Today we shall read directly from the bible.
Matthew 24
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Note, the rumours of wars is not yet the end time.

Verse 7
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
There is greater production and supply of food that at any time in history. There are less famines that any century in history.
Verse 11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Everyone would agree, this is happening. So let's look out for other signs.

Verse 14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
This is a difficult one. Though one form of Christianity is being preached in basically every country, there are still many countries where most citizens are not exposed to Christianity because of restrictions. Some may be taught in secret but most remain unexposed to Christianity.

Now over to you, which signs do you think have been fulfilled so far.

tctrills:
Today we shall read directly from the bible.
Matthew 24
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Note, the rumours of wars is not yet the end time.

Verse 7
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
There is greater production and supply of food that at any time in history. There are less famines that any century in history.
Verse 11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Everyone would agree, this is happening. So let's look out for other signs.

Verse 14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
This is a difficult one. Though one form of Christianity is being preached in basically every country, there are still many countries where are most citizens are not exposed to Christianity because of restrictions. Some may be taught in secret but most remain unexposed to Christianity.

Now over to you, which signs do you think have been fulfilled so far.

pls next time do not open a thread. WHAT DID YOU OPEN THIS THREAD FOR?

you are saying OVER TO YOU.. for who? do you think we have time?
today is valentine, many of us are at work


IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT THE LORD HAS LAID IN YOUR HEART, THEN SAY IT ELSE BE MUTE.

You drop verse.... then you say over to you, yet your topic says something YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DEFEND OR EXPLAIN.


Pls christians should have sense.... this is not a good way to communicate revelation or observation.

GO TO YOUTUBE, IF YOU REALLY ARE LOOKING FOR PROOF OF THE SIGNS OF THE END.

I wish you well but pls don't waste your time here if you would not teach or edify anyone

yrhuhfy113:


pls next time do not open a thread. WHAT DID YOU OPEN THIS THREAD FOR?

you are saying OVER TO YOU.. for who? do you think we have time?
today is valentine, many of us are at work


IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT THE LORD HAS LAID IN YOUR HEART, THEN SAY IT ELSE BE MUTE.

You drop verse.... then you say over to you, yet your topic says something YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DEFEND OR EXPLAIN.


Pls christians should have sense.... this is not a good way to communicate revelation or observation.

GO TO YOUTUBE, IF YOU REALLY ARE LOOKING FOR PROOF OF THE SIGNS OF THE END.

I wish you well but pls don't waste your time here if you would not teach or edify anyone

You claim you don't have time and yet you wrote a textbook. You are clearly not busy. Loool

tctrills:
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This is a difficult one. Though one form of Christianity is being preached in basically every country, there are still many countries where most citizens are not exposed to Christianity because of restrictions. Some may be taught in secret but most remain unexposed to Christianity.

Now over to you, which signs do you think have been fulfilled so far.

As I told you in your other thread which is still the same as this one, the end is here especially with the fulfillment of the prophecy of the hardness of buying and selling and whoredom.

Then secondly, there isn't any nation which has not heard about Christ Jesus and the Bible and they do not need to convert to prove they have heard.

All the prophecy Said was that they shall hear it did not say hear and convert.

So you deceive yourself to hope that the end is not near whereas, there are less than 3 more prophecies to be fulfilled now.

Dtruthspeaker:


As I told you in your other thread which is still the same as this one, the end is here especially with the fulfillment of the prophecy of the hardness of buying and selling and whoredom.

Then secondly, there isn't any nation which has not heard about Christ Jesus and the Bible and they do not need to convert to prove they have heard.

All the prophecy Said was that they shall hear it did not say hear and convert.

So you deceive yourself to hope that the end is not near whereas, there are less than 3 more prophecies to be fulfilled now.

First not all the prophecies have been fulfilled as clearly pointed.
Secondly even if missionary work is being carried out, it's still at a very small scale in many nations.
Less than 1% of Saudi Arabians have seen a bible. Same goes for North Korea.
So if that is your definition of the gospel being preached to all nations, I can't agree with you.

tctrills:

First not all the prophecies have been fulfilled as clearly pointed.
Secondly even if missionary work is being carried out, it's still at a very small scale in many nations.
Less than 1% of Saudi Arabians have seen a bible. Same goes for North Korea.
So if that is your definition of the gospel being preached to all nations, I
can't agree with you.

I know for a fact that Saudis have heard and your self deceit did not let you check to see that North Korea already had access to Christianity since 1794 and it is only recently in 2021 that they got cut off from the world.

So, you are just trying to fan your self deceit

Dtruthspeaker:


I know for a fact that Saudis have heard and your self deceit did not let you check to see that North Korea already had access to Christianity since 1794.

only became effectively cut off from the world in 2021 meaning before 2021, they already had access to the Bible and to Christianity

Oga ever Christian in 1774 north Korea is presently dead. For over 70 years, missionary work is not allowed there. Same goes for China. More than 80% of Chinese have never seen a bible.
Oga, did you say that North Korea ended religious freedom in 2021? Wow that is fake news.
Religious freedom ended in both China and North Korea in the 50s.
Even in India with a democracy, More than half the population have never seen a bible.

tctrills:

Oga ever Christian in 1774 north Korea is presently dead. For over 70 years, missionary work is not allowed there...

The word is after and not never. Even this year the next president can ban Christianity but Nigeria and Nigerians have already heard about Christ, so it is already done. So keep deceiving yourself

tctrills:
Today we shall read directly from the bible.
Matthew 24
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Note, the rumours of wars is not yet the end time.

Verse 7
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
There is greater production and supply of food that at any time in history. There are less famines that any century in history.
Verse 11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Everyone would agree, this is happening. So let's look out for other signs.

Verse 14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
This is a difficult one. Though one form of Christianity is being preached in basically every country, there are still many countries where most citizens are not exposed to Christianity because of restrictions. Some may be taught in secret but most remain unexposed to Christianity.

Now over to you, which signs do you think have been fulfilled so far.

The gospel OF THE KINGDOM is yet to be preached to all of mankind.

The abomination of desolation also spoken of in Matthew 24 and in the book of Daniel is yet to be fulfilled.

I’ve written about these here.
https://www.nairaland.com/7016514/jesus-not-return-until-these

Until these things happen, forget about second coming.

Dtruthspeaker:


The word is after and not never. Even this year the next president can ban Christianity but Nigeria and Nigerians have already heard about Christ, so it is already done. So keep deceiving yourself

You seen not to get it. The gospel of Jesus Christ has not been preached to at least a quarter of the human population so stop being funny.

Dtruthspeaker:


The word is after and not never. Even this year the next president can ban Christianity but Nigeria and Nigerians have already heard about Christ, so it is already done. So keep deceiving yourself

Oga please read Revelations 14.6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

The gospel would be available to everyone before the end comes. So just because North Korea had Christians in 1746 does not mean that people in North Korea have the gospel preached to them today. Same goes for the Muslim world and most of Asia in general.
The gospel will be preached to every:
Nation
Kindred
Tongue
and People.

tctrills:

Oga please read Revelations 14.6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Now you have changed post as you usually do when you do not have any thing to say, Enjoy your self deceit.

Dtruthspeaker:


Now you have changed post as you usually do when you do not have any thing to say, Enjoy your self deceit.

Oga, what is your problem.

tctrills:

Now over to you, which signs do you think have been fulfilled so far.

The last sign:

"And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come" Matthew 24:14

It remains just three countries that our brothers haven't started preaching, teaching and reporting back to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So apart from these three countries there's no other nations where Jehovah's Witnesses aren't reporting back to our headquarters their activities.

Just last week we were admonished to send whatever we could give to support our brothers and sisters in Turkey (Islamic nation) due to the earthquake killing people there.
Relief materials has been sent immediately to care for our brothers and sisters in Turkey and in surrounding nations our brothers and sisters has been called upon to house JWs who suffered loss in the ongoing earthquakes in Turkey.

So you will not be told when we finally reach the remaining three countries with the message of peace that's what none JWs are missing in the sacred secrets regarding things happening in this end time.

May you have PEACE!

tctrills:

Oga please read Revelations 14.6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

The gospel would be available to everyone before the end comes. So just because North Korea had Christians in 1746 does not mean that people in North Korea have the gospel preached to them today. Same goes for the Muslim world and most of Asia in general.
The gospel will be preached to every:
Nation
Kindred
Tongue
and People.

God bless you for this.

People don’t see how Revelation 14 v 6 is a fulfilment of the gospel of the kingdom preached to everyone as Matthew 24 v 14 indicates.

They just think it’s only humans that’ll do it.
The Angel that bears the eternal gospel will preach and every human being will hear it. Even if they’re living under a rock and have never been in contact with civilisation.

Anyways, we all have our roles to play in spreading the gospel OF THE KINGDOM. Let’s do our bit, and God will take care of the rest.

OkCornel:

God bless you for this.
People don’t see how Revelation 14 v 6 is a fulfilment of the gospel of the kingdom preached to everyone as Matthew 24 indicates.

Revelations 14:6 is actually the fulfilment of Matthew 24:14 but one thing most people don't know is that the 144,000 has been sealed before the gospel could reach all other nations.
That's why Jesus said the 144,000 will not be selected from all the recognized countries of the world because the persecution of JWs will not allow them preach in time in many countries while the sealing of the 144,000 is ongoing {Matthew 10:23} but people who are related to them by tongue and language will be part of those being sealed. For instance Ukraine and Russia speak almost the same language so if the good news couldn't rich one during the sealing of the 144,000 their family in the neighboring countries speaking their language will be part of those being sealed!

MaxInDHouse:


The last sign:

"And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come" Matthew 24:14

It remains just three countries that our brothers haven't started preaching, teaching and reporting back to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So apart from these three countries there's no other nations where Jehovah's Witnesses aren't reporting back to our headquarters their activities.

Just last week we were admonished to send whatever we could give to support our brothers and sisters in Turkey (Islamic nation) due to the earthquake killing people there.
Relief materials has been sent immediately to care for our brothers and sisters in Turkey and in surrounding nations our brothers and sisters has been called upon to house JWs who suffered loss in the ongoing earthquakes in Turkey.

So you will not be told when we finally reach the remaining three countries with the message of peace that's what none JWs are missing in the sacred secrets regarding things happening in this end time.

May you have PEACE!

Let's assume the JW are teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Now let me ask you a few questions.
What percentage of people in China, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and many other countries where Christianit preaching is not allowed have access to your preaching?

tctrills:

Let's assume the JW are teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Now let me ask you a few questions.
What percentage of people in China, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and many other countries where Christianit preaching is not allowed have access to your preaching?

My guy Jesus never emphasized on percentage rather he said:

Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man: they were eating, they were drinking, men were marrying, women were being given in marriage until that day when Noah entered into the ark, and the Flood came and destroyed them all. Luke 17:26-27

So if it's just a family of 8 persons in any of those countries as it occurred in the days of Noah from Jesus' viewpoint it is OK!

MaxInDHouse:


Revelations 14:6 is actually the fulfilment of Matthew 24:14 but one thing most people don't know is that the 144,000 has been sealed before the gospel could reach all other nations.
That's why Jesus said the 144,000 will not be selected from all the recognized countries of the world because the persecution of JWs will not allow them preach in time in many countries while the sealing of the 144,000 is ongoing {Matthew 10:23} but people who are related to them by tongue and language will be part of those being sealed. For instance Ukraine and Russia speak almost the same language so if the good news couldn't rich one during the sealing of the 144,000 their family in the neighboring countries speaking their language will be part of those being sealed!

I’m mulling over this…

MaxInDHouse:

My guy Jesus never emphasized on percentage rather he said:

Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man: they were eating, they were drinking, men were marrying, women were being given in marriage until that day when Noah entered into the ark, and the Flood came and destroyed them all. Luke 17:26-27

So if it's just a family of 8 persons in any of those countries as it occurred in the days of Noah from Jesus' viewpoint it is OK!

You mean that as long as 1 person has access to your preaching then the work is done?
Now let's read what Jesus Christ taught.

Mark 16:15-16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Oga, every creature must have access to the word of God.
Let's read another verse.
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

The gospel will be preached to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people.
So until everyone in every country can hear the gospel of Jesus Christ, the work is far from over.

tctrills:

You mean that as long as 1 person has access to your preaching then the work is done?
Now let's read what Jesus Christ taught.
Mark 16:15-16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Oga, every creature must have access to the word of God.
Let's read another verse.
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, The gospel will be preached to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people.
So until everyone in every country can hear the gospel of Jesus Christ, the work is far from over.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm what you need is a humble heart but i'll assume you only need clarification.

When God began dealing with the Egyptians and their gods what was the reason why God never killed Pharaoh (just one man) so that everyone in Egypt could become scared to let the Israelites go?

Well the true God wanted the news to reach all the nations where the Israelites are going to inherit so that when they hear that Israelites are coming they will have no option than to evacuate the premises.

What correlation has this got to do with the topic of discussion?

Throughout the earth today people have heard of TERRORIST GROUPS and the havoc they're causing in most lands but then the Russian ruler suddenly began treating a group as EXTREMISTS in his country and the news went throughout the world that this is the most peaceful group ever whose members will not lift up weapons even against their enemies!
WHY? Because they're practicing what Jesus of Nazareth the Prince of Peace commanded them! Matthew 5:43-48
Please my friend if anyone is like Rahab in any country on this planet do you think after hearing such News he or she will not like to know this group? Joshua 2:10-13
Well Jehovah asked His worshipers to destroy all the nations standing in their way not because they're all attacking the Israelites but because they didn't act on the News they heard just as that woman did.
So if anyone in any country has heard of JWs and our activities in other countries but failed to act on what he or she heard such a person is guilty already!

MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm what you need is a humble heart but i'll assume you only need clarification.

When God began dealing with the Egyptians and their gods what was the reason why God never killed Pharaoh (just one man) so that everyone in Egypt could become scared to let the Israelites go?

Well the true God wanted the news to reach all the nations where the Israelites are going to inherit so that when they hear that Israelites are coming they will have no option than to evacuate the premises.

What correlation has this got to do with the topic of discussion?

Throughout the earth today people have heard of TERRORIST GROUPS and the havoc they're causing in most lands but then the Russian ruler suddenly began treating a group as EXTREMISTS in his country and the new went throughout the world that this is the most peaceful group ever whose members will not lift up weapons even against their enemies!
WHY? Because they're practicing what Jesus of Nazareth the Prince of Peace commanded them! Matthew 5:43-48
Please my friend if anyone is like Rehab in any country on this planet do you think after hearing such News he or she will not like to know this group? Joshua 2:10-13
Well Jehovah asked His worshipers to destroy all the nations standing in their way not because they're all attacking the Israelites but because they didn't act on the News they heard just as that woman did.
So if anyone in any country has heard of JWs and our activities in other countries but failed to act on what he or she heard such a person is guilty already!

The point isn't to discuss your personal beliefs but to read and understand the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The scriptures state that the gospel will be preached to every creature. As of today, over a quarter of the world's population have never been engaged in any form of Christian preaching.

tctrills:

The point isn't to discuss your personal beliefs but to read and understand the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The scriptures state that the gospel will be preached to every creature. As of today, over a quarter of the world's population have never been engaged in any form of Christian preaching.

Well if you call practicing what Jesus taught in the Bible book of Matthew 5:43-48 personal beliefs of a global family of peace loving worshipers then i rest my case Sir!

MaxInDHouse:


Well if you call practicing what Jesus taught in the Bible book of Matthew 5:43-48 personal beliefs of a global family of peace loving worshipers then i rest my case Sir!

But you don't practice what Jesus Christ taught in Matthew 5:43-48 rather you practice your personal beliefs.

Jesus Christ taught that the gospel be preached to all the world but you are bringing up your opinion.

tctrills:

But you don't practice what Jesus Christ taught in Matthew 5:43-48 rather you practice your personal beliefs.

Jesus Christ taught that the gospel be preached to all the world but you are bringing up your opinion.

So a group that's infusing what Jesus taught @ Matthew 5:43-48 in the minds of their members globally isn't practicing what Jesus taught?
Please what do you think any group can do for the Prince of Peace? Isaiah 9:6

MaxInDHouse:


So a group that's infusing what Jesus taught @ Matthew 5:43-48 in the minds of their members globally isn't practicing what Jesus taught?
Please what do you think any group can do for the Prince of Peace? Isaiah 9:6

But you don't. You don't even understand the verse. I have asked and I still ask, how peaceful would you be if you find someone raping your wife?

tctrills:

But you don't. You don't even understand the verse. I have asked and I still ask, how peaceful would you be if you find someone raping your wife?

And i have answered you a million times that when Jesus drove away money changers in the temple he never solicited for mob action against them which could have led to a war.
So if just one person is doing what is wrong the whole society will condemn such act unlike when people support either sides to start killing innocent souls!

MaxInDHouse:

And i have answered you a million times that when Jesus drove away money changers in the temple he never solicited for mob action against them which could have led to a war.
So if just one person is doing what is wrong the whole society will condemn such act unlike when people support either sides to start killing innocent souls!

So stop misinterpretating the scriptures. The commandment in Matthew 5:43-48 was to individuals and not to a particular nation.
In Matthew 5:43-48 Jesus Christ did not say that you should attack your wife's rapist.

MaxInDHouse:

And i have answered you a million times that when Jesus drove away money changers in the temple he never solicited for mob action against them which could have led to a war.
So if just one person is doing what is wrong the whole society will condemn such act unlike when people support either sides to start killing innocent souls!

Jesus Christ was talking to individuals. He was talking about how we relate in our daily lives.
He says love your enemies so you should not hurt the man raping your wife. He was not talking to the entire nation but to you the individual.
Tell your wife to turn the other side for her rapist and not to resist evil.

39But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

If you do not understand that the commandments in these verses are personal you will continue to misinterpret

tctrills:
Today we shall read directly from the bible.
Matthew 24
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Note, the rumours of wars is not yet the end time.

Verse 7
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
There is greater production and supply of food that at any time in history. There are less famines that any century in history.
Verse 11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Everyone would agree, this is happening. So let's look out for other signs.

Verse 14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
This is a difficult one. Though one form of Christianity is being preached in basically every country, there are still many countries where most citizens are not exposed to Christianity because of restrictions. Some may be taught in secret but most remain unexposed to Christianity.

Now over to you, which signs do you think have been fulfilled so far.

Your great great grand children will still be opening this kind of thread in their own time if you don't put an end to this rubbish...

MaxInDHouse:


So a group that's infusing what Jesus taught @ Matthew 5:43-48 in the minds of their members globally isn't practicing what Jesus taught?
Please what do you think any group can do for the Prince of Peace? Isaiah 9:6

Matthew 5:43-48
Verse 46 and 47
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

Yet you are the only Church that stops showing love to it's formal members. Clearly you guys completely misunderstood the word.

I've heard you jàre!

tctrills:


Jesus Christ was talking to individuals. He was talking about how we relate in our daily lives.
He says love your enemies so you should not hurt the man raping your wife. He was not talking to the entire nation but to you the individual.
Tell your wife to turn the other side for her rapist and not to resist evil.

39But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

If you do not understand that the commandments in these verses are personal you will continue to misinterpret