AlphaAlex:
lol she wanted to friend zone you forever

chikasnight:


I had this experience recently and I feel not really all ladies are wired like that.
Some girls who have interest in you might be willing to give you gf treatment and even sex but will freak out once they hear commitment.
Some others girls who have interest in you won’t give you any gf treatment, because they want to be sure where they stand in your life.

I think if you’re already getting the girlfriend treatment and she’s investing already there’s no need to toast her, until maybe she asked you herself.
Toasting should be to a means to get those treatments and get her invested if she’s not doing that already.
Either ways what matters is man should be ready to move on ASAP if it doesn’t work out

My views 🥂

Modified:
Also try to escalate things without asking her out, that’s how you’ll know if she’ll invest without commitment...

Regex:


That is how they understand life.

Pukkalolo:

I have always said this: the problem with most men is that they are pussy focused.

You have to break out of that because it's almost impossible to exhibit an attractive manly behavior and while being obsess with trying to Bleep the girl at the same time

Meedon:


The funny thing is that, trying to force their own understanding of life on other people.

Regex:


This life is all about where one finds peace. I have tried dating and I couldn't think of what I'm getting wrong. I stumbled upon ubunja's quote by mistake when I was looking for how to take revenge on not just my girlfriend, but women as a whole. I discovered that the path I wanted to tow will not lead me to peace. I discovered the things I was getting wrong in dating and how I could correct it. I tried it and it worked, God bless ubunja. I then rediscovered that dating women on long term is not worth it at all. I started going after things that will not wake one morning and decide it does not love me anymore.

2dice01:
What do you expect bro

We don't toast 21century women
it is waste of time

Same shít happen to me 8yrs ago
We were so fond of each other she literally beg me to come to her church 3days service even if it is a day
I couldn't go because of work
Then i invited her over to my place
She ask me what was on my mind that i wanted to tell her then mumu me 😄😁 started wooing her
Guess what she said

She: 2dice is not that i don't like you oo but anything a guy toast me all my feelings for the guy disappear but i will think about it and get back to you

That was the end the calls and text she use to bombard me with I was now doing the calling and texting but she was gone🤗

MzErica:


If you don't toast a girl, how are you then officially dating? I'm not talking fvck-and-go or horñy kinda shit.

iTroll:
Okay
There is this girl I have my eyes in rn
She dresses decent, no make up, none of this modern female bs (as far as I know).

I can tell this girl, at the very least, is interested in me. But my issue here is that she has a lot of guy friends. And when I say a lot, I mean a lot.

She has a very positive attitude and she also told me that she was once a tomboy, so that may explain how she's is so free around guys.

She said she was once a tomboy, and that was just a phase of hers, so now she's past that.

She has allowed me access to her phone a couple of times, but I've never allowed her mine .. and she complains about this constantly.

I'm not comfortable when the girl I'm trying to be with has a lot of guy friends tho.
I don't wanna lose objectivity and commit to a lost cause.

Plus she's the first child of her family.

What's the game plan here?

iTroll:
Okay
There is this girl I have my eyes in rn
She dresses decent, no make up, none of this modern female bs (as far as I know).

I can tell this girl, at the very least, is interested in me. But my issue here is that she has a lot of guy friends. And when I say a lot, I mean a lot.

She has a very positive attitude and she also told me that she was once a tomboy, so that may explain how she's is so free around guys.

She said she was once a tomboy, and that was just a phase of hers, so now she's past that.

She has allowed me access to her phone a couple of times, but I've never allowed her mine .. and she complains about this constantly.

I'm not comfortable when the girl I'm trying to be with has a lot of guy friends tho.
I don't wanna lose objectivity and commit to a lost cause.

Plus she's the first child of her family.

What's the game plan here?

MzErica:


If you don't toast a girl, how are you then officially dating? I'm not talking fvck-and-go or horñy kinda shit.

Kaycee54321:
Haven't had the time to go through the entire thread but with what I've seen in the last two pages...

The next generation of females are in deep shit if this Red pill thing keeps gaining traction...

Funny enough, although I don't like generalising, majority of stuff said here about the female emotional set-up is more often true than false...

There's a fine line between being aware of these and being a sadistic, manipulative psychopath...and knowing Nigerians, I'm not surprised if we "overdo" this one...

PrinxArthur1:
you start dating the day you first have sex with her, if u haven't fvcked her yet,.... u are still in friendzone

Pukkalolo:

I have always said this: the problem with most men is that they are pussy focused.

You have to break out of that because it's almost impossible to exhibit an attractive manly behavior and while being obsess with trying to Bleep the girl at the same time

chigomiced:
Don't love too soon.
Don't trust too fast.
Don't quite too early.
Don't expect too high.
Don't talk too much.

MzErica:


The deep kisses, intimate smooching doesn't mean shit without sex? Is that what are saying?

ubunja:
women love the chase too.

Remember what we have been saying.... A guy plays hard to get by closing his heart and being Emotionally Unavailable.

The moment you let a woman know you're Emotionally available for her, that you're have caught feelings for her, ITS LIKE HOW A GUY FEELS AFTER FINALLY SLEEPING WITH A GIRL HE'S BEEN PURSUING FOR SOME TIME.... There's no longer any challenge. Nothing to look forward to. No more wondering "he loves me, he loves me not". No more late night discussions with her friends trying to figure you out whether you love her or not. The fun is gone. The ambiguity of the chase is thrilling. But when things are confirmed beyond doubt after you assure a girl of your love, the fun part has ended.
That's why you always keep the chase alive. Tear that pucc up while being mild about how you feel about her. Tear that pucc up but be very slow on the romantic front. That's how you stay Emotionally Unavailable. The physical is there (sex) but the Emotional/bonding/connecting she has to work hard for.