not project yourself on me. You are the result of affirmative action. A dumb thicko going through Harvard

There it goes.. As I said, figure out why you hate yourself and feel inadequate that you project it on to others. People like you hurt black people more than some racists can.

I'm going to post these stats, not because I give a f* about what you think but because someone may read this and think Black people can't be equal or as smart as white people and disqualify them or their accomplishments. You're not well.

These were my stats when I applied.
SAT- 99% percentile. Perfect Math Score.
SAT II - 99% in Chem, Math Level II, Latin, French
AP exams - 5 in Calc BC, Chem, Physics, US Government; 4 in English/Lit, French, Humanities,
Was on the Dean's List every semester.
National Honor Society
Multiple Awards on Award night
Headmaster's Award
Public Speaking Award
Student Council President
Academic Scholarship
School Math and Chem team.
Programming Competition Honorable mention.
Mayors Youth Council
Doesn't include all my extra-curricular activities. Sports. Community groups I founded, corporate work experience (Fidelity Bank Intern, State Street Bank Intern), classes and programs I took at MIT, etc etc.

Now talk to me again about simply being an affirmative action candidate.

shegzhkn:


You an American??

Nope

CoolUsername:


The crime hotspots in many blue and purple states also fit the bill. Look at Maryland, Michigan, and Ohio.

I guess you're missing my point. If you remove all the crime hotspots from all the states, it would seem Red States would still have a higher murder rate, maybe even higher given some of these blue states have a higher population in these hotspots (cities). So, how would that align with your theory?

CoolUsername:


Nope

Lol.
If you're in the intelligence business you might understand what we're up against, it not rational but necessary.

IjeBos:


There it goes.. As I said, figure out why you hate yourself and feel inadequate that you project it on to others. People like you hurt black people more than some racists can.

I'm going to post these stats, not because I give a f* about what you think but because someone may read this and think Black people can't be equal or as smart as white people and disqualify them or their accomplishments. You're not well.

These were my stats when I applied.
SAT- 99% percentile. Perfect Math Score.
SAT II - 99% in Chem, Math Level II, Latin, French
AP exams - 5 in Calc BC, Chem, Physics, US Government; 4 in English/Lit, French, Humanities,
Was on the Dean's List every semester.
National Honor Society
Multiple Awards on Award night
Headmaster's Award
Public Speaking Award
Student Council President
Academic Scholarship
School Math and Chem team.
Programming Competition Honorable mention.
Mayors Youth Council
Doesn't include all my extra-curricular activities. Sports. Community groups I founded, corporate work experience (Fidelity Bank Intern, State Street Bank Intern), classes and programs I took at MIT, etc etc.

Now talk to me again about simply being an affirmative action candidate.

That affirmative talk is one of the most attacked by far right people even though they have little understanding of how it works. A few years ago, I was in a lunch room and overhead a new grad (white dude) we hired mouthing off about how unfair it was for affirmative action to increase hiring of Blacks, Asians, and other minority candidates over whites. Anyone with a low IQ listening to him would think the black or Asian candidates hired were dull or bottom of the barrel.

Ironically, this white dude was the weakest academically in the 24 candidates that were hired in his cohort (his cumulative average was in the 60%). Although he interviewed well, and we overlooked the fact that his eventually hiring was based on the fact that he had to pass an outstanding maths course from university. The chief hiring manager even waited an extra 4month to finalize his hiring. Interestingly, non of the Black and Asian grad in his cohort had less than 85% cumulative overall average.

saxywale2:

That affirmative talk is one of the most attacked by far right people even though they have little understanding of how it works. A few years ago, I was in a lunch room and overhead a new grad (white dude) we hired mouthing off about how unfair it was for affirmative action to increase hiring of Blacks, Asians, and other minority candidates over whites. Anyone with a low IQ listening to him would think the black or Asian candidates hired were dull or bottom of the barrel.

Ironically, this white dude was the weakest academically in the 24 candidates that were hired in his cohort (his cumulative average was in the 60%). Although he interviewed well, and we overlooked the fact that his eventually hiring was based on the fact that he had to pass an outstanding maths course from university. The chief hiring manager even waited an extra 4month to finalize his hiring. Interestingly, non of the Black and Asian grad in his cohort had less than 85% cumulative overall average.

Exactly, I even think affirmative actions is necessary. It just wreaks of this bias that somehow black people aren't adequate or deserving of their placements with or without affirmative action. I wonder if there were hiring shenanigans that let that white guy through.

IjeBos:


There it goes.. As I said, figure out why you hate yourself and feel inadequate that you project it on to others. People like you hurt black people more than some racists can.

I'm going to post these stats, not because I give a f* about what you think but because someone may read this and think Black people can't be equal or as smart as white people and disqualify them or their accomplishments. You're not well.

These were my stats when I applied.
SAT- 99% percentile. Perfect Math Score.
SAT II - 99% in Chem, Math Level II, Latin, French
AP exams - 5 in Calc BC, Chem, Physics, US Government; 4 in English/Lit, French, Humanities,
Was on the Dean's List every semester.
National Honor Society
Multiple Awards on Award night
Headmaster's Award
Public Speaking Award
Student Council President
Academic Scholarship
School Math and Chem team.
Programming Competition Honorable mention.
Mayors Youth Council
Doesn't include all my extra-curricular activities. Sports. Community groups I founded, corporate work experience (Fidelity Bank Intern, State Street Bank Intern), classes and programs I took at MIT, etc etc.

Now talk to me again about simply being an affirmative action candidate.

all those stats and you are still so dumb.
SMH.

IjeBos:


There it goes.. As I said, figure out why you hate yourself and feel inadequate that you project it on to others. People like you hurt black people more than some racists can.

I'm going to post these stats, not because I give a f* about what you think but because someone may read this and think Black people can't be equal or as smart as white people and disqualify them or their accomplishments. You're not well.

These were my stats when I applied.
SAT- 99% percentile. Perfect Math Score.
SAT II - 99% in Chem, Math Level II, Latin, French
AP exams - 5 in Calc BC, Chem, Physics, US Government; 4 in English/Lit, French, Humanities,
Was on the Dean's List every semester.
National Honor Society
Multiple Awards on Award night
Headmaster's Award
Public Speaking Award
Student Council President
Academic Scholarship
School Math and Chem team.
Programming Competition Honorable mention.
Mayors Youth Council
Doesn't include all my extra-curricular activities. Sports. Community groups I founded, corporate work experience (Fidelity Bank Intern, State Street Bank Intern), classes and programs I took at MIT, etc etc.

Now talk to me again about simply being an affirmative action candidate.

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IjeBos:


I guess you're missing my point. If you remove all the crime hotspots from all the states, it would seem Red States would still have a higher murder rate, maybe even higher given some of these blue states have a higher population in these hotspots (cities). So, how would that align with your theory?

If you remove those urban crime hotspots, America's crime rate falls to that of a Scandinavian country.

IjeBos:


Exactly, I even think affirmative actions is necessary. It just wreaks of this bias that somehow black people aren't adequate or deserving of their placements with or without affirmative action. I wonder if there were hiring shenanigans that let that white guy through.

Not any shenanigans that I know off.

saxywale2:

The data used is extremely more detailed and more accurate than the FBI. They only used less accurate FBI data when the ones from CDC was missing. This is the most detailed research i have ever seen on this topic.
I don't know what else you want.

you cannot take Someone who works for chuck Schumer, article seriously. this is the left and its propaganda machine.
The FBI also provides data for the cities and counties and the CDC doesn't provide data for a single city.

How did you conclude that the CDC has more accurate data?

has the CDC ever conducted an investigation into any shooting incident to determine if a crime occurred? Like, some people commit suicide by gun and that is not recorded as a crime. Who determines what is a crime and what is not a crime? The CDC? lol

The fact that he is doing research on crimes and is focused on places that voted for trump. does that even make sense? If you are studying crime in the states, you should do the numbers and show us where it is high. cities, counties, etc., not places that voted for trump.

raumdeuter:


You don't see the left mocking the right as the party of family values?

Honestly what I've seen are liberals mocking republicans for some of their hypocrisies.
As they brand their party as the party of family values, while sometimes opposing policies that may actually help families.
On family medical leave, nutrition support and education.

The left sees family as patriarchal that should be abolished

If you go on Google and just search liberals against family. You will see more than a few articles

I mean I've seen some insane Twitter lefties saying some wild stuff. But I mostly chuck it up to that individual just being brain damaged, and most often gets refuted by other lefties too.

I haven't seen a policy position by liberals that's anti-family, so far.

raumdeuter:


So if the biological father is not living in the house, No man should live and be the father figure in the lives of the kids?

Well we have seen the result 50yrs later How 2 generations have grown up without a male figure in their lives and the results are there

So, we could all agree that this is a very bad policy maybe even racist and should undoubtedly be reformed?

saxywale2:

That affirmative talk is one of the most attacked by far right people even though they have little understanding of how it works. A few years ago, I was in a lunch room and overhead a new grad (white dude) we hired mouthing off about how unfair it was for affirmative action to increase hiring of Blacks, Asians, and other minority candidates over whites. Anyone with a low IQ listening to him would think the black or Asian candidates hired were dull or bottom of the barrel.

Ironically, this white dude was the weakest academically in the 24 candidates that were hired in his cohort (his cumulative average was in the 60%). Although he interviewed well, and we overlooked the fact that his eventually hiring was based on the fact that he had to pass an outstanding maths course from university. The chief hiring manager even waited an extra 4month to finalize his hiring. Interestingly, non of the Black and Asian grad in his cohort had less than 85% cumulative overall average.

My intro to the discussion on affirmative action was the scandal about certain colleges requiring Asian applicants to have higher scores and lowering the requirement for blacks.
So I can somewhat sympathize with the skewed perception of the topic.

raumdeuter:


So if the biological father is not living in the house, No man should live and be the father figure in the lives of the kids?

Well we have seen the result 50yrs later How 2 generations have grown up without a male figure in their lives and the results are there

You are minimizing the African American condition during and prior to that 50 year period. For reference the civil rights act was enacted in 1964 which outlawed discriminatory practices in Southerner States. If you can find any stats that African Americans were doing better prior to1960, you'd have an arguable point.

IjeBos:


You are minimizing the African American condition during and prior to that 50 year period. For reference the civil rights act was enacted in 1964 which outlawed discriminatory practices in Southerner States. If you can find any stats that African Americans were doing better prior to1960, you'd have an arguable point.

What has civil rights and discriminatory laws got to do with people having children within marriages more than now
What conditions was making people to get married and have kids that have gotten worse now and making 75% (3 out of 4kids) born outside

is having kids outside marriage mostly without a father figure an improvement that civil rights fought for?

if the battered beaten ancestors with little rights could do right and have families stay with their kids then why not the current ones who are living better

Florida Gov. DeSantis on Tuesday responded to criticism from Donald Trump, saying that, unlike with the former president’s 2020 bid, voters re-elected him.

“You take a crisis situation like Covid, the good thing about it is that when you’re an elected executive, you have to make all kinds of decisions, you’ve got to steer that ship,” DeSantis said Tuesday at an event on education in response to a question about Trump's recent attacks. “And the good thing is that people are able to render a judgment on that: whether they re-elect you or not.”

raumdeuter:


What has civil rights and discriminatory laws got to do with people having children within marriages more than now
What conditions was making people to get married and have kids that have gotten worse now and making 75% (3 out of 4kids) born outside

is having kids outside marriage mostly without a father figure an improvement that civil rights fought for?

if the battered beaten ancestors with little rights could do right and have families stay with their kids then why not the current ones who are living better

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IMAliyu2:

My intro to the discussion on affirmative action was the scandal about certain colleges requiring Asian applicants to have higher scores and lowering the requirement for blacks.
So I can somewhat sympathize with the skewed perception of the topic.

Of course, but that's also people don't delve into understanding biases in the US. Ex. My ex was applying to jobs in white shoe law firms and she sent in two applications. One with her Nigerian name and one with her Italian middle name. Guess which one got called for an interview. And those same biases can be seen in standardized testing because people don't have the same cultural reference.

IjeBos:


Of course, but that's also people don't delve into understanding biases in the US. Ex. My ex was applying to jobs in white shoe law firms and she sent in two applications. One with her Nigerian name and one with her Italian middle name. Guess which one got called for an interview. And those same biases can be seen in standardized testing because people don't have the same cultural reference.

this ah lie ye.

shegzhkn:


Lol.
If you're in the intelligence business you might understand what we're up against, it not rational but necessary.

We have glowie among us. Go and radicalize anti-establishment groups elsewhere, glowie.

Nastymods:


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raumdeuter:


What has civil rights and discriminatory laws got to do with people having children within marriages more than now
What conditions was making people to get married and have kids that have gotten worse now and making 75% (3 out of 4kids) born outside

is having kids outside marriage mostly without a father figure an improvement that civil rights fought for?

if the battered beaten ancestors with little rights could do right and have families stay with their kids then why not the current ones who are living better

I'm not arguing there isn't an issue with African Americans having children out of wedlock, and effects it has on children growing up. I just think the issue more complex than what you are making it out to be here.

IjeBos:


I'm not arguing there isn't an issue with African Americans having children out of wedlock, and effects it has on children growing up. I just think the issue more complex than what you are making it out to be here.

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IjeBos:


I'm not arguing there isn't an issue with African Americans having children out of wedlock, and effects it has on children growing up. I just think the issue more complex than what you are making it out to be here.

What are the complexities out there that is making more children out of wedlock than the ancestors who actually faced the struggles real time

raumdeuter:


What are the complexities out there that is making more children out of wedlock than the ancestors who actually faced the struggles real time

I'm assuming, the high rates of incarceration due to disparate laws and sentencing, the inability to find work due to structural racism and even the fact woman have become more successful and are capable of being primarily the breadwinner. But again, would want to see data, and some research on all this. But, think ur analysis doesn't fully explain it.

In my circle:
I have one guy who is very successful who had a child with a woman he didn't marry because he didn't want her getting half of everything he worked for if they got divorced. He's Nigerian.
Another guy, who's g/f didn't want to get married. Not even sure the reason. Have houses and 2 kids together. Both very successful. He's Nigerian.
And a female friend, again very successful, just focused on career and had a kid recently, with a sperm donor. Actually to think of it I have maybe 4 female friends like that. Either a sperm donor or a guy who eventually became a sperm donor if you know what I mean. One's Nigerian and the others African American. And all these people have been excellent parents.

I would love to see what the rates of child birth outside of wedlock are in Nigeria as well. Seems higher than I would think.

Also found this data. Seems black woman are having less babies out of wedlock than their ancestors as you would say. Seems the 90's ushered in a drop. Trusting Ta-Nehisi Coates for the data.

From this article
(Pay link, but kinda cheated, feel somewhat bad).
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bW0WYKwInGAJ:https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/06/understanding-out-of-wedlock-births-in-black-america/277084/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

IjeBos:


I'm assuming, the high rates of incarceration due to disparate laws and sentencing, the inability to find work due to structural racism and even the fact woman have become more successful and are capable of being primarily the breadwinner. But again, would want to see data, and some research on all this. But, think ur analysis doesn't fully explain it.

In my circle:
I have one guy who is very successful who had a child with a woman he didn't marry because he didn't want her getting half of everything he worked for if they got divorced. He's Nigerian.
Another guy, who's g/f didn't want to get married. Not even sure the reason. Have houses and 2 kids together. Both very successful. He's Nigerian.
And a female friend, again very successful, just focused on career and had a kid recently, with a sperm donor. Actually to think of it I have maybe 4 female friends like that. Either a sperm donor or a guy who eventually became a sperm donor if you know what I mean. One's Nigerian and the others African American. And all these people have been excellent parents.

I would love to see what the rates of child birth outside of wedlock are in Nigeria as well. Seems higher than I would think.

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