nameo:


Throwing tantrums as expected as any badly behaved CHILD would.

The problem with you peeps is that cos this is a faceless forum you have no idea who you are communicating at times.

By the way, i have read the last 2 books you mentioned there years ago.

I was trying to nudge you away from your fickle-headed delusions so you can be properly guided.

I have asked you to chose any area of African history so some of us can properly school you (assuming you actually want to test and check that huge ignorance of yours)

If you claim to know African history, but have not read The Destruction of Black Civilization by Dr Chancellor Williams, the EPIC work known as the Black Man's Bible, then you do NOT know your history as an African, if indeed you are an African. The late Dr Williams spent 20 years CHARTING THE MIGRATORY PATHS of black Africans fleeing the north southwards in antiquity. He saw the ancient paths lined with skeletal remains of our forbears, which helped him chart their trajectories.



I also do NOT believe you have read 'The Religion of the Yorubas' by Olumide Lucas, where he CLEARLY shows Yoruba - Egypt connections, even finding evidence of HIEROGLYPHS in Yorubaland. He wrote that the Yorubas migrated from Egypt in antiquity.

Excerpts from a research article:

“In this chapter, we shall talk of a possible migration from ancient Egypt. Many traditions point to a fact that an alien group (Egyptians) immigrated to Yoruba land and mixed with the original population. Many oral traditions are replete with these stories.

The Awujale of Ijebu land has shown that the Ijebus are descended from ancient Nubia (a colony of Egypt). He was able to use the evidence of language, body, scarification, coronation rituals that are similar to Nubians’ etc, to show that the Ijebus are descendants of the Nubians.

What the present Awujale claimed for the Ijebus, can be authenticated all over Yoruba land. The Awujale even mentioned that the Itsekiri (an eastern Yoruba dialect) are speaking the original Ijebu language. Since the Nubians descended from the Egyptians, the Ijebu, and by extension, all Yoruba customs, derived from the Egyptian as well. Many traditional Yorubas have always claimed Egypt as their place of original abode, and that their monarchical tradition derives from the Egyptians.

Apostle Atigbiofor Atsuliaghan, a high priest of Umale-Okun, and a direct descendant of Orunmila, claimed that the Yorubas left Egypt as a result of a big war that engulfed the whole of Egypt. He said the Egyptian remnants settled in various places, two important places being Ode Itsekiri and Ile-Ife.

Chief O.N Rewane says “Oral tradition has it also that when the Yorubas came from South of Egypt they did not go straight to where they now occupy. They settled at Illushi, some at Asaba area – Ebu, Olukumi Ukwunzu while some settled at Ode-Itsekiri.” (O.N. Rewane Royalty Magazine A PICTORIAL SOUVENIR OF THE BURIAL AND CORONATION OF OLU OF WARRI, WARRI 1987). Since these oral traditions are passed on by very illiterate people, we can augment whatever is recorded with written sources.

Concerning the migration of some of the Yoruba ancestors from the east, Conton says: ”The Yoruba of Nigeria are believed by many modern historians to be descended from a people who were living on the banks of the Nile 2,000 years ago, and who were at the time in close contact with the Egyptians and the Jews.

Sometime before AD 600, if this belief is correct, these people must have left their fertile lands, for reasons which we cannot now discover and have joined in the ceaseless movement of tribes westwards and southwards across our continent. We can only guess at the many adventures they and their descendants must have had on their long journey and at the number of generations which passed before they arrived. All we can be certain about is that they were a Negro people and that one of the many princely states they founded on their arrival in West Africa…..was Ife”- Conton.

Although we agree with Conton that some of the Yoruban ancestors migrated from Egypt, we tend to toe the scientific line of Cheik Anta Diop, that the ancient Egyptians were pure Negroes. Aderibigbe, an indigenous scholar, also accepts that the Yorubas migrated from Egypt. He says: “The general trend of these theories, most of them based on Yoruba traditions, is that of a possible origin from “the east”.

Some scholars, impressed by the similarities between Yoruba and ancient Egyptian culture – religious observation, works of art, burial and other customs – speak of a possible migration of the ancestors of the Yoruba from the upper Nile (as early as 2000BC – 1000BC) as a result of some upheavals in ancient Egypt”. (AB ADERIBIGBE 1976). Unlike Conton, Aderibigbe was able to pinpoint a cause for the Yoruban migration – war.

Olumide Lucas did a lot of work to show similarities and identities between the ancient Egyptians and the Yoruban peoples. The date that Aderibigbe gave (2000BC – 1000BC) is much earlier than that given by Conton. Aderibigbe’s date corresponds to that of the Hyksos invasion of Egypt 2000-1500BC.

On the possible eastern origin of the Yorubas, Tariqh Sawandi says: “The Yoruba history begins with the migration of an east African population across the trans-African route leading from Mid-Nile river area to the Mid-Niger.

Archaeologists, according to M. Omoleya, inform us that the Nigerian region was inhabited more than forty thousand years ago, or as far back as 65,000BC. During this period, the Nok culture occupied the region. The Nok culture was visited by the “Yoruba people”, between 2000BC and 500BC.

This group of people was led, according to Yoruba historical accounts by king Oduduwa, who settled peacefully in the already established Ile-Ife, the sacred city of the indigenous Nok people. This time period is known as the Bronze Age, a time of high civilization of both of these groups.

According to Olumide J. Lucas, “the Yoruba, during antiquity, lived in ancient Egypt before migrating to the Atlantic coast”.

He uses as demonstration the similarity or identity of languages, religious beliefs, customs and names of persons, places and things. In addition, many ancient papyri discovered by archaeologists point at an Egyptian origin” (Tariqh Sawandi: ”Yorubic medicine: The Art of divine herbology).

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/137358-who-are-the-yoruba-people-part-3-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

Napata77:


If you claim to know African history, but have not read The Destruction of Black Civilization by Dr Chancellor Williams, the EPIC work known as the Black Man's Bible, then you do NOT know your history as an African, if indeed you are an African.

As you rightly said, this is a faceless forum, so you could well be a neo-nazi air head.



I also do NOT believe you have read the 'Religion of the Yorubas' by Olumide Lucas, where he CLEARLY shows Yoruba - Egypt connections, even finding evidence of HIEROGLYPHS in Yorubaland. He wrote that the Yorubas migrated from Egypt in antiquity.

Excerpts from a research article:

“In this chapter, we shall talk of a possible migration from ancient Egypt. Many traditions point to a fact that an alien group (Egyptians) immigrated to Yoruba land and mixed with the original population. Many oral traditions are replete with these stories.

The Awujale of Ijebu land has shown that the Ijebus are descended from ancient Nubia (a colony of Egypt). He was able to use the evidence of language, body, scarification, coronation rituals that are similar to Nubians’ etc, to show that the Ijebus are descendants of the Nubians.

What the present Awujale claimed for the Ijebus, can be authenticated all over Yoruba land. The Awujale even mentioned (2004) that the Itsekiri (an eastern Yoruba dialect) are speaking the original Ijebu language. Since the Nubians descended from the Egyptians, the Ijebu, and by extension, all Yoruba customs, derived from the Egyptian as well. Many traditional Yorubas have always claimed Egypt as their place of original abode, and that their monarchical tradition derives from the Egyptians.

Apostle Atigbiofor Atsuliaghan, a high priest of Umale-Okun, and a direct descendant of Orunmila, claimed that the Yorubas left Egypt as a result of a big war that engulfed the whole of Egypt. He said the Egyptian remnants settled in various places, two important places being Ode Itsekiri and Ile-Ife.

Chief O.N Rewane says “Oral tradition has it also that when the Yorubas came from South of Egypt they did not go straight to where they now occupy. They settled at Illushi, some at Asaba area – Ebu, Olukumi Ukwunzu while some settled at Ode-Itsekiri.” (O.N. Rewane Royalty Magazine A PICTORIAL SOUVENIR OF THE BURIAL AND CORONATION OF OLU OF WARRI, WARRI 1987). Since these oral traditions are passed on by very illiterate people, we can augment whatever is recorded with written sources.

Concerning the migration of some of the Yoruba ancestors from the east, Conton says: ”The Yoruba of Nigeria are believed by many modern historians to be descended from a people who were living on the banks of the Nile 2,000 years ago, and who were at the time in close contact with the Egyptians and the Jews.

Sometime before AD 600, if this belief is correct, these people must have left their fertile lands, for reasons which we cannot now discover and have joined in the ceaseless movement of tribes westwards and southwards across our continent. We can only guess at the many adventures they and their descendants must have had on their long journey and at the number of generations which passed before they arrived. All we can be certain about is that they were a Negro people and that one of the many princely states they founded on their arrival in West Africa…..was Ife”- Conton.

Although we agree with Conton that some of the Yoruban ancestors migrated from Egypt, we tend to toe the scientific line of Cheik Anta Diop, that the ancient Egyptians were pure Negroes. Aderibigbe, an indigenous scholar, also accepts that the Yorubas migrated from Egypt. He says: “The general trend of these theories, most of them based on Yoruba traditions, is that of a possible origin from “the east”.

Some scholars, impressed by the similarities between Yoruba and ancient Egyptian culture – religious observation, works of art, burial and other customs – speak of a possible migration of the ancestors of the Yoruba from the upper Nile (as early as 2000BC – 1000BC) as a result of some upheavals in ancient Egypt”. (AB ADERIBIGBE 1976). Unlike Conton, Aderibigbe was able to pinpoint a cause for the Yoruban migration – war.

Olumide Lucas did a lot of work to show similarities and identities between the ancient Egyptians and the Yoruban peoples. The date that Aderibigbe gave (2000BC – 1000BC) is much earlier than that given by Conton. Aderibigbe’s date corresponds to that of the Hyksos invasion of Egypt 2000-1500BC.

On the possible eastern origin of the Yorubas, Tariqh Sawandi says: “The Yoruba history begins with the migration of an east African population across the trans-African route leading from Mid-Nile river area to the Mid-Niger.

Archaeologists, according to M. Omoleya, inform us that the Nigerian region was inhabited more than forty thousand years ago, or as far back as 65,000BC. During this period, the Nok culture occupied the region. The Nok culture was visited by the “Yoruba people”, between 2000BC and 500BC.

This group of people was led, according to Yoruba historical accounts by king Oduduwa, who settled peacefully in the already established Ile-Ife, the sacred city of the indigenous Nok people. This time period is known as the Bronze Age, a time of high civilization of both of these groups.

According to Olumide J. Lucas, “the Yoruba, during antiquity, lived in ancient Egypt before migrating to the Atlantic coast”.

He uses as demonstration the similarity or identity of languages, religious beliefs, customs and names of persons, places and things. In addition, many ancient papyri discovered by archaeologists point at an Egyptian origin” (Tariqh Sawandi: ”Yorubic medicine: The Art of divine herbology).

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/137358-who-are-the-yoruba-people-part-3-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

Oh!! Jeez!!

Whixh part of African history do you want me to school you in

I see you are an Afrocentrist and the extreme, uncritical kind. Funny thing is that I agree with some of what you believe (those things we agree on would be those things that the current facts available points to).


On the Lucas book. I have read it and i do not agree with some stuffs there. There are some similarities between Yoruba(as with some other African civilizations like the Fon Kingdom for instance) but that similarity is due to a common SHARED origin in the then well-watered and later desiccating sahara) as well as later contacts with some kingdoms and societies in what later became the Sudan. I thought i stated that before. But to say that there was a demic migration of Yorubas from Ancient Egypt directly: such extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences. And there are none or very little now.

Napata77:


Wrong.

''The religious pantheon of the Igbos and the ancient Egyptians share many similar ancestors, many of them bearing identical names.

They shared the sun-god worship of Ra, Chukwu Ra; Egyptians were similarly fetishitic about circumcision, and menstrual periods like the Igbos. Similar hair styles, similar martial arts and self defense schools, similar social structures.

But for now, we will focus on some observed lingusitic similarities that exist between ancient Egyptian language and present day Igbo language, for many Egyptian words yet survive in the Igbo language today. This is a current topical area of research in linguistics and history.

A small list of Ancient Egyptian words which survive in the Igbo language are as follows:

EGYPTIAN | IGBO (Onitsha and Uburu dialects used) KAKA(God) | Ka (greater, superior)
Khu (to kill, death) | Nwu/Gbu (die/to kill)
Em (smell) | Imi/Emi (nose, associated with smell)
Bi (to become) | Bu (to become)
un (living being) | Ndu (life)
Feh (to go away) | Feh (to fly away)
Budo (dwelling place) | Obodo/ubudo (country, dwelling place)
Dudu (black image of Osiris) | Mmadu (person)
Un (living person) | Ulo/Uno (living area, house)
Beka (pray/confess) | Biko/Beko (to plead, please)
Aru (mouth) | Onu (mouth) & kooh/Kwue (to speak)
Dor (settlement) | Dor-Nor (sit down, settle)
Ra -Shu (light after darkness) | La -Shu (sleep)
Aru (rise) | Anu/Kulie (up, rise)
Wu (rise) | KWu-ni/Kunie (rise)
In- n (negation) nh-n (negation)
Ma (to know) | Ma, Ma-li (to know)
Se (to create) | Ke (to create) & Se (to draw)
Hoo (rejoice) | Goo, ta-Goo (dance, rejoice)
Omijener (deep water) | Ime-me (deep inside)
Nen (the primeval water mother) | Nem (mother)
Ro (talk) | Kwo (to talk)
Penka (divide) Panje (break it)
Ala (Land of) | Ala (Land of, ground, boundary)
Amu (children) | Umu (children)
Ani (ground land below) | Ani (ground land below)
Ka (higher) | Ka (greater, higher, stronger, above)
Pa (open) | Meghee (open)
Isi (leader) | Isi (leader, head (body part), female name as in igbo: “Isioma”)
Oni (AE City) | Oni-tsha (Igbo City)
Ikhenaten (name of a Pharaoh) | Ikh-em (Igbo name for a male representing high power)
Au-nu (Crocodile) | Anu/Anu-Ma-nu (animal, beast)
Miri (water) | Miri (water)
Nahasu (other Blacks) | Ahasi/Ani-hasi (Evening, night)
Ak (man) | Ok-a (man)
Ehn/Hen (yes, nod head) | Eh (yes, nod head)
Paa/Faa (fly) | Feeh/Faa (fly)
Utcha (dawn) | Uchi-chi/Utchi-chi(night)
MM (among) | Imme (inside, among)
W (they) | Uwe (they, them)''

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/igbos-of-nigeria-and-ancient-kemitians-of-kemit-egypt-oguejiofo-annu/

Wow! These ancient Egyptian words are proper Yoruba words. Like, 98% yoruboid.

nameo:


Oh!! Jeez!!

Whixh part of African history do you want me to school you in

I see you are an Afrocentrist and the extreme, uncritical kind. Funny thing is that I agree with some of what you believe (those things we agree on would be those things that the current facts available points to).


On the Lucas book. I have read it and i do not agree with some stuffs there. There are some similarities between Yoruba(as with some other African civilizations like the Fon Kingdom for instance) but that similarity is due to a common SHARED origin in the then well-watered and later desiccating sahara) as well as later contacts with some kingdoms and societies in what later became the Sudan. I thought i stated that before. But to say that there was a demic migration of Yorubas from Ancient Egypt directly: such extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences. And there are none or very little now.

Nobody will give you that evidence except the descendants of the people who migrated. And the descendants say they came from Egypt/the Nile Valley, and it is part of their oral tradition across West Africa, and most likely in written African accounts, as will be seen in the yet to be translated Timbuktu manuscripts.

What other ''evidence'' are you looking for?

If your father tells you what his father did, will you ask him to show you evidence?

Why would unconnected ethnic groups all say they migrated from the north if they didn't?

Are you waiting for some WHITE MAN PUBLICATION to say it?

NOT gonna happen, because they won't research it, and don't WANT to research it.

These are people who are still denying that Egypt was even black at all, so why would they chart your migratory paths?

So don't sit there saying ''oh there's no evidence for it'' when your own traditional historians, griots, priests, and monarchs have stated it over and over again.

RESPECT their utterances because they are not idiots. You hear?

Napata77:


Nobody will give you that evidence except the descendants of the people who migrated. And the descendants say they came from Egypt/the Nile Valley, and it is part of their oral tradition across West Africa, and most likely in written African accounts, as will be seen in the yet to be translated Timbuktu manuscripts.

What other ''evidence''are you looking for?

If your father tells you what his father did, will you ask him to show you evidence?

Why would ethnic groups all say they migrate from the north if they didn't?

Are you waiting for some WHITE MAN PUBLICATION to say it?

NOT gonna happen, because they won't research it, and don't WANT to research it.

These are people who are still denying that Egypt was black at all, so why would they chart your migratory paths?

So don't sit there saying ''oh there's no evidence for it'' when your own traditional historians, griots, priests, and monarchs have stated it over and over again.

RESPECT their utterances because they are not idiots. You hear?

Am sorry, but what people say(or are alleged to have said) especially if it in an oral tradition cannot be taken to be True except there are other Lines of Evidences(e.g Genetics, archaeology, comparative linguistics, comparative anthropology, geoclimatic etc) that also complement it.

And this has nothing to do with the "White" man or anything. It is scholarship

nameo:


Am sorry, but what people say(or are alleged to have said) especially if it in an oral tradition cannot be taken to be True except there are other Lines of Evidences (e.g Genetics, archaeology, comparative linguistics, comparative anthropology, geoclimatic etc) that also complement it.

And this has nothing to do with the "White" man or anything. It is scholarship

All of those highlighted HAVE been demonstrated. Your problem is you shut your eyes to them, and pretend they were not written. Even Olumide Lucas' work explored the anthropological dimension, while Diop showed genetic, archeological and linguistic evidence, right before the United Nations, with other scientists in attendance. Dr Williams actually charted the migratory paths in his book, Destruction of Black Civilization.

So the evidence IS there aplenty. YOUR PROBLEM is that you are waiting for the 'mainstream' white historian establishment to 'CONFIRM' it, and give it their 'stamp of approval'.

And you will wait forever, because they never will.

DeOTR:

Wow! These ancient Egyptian words are proper Yoruba words. Like, 98% yoruboid.

Absolutely. Here is a list of 101 words shared by Yoruba and the ancient Egyptian language.


LINGUISTIC SIMILARITIES

''Since Ferdinand de Saussure, the surest way to prove a cultural contact between peoples is to adduce linguistic evidence (Ferdinand de Saussure (1972) General HISTORY OF Africa).

One of the largest inhabitants of Egypt were Yoruboid, and it will be expected that a good percentage of their language will be yoruboid, too.''

See the table below.

EGYPT YORUBA

1. Wu (rise) Wu (rise)

2. Ausa (Osiris, father of the gods) Ausa (father)

3. Ere (python/ Serpent) Ere (Python / Serpent)

4. Horise (a great god) Orise (a great god)

5. Sen (group of worshippers) Sen ( to worship)

6. Ged (to chant) Igede (a chant)

7. Ta (sell / offer) Ta (sell/offer)

8. Sueg (a fool) Suegbe (a fool)

9. On ( living person) One ( living person)

10. Kum (a club) Kumo( a club)

11. Enru (fear / terrible) Eru (fear / terrible

12. Kun / qun (brave man) Ekun (title of a brave man)

13. Win (to be) Wino (to be)

14. Odonit (festival) Odon (festival)

15. Ma or mi (to breath) Mi. (to breathe)

16. Tebu (a town) Tebu (a town)

17. Adumu (a water god) Adumu (a water god)

18. Khu (to kill) Ku (die)

19. Rekha (knowledge} Larikha (knowledge)

20 Hika (evil) Ika (evil)

21 Mhebi (humble) Mebi, (humble to one's family)

22 Sata (perfect) Santan (perfect)

23 Unas (lake of fire) Una (fire)

24 Tan (complete) Tan (complete)

25 Beru (force of emotion) Beru (fear)

26 Em (smell) Emi (smell)

27 Pa (open) Pa (break open)

28 Bi (to become) Bi (to give birth, to become)

29 Hepi (a water god) Ipi (a water god)

30 Sami (water god) Sami (a water god)

31 Osiri (a water god) Oshiri (a water god)

32 Heqet Re (frog deity) Ekere (the frog)

33 Feh (to go away) Feh (to blow away)

34 Kot (build) Ko (build)

35 Kot (boat) Oko (boat)

36 Omi (water) Omi (water)

37 Ra (time) Ira (time)

38 Oni (title of Osiris) Oni (title of the king of Ife)

39 Budo (dwelling place) Budo (dwelling place)

40 Dudu (black image of Osiris) Dudu (black person)

41 Un (living person) Una (living person)

42 Ra (possess) Ra (possess/buy)

43 Beka (pray/confess) Be or ka (to pray or confess)

44 Po (many) Po (many/cheap)

45 Horuw (head) middle Egyptian Oruwo (head) (Ijebu)

46 Min (a god) Emin (spirit)

47 Ash (invocation) Ashe (invocation)

48 Aru (mouth) Arun (mouth ) Ilaje

49 Do (river) Odo (river)

50 Do (settlement) Udo (settlement)

51 Shekiri (water god) Shekiri (a water god)

52 Bu (a place) Bu (a place)

53 Khepara (beetle) Akpakara (beetle)

54 No (a water god) Eno (a water god)

55 Ra -Shu (light after darkness) Uran-shu (the light of the moon)

56 Run-ka (spirit name) Oruko (name)

57 Deb/dib to pierce Dibi (to pierce)

58 Maat (goddess of justice Mate (goddess of justice)

59 Aru (rise) Ru (rise up)

60 Fa (carry) Fa (pull)

61 Kaf (pluck) Ka (pluck)

62 Bu bi (evil place) Bubi (evil place)

63 In- n (negation In-n (negation)

64 Iset (a water god) Ise (a water god)

65 Shabu (watcher) Ashonbo (watcher)

66 Semati (door keeper) Sema (lock/shut the door)

67 Khenti amenti (big words of Osiris Yenti yenti (big, very big)

68 Ma (to know) Ma (to know)

69 Bebi (a son of osiris) Ube, a god

70 Tchatcha chief (they examined the death to see if they tricked) tsatsa (a game of tricks, gambling )

71 Ren (animal foot) Ren (to walk)

72 Ka (rest) Ka (rest/tired)

73 Mu (water) Mu (drink water)

74 Abi (against) Ubi (against / impediment)

75 Reti (to beseech) Retin (to listen)

76 Hir (praise) Yiri (praise)

77 Ta(spread out) Ta (spread out)

78 Kurud (round) Kurudu (round)

79 Ak (male) Ako (male)

80 Se (to create) Se (to create)

81 Hoo (rejoice) Yo (rejoice)

82 Kamwr (black) Kuru (extremely black)

83 Omitjener (deep water) Omijen (deep water)

84 Nen (the primeval water mother) Nene (mother)

85 Ta (land) Ita (land junction)

86 Horiwo (head) Oriwo (head)

87 Ro (talk) Ro (to think)

88 Kurubu (round) Kurubu (deep and round)

89 Penka (divide) Kpen (divide)

90 Ma-su (to mould) Ma or su (to mould)

91 Osa (time) Osa (time)

92 Osa (tide) Osa ( tide)

93 Fare (wrap) Fari (wrap)

94 Kom (complete) Kon (complete)

95 Edjo (cobra) Edjo (cobra)

96 Didi (red fruit) Diden (red)

97 Ba (soul) Oba (king) soul of a people

98 Ke (hill) Oke (hill)

99 Anubis (evil deity) Onubi (evil person)

100 Kan (one: Middle Egyptian) Okan (one)

101 Nam (water god) Inama (water god)

The words above are used to show that most Yoruban words are identical to the ancient Egyptian.

Napata77:


All of those highlighted HAVE been demonstrated. Your problem is you shut your eyes to them, and pretend they were not written. Even Olumide Lucas' work explored the anthropological dimension, while Diop showed genetic, archeological and linguistic evidence, right before the United Nations, with other scientists in attendance. Dr Williams actually charted the migratory paths in his book, Destruction of Black Civilization.

So the evidence IS there aplenty. YOUR PROBLEM is that you are waiting for the 'mainstream' white historian establishment to 'CONFIRM' it, and give it their 'stamp of approval'.

And you will wait forever, because they never will.

No, it has not been confirmed.

You may want to list what confirmed it.

By the way, you really do not know who you are talking to when you bring that nonsense of "waiting for tbe white establishment " to confirm stuffs. It is not a White or Black thing. It is just scholarship. Evidence and Lines of Evidence.

It is funny cos when i argue at foreign forums, some persons there call me an "Afrocentrist" but to you(who i assume is Nigerian) i am an Eurocentrist abi??

Funny people

nameo:


No, it has not been confirmed.

You're talking rubbish again.

You may want to list what confirmed it

What do you mean ''list what confirmed it''?

Read the damn books I listed. Do you expect CNN to announce it or what?

You even said there's no evidence in comparative linguistics.

What do you call these word similarities and cognates I've been posting?

Wetin dey do you, abi you no get sense?

Napata77:


Absolutely. Here is a list of 101 words shared by Yoruba and the ancient Egyptian language.


LINGUISTIC SIMILARITIES

''Since Ferdinand de Saussure, the surest way to prove a cultural contact between peoples is to adduce linguistic evidence (Ferdinand de Saussure (1972) General HISTORY OF Africa).

One of the largest inhabitants of Egypt were Yoruboid, and it will be expected that a good percentage of their language will be yoruboid, too.''

See the table below.

EGYPT YORUBA

1. Wu (rise) Wu (rise)

2. Ausa (Osiris, father of the gods) Ausa (father)

3. Ere (python/ Serpent) Ere (Python / Serpent)

4. Horise (a great god) Orise (a great god)

5. Sen (group of worshippers) Sen ( to worship)

6. Ged (to chant) Igede (a chant)

7. Ta (sell / offer) Ta (sell/offer)

8. Sueg (a fool) Suegbe (a fool)

9. On ( living person) One ( living person)

10. Kum (a club) Kumo( a club)

11. Enru (fear / terrible) Eru (fear / terrible

12. Kun / qun (brave man) Ekun (title of a brave man)

13. Win (to be) Wino (to be)

14. Odonit (festival) Odon (festival)

15. Ma or mi (to breath) Mi. (to breathe)

16. Tebu (a town) Tebu (a town)

17. Adumu (a water god) Adumu (a water god)

18. Khu (to kill) Ku (die)

19. Rekha (knowledge} Larikha (knowledge)

20 Hika (evil) Ika (evil)

21 Mhebi (humble) Mebi, (humble to one's family)

22 Sata (perfect) Santan (perfect)

23 Unas (lake of fire) Una (fire)

24 Tan (complete) Tan (complete)

25 Beru (force of emotion) Beru (fear)

26 Em (smell) Emi (smell)

27 Pa (open) Pa (break open)

28 Bi (to become) Bi (to give birth, to become)

29 Hepi (a water god) Ipi (a water god)

30 Sami (water god) Sami (a water god)

31 Osiri (a water god) Oshiri (a water god)

32 Heqet Re (frog deity) Ekere (the frog)

33 Feh (to go away) Feh (to blow away)

34 Kot (build) Ko (build)

35 Kot (boat) Oko (boat)

36 Omi (water) Omi (water)

37 Ra (time) Ira (time)

38 Oni (title of Osiris) Oni (title of the king of Ife)

39 Budo (dwelling place) Budo (dwelling place)

40 Dudu (black image of Osiris) Dudu (black person)

41 Un (living person) Una (living person)

42 Ra (possess) Ra (possess/buy)

43 Beka (pray/confess) Be or ka (to pray or confess)

44 Po (many) Po (many/cheap)

45 Horuw (head) middle Egyptian Oruwo (head) (Ijebu)

46 Min (a god) Emin (spirit)

47 Ash (invocation) Ashe (invocation)

48 Aru (mouth) Arun (mouth ) Ilaje

49 Do (river) Odo (river)

50 Do (settlement) Udo (settlement)

51 Shekiri (water god) Shekiri (a water god)

52 Bu (a place) Bu (a place)

53 Khepara (beetle) Akpakara (beetle)

54 No (a water god) Eno (a water god)

55 Ra -Shu (light after darkness) Uran-shu (the light of the moon)

56 Run-ka (spirit name) Oruko (name)

57 Deb/dib to pierce Dibi (to pierce)

58 Maat (goddess of justice Mate (goddess of justice)

59 Aru (rise) Ru (rise up)

60 Fa (carry) Fa (pull)

61 Kaf (pluck) Ka (pluck)

62 Bu bi (evil place) Bubi (evil place)

63 In- n (negation In-n (negation)

64 Iset (a water god) Ise (a water god)

65 Shabu (watcher) Ashonbo (watcher)

66 Semati (door keeper) Sema (lock/shut the door)

67 Khenti amenti (big words of Osiris Yenti yenti (big, very big)

68 Ma (to know) Ma (to know)

69 Bebi (a son of osiris) Ube, a god

70 Tchatcha chief (they examined the death to see if they tricked) tsatsa (a game of tricks, gambling )

71 Ren (animal foot) Ren (to walk)

72 Ka (rest) Ka (rest/tired)

73 Mu (water) Mu (drink water)

74 Abi (against) Ubi (against / impediment)

75 Reti (to beseech) Retin (to listen)

76 Hir (praise) Yiri (praise)

77 Ta(spread out) Ta (spread out)

78 Kurud (round) Kurudu (round)

79 Ak (male) Ako (male)

80 Se (to create) Se (to create)

81 Hoo (rejoice) Yo (rejoice)

82 Kamwr (black) Kuru (extremely black)

83 Omitjener (deep water) Omijen (deep water)

84 Nen (the primeval water mother) Nene (mother)

85 Ta (land) Ita (land junction)

86 Horiwo (head) Oriwo (head)

87 Ro (talk) Ro (to think)

88 Kurubu (round) Kurubu (deep and round)

89 Penka (divide) Kpen (divide)

90 Ma-su (to mould) Ma or su (to mould)

91 Osa (time) Osa (time)

92 Osa (tide) Osa ( tide)

93 Fare (wrap) Fari (wrap)

94 Kom (complete) Kon (complete)

95 Edjo (cobra) Edjo (cobra)

96 Didi (red fruit) Diden (red)

97 Ba (soul) Oba (king) soul of a people

98 Ke (hill) Oke (hill)

99 Anubis (evil deity) Onubi (evil person)

100 Kan (one: Middle Egyptian) Okan (one)

101 Nam (water god) Inama (water god)

The words above are used to show that most Yoruban words are identical to the ancient Egyptian.

The words have not changed much. This is an undeniable evidence that Yorubas migrated from Egypt.

DeOTR:

The words have not changed much. This is an undeniable evidence that Yorubas migrated from Egypt.

Absolutely. Even the name of the Yoruba pantheons/religion is Orisha, which is derived from Horus-at, the full name of the ancient Egyptian son of God, Horus.

''According to Olumide Lucas in 'The Religion of The Yorubas', the Yoruba during antiquity lived in ancient Egypt, before migrating to the Atlantic coast. He uses as demonstration the similarity of languages, religious beliefs, customs, and names of persons, places, and things. He wrote that..

"Abundant proof of intimate connection between the ancient Egyptians and the Yoruba may be produced under this head. Most of the principle gods were well known, at one time, to the Yoruba. Among these gods are Osiris, Isis, Horus, Shu, Sut, Thoth, Khepera, Amon, Anu, Khonsu, Khnum, Khopri, Hathor, Sokaris, Ra, Seb, the four elemental deities, and others. Most of the gods survive in name or in attributes or both."

I-Ra-Wo in Yoruba means the star that accompanies the Sun (wo: to rise), Khonsu has turned into Osu (the Moon). These linguistic variations are explained by the author on the basis of the phonetics of Yoruba. He reminds us that the ontological notions of ancient Egyptian, such as Ka, Akhu Ku, Saku, and Ba, are to be found in Yoruba. He also points out that the “pope” of the Yoruba, the Oni, has the same title as Osiris, the Egyptian God, that there is a hill called Kuse, near Ilé-Ifé, and another of the same name in Nubia, near ancient Meroë, to the west of the Nile, in the very heart of the country of Kush''

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Napata77:


You're talking rubbish again.



What do you mean ''list what confirmed it''?

Read the damn books I listed. Do you expect CNN to announce it or what?

You even said there's no evidence in comparative linguistics.

What do you call these word similarities and cognates I've been posting?

Wetin dey do you, abi you no get sense?

Listing words that you think are similar between 2 languages as evidence as a link between those 2 languages shows how ignorant you are of Comparative Lingiustics.

Hope you know there are "similarly" sonding words between say Edo and Japaneze.

Are you suggesting that Yoruba is genetically linked to Ancient Egyptian when Yoruba is a Niger-Kordofian language whilst Ancient Egypt is Afrasian?

nameo:


Listing words that you think are similar between 2 languages as evidence as a link between those 2 languages shows how ignorant you are of Comparative Lingiustics.

Hope you know there are "similarly" sonding words between say Edo and Japaneze.

Of course there are similar sounding words between African languages and EVERY other language outside Africa. Because Africa is the place where SPEECH was invented, and where the first languages were spoken. Indeed, there is evidence that the first Japanese and Chinese were African settlers.

The question is the volume of cognates between two languages, and the number of basic words they share, which linguists point to as proof that both populations once lived together.

On that, the heavy correlation of Nigerian languages and the Ancient Egyptian language is clear and indisputable.

Are you suggesting that Yoruba is genetically linked to Ancient Egyptian when Yoruba is a Niger-Kordofian language whilst Ancient Egypt is Afrasian?

'Afrasaian' is a fake, garbage categorisation invented by WHITE EUROCENTRIC DEMONS desperate to cut the majestic Nile Valley civilization from BLACK AFRICA, to whom it belongs. Unscrupulous elements desperate to credit the glorious achievements of our ancestors to non-African sources.

What is 'AfroAsian' about these Pharaohs? These are black men like you, and you're talking nonsense.

Pharaoh Mentuhotep II


Pharaoh Amenhotep III


Pharaoh Narmer 2650 B.C. -- 2632 B.C

These are black men. Where do you see Asia?

See how you let Eurocentrics confuse you with nonsense?
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Here's a statue of Osiris, the mighty God of Egypt.

See his Nigerian-looking face, with flat nose and thick lips.

Where is 'Asia' or 'Europe' in this face - this sculpture dated to over 300 BC, when most inhabitants of Asia and Europe were still running around in caves?

Statue of Osiris

kingthreat:


In the African continent, there was a downward migration from the middle east.

Thank you very much.

DeOTR:

The words have not changed much. This is an undeniable evidence that Yorubas migrated from Egypt.

Yep.

Napata77:


Of course there are similar sounding words between African languages and EVERY other language outside Africa. Because Africa is the place where SPEECH was invented, and where the first languages were spoken. Indeed, there is evidence that the first Japanese and Chinese were African settlers.

The question is the volume of cognates between two languages, and the number of basic words they share, which linguists point to as proof that both populations once lived together.

On that, the heavy correlation of Nigerian languages and the Ancient Egyptian language is clear and indisputable.



'Afrasaian' is a fake, garbage categorisation invented by WHITE EUROCENTRIC DEMONS desperate to cut the majestic Nile Valley civilization from BLACK AFRICA, to whom it belongs. Unscrupulous elements desperate to credit the glorious achievements of our ancestors to non-African sources.

What is 'AfroAsian' about these Pharaohs? These are black men like you, and you're talking nonsense.

Pharaoh Mentuhotep II


Pharaoh Amenhotep III


Pharaoh Narmer 2650 B.C. -- 2632 B.C

The problem is that you are still behaving as tho you are speaking to an enemy. That Stuppid believe is making you continuing in throwing tantrums.

Afrasan is a legitimate language phylum. Same as Niger-Kordofian and Nilo-Saharan. You really do not need "White scholars" to say that before you know that that is correct grouping.

If the only evidence you have for the "massive movement of Ancient Egygtians to Yoruba land" are similarly sounding words between 2 languages that are not even genetically linked, nobody can actually help your ignorance.

You are just deluded due to indoctrination, same way some persons become terroists. The reason why you think any person who does not agree with some of your delusions (even if they agree with some fundamental truths with you) is an enemy is the aftereffects of this indoctrination.

I have asked you to step back, pick any topic, so you have be properly schooled on African history. You are passionate but you need some guidance