Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,209,773 members, 8,007,103 topics. Date: Tuesday, 19 November 2024 at 03:45 PM

Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 - European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) (17166) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 (11456982 Views)

Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London / Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe / Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (17163) (17164) (17165) (17166) (17167) (17168) (17169) ... (20172) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:57pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:


For a bench warmer like Jorginho at Arsenal who plays maybe 20 mins every matchday, 323 mins is like 16 matches. So, what are you talking about?

You calculate the difference between the two players in relation to the competition they're playing.

Jorginho: 1031mins, which is 88% of the 1170 mins Chelsea played tl get to UCL final.

Kante: 708- 61% of the whole minutes.

So, Kante played 61% of the games, which is about 70% of J5's total minutes.

How massive is that difference now? Per 90 stats count.


Who is talking of bench warmer here? Your comments just dey tire me.

The discussion is Jorginho and Kante of 2020/21 UCL. Is any of them bench warmers?

How come Kante who was suppose to be the carrier, played 323 mins below Jorginho? Was he carrying Jorginho from the treatment table? Or from the bench?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:57pm On Feb 13, 2023
Even if we go by no of games played. How many matches did J5 actually play and how many did Kante?

Now, divide their stats by the number of games played and see who comes out on top.

Analysing stats with a blanket approach exposes one's limited understanding and interpretation of it.

4 Likes 1 Share

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:59pm On Feb 13, 2023
airmark:


Look at your Jorginho and his poor rating by your site below, among all the Chelsea players. No wonder he has been thrown away to Arsenal. πŸ˜„

Why are you lieing? Didn't Pulisic play that final? grin grin grin grin grin Remember Pulisic delivered UCL for us? Let's see his rating in this match?

As you no gree rest grin grin grin

4 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:01pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Who is talking of bench warmer here? Your comments just dey tire me.

The discussion is Jorginho and Kante of 2020/21 UCL. Is any of them bench warmers?

How come Kante who was suppose to be the carrier, played 323 mins below Jorginho? Was he carrying Jorginho from the treatment table? Or from the bench?

Kante even played more matches than J5 in the tournament- 13 v 12.

I suspect Kante was so useful that the coach always removed him when the game was safe. That's why he had less minutes than J5.

And despite having less minutes, he was still more useful.

But you are welcome to believe that the player who has less impact per match and per 90 mins is more important and not a carry along.

3 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:01pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:
Even if we go by no of games played. How many matches did J5 actually play and how many did Kante?

Now, divide their stats by the number of games played and see who comes out on top.

Analysing stats with a blanket approach exposes one's limited understanding and interpretation of it.


Oga check your screenshot very well or you go and rest grin grin grin grin


First you say UCL is a 14 game tournament. Now this grin grin

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:03pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:


Kante even played more matches than J5 in the tournament- 13 v 12.

I suspect Kante was so useful that the coach always removed him when the game was safe. That's why he had less minutes than J5.

And despite having less minutes, he was still more useful. .a

But you are welcome to believe that the player who has less impact per match and per 90 mins is more important and not a carry along.

Did I tell you Jorginho played more matches? Lol.

Pulisic will tell you he played home and away against Atletico Madrid. 2 matches. What you may not know is that he played just 13 mins and 3mins in both legs.

2 matches, 16 mins.

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:08pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Oga check your screenshot very well or you go and rest grin grin grin grin


First you say UCL is a 14 game tournament. Now this grin grin

timbros:


Are we talking of Ajax or Chelsea here? Did Chelsea play 14 games to reach the final?

Are you kidding me?

So, you don't understand that it customarily takes a team about 14 games to get to UCL final - 13 for teams competing from the group stage and at least 15 for teams who go through playoffs?

Is that not in reference to the number of games played in a UCL campaign?

Don't tell me you don't understand that. I want to believe you're capable of processing abstract concepts.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:08pm On Feb 13, 2023
See Pickford positioning for the Salah goal. Lol

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:10pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Did I tell you Jorginho played more matches? Lol.

Pulisic will tell you he played home and away against Atletico Madrid. 2 matches. What you may not know is that he played just 13 mins and 3mins in both legs.

2 matches, 16 mins.

So Kante also played 16 minutes per match abi? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 10:11pm On Feb 13, 2023
gapko finally score πŸ˜ƒ
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 10:13pm On Feb 13, 2023
those praising Sean dyche where una dey? new manager bounce doesn't guarantee you success on the long run trust potterball he will bring you sweet football as time goes potterball is a slow burner he will come around
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:14pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:


Are you kidding me?

So, you don't understand that it customarily takes a team about 14 games to get to UCL final - 13 for teams competing from the group stage and at least 15 for teams who go through playoffs?

Is that not in reference to the number of games played in a UCL campaign?

Don't tell me you don't understand that. I want to believe you're capable of processing abstract concepts.

You keep contradicting yourself. Notice that I specifically mentioned 14.

The final is a one legged affair so your number of matches must be odd not even. Is that too hard to decipher? All other stages are home and away till the final which is one match. How can you play 14 matches in a UCL season?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:16pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:


So Kante also played 16 minutes per match abi? cheesy


That illustration is to show you that matches played is different from minutes played.

Minutes played will give you a clearer picture of how much the player is involved in the tournament.

Kante played a match more but 323mins less to what Jorginho played.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:20pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


You keep contradicting yourself. Notice that I specifically mentioned 14.

The final is a one legged affair so your number of matches must be odd not even. Is that too hard to decipher? All other stages are home and away till the final which is one match. How can you play 14 matches in a UCL season?

LoL.

You don see bone wey you go pick.

About 14 games is not the same as 14 games.

But 14 is the average of 15 and 13, which is the number of UCL games a team joining from (1) the last round of the playoffs and (2) the group stage would play to get to the final.

Some teams will play more than 14 games to get to the UCL final.

You don't know how to interpret large data.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:22pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


That illustration is to show you that matches played is different from minutes played.

Minutes played will give you a clearer picture of how much the player is involved in the tournament.

Kante played a match more but 323mins less to what Jorginho played.

Nope. Minutes played per 90 gives you a better perspective - considering that both players played a similar amount of minutes.

If you rely on raw data alone, your deductions will be deceptive and wrong.

And a difference of 323 mins is not massive when the total available number of minutes to be played is 1170 mins (minus extra times and added minutes). .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:24pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:


LoL.

You don see bone wey you go pick.

About 14 games is not the same as 14 games.

But 14 is the average of 15 and 13, which is the number of UCL games a team joining from (1) the last round of the playoffs and (2) the group stage would play to get to the final.

Some teams will play more than 14 games to get to the UCL final.

You don't know how to interpret large data.

Na wao.

How many matches did Chelsea play in 2021 UCL final? How many matches did Man City play?

I don tire abeg. Which one be average again for number of matches a team play in her UCL season.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:26pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:


Nope. Minutes played per 90 gives you a better perspective - considering that both players played a similar amount of minutes.

If you rely on raw data alone, your deductions will be deceptive and wrong.

Bros their amount of minutes aren't similar.

You can't play 323 mins lesser in a 13 game season and claim to carry me.

Below is what per 90 mins will do to you if you use it anyhow. Look at Kante vs RLC and tell me the better player based on per 90 mins. Lol

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:28pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Na wao.

How many matches did Chelsea play in 2021 UCL final? How many matches did Man City play?

I don tire abeg. Which one be average again for number of matches a team play in her UCL season.

LoL. Go and research how many games teams like Ajax, and Arsenal (when they used to finish 4th) would play to get to UCL final.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:32pm On Feb 13, 2023
Chelsea don enter where dem belong back cheesy cheesy cheesy

3 Likes 1 Share

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:32pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Bros their amount of minutes aren't similar.

You can't play 323 mins lesser in a 13 game season and claim to carry me.

Now, you see things in games and not minutes again eh? grin

That's why the per 90 metric is important.

A difference of 323 mins is not massive when the total available number of minutes to be played is 1170 mins (minus extra times and added minutes).
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:33pm On Feb 13, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
those praising Sean dyche where una dey? new manager bounce doesn't guarantee you success on the long run trust potterball he will bring you sweet football as time goes potterball is a slow burner he will come around

He should win Liverpool at anfield

When last did Everton win at anfield ? Lol

You funny sha

Make Sean dyche catch Chelsea first then you go know what’s up
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:35pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:


Now, you see things in games and not minutes again eh? grin

That's why the per 90 metric is important.

A difference of 323 mins is not massive when the total available number of minutes to be played is 1170 mins (minus extra times and added minutes).

Refer to my last post. It's edited now.

Kante vs RLC, who is better?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:37pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Why are you lieing? Didn't Pulisic play that final? grin grin grin grin grin Remember Pulisic delivered UCL for us? Let's see his rating in this match?

As you no gree rest grin grin grin

Jorginho played 180+ mins in the Semis and 90+ final, but you couldn't tell us what he did in those matches.

No wonder Jorginho was thrown out and now riding the bench in Arsenal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:38pm On Feb 13, 2023
airmark:


Jorginho played 180+ mins in the Semis and 90+ final, but you couldn't tell us what he did in those matches.

No wonder Jorginho was thrown out and now riding the bench in Arsenal.

Can we see Pulisic rating in that match that you circled Jorginho's rating? I wan check something.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:51pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Refer to my last post. It's edited now.

Kante vs RLC, who is better?

Haba. You're not daft now.


For one, The competitions you chose are different. Kante's was 2020/21 UCL. RLC's was 2021/22. How can you make that sort of comparison?

Secondly, RLC played 358 mins in total that year. Chelsea got to the semi final, so they played 12 games, which is 1080 mins. That's 33% of the total minutes.

In contrast, Kante played 61% of the minutes in 2020/2021.

You want to compare someone who played 33% of the total minutes with someone who played 61%? In different seasons!?

Haba na.

It's better you compare RLC with that other player you mentioned. Pulisic or so. 16 minutes in 2 games.

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:54pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Can we see Pulisic rating in that match that you circled Jorginho's rating? I wan check something.

Since he didn't start the match, his rating is irrelevant

Now tell us why Jorginho was the 2nd poorest Chelsea player among those that started that match? You have been avoiding this since, but now your site has exposed your Jorginho as a big flop in that final.

Thunder will fire you the day you deny the fact that Kante carried your spineless DM to that Ucl title.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:12pm On Feb 13, 2023
Back to nomba 10. grin

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:17pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:
Back to nomba 10. grin

Thank you NTA.

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JayKayMaybachz(m): 11:18pm On Feb 13, 2023
Chelsea is back to 10th o πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 11:19pm On Feb 13, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
those praising Sean dyche where una dey? new manager bounce doesn't guarantee you success on the long run trust potterball he will bring you sweet football as time goes potterball is a slow burner he will come around


Arhhh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 11:21pm On Feb 13, 2023
Sack tuchel

Spend 600m

Sign Everybody


And were still 10th

Draw specialists


It cannot be well with potter

7 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:22pm On Feb 13, 2023
lordfalcao:
he won man of the match,

He was not the best player in the UCL run.


Very simple

So who was?

You have never been bright

3 Likes 1 Share

(1) (2) (3) ... (17163) (17164) (17165) (17166) (17167) (17168) (17169) ... (20172) (Reply)

Viewing this topic: PendragonVII and 13 guest(s)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 53
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.