Frist I must say, this is not my opinion.
I was having discussion with one of the big names on Nairaland Religion and he came up with this new idea that porn isn't a sin.
As Christians do you think it is sinful to indulge in porn?
Below are his very words,
Now, fyi porn isnt necessarily a sin. Porn becomes a sin, when it causes one to indiscriminately lust after flesh, with an indiscriminate lust of the eyes."
What do you think?

Beware of false teachers....


Discipline is a hard thing....so u will find lots of people justifying all manner of things....

that is how we arrived at bisexuality, pansexuality, beastiality, and all manner of boundariless, 3some, 10some, pppe eating shít, and other no disciplined sexual life style.....

my own is ...truthfully obey jesus' teaching which he also said are not of his own but of God who sent him...and u will find out ur discipline level will increase so much that u wont need anyone to tell u these things are wrong or right before u find them distasteful

Pornography never deal with you before.
Ask d pork addicts how far

Porn is a sin.

Intact thinking about it is sinful.

tctrills:
Frist I must say, this is not my opinion.
I was having discussion with one of the big names on Nairaland Religion and he came up with this new idea that porn isn't a sin.
As Christians do you think it is sinful to indulge in porn?

Below are his very words,
"Now, fyi porn isnt necessarily a sin.
Porn becomes a sin,
when it causes one to indiscriminately lust after flesh, with an indiscriminate lust of the eyes."

What do you think?

2 Samuel 11:2
2One evening David got up from his couch
and was walking on the roof of the king’s palace,
and from there he saw a woman bathing;
and she was very beautiful in appearance.
3David sent word and inquired about the woman.
Someone said, “Is this not Bathsheba,
the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?”
4David sent messengers and took her. When she came to him, he lay with her.
And when she was purified from her uncleanness, she returned to her house.
5The woman conceived; and she sent word and told David,
“I am pregnant.”

Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that whoever looks at a woman and cherishes lustful thoughts
has already in his heart become guilty with regard to her.

1. Can a man (e.g. king David) admire a beautiful woman without sexually fantasizing about her or without lusting after her?
2. At what point(s) in 2 Samuel 11:2 above, did king David commit a sin?
3. What does lust mean?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
2 Samuel 11:2
2One evening David got up from his couch
and was walking on the roof of the king’s palace,
and from there he saw a woman bathing;
and she was very beautiful in appearance.
3David sent word and inquired about the woman.
Someone said, “Is this not Bathsheba,
the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?”
4David sent messengers and took her. When she came to him, he lay with her.
And when she was purified from her uncleanness, she returned to her house.
5The woman conceived; and she sent word and told David,
“I am pregnant.”

Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that whoever looks at a woman and cherishes lustful thoughts
has already in his heart become guilty with regard to her.

1. Can a man (e.g. king David) admire a beautiful woman without sexually fantasizing about her or without lusting after her?
2. At what point(s) in 2 Samuel 11:2 above, did king David commit a sin?
3. What does lust mean?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Looool. You mean you watch porn just to admire beautiful women without sexually fantasizing about them?
From the example you gave, it's clear that you don't understand what porn or explicit content is. Writing about sex in itself is not necessarily classified as sexual literature. It is the discriptive nature of sexual acts or sexual emotions that we are talking about here.
So bumping into a naked woman is not porn. When David saw a naked woman, that was not pornography by any account. Sexually explicit content is not the same thing as mistakenly seeing a woman's body.
When you intentionally read literature or watch content filled with sexual material then you somehow convince yourself that you do it just to admire beautiful women, oga you just dey play.

tctrills:
Looool. You mean you watch porn just to admire beautiful women without sexually fantasizing about them?
From the example you gave, it's clear that you don't understand what porn or explicit content is. Writing about sex in itself is not necessarily classified as sexual literature. It is the discriptive nature of sexual acts or sexual emotions that we are talking about here.
So bumping into a naked woman is not porn. When David saw a naked woman, that was not pornography by any account. Sexually explicit content is not the same thing as mistakenly seeing a woman's body.
When you intentionally read literature or watch content filled with sexual material then you somehow convince yourself that you do it just to admire beautiful women, oga you just dey play.

Simply and kindly, without going on a tangent, just answer the three numbered questions, put to you please. Thank you.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Simply and kindly, without going on a tangent, just answer the three numbered questions, put to you please. Thank you.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

But the questions have nothing to do with the discussion sir.
Someone who practice self restrain would not engage in reading or watching pornography materials

tctrills:
But the questions have nothing to do with the discussion sir.

You're just like the serpent. Sneaky and sly
Latching on words, twisting them out of shape and distorting them.
Three easy, direct, simple and harmless questions, you are afraid to answer.
Hiding from answering the three question and he wants to have a discussion. Pfft.
You arent having a discussion, you are schemer feeding your fixed agenda.

tctrills:
Someone who practice self restrain would not engage in reading or watching pornography materials

Weak minded males, wouldnt know what self restraint is. Talkless how to practice self restraint

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
You're just like the serpent. Sneaky and sly
Latching on words, twisting them out of shape and distorting them.
Three easy, direct, simple and harmless questions, you are afraid to answer.
Hiding from answering the three question and he wants to have a discussion. Pfft.
You arent having a discussion, you are schemer feeding your fixed agenda.

Weak minded males, wouldnt know what self restraint is. Talkless how to practice self restraint

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Oga your questions have nothing to do with the topic. Ask relevant questions and you would get my reply.

You can't be bringing up distractions and expect me to follow in that direction. I would be a fool to start talking about David and lust when that has nothing to do with our discussion.
Self restrain means staying away from sexual material. You can't be a porn watcher are claim that you have self restrain. It does not work that way.

tctrills:
Oga your questions have nothing to do with the topic.

You know you'll expose yourself to hits, if you so much dare answer those questions

tctrills:
Ask relevant questions and you would get my reply.

The fear of those questions, causes you hide

tctrills:
You can't be bringing up distractions and expect me to follow in that direction.

Its is because you havent the concept of what, ordinarily, means

tctrills:
I would be a fool to start talking about David and lust when that has nothing to do with our discussion.

You're more a fool, refraining from talking about what point did king David committed a sin, or running from saying what negative lust means

tctrills:
Self restrain means staying away from sexual material. You can't be a porn watcher are claim that you have self restrain. It does not work that way.

Classic example of self restraint, is, give a cat, a bowl of milk to guard for one hour, and come back to see the bowl of milk intact, meaning untouched and without so much of a lick of it by the cat.

Its only a learner and a small minded bigot, who would furtively go open up a thread, to try distort an issue and blow it out of proportion

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
You know you'll expose yourself to hits, if you so much dare answer those questions

The fear of those questions, causes you hide

Its is because you havent the concept of what, ordinarily, means

You're more a fool, refraining from talking about what point did king David committed a sin, or running from saying what negative lust means

Classic example of self restraint, is, give a cat, a bowl of milk to guard for one hour, and come back to see the bowl of milk intact, meaning untouched and without so much of a lick of it by the cat.

Its only a learner and a small minded bigot, who would furtively go open up a thread, to try distort an issue and blow it out of proportion

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Now it's clear you honestly don't understand. I feel you are not trying to be mischievous but you just don't understand.
Why are your questions our of place?
Our discussion is about engaging in pornographic literature and materials.
David did not engage in such. He saw a naked woman and lost restrain.
Bumping into a woman taking her bath is not the same as engaging in pornographic literature.
Now if mistakenly you bumping into porn, self restrain means that you immediately take of your eyes. Only a fool would continue to engage in porn in the name of self restrain.
Do you now see why your question was not fit for our discussion?

You are right when you say
"Its only a learner and a small minded bigot, who would furtively go open up a thread, to try distort an issue and blow it out of proportion"
That was why I took premission and I quoted you word for word. I see that you are getting uncomfortable. Clearly you are the only Christian that sees virtue in porn

tctrills:
Now it's clear you honestly don't understand. I feel you are not trying to be mischievous but you just don't understand.

Feel is what carnal minded people do, so I am not surprised

tctrills:
Why are your questions our of place?

To an escape artist, to a question dodger, the questions are out of place

tctrills:
Our discussion is about engaging in pornographic literature and materials.

Pornographic literature and materials are your words. You introduced them

tctrills:
David did not engage in such. He saw a naked woman and lost restrain.

Why didnt Joseph, in a similar situation didnt lose restraint. Hmm?

tctrills:
Bumping into a woman taking her bath is not the same as engaging in pornographic literature.

The common denominator in both is nudity.
Not all males are moved by nudity, hence cant or wouldnt necessarily develop into a handicap

tctrills:
Now if mistakenly you bumping into porn, self restrain means that you immediately take of your eyes.

Now would not then necessarily be a sin. Hmm?

tctrills:
Only a fool would continue to engage in porn in the name of self restrain.

An alcoholic, if knows what best for him or her, would know well, to stay way clear of the vicinity or sight of alcohol. Are you getting it now?

tctrills:
Do you now see why your question was not fit for our discussion?

I see a person being intimidated by easy, simple and harmless questions

tctrills:
You are right when you say
"Its only a learner and a small minded bigot, who would furtively go open up a thread, to try distort an issue and blow it out of proportion"
That was why I took premission and I quoted you word for word.

Can you say that you honestly and honourably created the thread

tctrills:
... I see that you are getting uncomfortable.

I dont find weasels comfortable. I dont suffer gladly accusers of the brethren

tctrills:
... Clearly you are the only Christian that sees virtue in porn

Clearly, there is a time and place for porn

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Why didnt Joseph, in a similar situation didnt lose restraint. Hmm? Joseph did not open himself to temptation, he fled from it. Unlike you, Joseph would not have engaged in porn claim he has self restrain.

The common denominator in both is nudity.
Not all males are moved by nudity, hence cant or wouldnt necessarily develop into a handicap
Nudity isn't the denominator. Doctors and nurses are exposed to nudity everyday. It you keep reading about sex and watch blue flim you are polluting your soul. On the other hand, a doctor is not polluting his soul when he treats a naked patient. That is why we are comfortable to take off our cloths before a doctor or s nurse.


I see a person being intimidated by easy, simple and harmless questions I see a young porn fan who is confused and is asking irrelevant questions that only waste time.

Can you say that you honestly and honourably created the thread please point out the dishonesty in my actions because I can say I was 100 percent transparent with you.



Clearly, there is a time and place for porn oga better flee from porn and save your sinking soul

Every time they say something is not a sin, eg fornication, marriage to more than 1, tattoo, smoking, even devil pope said homosexuality which is even clearly prohibited in the Bible) it usually is a sin.

One day one idiot devil would come out to say that sin, is not a sin!

Porn has sent many to hell and yet somebody has the audacity to say it isn't sinful.