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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:24pm On Feb 13, 2023
Win 11 out of their next 16 matches, and Napoli are champions.

Any chance of bottling? I don't think so.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:28pm On Feb 13, 2023
Don’t use Google

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:31pm On Feb 13, 2023
timbros:


Wow! The almighty unreliable site! grin grin grin

Airmark. You are confused. Take a rest. grin grin grin

Do You wake up and play semi finals in UCL? Is Atletico and Porto small games?

What did he do in Atletico tie?

Stop adding Maggi

These are the two MOTM against Athleti

Porto is a small natch

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:32pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:
Even if we go by no of games played. How many matches did J5 actually play and how many did Kante?

Now, divide their stats by the number of games played and see who comes out on top.

Analysing stats with a blanket approach exposes one's limited understanding and interpretation of it.


Timbros is another Lordfalcao in disguise.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:34pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:
Don’t use Google

Without google. The Nigerian flag means it can either be Okocha or Kanu. So Bolton or Portmouth(not sure Kanu had gone to Portmouth then)

The goalkeepers flag is the giveaway. Jussi Jaskelainen

Greek flag Stellios, Welsh Gary Speed, Senegal Diouf, Jamaica Gardener, Kevin Davies

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:34pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:
Don’t use Google

This is Bolton

Top of my head I can name Davis, Okocha, Giannakopolous, Diouf, Nolan, Speed, Ricardo Gardner and Jasskelainen

The French CB name escapes me, old black dude, can't remember the Turkish CB or English RB

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:38pm On Feb 13, 2023
raumdeuter:


Without google. The Nigerian flag means it can either be Okocha or Kanu. So Bolton or Portmouth(not sure Kanu had gone to Portmouth then)

The goalkeepers flag is the giveaway. Jussi Jaselainen

Yeah. Apart from that, Arsenal has Henry up top so it can’t be Kanu.

My mind went to Aiyegbeni at some point but he was thr CF, not AM.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:38pm On Feb 13, 2023
Ibime:


This is Bolton

Top of my head I can name Davis, Okocha, Giannakopolous, Diouf, Nolan, Speed, Ricardo Gardner and Jasskelainen

The French CB name escapes me, old black dude, can't remember the Turkish CB or English RB

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:43pm On Feb 13, 2023
Leyqute:
.

Ah, Rahdi Jaidi, stable Tunisian defender

I thought it was Turkish flag

Would never remember Nicky Hunts name in a hundred years even if I rack my brain

Bruno Ngotty was a very good underrated defender. Defender that would be costing £50m now but couldn't smell French team. They were plenty like that those days like Sylvain Distin and co

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:19am On Feb 14, 2023
Ibime:


Ah, Rahdi Jaidi, stable Tunisian defender

I thought it was Turkish flag

Would never remember Nicky Hunts name in a hundred years even if I rack my brain

Bruno Ngotty was a very good underrated defender. Defender that would be costing £50m now but couldn't smell French team. They were plenty like that those days like Sylvain Distin and co
I think Distin did well for City and Everton, not sure exactly why but BadoShield reminds me of him somehow.
One of the few defenders that rarely pass the ball back but ironically made a mistake passing the ball back.
He had the fire in him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:27am On Feb 14, 2023
Leyqute:


Haba. You're not daft now.


For one, The competitions you chose are different. Kante's was 2020/21 UCL. RLC's was 2021/22. How can you make that sort of comparison?

Secondly, RLC played 358 mins in total that year. Chelsea got to the semi final, so they played 12 games, which is 1080 mins. That's 33% of the total minutes.

In contrast, Kante played 61% of the minutes in 2020/2021.

You want to compare someone who played 33% of the total minutes with someone who played 61%? In different seasons!?

Haba na.

It's better you compare RLC with that other player you mentioned. Pulisic or so. 16 minutes in 2 games.

That was a mistake on my part. I compared 2 different competitions.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 1:27am On Feb 14, 2023
andrewbaba44:


He should win Liverpool at anfield

When last did Everton win at anfield ? Lol

You funny sha

Make Sean dyche catch Chelsea first then you go know what’s up
nothing go happen lol
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 1:28am On Feb 14, 2023
looks like Liverpool counter attacking spirit is back,Nunez tried but still a poor finisher
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:31am On Feb 14, 2023
airmark:


Since he didn't start the match, his rating is irrelevant

Now tell us why Jorginho was the 2nd poorest Chelsea player among those that started that match? You have been avoiding this since, but now your site has exposed your Jorginho as a big flop in that final.

Thunder will fire you the day you deny the fact that Kante carried your spineless DM to that Ucl title.

Someone that delivered UCL for us, how can his rating be irrelevant? Airmark is your account hacked?

Is Jorginho among the players who delivered UCL for us? Why are you avoiding this since?

Do you wake up one morning and play UCL semi final and final? Why are you avoiding this since?

Is Atletico and Porto small games? Why are you avoiding this since?

The only thing my site exposed is the fat lie that Pulisic delivered UCL for us.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:51am On Feb 14, 2023
timbros:


Someone that delivered UCL for us, how can his rating be irrelevant? Airmark is your account hacked?

Is Jorginho among the players who delivered UCL for us? Why are you avoiding this since?

Do you wake up one morning and play UCL semi final and final? Why are you avoiding this since?

Is Atletico and Porto small games? Why are you avoiding this since?

The only thing my site exposed is the fat lie that Pulisic delivered UCL for us.

Pulisic helped out with a goal and assist against one of the 2 biggest opponents we faced in that tournament.

Now, tell us what Jorginho did extraordinarily in the Semifinal since it has been established by you and your reliable whoscored that he was poor in the final.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:53am On Feb 14, 2023
airmark:


Pulisic helped out with a goal and assist against one of the 2 biggest opponents we faced in that tournament.

Now, tell us what Jorginho did extraordinarily in the Semifinal since it has been established by you and your reliable whoscored that he was poor in the final.

You already said Pulisic rating is irrelevant. EoD.

Did Chelsea start UCL in semi final?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:54am On Feb 14, 2023
Ibime:


What did he do in Atletico tie?

Stop adding Maggi

These are the two MOTM against Athleti

Porto is a small natch

The only match we lost in that campaign, who won us?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 2:14am On Feb 14, 2023
Emaprince:
You are right bro..but then, can you look at all the left footed wingers that exist now and tell me if they are not more comfortable being inverted wingers?

Only Leroy sane falls into that category you explained.Im sure Leroy can't even perform too well on the right..which is why he remains on his best position(LW).

Ziyech is only good at crosses. And he can only execute that on the right. A ziyech that can't dribble on a one vs one is who you want to be on the LW?. A left footer on the LW should be good in dribbling and able to take RBs on the run. Ziyech lacks that.
I get your point bro, but while they may appear comfortable being inverted wingers, they could also be lethal when directly facing the net. They would not need to cut in (a-la Robben) but rather go full throttle running in-field since they are already on their favourite foot/side with extra space to manoeuvre around defenders.

Just cos managers, coaches are insisting on this to gain whatever extra edge they think is possible does not mean that it suits all players. I know this from experience.

Whether Ziyech has that or not is a different matter. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 2:20am On Feb 14, 2023
swiz123:


Bro, there is everything wrong in being an "old school" analyst in an evolving sport. Most of the time, their logic leaves modern analysts confused.

Two and these old school analysts are Popizaino and Ibime.

The former believes being fanciful with passes is enough to be make one a DM hence be suggested Pirlo can play DM in this Chelsea side facing demonic pressing week in week out.

The latter believes that a DM must be strong and fast first before having other qualities hence he hates any DM that doesn't have that attribute no matter their achievement in the modern game. Recently, he hid under financial reasons to suggest his preferred type of DM Amrabat ahead of Enzo.

My point is, take everything old schools say with a pinch of salt. With them, what is good or bad depends on whether they are vintage enough.
Nothing wrong with the old school given the aim of the game hasn't changed at all - Goals, goals, goals.
How you get those goals, getting advantage over your opponents and still making it entertaining na the koko.
Views will differs, people will get confused but each team must play to their strengths and what works for Team A may not necessarily work for Team Z.
Football is not mathematics.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:01am On Feb 14, 2023
swiz123:


Ibime, professor Hensben just described Rodri as a robust DM. We need a definition of robustness please.
Rodri is a robust DM, it’s not only fast and hard tackler that make a DM robust but his strength and shield when with the ball and not easily dispossessed by challenge. Jorginho is tactical but technically frail with the ball, in other words, his spirit is willing but body is weak. Rodri is tactically and technically strong with the ball so he can progress play with precision, even though he is not a hard tackler but has the body to make blocks as far as it’s not counter attack against his team that require chasing/running. Bousquet and Jorginho are same just that the former is slightly better with some trick and eagle eye, before side way passes, both are no no for me in my team. I actually like deep lying playmaker if he can progress or transition play from defense to attack like pirlo or Enzo(although he is a CM but can comfortably play regista) and also maintain temple of the game. Jorginho is neither this nor that, but to maintain tempo of the game and this is mostly needed when the team is leading 3 zero or when you have super attackers upfront to push opponent backward always like in the case of bousquet with Barca during the time of prime Messi and co. Jorg and Bousq are definition of carry along player. If you watch closely in the past and now, any time Barca concede their possessive structure to their opponent they will mostly lose that game, sometimes with wide margin. But watch Madrid, even if they are not totally in control of the game they will mostly still win because they have an actual CDM in Casemiro who is ready to fold his sleeve to make blocks and tackles in front of his defense. I’m not a fan of stat because it is deceiving and doesn’t tell the whole story so those guys posting Jorg vs Kante stat need to watch football more and do eye test to actually know who is making the team effective and thick.

Now what is the primary purpose of CDM in football? Why don’t we just have CM and then positioned defense? When the team is defending or being attacked CDM is expected to go anywhere the ball is to make tackle unlike the 4 man defense that have to remain in shape positionally, CDM is expected to lose home training during this time and go for any man with the ball. With this, he protect his 4 man defense from constant invasion and pressure.

Below is what we know CDM to be but pep disciple want us to accept the new type that usually expose his team in crucial games. There is a reason he has been unable to win ucl without Messi.


A CDM, or central defensive midfielder, is a midfielder that focuses on defense but moves forward to create scoring chances when needed. A CDM is mostly tasked with supporting the defensive efforts of the team. While not a true defender, they play a very defensive game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:36am On Feb 14, 2023
Bimffo:
Win 11 out of their next 16 matches, and Napoli are champions.

Any chance of bottling? I don't think so.

Naaaa

The gap is much ,and those Wareys don’t look like who will drop points despite the huge gap
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:40am On Feb 14, 2023
Leyqute:
Don’t use Google

Jay jay okocha
Raidi jaidi
Stelios
El hadji diouf
Ricardo gardner
Kelvin nolan
Jaskalani
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:42am On Feb 14, 2023
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Now did I forgot ngotti and Davies ?

Did Davies played for sunderland also ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:45am On Feb 14, 2023
FBS:

I think Distin did well for City and Everton, not sure exactly why but BadoShield reminds me of him somehow.
One of the few defenders that rarely pass the ball back but ironically made a mistake passing the ball back.
He had the fire in him.

A Player like Sylvian distin was never capped by the French team but Sylvester was capped grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 6:30am On Feb 14, 2023
Potter on how he took Ostersunds 3 divisions up to Europa League: "Mistakes, failures, losses will happen but we need to respond in a good way, learn from them & help the players enjoy their football. And then we had to slowly, slowly build an identity at the club."
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 6:34am On Feb 14, 2023
Malo Gusto was at Chelsea’s training ground today for further checks on his ongoing hamstring issue. Gusto has been in regular contact with Claude Makélélé, who works in the loan department for Chelsea. (
@Nathan_Gissing
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:25am On Feb 14, 2023
Ibime:


Ah, Rahdi Jaidi, stable Tunisian defender

I thought it was Turkish flag

Would never remember Nicky Hunts name in a hundred years even if I rack my brain

Bruno Ngotty was a very good underrated defender. Defender that would be costing £50m now but couldn't smell French team. They were plenty like that those days like Sylvain Distin and co

I guess he should've gotten more international caps but then coach Aime Jacquet had Frank Leboeuf, Desailly, and Thuram. Those 3 were beasts on their day.

Maybe he fell into a row with the coach or the FA.

But then his career trajectory was funny. He was playing for top teams in France (PSG and Lyon) before he joined Bolton.

Same as Okocha.

But Ronaldinho went to Barcelona instead where he blossomed.

Perplexing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:32am On Feb 14, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Now did I forgot ngotti and Davies ?

Did Davies played for sunderland also ?

LoL.

Apparently, Ngotti is forgettable. But most people remember Kevin Davies. And nope, he didn't play for Sunderland.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:33am On Feb 14, 2023
andrewbaba44:


A Player like Sylvian distin was never capped by the French team but Sylvester was capped grin

He was capped a few times. He just never played a competition for Les Bleus.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:40am On Feb 14, 2023
FBS:

Nothing wrong with the old school given the aim of the game hasn't changed at all - Goals, goals, goals.
How you get those goals, getting advantage over your opponents and still making it entertaining na the koko.
Views will differs, people will get confused but each team must play to their strengths and what works for Team A may not necessarily work for Team Z.
Football is not mathematics.

Agreed.

But shey you know that it's difficult for a right footed player to finish from the right side? And vice versa?

The only thing that will come easy for them is crossing. And crossing is ineffective if it isn't well timed and the header isn't good.

But as an inverted winger, you have more opportunities to score.

The best option is an inverted winger who can also cross the ball with their weaker foot. Robben, Nani, and even Ashley Young do this easily in their prime.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:42am On Feb 14, 2023
Leyqute:


He was capped a few times. He just never played a competition for Les Bleus.

Zero caps egbon
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:28am On Feb 14, 2023
timbros:


The only match we lost in that campaign, who won us?

Don't be silly, we put that tie to bed in the first leg. Porto is a small club that has never defeated us, and hasn't made UCL semi since 2004. Rest with your Porto agenda

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