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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 9:26pm On Feb 04, 2023
[quote author=fakmurphy post=120639449][/quote]

Ok, so who would stay with the kids when she is gone?

You can’t be paying 100k weekly into her account as the ECO would spot this. That’s not advisable. 100k monthly should be appropriate. How much is her opening balance? The ECO would put this into consideration. If the other kids equally gift her money for upkeep monthly, that should be noted as well. But again, my problem is that if she is receiving 100k from you and most likely she will receive more from her other kids. Which means she will probably be earning more than 200k every month. So her spending only 40k monthly would be an issue though (my own opinion). But if you choose to go with it, ensure that when all her outflow is calculated every month, it should amount to 30k - 40k just like you have stated. Note: her opening balance would be highly put into consideration in this case.

I get the savings part between you and your wife, but you sending it back to your wife at this point my just be a wrong move. My opinion is that you leave it in the account and start running the account from the next month, and wait until six months, else it will look like account boosting just for this purpose. Instead of sending it back to your wife’s account, you could’ve actually just made both of you co-sponsors on her trip.

The thing about trips is that it’s always nice to plan them ahead so all the right boxes will be ticked.. doing sharp sharp might result into refusal, as what you think you’ve gotten right might just come off as wrong to the ECO
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by fakmurphy(m): 9:38pm On Feb 04, 2023
Mrmoney90:


thanks. I will look into that

Thanks

Ok, so who would stay with the kids when she is gone?

You can’t be paying 100k weekly into her account as the ECO would spot this. That’s not advisable. 100k monthly should be appropriate. How much is her opening balance? The ECO would put this into consideration. If the other kids equally gift her money for upkeep monthly, that should be noted as well. But again, my problem is that if she is receiving 100k from you and most likely she will receive more from her other kids. Which means she will probably be earning more than 200k every month. So her spending only 40k monthly would be an issue though (my own opinion). But if you choose to go with it, ensure that when all her outflow is calculated every month, it should amount to 30k - 40k just like you have stated. Note: her opening balance would be highly put into consideration in this case.

I get the savings part between you and your wife, but you sending it back to your wife at this point my just be a wrong move. My opinion is that you leave it in the account and start running the account from the next month, and wait until six months, else it will look like account boosting just for this purpose. Instead of sending it back to your wife’s account, you could’ve actually just made both of you co-sponsors on her trip.

The thing about trips is that it’s always nice to plan them ahead so all the right boxes will be ticked.. doing sharp sharp might result into refusal, as what you think you’ve gotten right might just come off as wrong to the ECO
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Adazeal: 12:48am On Feb 05, 2023
Hi guys, please I need guidance. Don't want to make mistakes or omit something important.

I want to apply for my mum to visit and spend at least 5 months with my sister and I. What are the documents I need to begin with?

Background: We're both students and my sister just recently gave birth. My mum is a retiree.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Zannies: 2:43am On Feb 05, 2023
Please guys....the main applicant mistakenly fill "no" to the question "is anyone depending on you financially including your dependant" in visa application form and the POF is in the main applicant account.can dependant still use the same POF .
Main applicant visa is out a week ago.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Kenancy: 3:35am On Feb 05, 2023
Mrmoney90:


As soon as you feel your circumstances are better. By the way, why were you refused? Can you share a screenshot here so others can see and advise accordingly.

Regards

The decision : I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 to V4.6 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors becaus You state that you wish to visit the UK for 5 months for the main purpose of visiting family. You state that you are employed as a teacher with a monthly income of 25000.00 NGN (£45.0145@ exchange rate £1 = 540.565 NGN). I have carefully considered which you have submitted in support of your application. all documents You state that your sponsor will be paying towards your visit. However, I must take in to account your personal circumstances when assessing your application. You state that you intend on personally spending 3000000.00 NGN (£5,401.74) on your trip to the UK. I note that your proposed expenditure exceeds your monthly disposable income. This degree of expenditure appears disproportionate to your economic circumstances, leading me to doubt your intentions in seeking to visit the UK for the limited period and purpose stated. In light of all of the above, I am not satisfied that you intend to leave the United Kingdom or that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor. Your application is th erefore refused under paragraph V4.2 (a) and (c).
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Kenancy: 3:43am On Feb 05, 2023
Please this the refusal letter I got. I mistakenly typed that 3000000 in that part that says how you personally intend to spend. But I'd the sponsor that is sponsoring me.
What can I reapply or wait for some time. This
Kenancy:


The decision : I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 to V4.6 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors because You state that you wish to visit the UK for 5 months for the main purpose of visiting family. You state that you are employed as a teacher with a monthly income of 25000.00 NGN (£45.0145@ exchange rate £1 = 540.565 NGN). I have carefully considered which you have submitted in support of your application. all documents You state that your sponsor will be paying towards your visit. However, I must take in to account your personal circumstances when assessing your application. You state that you intend on personally spending 3000000.00 NGN (£5,401.74) on your trip to the UK. I note that your proposed expenditure exceeds your monthly disposable income. This degree of expenditure appears disproportionate to your economic circumstances, leading me to doubt your intentions in seeking to visit the UK for the limited period and purpose stated. In light of all of the above, I am not satisfied that you intend to leave the United Kingdom or that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor. Your application is th erefore refused under paragraph V4.2 (a) and (c).
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Ajalalomo: 4:42am On Feb 05, 2023
giselle237:
u can enter 1.
That’s what my family members fill when they are being sponsored

Please help answer this question about the cost of the visit.



About the cost of your visit.

How much money are you personally planning to spend on your visit to the UK?

Enter the total amount of your money that you intend to spend on your visit to the UK. Estimate the amount and include flights, accommodation and everyday expenses. If someone else is paying for all or part of your visit to the UK, you will be asked to provide details of this later on in the application.

What do you think I should write down?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by fumisko(f): 9:50am On Feb 05, 2023
Kenancy:
Please this the refusal letter I got. I mistakenly typed that 3000000 in that part that says how you personally intend to spend. But I'd the sponsor that is sponsoring me.
What can I reapply or wait for some time. This
Pls never write you are visiting for 5 months
U can come and stay five months if you want.
10 days is enough for any tourist or even to visit someone sposioring you. And just write you Wld spend 700k to 1m max. Because they Wld start comparing it with your salary. What you say you would spend shouldn’t be more than twice your monthly salary
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by fumisko(f): 9:51am On Feb 05, 2023
Kiki25:
If on my application, I say I'm applying for 2 weeks buh I end up staying for 1 month, will it have a negative impact on my future applications?
Noooooooo
Never
Plans change
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 12:07pm On Feb 05, 2023
Kenancy:


The decision : I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 to V4.6 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors becaus You state that you wish to visit the UK for 5 months for the main purpose of visiting family. You state that you are employed as a teacher with a monthly income of 25000.00 NGN (£45.0145@ exchange rate £1 = 540.565 NGN). I have carefully considered which you have submitted in support of your application. all documents You state that your sponsor will be paying towards your visit. However, I must take in to account your personal circumstances when assessing your application. You state that you intend on personally spending 3000000.00 NGN (£5,401.74) on your trip to the UK. I note that your proposed expenditure exceeds your monthly disposable income. This degree of expenditure appears disproportionate to your economic circumstances, leading me to doubt your intentions in seeking to visit the UK for the limited period and purpose stated. In light of all of the above, I am not satisfied that you intend to leave the United Kingdom or that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor. Your application is th erefore refused under paragraph V4.2 (a) and (c).

Your refusal was clear and simple. The problem was the amount to be spent on the trip. This is why it’s god to either just put £1 or £10 as how much you will be paying if you already have a sponsor. You can reapply again, but hope you have a relationship with the sponsor though? As that might be another issue after this one is corrected.

Lastly next time don’t put 5 months. You are a teacher and are expected to return to your job and not to run away. Find a way to correct these issues

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Observer25: 2:59pm On Feb 05, 2023
Quick question

What is the game plan for most people after the 2- year post study visa expires? Especially those going with dependents as they won't be able to marry anyone to adjust status. Or everyone else hoping to get their stay through work?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 3:59pm On Feb 05, 2023
Observer25:
Quick question

What is the game plan for most people after the 2- year post study visa expires? Especially those going with dependents as they won't be able to marry anyone to adjust status. Or everyone else hoping to get their stay through work?

Find a job that can give the CoS. That’s the reason for the 2 years post study timeframe. If you can’t secure a job within that period, I’m afraid you will be finding your way back to Nigeria alongside your dependents, unless they find a job themselves

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 3:59pm On Feb 05, 2023
Zannies:
Please guys....the main applicant mistakenly fill "no" to the question "is anyone depending on you financially including your dependant" in visa application form and the POF is in the main applicant account.can dependant still use the same POF .
Main applicant visa is out a week ago.

I think they still can
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 4:01pm On Feb 05, 2023
Adazeal:
Hi guys, please I need guidance. Don't want to make mistakes or omit something important.

I want to apply for my mum to visit and spend at least 5 months with my sister and I. What are the documents I need to begin with?

Background: We're both students and my sister just recently gave birth. My mum is a retiree.

Main question: Who is financing this trip?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Observer25: 5:06pm On Feb 05, 2023
Mrmoney90:


Find a job that can give the CoS. That’s the reason for the 2 years post study timeframe. If you can’t secure a job within that period, I’m afraid you will be finding your way back to Nigeria alongside your dependents, unless they find a job themselves

Thank you. UK deal looks good then. Its difficult to get companies to file for you in the case of US post graduate studies. Most have to use the marriage route.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 5:19pm On Feb 05, 2023
Adazeal:
Hi guys, please I need guidance. Don't want to make mistakes or omit something important.
I want to apply for my mum to visit and spend at least 5 months with my sister and I. What are the documents I need to begin with?
Background: We're both students and my sister just recently gave birth. My mum is a retiree.
pls avoid this 5 months duration on her application form
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 6:59pm On Feb 05, 2023
Observer25:


Thank you. UK deal looks good then. Its difficult to get companies to file for you in the case of US post graduate studies. Most have to use the marriage route.

See, when it comes to immigration rules, I love America to death. With one visa you can achieve all your heart desires. For example, with tourist, you can get married and switch your visa type without getting to come back to Nigeria. You can even start school or work and switch your visa. The koko is just to pass their interview. They Don’t care if you are popular o, if you fail their interview, straight refusal. I met this Yoruba actor, Alesh at the U.S embassy. He came to Nigeria and overstayed and his green card expired, them no gree hear him story o. They asked him what he was doing in Nigeria for his green card to expire. Regardless, U.S is lighter with the rules once you are able to pass the interview.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Zannies: 7:12pm On Feb 05, 2023
Mrmoney90:


I think they still can
......pls are u saying we can go ahead with it.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by lizabeet(f): 7:45pm On Feb 05, 2023
Can I visit the UK to see a family? And how can I go about it?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Adazeal: 7:59pm On Feb 05, 2023
Mrmoney90:


Main question: Who is financing this trip?

Thank you. She can finance her trip and we can do that as well but considering we both are students, I don't know if it'd be ok to state we'll be the ones to finance the trip.

This is the major area I really need guidance.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Adazeal: 8:02pm On Feb 05, 2023
giselle237:
pls avoid this 5 months duration on her application form
Thank you giselle237. I won't state that in her application form, I'm only providing y'all with all the necessary information so as to get adequate guidance on how to go about it.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 9:35pm On Feb 05, 2023
Zannies:
......pls are u saying we can go ahead with it.

Yes. But if you too concerned, the main applicant can write a letter indicating that.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 9:39pm On Feb 05, 2023
Adazeal:


Thank you. She can finance her trip and we can do that as well but considering we both are students, I don't know if it'd be ok to state we'll be the ones to finance the trip.

This is the major area I really need guidance.

If she is financially capable to finance her trip, then you guys do not need to say you’re sponsoring so as to avoid providing too much documentation. As long as her bank account is in perfect condition, then she has no worries. If your dad is still alive, then he is a proof of ties to her that will ensure her return. She just has to include photos.

Should you guys insist on sponsoring you can do that and explain why. You can split the cost amongst you three, it wouldn’t be a bad idea..
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Nikkyberry027(f): 11:48pm On Feb 05, 2023
Hello house, please i need enlightenment on this issue

I'm a silent reader on this thread. My son(almost 18) applied for a euss family permit with the help of his dad and was granted last month.
but this is my dilemmas:
1. His father who is an eu citizen and i are no longer together, he left us while my son was still 9 and haven't looked back since, so he's settled there another family, but shockingly he came to nigeria early last year, and said he'll like to take our son with him over to stay with him, after series of argument, and with the condition that my son will stay with his sister in lagos for the whole processing time(but at the time he didn't know i won't follow that).i decided to accept for the best interest of my son and as i have a sister who is willing to look after him over there incase there's any problem, but shortly after the visa came in, he got to know that my son was staying with me all this while in abuja that I only took him to Lagos whenever he has anything to do there concerning the process(imagine something that came be done here in Abuja without this much stress) and then he took the matter up so seriously and said he has nothing to do for the boy again and all sort, even commanded that his sister in lagos seize the passport fortunately i already have it with me. Tho i got a hint that his wife over there knows about the whole process maybe that's why he's behaving that way, I don't know.
2. Now he threatens that he can destroy the visa, and my son will not be able to go without his consent, or do anything there and i already booked a ticket for next month for my son, planning my sister will receive him. as i do not want to ruin the boy excitment and and I believe it is what is best for him because i'dl really like him to further his education over there.
3 So please house i want to ask, is it true he can destroy the visa or my son can't go without him or his consent? are his threat real? because if it is i should probably just end it here, because i'm already tired an confused.
please i need your advice.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Ashirioluwa: 12:04am On Feb 06, 2023
Kenancy:
Please this the refusal letter I got. I mistakenly typed that 3000000 in that part that says how you personally intend to spend. But I'd the sponsor that is sponsoring me.
What can I reapply or wait for some time. This

You are going on vacation to visit a relative for 5 months. This alone is an automatic disqualification.

The red flags in your application are so glaring that I don’t think anyone will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Don't rush to reapply because, for real, you don't have anything that will make you want to come back to Nigeria if you enter the UK.

Make sure you're able to tackle all these red flags in your refusal letter before you reapply.

- Your salary
- The trip expenses
- The 5 months vacation period
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Adazeal: 3:02am On Feb 06, 2023
Mrmoney90:


If she is financially capable to finance her trip, then you guys do not need to say you’re sponsoring so as to avoid providing too much documentation. As long as her bank account is in perfect condition, then she has no worries. If your dad is still alive, then he is a proof of ties to her that will ensure her return. She just has to include photos.

Should you guys insist on sponsoring you can do that and explain why. You can split the cost amongst you three, it wouldn’t be a bad idea..

Thank you so much Mrmoney90
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 6:13am On Feb 06, 2023
Nikkyberry027:
Hello house, please i need enlightenment on this issue

I'm a silent reader on this thread. My son(almost 18) applied for a euss family permit with the help of his dad and was granted last month.
but this is my dilemmas:
1. His father who is an eu citizen and i are no longer together, he left us while my son was still 9 and haven't looked back since, so he's settled there another family, but shockingly he came to nigeria early last year, and said he'll like to take our son with him over to stay with him, after series of argument, and with the condition that my son will stay with his sister in lagos for the whole processing time(but at the time he didn't know i won't follow that).i decided to accept for the best interest of my son and as i have a sister who is willing to look after him over there incase there's any problem, but shortly after the visa came in, he got to know that my son was staying with me all this while in abuja that I only took him to Lagos whenever he has anything to do there concerning the process(imagine something that came be done here in Abuja without this much stress) and then he took the matter up so seriously and said he has nothing to do for the boy again and all sort, even commanded that his sister in lagos seize the passport fortunately i already have it with me. Tho i got a hint that his wife over there knows about the whole process maybe that's why he's behaving that way, I don't know.
2. Now he threatens that he can destroy the visa, and my son will not be able to go without his consent, or do anything there and i already booked a ticket for next month for my son, planning my sister will receive him. as i do not want to ruin the boy excitment and and I believe it is what is best for him because i'dl really like him to further his education over there.
3 So please house i want to ask, is it true he can destroy the visa or my son can't go without him or his consent? are his threat real? because if it is i should probably just end it here, because i'm already tired an confused.
please i need your advice.

Your son is an EU citizen by origin, so you have nothing to fear. What really do you think he can do at this point? Deny the boy? That’s not possible because there is every proof the boy is his son. He is just making empty threats. Tell him if he does anything you will write to the home office with proof that the boy is his son and that he is just trying to sabotage his life because of his hatred towards you the mother. Now mind you, I’m not taking sides with you on this because I know you women do somethings sometimes. He can’t do anything. If he does, write to the UK home office. The most he can do is to not help the boy when he gets to the UK
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Newsolutions: 6:44am On Feb 06, 2023
Your son is almost 18. At 18 he is an adult and his father cannot stop him. However he(son) needs guidance and soft landing in Obodo Oyibo. So please use Good words to follow his father. Apologise to him and promise to always do as his say. Not because of anything but to set your son in the right direction and under authority in a foreign land. Good luck


quote author=Nikkyberry027 post=120669390]Hello house, please i need enlightenment on this issue

I'm a silent reader on this thread. My son(almost 18) applied for a euss family permit with the help of his dad and was granted last month.
but this is my dilemmas:
1. His father who is an eu citizen and i are no longer together, he left us while my son was still 9 and haven't looked back since, so he's settled there another family, but shockingly he came to nigeria early last year, and said he'll like to take our son with him over to stay with him, after series of argument, and with the condition that my son will stay with his sister in lagos for the whole processing time(but at the time he didn't know i won't follow that).i decided to accept for the best interest of my son and as i have a sister who is willing to look after him over there incase there's any problem, but shortly after the visa came in, he got to know that my son was staying with me all this while in abuja that I only took him to Lagos whenever he has anything to do there concerning the process(imagine something that came be done here in Abuja without this much stress) and then he took the matter up so seriously and said he has nothing to do for the boy again and all sort, even commanded that his sister in lagos seize the passport fortunately i already have it with me. Tho i got a hint that his wife over there knows about the whole process maybe that's why he's behaving that way, I don't know.
2. Now he threatens that he can destroy the visa, and my son will not be able to go without his consent, or do anything there and i already booked a ticket for next month for my son, planning my sister will receive him. as i do not want to ruin the boy excitment and and I believe it is what is best for him because i'dl really like him to further his education over there.
3 So please house i want to ask, is it true he can destroy the visa or my son can't go without him or his consent? are his threat real? because if it is i should probably just end it here, because i'm already tired an confused.
please i need your advice. [/quote]
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 7:56am On Feb 06, 2023
Kenancy:

The decision : I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 to V4.6 of Appendix.
Pls don't reapply now.
Ur salary is 25k, u are a teacher, ur trip will cost 3million naira and u are coming for 5 months. These are serious blunders and if u change this information so quickly and go to reapply, expect same results
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Nikkyberry027(f): 9:10am On Feb 06, 2023
Mrmoney90:


Your son is an EU citizen by origin, so you have nothing to fear. What really do you think he can do at this point? Deny the boy? That’s not possible because there is every proof the boy is his son. He is just making empty threats. Tell him if he does anything you will write to the home office with proof that the boy is his son and that he is just trying to sabotage his life because of his hatred towards you the mother. Now mind you, I’m not taking sides with you on this because I know you women do somethings sometimes. He can’t do anything. If he does, write to the UK home office. The most he can do is to not help the boy when he gets to the UK
Thank you so much, I'll proceed ticket and all, because I was initially scare that when he gets to point of entry and and he's been asked about accommodation, he'll be using my sister's own instead of his father own and that will be changes from what was stated in his application (as I do not know his address over there) anyways I'll keep begging maybe he'll be calm again.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Nikkyberry027(f): 9:13am On Feb 06, 2023
Newsolutions:
Your son is almost 18. At 18 he is an adult and his father cannot stop him. However he(son) needs guidance and soft landing in Obodo Oyibo. So please use Good words to follow his father. Apologise to him and promise to always do as his say. Not because of anything but to set your son in the right direction and under authority in a foreign land. Good luck


quote author=Nikkyberry027 post=120669390]Hello house, please i need enlightenment on this issue

I'm a silent reader on this thread. My son(almost 18) applied for a euss family permit with the help of his dad and was granted last month.
but this is my dilemmas:
1. His father who is an eu citizen and i are no longer together, he left us while my son was still 9 and haven't looked back since, so he's settled there another family, but shockingly he came to nigeria early last year, and said he'll like to take our son with him over to stay with him, after series of argument, and with the condition that my son will stay with his sister in lagos for the whole processing time(but at the time he didn't know i won't follow that).i decided to accept for the best interest of my son and as i have a sister who is willing to look after him over there incase there's any problem, but shortly after the visa came in, he got to know that my son was staying with me all this while in abuja that I only took him to Lagos whenever he has anything to do there concerning the process(imagine something that came be done here in Abuja without this much stress) and then he took the matter up so seriously and said he has nothing to do for the boy again and all sort, even commanded that his sister in lagos seize the passport fortunately i already have it with me. Tho i got a hint that his wife over there knows about the whole process maybe that's why he's behaving that way, I don't know.
2. Now he threatens that he can destroy the visa, and my son will not be able to go without his consent, or do anything there and i already booked a ticket for next month for my son, planning my sister will receive him. as i do not want to ruin the boy excitment and and I believe it is what is best for him because i'dl really like him to further his education over there.
3 So please house i want to ask, is it true he can destroy the visa or my son can't go without him or his consent? are his threat real? because if it is i should probably just end it here, because i'm already tired an confused.
please i need your advice.
Thank you, I'll keep apologizing to him because I do not want any hitch over there for our son.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Mrmoney90: 9:52am On Feb 06, 2023
Nikkyberry027:

Thank you so much, I'll proceed ticket and all, because I was initially scare that when he gets to point of entry and and he's been asked about accommodation, he'll be using my sister's own instead of his father own and that will be changes from what was stated in his application (as I do not know his address over there) anyways I'll keep begging maybe he'll be calm again.

Change of address is not an issue. But you can keep communicating with him to see if he will have a change of heart. But he can still travel regardless

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