JAMO84:
The only reason why INEC declared Adeleke was because, they wanted to avoid inconclusive, otherwise, they would have cancelled some polling units due to over voting and declare re run, Adeleke would still have won.

I no even dey understand again

Some people go talk say Electoral law states there should be a rerun

Some go talk say Electoral Law states the polling units should be cancel.

Well, who knows when the case will start at the Appeal court?

Will the Appeal Court give a judgement before the Presidential Election?

Parachoko:
I no even dey understand again

Some people go talk say Electoral law states there should be a rerun

Some go talk say Electoral Law states the polling units should be cancel.

Well, who knows when the case will start at the Appeal court?

Will the Appeal Court give a judgement before the Presidential Election?

Those who say, there should be rerun are just clever by half,

May be they have not updated themselves with new electoral law.

The new electoral law is clear enough in English language


Electoral Act, 2022 Section 51 (2)


under the Electoral Act, 2022 Section 51 (2) says over-voting occurs “where the number of votes cast at an election in any polling unit exceeds the number of accredited voters in that polling unit, the presiding officer shall cancel the result of the election in that polling unit.”

anomaly20:



Saying something that is not correct with confidence 😂.
Section 51 subsection 4 states that after a result was cancelled, and it does not affect the outcome of the election a return can be made .

I love your explanation

I doubt Adeleke will survive this if we are to go by rhis

Afamed:


Those who say, there should be rerun are just clever by half,

May be they have not updated themselves with new electoral law.

The new electoral law is clear enough in English language


Electoral Act, 2022 Section 51 (2)


under the Electoral Act, 2022 Section 51 (2) says over-voting occurs “where the number of votes cast at an election in any polling unit exceeds the number of accredited voters in that polling unit, the presiding officer shall cancel the result of the election in that polling unit.”

Thank you

Will the case be rounded up at the Appeal Court within 30 days?

BluntCrazeMan:



So,, why did the Synchronisation of the Osun details take 40 days?
And by extension, how long would the Synchronisation of the Presidential Election Details take.??



**Meanwhile...
Once Election is still ongoing, the results cannot be recorded in the BVAS and transmitted.
Therefore, the Election must end before the transmission can progress.
So, why wouldn't the BVAS Automatically Start the transmission of the BVAS Details immediately the PO opened the page for the recording of results and transmission.??

I think the inec synchronisation works like the bookmark function of a low tier browser it's there but not really there. What this means is inec can sit on results and give out whatever they wish for at the end of the day.

Afamed:


Before you sound stupid next time , read Electoral Act, 2022 Section 51 (2)
so that you dont promote your ignorance on social media

You can consult your lawyer, if you have one
And you were so confident telling me rubbish in your post above

First, you should be thanking me for telling you what BVAS is before stupidly sounding sophisticated.

Second, if up till Supreme Court that yeye tribunal verdict is not quashed, just know that this country is gone. I am not here to argue law with you; Nairaland is not a law court.

Afamed:
Electoral Act, 2022 Section 51 (2) says over-voting occurs “where the number of votes cast at an election in any polling unit exceeds the number of accredited voters in that polling unit, the presiding officer shall cancel the result of the election in that polling unit.”

Noted. And what happens after the result is cancelled?

pedel:
You are commenting on a topic that is way beyond your knowledge.
If I were you I would just read comments and maybe learn something along the way.

I need to employ more people to join me in this laughter! I have been taking part in electoral process for over twenty years. Who do you think you are talking to? I have worked as a presiding officer on many occasions, APO, Collation officer and registration officer.

I don't say what I don't know.

Afamed:


Is there anything like synchronized BVAs in the new electoral law?

The synchronized BVAs results were gotten after 40 days of the election.
Where did INEC now get the results they announced Adeleke as the winner of the election on the second day after the election from?

Most of una are just clever by half

You are mixing two things, the result announced was based on the captured ones. It is captured and send. But accreditation was done on the BVAS from morning till end of the voting process. Result is just one file, but accreditation is gotten different files of individual data, it will be later compiled in unit data file.

SmartPolician:


It's safe to say that you didn't understand the points the OP raised.

I laughed in India. Op didn't understand what he is saying. Technology is what we are talking about.

sangresan:


You're confused.

Hahaha. You did not understand. You need to move closer to any tech guy close to you.

Afamed:


Go and read what inconclusive means first.

Electoral Act 2022: Section-51; Sub-sections-3-&-4. (Rephrased and paraphrased)

3. If the election in a Polling-unit is cancelled due to over-voting, then the final results for that election should not be declared until another election is conducted in that Polling-unit (And that definitely is a supplementary election in those affected Polling-units -- in cases of “inconclusive” results.)
(See also: INEC Regulations And Guidelines for Election: Section-56.)

4. If however the final results for the election would not be affected by such supplementary elections (as would have been rescheduled in sub-section-3 above), and that is, if the “margin of lead” between the leading candidate and the second candidate is bigger than the total number of all the affected registered voters in such cancelled Polling-units (as contained in the Form-EC40-Series), then the final results for the election can be announced, notwithstanding those cancelled Polling-units.
(See also: INEC’s Regulations And Guidelines for Election: Section-57, and Section-100(iii).)

If after you finished reading these, and you still have questions, let me know.


Meanwhile, go and find the INEC’s “Regulations and Guidelines” and read too.,, so that you can understand more about the BVAS and Collation, and all those other terms

BluntCrazeMan:



So,, why did the Synchronisation of the Osun details take 40 days?
And by extension, how long would the Synchronisation of the Presidential Election Details take.??



**Meanwhile...
Once Election is still ongoing, the results cannot be recorded in the BVAS and transmitted.
Therefore, the Election must end before the transmission can progress.
So, why wouldn't the BVAS Automatically Start the transmission of the BVAS Details immediately the PO opened the page for the recording of results and transmission.??

Many of you guys don't understand this tech issue.

God bless you richly for this intellectual piece. You can see how decent this thread is because it's devoid of the zombiediots. They can't participate in any intellectual debate.


INEC has no excuse for producing another BVAS report 40days after election. Every sane mind will take that as an afterthought. So why did you announce a winner then? So where did they get the results with which a winner was declared? By the way,the BVAS report issued and certified by INEC to Apc was never termed incomplete or temporary. We only started to hear synchronize after 40days.


So how long will it take to synchronize the accredited voters across Nigeria in the presidential election? INEC is not ready for this election let them tell us ooo

BluntCrazeMan:
Electoral Act 2022: Section-51; Sub-sections-3-&-4. (Rephrased and paraphrased)



If after you finished reading these, and you still have questions, let me know.


Meanwhile, go and find the INEC’s “Regulations and Guidelines” and read too.,, so that you can understand more about the BVAS and Collation, and all those other terms

Section 136 subsection 1-3 answers it better.we have discussed this before

rolams:


You are mixing two things, the result announced was based on the captured ones. It is captured and send. But accreditation was done on the BVAS from morning till end of the voting process. Result is just one file, but accreditation is gotten different files of individual data, it will be later compiled in unit data file.

Did you read the INEC’s “Regulations And Guidelines For The Conduct Of Elections 2022”??

Because they detailed a lot of things inside the document.

...
After capturing the photos of the results and sending to the Results Portal ONLINE (the ones we can view),, the POs are to manually key-in the results and transmit to the RESULTS SERVER, (Also known technically by the INEC as CSRVS)..

The results in the CSRVS are not in form of photos of Polling-unit Results.
CSRVS does Collation as well.

Go and read that document, understand it very well.
Then, combine it with whatever “tech” knowledge you already have..
Then come back and teach me more, because I am very ready to rub minds with you and learn more.


THAT IS WHY I REALLY NEED SOMEONE FROM INSIDE INEC TO PUT US THROUGH ON ALL THESE LOOPHOLES BEFORE FEBRUARY-25TH..

garfield1:


Section 136 subsection 1-3 answers it better.we have discussed this before

Those ones we discussed in Section-136 were supposed to be issues that concern the “Election Tribunal”.
And I understood everything you said inside that thread..


Right now,, we are looking forward to 25th February and beyond, which is still ahead.





Now,, let us try to use what happened in the past to predict what might be obtainable in the future....
If there was something that was known as “CSRVS”,, (which was supposed to have the complete data before the final results were declared), then, INEC should start telling us why they were so silent about it in the Tribunal.
And why they preferred to go ahead to produce a “BVAS-Report” that was not ready yet.

rolams:


Many of you guys don't understand this tech issue.

You are the one that isn't understanding.it seems the card reader sends data faster than bvas...
Now when accreditation is ongoing depending on the bvas,they either transmit automatically or they are exported bit by bits but accreditation data are usually transmitted long before results and they dont need network unlike result uploads which even needs a special URL and a password.
Now assuming not all data are sent,some polling units would not have accreditation data.it will be blank.it is like when you are sending SMS with over 300 words.due to the size,hundred can be sent at at time..
Talking about biometrics,once a person presents herself for accreditation, it will scan his or her fingerprint or face to look for the match.that is the hardest or most difficult job of the bvas.sending the accredited figures is similar to sending numbers.it is not as heavy as uploading results

BluntCrazeMan:
Did you read the INEC’s “Regulations And Guidelines For The Conduct Of Elections 2022”??

Because they detailed a lot of things inside the document.

...
After capturing the photos of the results and sending to the Results Portal ONLINE (the ones we can view),, the POs are to manually key-in the results and transmit to the RESULTS SERVER, (Also known technically by the INEC as CSRVS)..

The results in the CSRVS are not in form of photos of Polling-unit Results.
CSRVS does Collation as well.

Go and read that document, understand it very well.
Then, combine it with whatever “tech” knowledge you already have..
Then come back and teach me more, because I am very ready to rub minds with you and learn more.


THAT IS WHY I REALLY NEED SOMEONE FROM INSIDE INEC TO PUT US THROUGH ON ALL THESE LOOPHOLES BEFORE FEBRUARY-25TH..

I understand everything you are talking about. But the thing you are not getting is 'the result entered on the machine just like the phone number you dialed and send but accreditation is not like that in the process of synchronization.

garfield1:


You are the one that isn't understanding.it seems the card reader sends data faster than bvas...
Now when accreditation is ongoing depending on the bvas,they either transmit automatically or they are exported bit by bits but accreditation data are usually transmitted long before results and they dont need network unlike result uploads which even needs a special URL and a password.
Now assuming not all data are sent,some polling units would not have accreditation data.it will be blank.it is like when you are sending SMS with over 300 words.due to the size,hundred can be sent at at time..
Talking about biometrics,once a person presents herself for accreditation, it will scan his or her fingerprint or face to look for the match.that is the hardest or most difficult job of the bvas.sending the accredited figures is similar to sending numbers.it is not as heavy as uploading results

I have mentioned this from my responses go through all. You will get my point.

rolams:


I understand everything you are talking about. But the thing you are not getting is 'the result entered on the machine just like the phone number you dialed and send but accreditation is not like that in the process of “SYNCHRONIZATION”.

Na now you come.



So, describe this “SYNCHRONISATION” very well for me...

And tell me exactly why it wastes so much time, as compared to the transmitted results.

...

BluntCrazeMan:
Those ones we discussed in Section-136 were supposed to be issues that concern the “Election Tribunal”.
And I understood everything you said inside that thread..


Right now,, we are looking forward to 25th February and beyond, which is still ahead.





Now,, let us try to use what happened in the past to predict what might be obtainable in the future....
If there was something that was known as “CSRVS”,, (which was supposed to have the complete data before the final results were declared), then, INEC should start telling us why they were so silent about it in the Tribunal.
And why they preferred to go ahead to produce a “BVAS-Report” that was not ready yet.

It seems we have to go back to card readers or inec sort out this accreditation issues.why wasn't this issues raised in ekiti

rolams:


I understand everything you are talking about. But the thing you are not getting is 'the result entered on the machine just like the phone number you dialed and send but accreditation is not like that in the process of “SYNCHRONIZATION”.

This now even leads me to the another question.

According to the way the Osun Tribunal went down, does that mean that the availability of the “Fully Synchronised BVAS-Report” is supposed to supersede and overcome the CSRVS-Report, owing to the reason why they didn't Provide the CSRVS-Report ---
And we are to bear in mind that the Collated-Results inside the “CSRVS-Server” was the actual “Back-end data” which was directly used during the election in question.


I am really really not understanding INEC oooo...

garfield1:


It seems we have to go back to card readers or inec sort out this accreditation issues. why wasn't this issues raised in ekiti

Starting from Anambra sef..
None of the failed candidates had ever had the guts to petition the BVAS Data..

Andy-Uba would have petitioned the results, but he was disqualified in the process.
In Ekiti, they didn't petition the BVAS Data.
..
..
Thus, Osun is an eye-opener.
And I am very happy that they petitioned it.
It would only make the process better and tighter.

BluntCrazeMan:
Starting from Anambra sef..
None of the won candidates had the guts to petition the BVAS Data..

Andy-Uba would have petitioned the results, but he was disqualified in the process.
In Ekiti, they didn't petition the BVAS Data.
..
..
Thus, Osun is an eye-opener.
And I am very happy that they petitioned it.
It would only make the process better and tighter.

There was even issues with anambra results.from result portal,apc won heavily in parts of aguata and idemili north but inec didnt record it

rolams:


I have mentioned this from my responses go through all. You will get my point.

Where

garfield1:


There was even issues with anambra results.from result portal, apc won heavily in parts of aguata and idemili north but inec didnt record it

Hahahaaaahahahaaaaaahahaa..
.
Andy-Uba was prepared to use those uploaded results to go to the Tribunal..
It would have been another big eye-opener again.

Fergie001, Feggie3, Penguin2, Naptu2.
I would like to have your inputs please.

Danishguy:
I think the inec synchronisation works like the bookmark function of a low tier browser it's there but not really there.

What this means is inec can sit on results and give out whatever they wish for at the end of the day.

THEY BETTER NOT TRY THIS NONSENSE OOO.!!!

inoki247:


maybe 3years plus 40days each for every state 😏😏😏

This better be a big Joke shaa..