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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:57pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: Who is talking of bench warmer here? Your comments just dey tire me. The discussion is Jorginho and Kante of 2020/21 UCL. Is any of them bench warmers? How come Kante who was suppose to be the carrier, played 323 mins below Jorginho? Was he carrying Jorginho from the treatment table? Or from the bench? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:57pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Even if we go by no of games played. How many matches did J5 actually play and how many did Kante? Now, divide their stats by the number of games played and see who comes out on top. Analysing stats with a blanket approach exposes one's limited understanding and interpretation of it. 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:59pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
airmark: Why are you lieing? Didn't Pulisic play that final? Remember Pulisic delivered UCL for us? Let's see his rating in this match? As you no gree rest 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:01pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: Kante even played more matches than J5 in the tournament- 13 v 12. I suspect Kante was so useful that the coach always removed him when the game was safe. That's why he had less minutes than J5. And despite having less minutes, he was still more useful. But you are welcome to believe that the player who has less impact per match and per 90 mins is more important and not a carry along. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:01pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: Oga check your screenshot very well or you go and rest First you say UCL is a 14 game tournament. Now this 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:03pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: Did I tell you Jorginho played more matches? Lol. Pulisic will tell you he played home and away against Atletico Madrid. 2 matches. What you may not know is that he played just 13 mins and 3mins in both legs. 2 matches, 16 mins. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:08pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: timbros: Are you kidding me? So, you don't understand that it customarily takes a team about 14 games to get to UCL final - 13 for teams competing from the group stage and at least 15 for teams who go through playoffs? Is that not in reference to the number of games played in a UCL campaign? Don't tell me you don't understand that. I want to believe you're capable of processing abstract concepts. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:08pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
See Pickford positioning for the Salah goal. Lol
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:10pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: So Kante also played 16 minutes per match abi? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 10:11pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 10:13pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:14pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: You keep contradicting yourself. Notice that I specifically mentioned 14. The final is a one legged affair so your number of matches must be odd not even. Is that too hard to decipher? All other stages are home and away till the final which is one match. How can you play 14 matches in a UCL season? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:16pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: That illustration is to show you that matches played is different from minutes played. Minutes played will give you a clearer picture of how much the player is involved in the tournament. Kante played a match more but 323mins less to what Jorginho played. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:20pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: LoL. You don see bone wey you go pick. About 14 games is not the same as 14 games. But 14 is the average of 15 and 13, which is the number of UCL games a team joining from (1) the last round of the playoffs and (2) the group stage would play to get to the final. Some teams will play more than 14 games to get to the UCL final. You don't know how to interpret large data. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:22pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: Nope. Minutes played per 90 gives you a better perspective - considering that both players played a similar amount of minutes. If you rely on raw data alone, your deductions will be deceptive and wrong. And a difference of 323 mins is not massive when the total available number of minutes to be played is 1170 mins (minus extra times and added minutes). . |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:24pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: Na wao. How many matches did Chelsea play in 2021 UCL final? How many matches did Man City play? I don tire abeg. Which one be average again for number of matches a team play in her UCL season. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:26pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: Bros their amount of minutes aren't similar. You can't play 323 mins lesser in a 13 game season and claim to carry me. Below is what per 90 mins will do to you if you use it anyhow. Look at Kante vs RLC and tell me the better player based on per 90 mins. Lol 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:28pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: LoL. Go and research how many games teams like Ajax, and Arsenal (when they used to finish 4th) would play to get to UCL final. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:32pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:32pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: Now, you see things in games and not minutes again eh? That's why the per 90 metric is important. A difference of 323 mins is not massive when the total available number of minutes to be played is 1170 mins (minus extra times and added minutes). |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:33pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Ballzproblem2: He should win Liverpool at anfield When last did Everton win at anfield ? Lol You funny sha Make Sean dyche catch Chelsea first then you go know whatβs up |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:35pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: Refer to my last post. It's edited now. Kante vs RLC, who is better? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:37pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: Jorginho played 180+ mins in the Semis and 90+ final, but you couldn't tell us what he did in those matches. No wonder Jorginho was thrown out and now riding the bench in Arsenal. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:38pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
airmark: Can we see Pulisic rating in that match that you circled Jorginho's rating? I wan check something. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:51pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: Haba. You're not daft now. For one, The competitions you chose are different. Kante's was 2020/21 UCL. RLC's was 2021/22. How can you make that sort of comparison? Secondly, RLC played 358 mins in total that year. Chelsea got to the semi final, so they played 12 games, which is 1080 mins. That's 33% of the total minutes. In contrast, Kante played 61% of the minutes in 2020/2021. You want to compare someone who played 33% of the total minutes with someone who played 61%? In different seasons!? Haba na. It's better you compare RLC with that other player you mentioned. Pulisic or so. 16 minutes in 2 games. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:54pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
timbros: Since he didn't start the match, his rating is irrelevant Now tell us why Jorginho was the 2nd poorest Chelsea player among those that started that match? You have been avoiding this since, but now your site has exposed your Jorginho as a big flop in that final. Thunder will fire you the day you deny the fact that Kante carried your spineless DM to that Ucl title. 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:12pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:17pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
Leyqute: Thank you NTA. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JayKayMaybachz(m): 11:18pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 11:19pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 11:21pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:22pm On Feb 13, 2023 |
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