Edeyoung:



No one would here you won't go far with your agenda because you can't even win us here
You accuse of a occultic reasoning which is very unreasonable of you

You can't even backup your claims with article or even old written record or substantial artefact yet you want to be heard you want us to hear you because you put oral story's together to draw stupid conclusions who does that at the age if not Ugbe

You're now revealing your agenda gradually
My question is why are you doing what you're doing, are you paid are you a yoruba man, did the benin or oba offend your people


If you're looking for the truth then you have to pay the price by dedicating your time to not just read or listen to oral history also paying for DNA testing if you have to, don't just come and say rubbish and accuse people of occultic reasoning, before you came to nairaland we have been here arguing about the authencity of of the Obaship stool and we have gotten enough insight....that our oba is a fully blooded edo

Because you saw scattered villages of yoruba settlement in benin like they are also not scattered settlement of other tribe like Itsekiri, urhobo and even ijaw around benin City you began to draw your fallacious reasoning of oromiyan from it

You assume ososomaye is a yoruba idol without no prove even fellow yorubas are not making such unfound claims only you, can't you see your desperation has made you shift away from reality

Please take yourself out of nairaland and fall back to YouTube when you're ready we will let you have your voice

AreaFada2
Samuk
Davidnazee

My brother I was replying his posts when I thought maybe AutoM and Samuk slightly misunderstood him. I like to give benefit of the doubt. My first post on this thread began with saying that we should not allow it to degenerate. So that Orhogbua/OP can get the information he seeks. Now I see that AutoM and Samuk didn't misunderstand him.

Over the years, I have heard various arguments about Edo history both online and real life. An Oboro man once told me that Benin moats were for defence against Oboro.

Ogie Oboro that Adesuwa snubbed and had to lure and murder her in the 18th century (over 500 years earlier) here. How can moats started by Oba Ewedo circa 1255 be due to Oboro/Ubuluku?

Ogie Oboro that was a village duke.

I know the agendas influenced by various neighbours.

My point is people should be brave enough to stand on the tribal side they are on. No speaking from both sides of the mouth. It is not in Benin character. I go kpai you means I go kpai you. I go help you means I go help you. Yes means yes, no means no.

AreaFada2:

My brother I was replying his posts when I thought maybe AutoM and Samuk perhaps slightly misunderstood him. I like to give benefit of the doubt. My first post on this thread began with saying that we should not allow it to degenerate. So that Orhogbua/OP can get the information he seeks. Now I see that AutoM and Samuk didn't misunderstand him. Over the years, I have heard various arguments about Edo history both online and real live. An Oboro man once told me that Benin moats were for defence against Oboro.

Ogie Oboro that Adesuwa snubbed and had to lure and murder her in the 18th century here. How can moats started by Oba Ewedo circa 1255 be due to Oboro/Ubuloku?

Ogio Oboro that was a village duke.

I know agendas influenced by various neighbours.

My point is people should be brave enough to stand on the tribal side they are on. No speaking from both sides of the mouth. It is not in Benin character. I go kpai you means I go kpai you. I go help you means I go help you. Yes means yes, no means no.

Boss thanks for pushing him to show his hand out of petty ego, I always knew he would slip up if he gets angry enough ! No man from Benin would say the kind of things he has posted on this thread, so I was 100% sure he wasn't from Benin area, this fact I clocked from the start!! So I have been watching him and waiting for him to slip up which he finally did by admitting to you he is 25% Esan which I believe is a vast understatement, that boy is 100% Esan and it all makes sense now, the way he started acting erratic like a crazed fellow the moment you dived into Onojie/Esan topic Ahhh I started getting a more clear picture and also the way he held to Ogiso era and conveniently threw Obaship to the Yorubas !

He should drop is YouTube link let's finsh him there


How dare the fool insult our monarchy and dash it way to people who steals history for living

UGBE634 you must spill your agenda

Edeyoung:
He should drop is YouTube link let's finsh him there


How dare the fool insult our monarchy and dash it way to people who steals history for living

UGBE634 you must spill your agenda

UGBE634 don run lol..

davidnazee:


UGBE634 don run lol..

E say we be occultic people because he nor fit convince us to hate our oba can you imagine some people we have as benins


I doubt if he is one of us

I want all of us to join is YouTube channel
If he is willing to drop the link

UGBE634 is not smart at all if he knows how far we have gone in edo history both the past the present he wouldn't have dare to convince us in some nonsense

He didn't even know about some migration that happened when the Oba of benin called the benins in yoruba land to come help rebuild benin

He is also not aware there is no yoruba idol or names in the palace

He now assume ososomaye is a yoruba idol

He knows nothing about cultural influence on neigbouring yoruba town on usen people

All he knows is an oral history is drunk relatives told him

AreaFada2:


Ogie Oboro that Adesuwa snubbed and had to lure and murder her in the 18th century (over 500 years earlier) here. How can moats started by Oba Ewedo circa 1255 be due to Oboro/Ubuluku?

Ogie Oboro that was a village duke.

.

I like to know more on this oboro topic, what is the story? It looks interesting

davidnazee:


UGBE634 don run lol..

Not everyone is as jobless as you , I might not respond immediately but I will eventually

AutomaticMotors:


Boss thanks for pushing him to show his hand out of petty ego, I always knew he would slip up if he gets angry enough ! No man from Benin would say the kind of things he has posted on this thread, so I was 100% sure he wasn't from Benin area, this fact I clocked from the start!! So I have been watching him and waiting for him to slip up which he finally did by admitting to you he is 25% Esan which I believe is a vast understatement, that boy is 100% Esan and it all makes sense now, the way he started acting erratic like a crazed fellow the moment you dived into Onojie/Esan topic Ahhh I started getting a more clear picture and also the way he held to Ogiso era and conveniently threw Obaship to the Yorubas !

My paternal grandma's Identity has never been hidden here, those were post I made on the 21 and 28 of November last year. But I have challenged your god to quote any comments of persons on nairaland who has challenged that Idea here let alone challenge it more than myself. I know I have been here for a short while, but Even yet I know my contributions to this thread as it pertains to such matters

I can say confidently and largely that the Idea that Binis migrated down to Bini has stopped on nairaland because of me.

The seven local government talk I have also never hesitated to challenge too, I found it was out of sheer Ignorance that made those persons come out to say those things. I challenged it with the evidences I have and to a large extent, it has also stopped here, among others.

Some of the fight I have fought for Bini are here,I have been one of if not the most radical Bini here for Bini course. And the fact that you oggled over my post like a goat that saw mango leaves is not in doubt.

If you are so certain I am 💯 Esan, you can swear with your life, and see yourself die like a fool

The fact that no Bini man will challenge the Oba on his Origin, is not true, they might not tell you because of how fanatical you are but they believe it for themselves. They will only tell you if they feel comfortable with you and know you are not a threat

AutomaticMotors:


I like to know more on this oboro topic, what is the story? It looks interesting

Adesuwa was the pretty daughter of Chief Ezomo Odia of Benin. He was one of the wealthiest men in the Empire. As a war general, he was often the first to administer newly acquired territory and control tributes coming to the palace. Also since he went on campaigns, he was often the closest to foreign territory rulers.

So one period in about 1752, Ogie Oboro visited Benin with tributes to the palace. It was his investiture as ruler/duke/Obi of Oboro/Ubuluku. He was hosted nicely by his old friend Ezomo. Now, Ezomo had already betrothed Adesua to Oba Akengbuda. Ogie Oboro couldn't take his eyes off pretty Adesua but he was warned that she will soon be Oba's bride.

Ogie Oboro devised a way to lure Adesuwa to Oboro, today in Delta. The babe at such a young age was already a very successful businesswoman. He bought goats from Adesuwa, possibly as part of his tributes. He then promised to send the money later from Oboro. He actually had no plan to pay. After Adesua waited and waited and sent messages to Oboro in vain, she went to Oboro to draw the debt. That was Ogie Oboro's plan all along.

At Oboro, the duke tried to force himself on Adesua and Adesua gave him a brain-resetting dirty slap. She told him that as a local champion, he was even below the lowest servant at Ezomo palace at Uzebu. E don tey wey Benin women dey wotoporious at dishing out fatality.

He murdered Adesua. May she continue to RIP.

Ezomo and Benin were livid. Of course, Oba demanded for his head. His head must have been among the skulls oyinbo found at alters in Benin palace in 1897.

There are many interesting figures in the battles to kill Ogie Oboro. Such as Emokpaogbe, who was son of Duke of Ugo. He had been at Oboro with an ailment and Ogio Oboro had been is physician and great mystic. He knew how to defeat the Obi. He didn't want to fight his healer but you can't refuse Oba's command. Ogie Oboro predicted years earlier that Emokpaogbe will one day come to fight him and Emokpaoge swore that he would never fight a man who healed him and taught him mysticism.

Emokpaogbe became Enogie Agboghidi of Ugo. He later fought against Benin but lost the war. He was Emokpagbe who drowned himself in what became Jamieson River to avoid capture by Benin troops led by Generals Ologbosere and Imaran of Benin.

NOTE: Several rulers today in Western Igboland bear the title "Agboghidi" or at least as part of their praise name as warrior.

AreaFada2:

My brother I was replying his posts when I thought maybe AutoM and Samuk slightly misunderstood him. I like to give benefit of the doubt. My first post on this thread began with saying that we should not allow it to degenerate. So that Orhogbua/OP can get the information he seeks. Now I see that AutoM and Samuk didn't misunderstand him.

Over the years, I have heard various arguments about Edo history both online and real life. An Oboro man once told me that Benin moats were for defence against Oboro.

Ogie Oboro that Adesuwa snubbed and had to lure and murder her in the 18th century (over 500 years earlier) here. How can moats started by Oba Ewedo circa 1255 be due to Oboro/Ubuluku?

Ogie Oboro that was a village duke.

I know the agendas influenced by various neighbours.

My point is people should be brave enough to stand on the tribal side they are on. No speaking from both sides of the mouth. It is not in Benin character. I go kpai you means I go kpai you. I go help you means I go help you. Yes means yes, no means no.

That's why I am saying put your word to test, quote any Bini man that has fought that Idea you accused me about more than myself here, infact the challenge I gave you is simple, screenshot one comment that is not mine here that has fought that Idea while I have over 20 in favour of the Binis.

Alas, just one you will not find.

Make i bend if I ever reply that Esan boy again for this thread!!

AreaFada2:


Adesuwa was the pretty daughter of Chief Ezomo Odia of Benin. He was one of the wealthiest men in the Empire. As a war general, he was often the first to administer newly acquired territory and control tributes coming to the palace. Also since he went on campaigns, he was often the closest to foreign territory rulers.

So one period in about 1752, Ogie Oboro visited Benin with tributes to the palace. It was his investiture as ruler/duke/Obi of Oboro/Ubuluku. He was hosted nicely by his old friend Ezomo. Now, Ezomo had already betrothed Adesua to Oba Akengbuda. Ogie Oboro couldn't take his eyes off pretty Adesua but he was warned that she will soon be Oba's bride.

Ogie Oboro devised a way to lure Adesuwa to Oboro, today in Delta. The babe at such a young age was already a very successful businesswoman. He bought goats from Adesuwa, possibly as part of his tributes. He then promised to send the money later from Oboro. He actually had no plan to pay. After Adesua waited and waited and sent messages to Oboro in vain, she went to Oboro to draw the debt. That was Ogie Oboro's plan all along.

At Oboro, the duke tried to force himself on Adesua and Adesua gave him a brain-resetting dirty slap. She told him that as a local champion, he was even below the lowest servant at Ezomo palace at Uzebu. E don tey wey Benin women dey wotoporious at dishing out fatality.

He murdered Adesua. May she continue to RIP.

Ezomo and Benin were livid. Of course, Oba demanded for his head. His head must have been among the skulls oyinbo found at alters in Benin palace in 1897.

There are many interesting figures in the battles to kill Ogie Oboro. Such as Emokpaogbe, who was son of Duke of Ugo. He had been at Oboro with an ailment and Ogio Oboro had been is physician and great mystic. He knew how to defeat the Obi. He didn't want to fight his healer but you can't refuse Oba's command. Ogie Oboro predicted years earlier that Emokpaogbe will one day come to fight him and Emokpaoge swore that he would never fight a man who healed him and taught him mysticism.

Emokpaogbe became Enogie Agboghidi of Ugo. He later fought against Benin but lost the war. He was Emokpagbe who drowned himself in what became Jamieson River to avoid capture by Benin troops led by Generals Ologbosere and Imaran of Benin.

NOTE: Several rulers today in Western Igboland bear the title "Agboghidi" or at least as part of their praise name as warrior.

Wow As I dey read am e be like Epic Hollywood movie! Thanks Boss, do you have an refferals where I can read up Edo tales such as this?

If e sure for that Esan Boy post you YouTube channel link!!!!

AreaFada2:



Ezomo and Benin were livid. Of course, Oba demanded for his head. His head must have been among the skulls oyinbo found at alters in Benin palace in 1897.

AutomaticMotors:
Make i bend if I ever reply that Esan boy again for this thread!!

I have been ignoring your life like a goat, it is just the little attention I gave you now, we are not mates, it is not about been here for 20 years, what have you done here to strengthen the Bini course, not that someone will go to your posts, out of 5000, 4500 are for insulting those that are no longer saying what you want to hear, even if the proofs are obvious. You are empty my brother, go seek rejuvenation and purpose

Esan boy I dey find you for YouTube like this just dey play !! Better delete that leprous channel B4 I reach there!! God help you if you used your face in those deceased videos !!

UGBE634:
I have been ignoring your life like a goat, it is just the little attention I gave you now, we are not mates, it is not about been here for 20 years, what have you done here to strengthen the Bini course, not that someone will go to your posts, out of 5000, 4500 are for insulting those that are no longer saying what you want to hear, even if the proofs are obvious. You are empty my brother, go seek rejuvenation and purpose

When i was a litte kid, i asked my grandmother (she was born in 1920s) if Oba/Benin Monarchy came from Yoruba, her reply was that is nonsense, Oba is Benin and has always been Benin. She doesn't even know the name Oranmiyan..
She did not just make up that answer the she gave me, she got it from stories her pwn grandmother told her..
So you see why I can never believe or agree to the nonsense talk about our Oba and our great monarchy coming from yoruba and non existence Ife.

davidnazee:


When i was a litte kid, i asked my grandmother (she was born in 1920s) if Oba/Benin Monarchy came from Yoruba, her reply was that is nonsense, Oba is Benin and has always been Benin. She doesn't even know the name Oranmiyan..
She did not just make up that answer the she gave me, she got it from stories her pwn grandmother told her..
So you see why I can never believe or agree to the nonsense talk about our Oba and our great monarchy coming from yoruba and non existence Ife.

you should have asked your grandma to interprete the word "Oba" for you.

Oba does not mean king, Oba was like a god who had and still has so much influence over the Bini people.

The Oba was everything to us, you hear names like Obarisiagbon- which means Oba is the centre of the world

Obarisiuwa-Oba is the centre of wealth

It Even reflect in greetings- Oba-avan- which means Oba's afternoon-good afternoon



Oba-Owie-Oba's morning-good morning

The understanding of the Oba was bigger than just a king to the Bini people, that's why he was being compared with almost everything, even though he was the king of Edo people, he was also like a god.

The fact is that as I am arguing, I tend to think more and see more rhema that draws me closer to the fact that the Oba is a non native

davidnazee:


When i was a litte kid, i asked my grandmother (she was born in 1920s) if Oba/Benin Monarchy came from Yoruba, her reply was that is nonsense, Oba is Benin and has always been Benin. She doesn't even know the name Oranmiyan..
She did not just make up that answer the she gave me, she got it from stories her pwn grandmother told her..
So you see why I can never believe or agree to the nonsense talk about our Oba and our great monarchy coming from yoruba and non existence Ife.

I also used to frequently visit my great grandmother in village during school holidays in the early to mid 1980s. She was born during the reign of Oba Ovonramwen. One of the reasons I love the village was the history of Benin the elders told us after dinners and before bedtimes. None of the elders or my great grandmother was aware of Oranmiyan, Ife and Oduduwa. I only became aware of these names when I read them in books.

By the time my great grandmother died in late 1980s, she witnessed the reigns of the following Obas, Ovonramwen, Eweka 1, Akenzua and Erediawa. My great grandmother who also met her grandparents who saw the reigns of Oba in the 1700s into 1800s got her history from them to pass on to us. Myself have also witnessed the reign of three oba, Akenzua, Erediawa and Ewuare 2 already. The passing down of history from generations to generations is one way the Benin history has passed down from the past.

samuk:


I also used to frequently visit my great grandmother in village during school holidays in the early to mid 1980s. She was born during the reign of Oba Ovonramwen. One of the reasons I love the village was the history of Benin the elders told us after dinners and before bedtimes. None of the elders or my great grandmother was aware of Oranmiyan, Ife and Oduduwa. I only became aware of these names when I read them in books.

By the time my great grandmother died in late 1980s, she witnessed the reigns of the following Obas, Ovonramwen, Eweka 1, Akenzua and Erediawa. My great grandmother who also met her grandparents who saw the reigns of Oba in the 1700s into 1800s got her history from them to pass on to us. Myself have also witnessed the reign of three oba, Akenzua, Erediawa and Ewuare 2 already. The passing down of history from generations to generations is one way the Benin history has passed down from the past.

My great grandma didn't even know anything called oromiyan or oduduwa when she told me the benin stories, the people who knew about such stories was the later generation who read it and knew it through school

UGBE634:
you should have asked your grandma to interprete the word "Oba" for you.

Oba does not mean king, Oba was like a god who had and still has so much influence over the Bini people.

The Oba was everything to us, you hear names like Obarisiagbon- which means Oba is the centre of the world

Obarisiuwa-Oba is the centre of wealth

It Even reflect in greetings- Oba-avan- which means Oba's afternoon-good afternoon





Oba-Owie-Oba's morning-good morning

The understanding of the Oba was bigger than just a king to the Bini people, that's why he was being compared with almost everything, even though he was the king of Edo people, he was also like a god.

The fact is that as I am arguing, I tend to think more and see more rhema that draws me closer to the fact that the Oba is a non native

In the Benin tradition oba is a God
Because he is a God and well honored does not mean he is not edo

Drop your YouTube link if you're so confident
Your followers will stick with you after I come visiting

Even the so called yoruba you're shifting the omo n'oba to also sees their monarch as a God
Not just the benins and the yorubas alone but every tribe that had kings in Nigeria precolonoal era

UGBE634:
you should have asked your grandma to interprete the word "Oba" for you.

Oba does not mean king, Oba was like a god who had and still has so much influence over the Bini people.

The Oba was everything to us, you hear names like Obarisiagbon- which means Oba is the centre of the world

Obarisiuwa-Oba is the centre of wealth

It Even reflect in greetings- Oba-avan- which means Oba's afternoon-good afternoon



Oba-Owie-Oba's morning-good morning

The understanding of the Oba was bigger than just a king to the Bini people, that's why he was being compared with almost everything, even though he was the king of Edo people, he was also like a god.

The fact is that as I am arguing, I tend to think more and see more rhema that draws me closer to the fact that the Oba is a non native

I already made it clear what my grandmother said about the word Oba, interpretation and origin..
Every Edo person will interprete the word Oba to mean King and O'ba to mean its shining (light).
You are just confused and stuck somewhere..

Also it is bavan, good afternoon or bowie, good morning.. there is nothing like obas morning or obas afternoon..
O'bavan means its a good afternoon and o'bowie, its a good morning.
Over thinking don cause confusion for your brain..

davidnazee:


I already made it clear what my grandmother said about the word Oba, interpretation and origin..
Every Edo person will interprete the word Oba to mean King and O'ba to mean its shining (light).
You are just confused and stuck somewhere..

Also it is bavan, good afternoon or bowie, good morning.. there is nothing like obas morning or obas afternoon..
O'bavan means its a good afternoon and o'bowie, its a good morning.
Over thinking don cause confusion for your brain..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXp5VS-wWeo

That's the etymology of those words, you might have learnt something new. I have known this for a while now.

The Oba was associated with everything good.
Hubbard was not joking when he said, "the Oba was not only the civil head of the state. He was also the religious base as well, he was in fact regarded as a divine person who in himself sum up the whole of the race." The Oba was and is still everything to the Binis

Owie morning

Oba-owie- Obowie- translates to Oba's morning - good morning
Oba-avan-Obavan- translates to Oba's afternoon- good afternoon

Oba-Ota-Obota-translates to Oba's evening- good evening

See where he reiterated that bavan,bowie are not the right way to pronounce it in time stamp 6:52

See the way he pronounced Obowie and Obavan in time stamp 6:08 and 6:23 respectively.

UGBE634:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXp5VS-wWeo

That's the etymology of those words, you might have learnt something new. I have known this for a while now.

The Oba was associated with everything good.
Hubbard was not joking when he said, "the Oba was not only the civil head of the state. He was also the religious base as well, he was in fact regarded as a divine person who in himself sum up the whole of the race." The Oba was and is still everything to the Binis

Owie morning

Oba-owie- Obowie- translates to Oba's morning - good morning
Oba-avan-Obavan- translates to Oba's afternoon- good afternoon

Oba-Ota-Obota-translates to Oba's evening- good evening

See where he reiterated that bavan,bowie are not the right way to pronounce it in time stamp 6:52

See the way he pronounced Obowie and Obavan in time stamp 6:08 and 6:23 respectively.

This is why i say you are a confused person.
The video you posted, he didn't say Obowie or obavan means oba's morning or oba's afternoon..
Guy you need to stop making a fool of yourself..

davidnazee:


This is why i say you are a confused person.
The video you posted, he didn't say Obowie or obavan means oba's morning or oba's afternoon..
Guy you need to stop making a fool of yourself..

I said that is what it means literally, your low IQ and comprehension level is working again, where in my statement did I say he said anything of that nature. What I said was I have heard that [b]etymology before[/b]A Bini lecturer told me while I was in school. What I seem to opine was his pronunciation matches up with what the lecturer told me

That's the etymology of those words, you might have learnt something new. I have known this for a while now.

The Oba was associated with everything good.
Hubbard was not joking when he said, "the Oba was not only the civil head of the state. He was also the religious base as well, he was in fact regarded as a divine person who in himself sum up the whole of the race." The Oba was and is still everything to the Binis

Owie morning

Oba-owie- Obowie- translates to Oba's morning - good morning
Oba-avan-Obavan- translates to Oba's afternoon- good afternoon

Oba-Ota-Obota-translates to Oba's evening- good evening

See where he reiterated that bavan,bowie are not the right way to pronounce it in time stamp 6:52

See the way he pronounced Obowie and Obavan in time stamp 6:08 and 6:23 respectively.

UGBE634:
I said that is what it means literally, your low IQ and comprehension level is working again, where in my statement did I say he said anything of that nature. What I said was I have heard that [b]etymology before[/b]A Bini lecturer told me while I was in school. What I seem to opine was his pronunciation matches up with what the lecturer told me

That's the etymology of those words, you might have learnt something new. I have known this for a while now.

The Oba was associated with everything good.
Hubbard was not joking when he said, "the Oba was not only the civil head of the state. He was also the religious base as well, he was in fact regarded as a divine person who in himself sum up the whole of the race." The Oba was and is still everything to the Binis

Owie morning

Oba-owie- Obowie- translates to Oba's morning - good morning
Oba-avan-Obavan- translates to Oba's afternoon- good afternoon

Oba-Ota-Obota-translates to Oba's evening- good evening

See where he reiterated that bavan,bowie are not the right way to pronounce it in time stamp 6:52

See the way he pronounced Obowie and Obavan in time stamp 6:08 and 6:23 respectively.

You are confusing yourself and going haywire..
The issue here is not how Binis regard their Oba, we know how we do, or how to pronounce obavan or Obowie we speak the language very well.
You claim that obavan and obowie means obas afternoon and obas morning which is wrong and your video does not say that.
It is time you stop making a fool of yourself and seek true knowledge from people that knows better..

davidnazee:


You are confusing yourself and going haywire..
The issue here is not how Binis regard their Oba, we know how we do, or how to pronounce obavan or Obowie we speak the language very well.
You claim that obavan and obowie means obas afternoon and obas morning which is wrong and your video does not say that.
It is time you stop making a fool of yourself and seek true knowledge from people that knows better..

I said that is what it means literally, your low IQ and comprehension level is working again, where in my statement did I say he said anything of that nature. What I said was I have heard that [b]etymology before[/b]A Bini lecturer told me while I was in school. What I seem to opine was his pronunciation matches up with what the lecturer told me

That's the etymology of those words, you might have learnt something new. I have known this for a while now.

The Oba was associated with everything good.
Hubbard was not joking when he said, "the Oba was not only the civil head of the state. He was also the religious base as well, he was in fact regarded as a divine person who in himself sum up the whole of the race." The Oba was and is still everything to the Binis

Owie morning

Oba-owie- Obowie- translates to Oba's morning - good morning
Oba-avan-Obavan- translates to Oba's afternoon- good afternoon

Oba-Ota-Obota-translates to Oba's evening- good evening

See where he reiterated that bavan,bowie are not the right way to pronounce it in time stamp 6:52

See the way he pronounced Obowie and Obavan in time stamp 6:08 and 6:23 respectively

I said it meant so literally but it can be translated to make sense as good morning,afternoon, or evening, because the Oba was associated with everything good. Go and see the stress in that pronunciation of Oba-avan in time stamp 6:23. Go and ask your elders, they might just interprete what I have told you here. Open your mind, free your Ignorance and learn from your obvious betters

I know it takes time for your brain to digest these things. I understand, your brain must have been torn open as a student in that your dead school , Ambrose Alli, you went to. So you are now deficient in brain matter

UGBE634:
I said that is what it means literally, your low IQ and comprehension level is working again, where in my statement did I say he said anything of that nature. What I said was I have heard that [b]etymology before[/b]A Bini lecturer told me while I was in school. What I seem to opine was his pronunciation matches up with what the lecturer told me

That's the etymology of those words, you might have learnt something new. I have known this for a while now.

The Oba was associated with everything good.
Hubbard was not joking when he said, "the Oba was not only the civil head of the state. He was also the religious base as well, he was in fact regarded as a divine person who in himself sum up the whole of the race." The Oba was and is still everything to the Binis

Owie morning

Oba-owie- Obowie- translates to Oba's morning - good morning
Oba-avan-Obavan- translates to Oba's afternoon- good afternoon

Oba-Ota-Obota-translates to Oba's evening- good evening

See where he reiterated that bavan,bowie are not the right way to pronounce it in time stamp 6:52

See the way he pronounced Obowie and Obavan in time stamp 6:08 and 6:23 respectively

I said it meant so literally but it can be translated to make sense as good morning,afternoon, or evening, because the Oba was associated with everything good. Go and see the stress in that pronunciation of Oba-avan in time stamp 6:23. Go and ask your elders, they might just interprete what I have told you here. Open your mind, free your Ignorance and learn from your obvious betters

I know it takes time for your brain to digest these things. I understand, your brain must have been torn open as a student in that your dead school , Ambrose Alli, you went to. So you are now deficient in brain matter

You are so pained lol.. no worry your pains just dey start lol..
You posted that video in your argument about obavan and Obowie meaning obas afternoon and obas morning but your video doesn't say any of that.
As for the proper pronunciations you are now hiding behind, you are also wrong.
Obowie and Bowie mean same thing. He never said Bowie is wrong only that you can greet ur age mates bowie and for an elderly person you use Obowie. It's a respect thing he was explaining. same goes for bavan vs obavan..
Once again, you remain a confused human being.

AutomaticMotors:


Wow As I dey read am e be like Epic Hollywood movie! Thanks Boss, do you have an refferals where I can read up Edo tales such as this?

There was a Nollywood movie on it many years back starring Olu Jacobs as Ezomo. Though not exactly as the film portrayed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FRcCgfA6Ww

Well, the stories were first moonlight stories by various elderly relatives as a kid. They were from different villages but remarkably consistently. Quite surprising how identical the stories were to ones I later saw written and read in books. Except Dr J U. Egharevba's account that deviated markedly in many parts from what I heard as a kid.

Sadly, many of the books are not in print. It appears oyinbo people and foreigners have the books more in their libraries.
Though more are being written, their distribution is poor. Everybody dey go church. Many take tradition or culture as pagan. Those non-Edo pastors are taking our people from culture. Of course many of the MoGs are from envious neighbours places. I am saying what I have seen. People are reading less too.

Why people believe that anybody has anything to tell us about Christianity that we were the first to have in what is now 9ja baffles me.

davidnazee:


You are so pained lol.. no worry your pains just dey start lol..
YIt's a respect thing he was explaining. same goes for bavan vs obavan..
Once again, you remain a confused human being.

davidnazee, you sef get time o. Somebody who believes that everybody else has low IQ, can he learn from even Einstein?

Let him be.

AreaFada2:


Dave, you sef get time o. Somebody who believes that everybody else has low IQ, can he learn from even Einstein?

Let him be.

The UGBE634 guy has self hate for the Oba one day he will spill it,


If Ugbe has been saying the truth since one of us here would have seen reason to side with him, but the guy keeps saying rubbish he thinks this is YouTube that's full of his family members and is village people listening to his crap