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Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by damkin24(m): 12:56pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
If the whole truth could be unrivalled about the whole thing it would be much better and help in future elections. But something just came to my mind that what if the judgment has been in favour of Adeleke and PDP I doubt if you would have written all this epistles. 2 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Johnn44: 1:04pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by BluntCrazeMan: 1:07pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
SouthSouth1914:The things I say are mostly backed by information and knowledge. I am always ready to learn and relearn |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by BluntCrazeMan: 1:11pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
damkin24:Even though I never supported Andy-Uba of Anambra, do you know that it pained me badly when INEC disqualified him.?? Because, the Anambra Election Tribunal was about to explode a lot of things. Anything that brings the truth out, is what I support. This particular Osun Election is not supposed to be of any concern to me. But for the fact that I am studying the efficiency and the effectiveness of the BVAS,, I had been asking lots of questions.. Even far before the election itself took place. 2 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by reddingtonblack: 1:33pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
SmartPolician: Just when i thot your comment will be void of sentiments today you ended up being clever by half ... We know there are clauses for re-run upon mal-practices or over voting. In the case of Osun election Adeleke and Oyetola polled 254698 and 254,345 respectively with the difference of 353. But at the hearing of the case in court, from the audit of Bvas report inec used to declared Adeleke governor, it was discover Oyetola actually pulled more votes @ 314,921 while Adeleke drop down to 290,666 and according to the elctoral act if the differences is way higher than the cancelled polls, its simply means their is no course for Re-run. Now Oyetola filed two cases, One against and the other one is certificate forgery against Adeleke, both cases are potent enought to unsit Adeleke, funnily no one is paying attention to the fact that the three judges that sat on friday unanimously ajudicate Adeleke presented a forged result. base on electoral laws even that one is admissible enough to unsit Adeleke. Time will tell 3 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by muykem: 1:53pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
let me tell you the truth of the case. BVAS was used and worked effectively. Politicians with help of INE staff actually baypass BVAS in some places. |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by adesola89: 1:56pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
The facts About Osun Election Tribunal Judgement (1.) Election was conducted at the polling units and after the election the presiding officer checked the BVAS machine for the accreditation figures in the presence of the party agents. The party agents of APC and PDP signed the EC8A forms confirming the adequacy of the information on the BVAS machine. 2) After the election, the presiding officer is expected to press a button on the BVAS machine to transfer the accreditation figures on the BVAS machine to the back end server which will be uploading each of the accredited voters on the server. Meanwhile, if the BVAS machine shut down before the complete transmission of the accreditation data, it will stop and will not reflect on the back end server. This implies backend server will read false over voting. 3). The announcement of the winner by INEC on the 17th of July, 2022 was based on the information on the BVAS machine not the back end server because some were asking on what basis was the winner declared if the server data were incomplete. Now to the petition 4). APC applied for the BVAS report on the 17th of July, 2022, the day the results was announced and INEC printed the report from their back end server. This report shows false over voting in 1750 polling units across the 30 local governments in Osun State. If the 1750 polling units where over voting occurred were considered, Adeleke would have still been leading with over 20, 000 votes. However, APC only took 749 polling units of these from 10 local governments which are Adeleke's strong holds including Ede North, Ede South and Osogbo LGs to the court. 5). Seeing the petition of APC, Adeleke and PDP equally applied to INEC for BVAS report from back end server in August, 2022. INEC issued the report printed from back end server to them. This report shows false over voting in about 150 polling units across the state. 6). The above showed there is discrepancy between the two reports from the back end server. INEC official who issued the two reports came to testify that the initial report issued to APC was incomplete while the one issued to PDP is after synchronization. 7). Meanwhile, PDP sought the order of tribunal to carry out the inspection of BVAS machine of which an expert was invited. The findings of the physical inspection of the machine suggest that the data on the form EC8As issued at the polling units are the same in the BVAS machine except in six polling units. The BVAS machines in the contested polling units numbering about 1000 were brought to the court and the report of the physical inspection by expert was admitted by the tribunal. In the six polling units, Adeleke scored about 1000 votes and Oyetola had 700 votes. . The chairman of the panel in his judgement ignored the report from the BVAS machine itself which is the primary source of evidence and instead based his judgement on the report from the server issued to APC which INEC said was incomplete. 9). The minority judgement which affirms Adeleke on the other hand prefers the report from the BVAS machine itself brought to the court. He argued that primary source of evidence is superior to the secondary source which is even controversial in this case. Now the questions are: Why will the tribunal chairman ignored the BVAS machine put in front of him but prefers server report which was said to be incomplete even by INEC? Why didn't the judge take note of the fact that APC agents signed the form ECAs in all the contested 749 polling units. It is left for the people of sane mind to judge. muykem: 2 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Bovis(m): 1:56pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan:No brainer OP, the synchronised bvas was fraudulently arranged in Osun by INEC after receiving huge amounts of money from the Adeleke team - that’s why it took 40 days to produce after the election 1 Like |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by benedictuyi(m): 2:01pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
JAMO84:But that was exactly what the electoral committee did. They cancelled the polling units that had verifiable evidence of over voting. The remaining results was used to ascertain Oyetola the winner 2 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by savcy(m): 2:02pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Sterope: The issue is those who voted without accreditation weren't captured by the BVAS, hence the Tribunal's verdict. What that OP said is true. The BVAS has gone through every manipulation tests prior to its acceptance and approval by INEC. The machine is an intelligent piece of hardware that accredits according to process. If ever there's over-voting recorded in any PU, the BVAS would have the authentic number of voters. So those thugs and saboteurs who plan on intimidating adhoc staff and force authentication and voting would only end up denting their preferred candidate's chances. 3 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by sparko1(m): 2:03pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
garfield1: The reason for the issue is because of over voting, if there was over voting they would definitely present it at the tribunal. |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by BluntCrazeMan: 2:04pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Bovis: Then, they should come out bravely and either accept or deny it. Let us know exactly where we are at the moment. |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by savcy(m): 2:06pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
gbogboija: I'm shocked that you also don't see Oyetola as a victim (or potentially one) here. If it's indeed established that there was over-voting in Osun, wouldn't it be in the best interest of our electoral process that Oyetola is declared winner? I care about who wins now, but I care more about the process. I won't have even the best candidates winning elections through faulty a process. God forbid. 2 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by benedictuyi(m): 2:08pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Northernblood8:Regarding this BVAS, I have a question. For example, let's say party A has strong hold in a particular polling unit. In order to nullify the result from that unit, won't it be easy for party B to send unregistered agents to cause over voting? |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by AK481(m): 2:09pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Afamed: Where there is over voting and the cancellation is not sufficient to change the outcome ,then the winner is announced otherwise a rerun in affected area . |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by emerged01(m): 2:11pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
With the system e fit take INEC 6months to declare winner except the case will be like that of Osun. |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Afamed: 2:13pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Parachoko: From Tribunal to Supreme court. They have 180 days to determine the case. As it stands now, Appeal court has 60 days to determine the case, Then from there supreme court also has 60 days |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Parachoko: 2:14pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
benedictuyi:They will be detected while going through BVAS, it will show they are not suppose to vote at such a polling unit. 1 Like |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Afamed: 2:16pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
rolams: How did you now explain those that voted but are not captured in the Bvas? 1 Like |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Parachoko: 2:16pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Afamed:okay |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Afamed: 2:17pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
SmartPolician: I will not waste my time with you. You definitely know , I have exposed your ignorance here to the general public 2 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Sterope(f): 2:17pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
If it worked the way to supposed to work, non-accredited votes wouldn't be an issue at all. Unless I don't understand and you care to explain. savcy: 1 Like |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Sterope(f): 2:20pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Are you staying that BVAS can't disregard the non accredited votes? How are they able to vote with a failed facial and thumbprint authentication? Northernblood8: |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Afamed: 2:21pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
DesChyko: The results of those polling units where there are no over voting are announced. Winner declares as long as he meets the required 25% vots casted spread in each the local govt areas, and also meet the simple majority, 2 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by benedictuyi(m): 2:21pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
Parachoko:Ohhh. So over voting can only occur if the inec officials assigned to a polling unit allows it |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by babyfaceafrica: 2:23pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
SmartPolician: Lmao.. The judiciary are part of the society.. We need to change of system values 1 Like |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by sparko1(m): 2:27pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
adesola89: Let's follow your process, there was an interruption and the result wasn't transmitted to the back end. 1. Which figure was then used to certify the result? 2. If the machine stops transmission, where does the information get stored on, on a temporary storage device which can be accessed? (we already said it can't be online because it stopped sending), if that is the case why do we need the BVAS in the first place? The whole reason for the the BVAS is so information can be sent electronically and immediately, if the BVAS machine still have to be taken to the collation center and be checked manually, INEC have succeeded in nothing, no different. 3. I am a Computer Scientist, and from what I know, the information is already on INEC server, the information was uploaded into the database when we registered, so what the BVAS does is compare the information captured with what is in the database, once that is confirmed the individual is cleared and allowed to vote. Once the voting is done, they don't need to Send pictures, the list of names and unique code is sent to the database for confirmation and collation. It does not matter when the information is accessed, even during the voting, you should be able to see those who have been accredited by BVAS from anywhere, if this is not the case, then BVAS is USELESS. 4 Likes |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by Softmirror: 2:32pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
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Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by ejimatic: 2:35pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan:God will bless yiu for this discussion.The truth is INEC does not have any genuine excuse. Synchronisation is a cover face excuse. for them. INEC issued one report to APC after the election.Another to PDP 44 days later and another one to INEC lawyers. Reports 1 to 3 have errors even the last two synchronised reports. Is INEC serious at all or there are sabouteurs in INEC itself? Which report should be used by the TB? Is it the one used Ito declared the results possessed by APC or the ones twarted or doctored by INEC and christened SYNCHRONISED report? Logically the postion of the majority judgement is salient, genuine and undeniable! INEC must be ashamed of what they did in Osun election .Till now the body is silent on what to say or do next.Their CATHEDRAL SILENCE is a ploy to bury their shame . 1 Like |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by rotexxe(m): 2:37pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
VERY APT! I'M AFRAID INEC IS OVER STRECHING HER LIMIT. IT'S DOES'T AND SHOULDN'T TAKE MORETHAN 24 HOURS POST ELECTION FOR INFORMATIONS TO BE UPLOADED & SYNCHRONIZED AND IF ANYTHING ELSE, INEC SHOULD NEVER HAVE BROUGHT IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF INEC ISN'T COMPLICIT BY TRYING TO COVER THEIR SHAME WHICH LEAD TO SYNCHRONIZED VERSION OF BVAS, HENCE WE CANNOT DISREGARED NETWORK ERROR CONSIDERING THE VOLUME. BUT, I HOWEVER DOUBT INEC SINCERITY BECAUSE SAME PROCESS TOOK PLACE IN EKITI. HERE IS THE DANGER... GENERAL ELECTION IS COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, CAN WE TRUST INEC? NETWORK? WHY DIDN'T WE ACCEPT OUR LIMITATION BY MODIFYING OPTION A4 FOR SIMPLICITY AND LESS COSTLY SIGNIFICANTLY? FOR INEC COMPLICITY? THIS IS HOW... EVEN THE SYNCHRONIZED VERSION WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BY BOTH PDP & INEC OF OVER VOTING. THEREFORE, HOW EFFICIENT, RELIABILITY OF THIS SO CALL BVAS? WHY DIDN'T APC INFORMED BY INEC ABOUT THE SYCHRONIZED VERSION AS AGAINST WHAT WAS INITIALLY ISSUESD TO APC BEFORE ISSUING ANOTHER VERSION TO PDP HENCE FORENSIC EXPERT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED TO ANALYSE THE PROCESS? IT'S A SHAME. 1 Like |
Re: The INEC’s “BVAS-Report” Versus The “Synchronised BVAS-Report” by adesola89: 3:05pm On Feb 01, 2023 |
With regards to the figure used to certify the election results... The presiding officer checked the figure on the BVAS machine and enter into form EC8A in the presence of all party agents ( the results entered in form EC8A are not from the server) Please note that APC agents in all these units signed the data written on form EC8As from the BVAS machine. Please not that the false over voting occured in 1750 polling units across the 30 local governments in Osun State. It happened in other 1000 polling units where APC won. However, they only took that of 10 local governments to court because that is what will favour them. Also, what I understand is that accreditation at the polling units do not require network to function but transmission of the accreditation data from the machine to backend server does require network. Some of the presiding officers who should have waited for every accreditation data on the BVAS machine to upload to server are the major cause of the problem I must tell. Also, INEC IT officer who issued the server report without checking is another issue. I think mistake of one INEC IT officer and untrained presiding officers should not be used to steal the mandate of Osun people. I was in Osun State on election day and I can tell you in all honesty that there were no over voting but INEC personnel failed in getting the data on the machine get to the server. sparko1: |
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