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No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by cule7(m): 5:59pm On Apr 09, 2022
Further supplies from Bundeswehr stockpiles would undermine Germany’s own defense capabilities, Christine Lambrecht has said

The German military can no longer supply Ukraine with weapons from its stockpiles, Germany’s Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht has said.

In an interview with Die Augsburger Allgemeine Zeitung published on Saturday, Lambrecht said that while “we all have an obligation to support Ukraine in its courageous fight,” in terms of “supplies from the Bundeswehr’s stockpiles” Germany has “in the meantime reached a limit.” She explained that the German military had to “be able to ensure” the country’s own defense.

“But that doesn’t mean we can’t do more for Ukraine,” Lambrecht stressed, suggesting that Kiev could buy equipment it needed from German manufacturers directly. The minister pointed out that the German government “was constantly coordinating” with the authorities in Kiev to facilitate such purchases.

When asked exactly what kind of weaponry was being considered for delivery to Ukraine, Lambrecht refused to go into detail, adding that “there are good reasons why we have classified precisely this information as secret.”

She noted that it was Ukraine that “emphatically” asked Germany not to divulge specifics.

“One must always bear in mind: The moment the deliveries are published in detail, Russia would also have this information. And that alone would have military strategic implications,” she said.

Lambrecht admitted that Germany’s own military was not “as equipped as is necessary.” The minister stressed that she was determined to change this, however, citing Russia’s military offensive against Ukraine as a wake-up call for Berlin.

Speaking on the topic of European defense, the German official pointed out the significance of NATO’s battle groups, adding that the German military was contributing a lot to the alliance’s initiative.

Lambrecht admitted there’s a concern in Germany that weapons supplies could trigger a reaction by Moscow and “war may expand to other areas.” That’s why, she said, it is important “that we act very prudently and with a cool head in these difficult and horrific times.”

Unlike countries such as the US and UK, Germany had initially stopped short of providing Ukraine with lethal weapons after Russia launched its military offensive against its neighbor on February 24. However, amid growing pressure both from Ukraine itself and Germany’s NATO allies, Berlin changed tack, and has supplied at least 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 portable anti-aircraft missiles from its stockpiles. Plans for more deliveries of the same type of weaponry were announced in late March.

Since the launch of Russia’s military offensive in Ukraine, NATO countries and their allies have refrained from direct military involvement in the conflict but have been supplying Ukraine with arms, ammunition, and fuel.

Moscow has repeatedly said Western arms supplies only serve to prolong the conflict and even warned that Russian forces could potentially target such deliveries.

Russia attacked the neighboring state in late February, following Ukraine’s failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements signed in 2014, and Russia’s eventual recognition of the Donbass republics of Donetsk and Lugansk.

The German and French brokered Minsk Protocol was designed to regularize the status of the regions within the Ukrainian state.

Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked and has denied claims it was planning to retake the two regions by force.

https://www.rt.com/news/553592-germany-weapons-deliveries-ukraine/
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Emma15678: 6:15pm On Apr 09, 2022
Una Don Taya?

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by OhMyG0d: 6:20pm On Apr 09, 2022
Instead of dousing the fire, they're bent on adding more flammable to stoke it.
The earlier Zelensky remember that NATO is a military pact and not an economic pact, the better.
Because after the military campaign, they will be the one to bear the brunt of the carnage on their soil.

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by seunny4lif(m): 6:43pm On Apr 09, 2022
Funny thing is Russia is still getting money from Russia via gas supplies through Ukraine.
Russia need to bomb the pipelines and force EU to buy through NS2 and more through Turkish.

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Oddfinder: 7:05pm On Apr 09, 2022
angry
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Elvictor: 7:14pm On Apr 09, 2022
More weapons for Russia to blow up

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by sapientia(m): 7:21pm On Apr 09, 2022
There is a reason West and EU are banning RT news

They can vomit anything and twist it to make Putin fan bots happy

See them already ranting cos they don’t ever read.

Defense industries in Germany will keep supplying weapons cos US and EU will keep sending money

Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by baralatie(m): 7:26pm On Apr 09, 2022
seunny4lif:
Funny thing is Russia is still getting money from Russia via gas supplies through Ukraine.
Russia need to bomb the pipelines and force EU to buy through NS2 and more through Turkish.
NS2 is not operational.yet!

And Turkey gas route is limited
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by baralatie(m): 7:28pm On Apr 09, 2022
OhMyG0d:
Instead of dousing the fire, they're bent on adding more flammable to stoke it.
The earlier Zelensky remember that NATO is a military pact and not an economic pact, the better.
Because after the military campaign, they will be the one to bear the brunt of the carnage on their soil.
Zelensky choice is
War!war!war!
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by baralatie(m): 7:30pm On Apr 09, 2022
sapientia:
There is a reason West and EU are banning RT news

They can vomit anything and twist it to make Putin fan bots happy

See them already ranting cos they don’t ever read.

Defense industries in Germany will keep supplying weapons cos US and EU will keep sending money
Is the money directly to Ukraine or is it going directly to the defense industries in Germany to supply

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by seunny4lif(m): 7:57pm On Apr 09, 2022
baralatie:

NS2 is not operational.yet!

And Turkey gas route is limited
They will be forced to open it and Turkey will hit capacity
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by baralatie(m): 8:07pm On Apr 09, 2022
seunny4lif:

They will be forced to open it and Turkey will hit capacity
Turkey line is not hitting anything.For the turkey gas line to be used like the one in Ukraine,it would be enlarged and upgraded.it would not be possible in this year or next.it is a totally new contract
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by VictorUSA(m): 8:29pm On Apr 09, 2022
Germans are weaklings and very soon they will be irrelevant in the eyes of the world.They are following the footsteps of Angela Merkel.

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by sapientia(m): 8:31pm On Apr 09, 2022
baralatie:

Is the money directly to Ukraine or is it going directly to the defense industries in Germany to supply

They usually specify if it is for weapons or humanitarian aid

It can also come as fund for weapons or weapons with prices attached

The weapons directly from countries arsenals are mostly free

The ones from defense industries are paid for by the money already donated immediately or as a debt to be paid later
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by sapientia(m): 8:34pm On Apr 09, 2022
baralatie:

Zelensky choice is
War!war!war!

Are you aware that Putin also do not want them to join EU?

Putin have made it clear that Ukraine is not a country

The way is not about NATO because the president have made it clear since weeks that Ukraine will not join NATO

Even NATO have been rejecting the application of Ukraine to appease Putin

Is Russia is powerful, they should front a military alliance that will be like NATO and throw it open
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by baralatie(m): 8:48pm On Apr 09, 2022
sapientia:


Are you aware that Putin also do not want them to join EU?

Putin have made it clear that Ukraine is not a country

The way is not about NATO because the president have made it clear since weeks that Ukraine will not join NATO

Even NATO have been rejecting the application of Ukraine to appease Putin

Is Russia is powerful, they should front a military alliance that will be like NATO and throw it open
According to the Minsk 2 agreement brokered by France and Germany

Russia has no problem with Ukraine joining EU .Ukraine was to recognize the self goerning of Donbass regions and stop all hostility likewise to remove it's army.
That one is one said.
Now why is Russia screaming NATO in Ukraine is a problem.ukraine already had adopted NATO membership into it's constitution (meaning wether you and I agree or not NATo is as good as established in Ukraine..reasons why it has consistently been receiving military aid for years before now).The only solution is for Ukraine to have that clause removed from it's constitution and replace it with something else.
Three,the sole reason NATo kept rejecting ukraines membership is because of the 8 year civil war in Ukraine.NATO sees the war as opposing it due to the fact that the regions are pro Russia.
Fourth zelensky became president to endthise wars with the aim of finally joining NATo

That is where Russia got fed up with Ukraine and zelensky and here we are.
War! War! War!

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by seunny4lif(m): 9:40pm On Apr 09, 2022
baralatie:

Turkey line is not hitting anything.For the turkey gas line to be used like the one in Ukraine,it would be enlarged and upgraded.it would not be possible in this year or next.it is a totally new contract
Turk stream is going to hit max very because of the Hungary, Serbia and Bulgaria contacts.
NS1 is on.
Bulgaria government even blamed the previous government for bowing to EU and USA to cancel South stream which could have get them money and cheap Russia straight gas
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by AroleOduduwa2: 7:17am On Apr 10, 2022
Finally they are starting to come to term with reality.

Russia is no Iraq, you can't topple the best intelligence. They preserved their values which makes it hard for external influences.

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by mysticwarrior(m): 3:02am On Feb 05, 2023
cule7:
Further supplies from Bundeswehr stockpiles would undermine Germany’s own defense capabilities, Christine Lambrecht has said

The German military can no longer supply Ukraine with weapons from its stockpiles, Germany’s Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht has said.

In an interview with Die Augsburger Allgemeine Zeitung published on Saturday, Lambrecht said that while “we all have an obligation to support Ukraine in its courageous fight,” in terms of “supplies from the Bundeswehr’s stockpiles” Germany has “in the meantime reached a limit.” She explained that the German military had to “be able to ensure” the country’s own defense.

“But that doesn’t mean we can’t do more for Ukraine,” Lambrecht stressed, suggesting that Kiev could buy equipment it needed from German manufacturers directly. The minister pointed out that the German government “was constantly coordinating” with the authorities in Kiev to facilitate such purchases.

When asked exactly what kind of weaponry was being considered for delivery to Ukraine, Lambrecht refused to go into detail, adding that “there are good reasons why we have classified precisely this information as secret.”

She noted that it was Ukraine that “emphatically” asked Germany not to divulge specifics.

“One must always bear in mind: The moment the deliveries are published in detail, Russia would also have this information. And that alone would have military strategic implications,” she said.

Lambrecht admitted that Germany’s own military was not “as equipped as is necessary.” The minister stressed that she was determined to change this, however, citing Russia’s military offensive against Ukraine as a wake-up call for Berlin.

Speaking on the topic of European defense, the German official pointed out the significance of NATO’s battle groups, adding that the German military was contributing a lot to the alliance’s initiative.

Lambrecht admitted there’s a concern in Germany that weapons supplies could trigger a reaction by Moscow and “war may expand to other areas.” That’s why, she said, it is important “that we act very prudently and with a cool head in these difficult and horrific times.”

Unlike countries such as the US and UK, Germany had initially stopped short of providing Ukraine with lethal weapons after Russia launched its military offensive against its neighbor on February 24. However, amid growing pressure both from Ukraine itself and Germany’s NATO allies, Berlin changed tack, and has supplied at least 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 portable anti-aircraft missiles from its stockpiles. Plans for more deliveries of the same type of weaponry were announced in late March.

Since the launch of Russia’s military offensive in Ukraine, NATO countries and their allies have refrained from direct military involvement in the conflict but have been supplying Ukraine with arms, ammunition, and fuel.

Moscow has repeatedly said Western arms supplies only serve to prolong the conflict and even warned that Russian forces could potentially target such deliveries.

Russia attacked the neighboring state in late February, following Ukraine’s failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements signed in 2014, and Russia’s eventual recognition of the Donbass republics of Donetsk and Lugansk.

The German and French brokered Minsk Protocol was designed to regularize the status of the regions within the Ukrainian state.

Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked and has denied claims it was planning to retake the two regions by force.

https://www.rt.com/news/553592-germany-weapons-deliveries-ukraine/
I laugh in Czechoslovakian, same Germans saying the reason they don't want to supply weapons to Ukraine is beacaus they want to keep those weapons for German defense, and now they also saying Ukraine should buy the same weapons they don't want to supply.

Chai these people are just fooling zenlensky and are using the Ukrainian war to enrich themselves, they know Ukraine can never win that war but it's sad that these people are making things worst for the ordinary Ukrainian citizens.

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:42am On Feb 05, 2023
AroleOduduwa2:
Finally they are starting to come to term with reality.

Russia is no Iraq, you can't topple the best intelligence. They preserved their values which makes it hard for external influences.
exactly.
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by AmuDimpka: 6:18am On Feb 05, 2023
sapientia:


Are you aware that Putin also do not want them to join EU?

Putin have made it clear that Ukraine is not a country

The way is not about NATO because the president have made it clear since weeks that Ukraine will not join NATO

Even NATO have been rejecting the application of Ukraine to appease Putin

Is Russia is powerful, they should front a military alliance that will be like NATO and throw it open
Russia is powerful enough that they don't need military alliance they can do it alone and they have been fantastic in dealing with NATO and EU

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Tiopii: 6:27am On Feb 05, 2023
OhMyG0d:
Instead of dousing the fire, they're bent on adding more flammable to stoke it.
The earlier Zelensky remember that NATO is a military pact and not an economic pact, the better.
Because after the military campaign, they will be the one to bear the brunt of the carnage on their soil.


Not really, there are several billionaires and companies that have committed several sum for the redevelopment of Ukr immediately the war is over..
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Tiopii: 6:33am On Feb 05, 2023
AmuDimpka:
Russia is powerful enough that they don't need military alliance they can do it alone and they have been fantastic in dealing with NATO and EU


Naaaahh. NATO and EU are just being cautious to prevent direct confrontation and Nuclear war. It should be obvious by now that this Russia army can't go against the US army takeless of the entire NATO bloc.

In a event of direct confrontation, Russia's best option is to go Nuclear cos the NATO bloc have the better weapons and better trained men. see how much damage Ukr caused Russia already with western weapons they are not very familiar with
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Tiopii: 6:36am On Feb 05, 2023
mysticwarrior:
I laugh in Czechoslovakian, same Germans saying the reason they don't want to supply weapons to Ukraine is beacaus they want to keep those weapons for German defense, and now they also saying Ukraine should buy the same weapons they don't want to supply.

Chai these people are just fooling zenlensky and are using the Ukrainian war to enrich themselves, they know Ukraine can never win that war but it's sad that these people are making things worst for the ordinary Ukrainian citizens.


You don't understand how military industrial complex works. What Germany meant is weapons would take longer to get to Ukraine cos they won't give them directly from their own Arsenal. They would buy from the company producing the stock so as not to affect their own Arsenal
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by AmuDimpka: 6:40am On Feb 05, 2023
Tiopii:



Naaaahh. NATO and EU are just being cautious to prevent direct confrontation and Nuclear war. It should be obvious by now that this Russia army can't go against the US army takeless of the entire NATO bloc.

In a event of direct confrontation, Russia's best option is to go Nuclear cos the NATO bloc have the better weapons and better trained men. see how much damage Ukr caused Russia already with western weapons they are not very familiar with
been cautious is another word of been afraid

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Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by fydence: 6:43am On Feb 05, 2023
Tiopii:



Naaaahh. NATO and EU are just being cautious to prevent direct confrontation and Nuclear war. It should be obvious by now that this Russia army can't go against the US army takeless of the entire NATO bloc.

In a event of direct confrontation, Russia's best option is to go Nuclear cos the NATO bloc have the better weapons and better trained men. see how much damage Ukr caused Russia already with western weapons they are not very familiar with
They should not be cautious...they should engage Russia.
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Tiopii: 6:47am On Feb 05, 2023
sapientia:


Are you aware that Putin also do not want them to join EU?

Putin have made it clear that Ukraine is not a country

The way is not about NATO because the president have made it clear since weeks that Ukraine will not join NATO

Even NATO have been rejecting the application of Ukraine to appease Putin

Is Russia is powerful, they should front a military alliance that will be like NATO and throw it open


They have their own military alliance CSTO, but it isn't as strong as NATO. you need money to have a strong military.
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Tiopii: 6:56am On Feb 05, 2023
AmuDimpka:
been cautious is another word of been afraid


You are not entirely wrong, nobody wants Nuclear war, in an event of direct confrontation with NATO, Russia only option is to go Nuclear. Both nations would be impacted heavily. NATO is a Nuclear capable alliance. in CSTO Russia's version of NATO, only Russia possess nuclear weapons.


And even in the event of confrontation, the US would make a faster recovery obviously not same can be said for Russia. regardless of the eventual winner, great damage would be done. No country in the war has ever attacked US mainland there's a reason why
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Tiopii: 6:57am On Feb 05, 2023
fydence:
They should not be cautious...they should engage Russia.


To what end??
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by AmuDimpka: 7:21am On Feb 05, 2023
Tiopii:



You are not entirely wrong, nobody wants Nuclear war, in an event of direct confrontation with NATO, Russia only option is to go Nuclear. Both nations would be impacted heavily. NATO is a Nuclear capable alliance. in CSTO Russia's version of NATO, only Russia possess nuclear weapons.


And even in the event of confrontation, the US would make a faster recovery obviously not same can be said for Russia. regardless of the eventual winner, great damage would be done. No country in the war has ever attacked US mainland there's a reason why
is that sooooo
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by mysticwarrior(m): 12:40pm On Feb 05, 2023
Tiopii:



You don't understand how military industrial complex works. What Germany meant is weapons would take longer to get to Ukraine cos they won't give them directly from their own Arsenal. They would buy from the company producing the stock so as not to affect their own Arsenal
During the battle of the Easten front the Germans were constantly sending weapons to their troops station there, please Note that the German army was even overstretched at that time and the distance from Germany to Russian territories was about 1,700 miles, there were even supplying their troops with weapons through Air until the Soviet starts downing German supply aircrafts. So you see sending those weapons to Ukraine wouldn't take long especially in this modern era.

The company you said is producing those weapons is it not a German company? Or are you trying to tell me that Germany is too poor to buy those weapons from the company and send them to Ukraine?
Re: No More German Army Weapons For Ukraine – Berlin by Tiopii: 2:44pm On Feb 05, 2023
mysticwarrior:
During the battle of the Easten front the Germans were constantly sending weapons to their troops station there, please Note that the German army was even overstretched at that time and the distance from Germany to Russian territories was about 1,700 miles, there were even supplying their troops with weapons through Air until the Soviet starts downing German supply aircrafts. So you see sending those weapons to Ukraine wouldn't take long especially in this modern era.

The company you said is producing those weapons is it not a German company? Or are you trying to tell me that Germany is too poor to buy those weapons from the company and send them to Ukraine?



That's what Germany is saying, they would buy and send to Ukraine and not take from their existing Stock cos of National security. The battle of Eastern front, Germany was at War time strength, the current Germany is at peace time strength and they are not mass producing weapons..

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