IjeBos:


Keep playing your soundbite game. Ask yourself what your end goal is. Is it to better understand this issue, understand what both parties believe on the issues, understand how to prevent the issue, or is to come up with soundbites that make you "feel" right?

CoolUsername:


You understand the issue. The train's axle broke, it lost a wheel, the brakes wouldn't even have worked without the wheels, anyway.
So why were you trying to blame this tragedy on a guy who hasn't been in office for over two years?

IjeBos:


I can't waste my time on debunking all your misinformation in this post. Again, This is a good example of performative politics.
1.) Fill your misinformation gap: There is a good read:

https://jacobin.com/2023/02/rail-companies-safety-rules-ohio-derailment-brake-sytems-regulations

2.)You talked about Biden forcing workers back to work. Try this.. Figure out what position you think is right. Then, find the Biden position, the Republican position, the bill that passed, who voted for it, and what ended up being the final resolution. Hint: The Resolution was closer to what the train workers wanted which was closer to the Biden position and diametrically opposed to what Republicans wanted, and closer to what you've alluded to that you wanted.

What happened in Ohio is the Republican's worldview. Less regulation and corporate accountability to increase corporate profits, which leads to more things like this happening. In the end the cost of the tragedy is greater than the cost of the regulation would have been (this is going to be at a minimum a 1 billion dollar cost). But it doesn't matter to them, because the underrepresented bear it (by a coming cancer cluster and coming deaths), and the monetary costs are socialized through Federal spending. While people like you play your performative politics and cheer on your team/tribe. Well done.

Edit: This isn't Monday Morning quarterbacking. This was something that was proposed because those scientists and statisticians the right so loves to demean saw it as a distinct possibility. And instead of saying damn, the Trump team was wrong. You're spinning in pretzels.

To add insult to injury(probably because the Lawyers advised against it), the Railroad Company wouldn't even show up at the town hall meeting to answer questions from residents. Nigeria type nonsense.

adamusuleiman1:


Speaking to investigative news outlet The Lever, Steven Ditmeyer, a former top official at the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), said the "severity" of the accident was likely increased by the lack of Electronically Controlled Pneumatic (ECP) brakes.

A rule was passed under President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes, but this was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration.

The industry said it would cost more than $3 billion to implement. The FRA under Obama said it would be around half a billion.

The National Transportation Safety Board, a federal agency responsible for investigating rail accidents, told The Lever that the Ohio train that derailed was not fitted with ECP brakes.
"Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes," Ditmeyer said.

IjeBos:


I can't waste my time on debunking all your misinformation in this post. Again, This is a good example of performative politics.
1.) Fill your misinformation gap: There is a good read:

https://jacobin.com/2023/02/rail-companies-safety-rules-ohio-derailment-brake-sytems-regulations

2.)You talked about Biden forcing workers back to work. Try this.. Figure out what position you think is right. Then, find the Biden position, the Republican position, the bill that passed, who voted for it, and what ended up being the final resolution. Hint: The Resolution was closer to what the train workers wanted which was closer to the Biden position and diametrically opposed to what Republicans wanted, and closer to what you've alluded to that you wanted.

What happened in Ohio is the Republican's worldview. LESS REGULATION AND CORPORATE ACCOUNTABILITY TO INCREASE CORPORATE PROFITS, which leads to more things like this happening. In the end the cost of the tragedy is greater than the cost of the regulation would have been (this is going to be at a minimum a 1 billion dollar cost).

But it doesn't matter to them, because the underrepresented bear it (by a coming cancer cluster and coming deaths), and the monetary costs are socialized through Federal spending. While people like you play your performative politics and cheer on your team/tribe. Well done.

Edit: This isn't Monday Morning quarterbacking. This was something that was proposed because those scientists and statisticians the right so loves to demean saw it as a distinct possibility. And instead of saying damn, the Trump team was wrong. You're spinning in pretzels.

To add insult to injury(probably because the Lawyers advised against it), the Railroad Company wouldn't even show up at the town hall meeting to answer questions from residents. Nigeria type nonsense.

CoolUsername:


You understand the issue. The train's axle broke, it lost a wheel, the brakes wouldn't even have worked without the wheels, anyway.
So why were you trying to blame this tragedy on a guy who hasn't been in office for over two years?

Raskimonojendor:

Smh. I had to capitalize the bolded in the 3rd paragraph.

adamusuleiman1:
Some 2018 articles.

adamusuleiman1:
Trickle down economics in action (NOT):

IjeBos:


https://jacobin.com/2023/02/rail-companies-safety-rules-ohio-derailment-brake-sytems-regulations

2.)You talked about Biden forcing workers back to work. Try this.. Figure out what position you think is right. Then, find the Biden position, the Republican position, the bill that passed, who voted for it, and what ended up being the final resolution. Hint: The Resolution was closer to what the train workers wanted which was closer to the Biden position and diametrically opposed to what Republicans wanted, and closer to what you've alluded to that you wanted.

Raskimonojendor:

Aside the left vs right thing and despite being new here, have had to fact check everything some posters post here. If not a few posters that keeps debunking misinformation, this thread would have been a cesspit. Maybe some people get paid here to post misinformation.

IjeBos:


I believe one axle on one car broke. The train was about 1.9 miles long with about 150 cars. The brakes they have now, activate from front to back. Imagine what could happen if a front brake is stopped suddenly while the rest are moving. Try that on a mountain bike (you'd flip over), in terms of a train, you'd derail. The new system activates all the brakes at the same time.

But having said that, the issue is how the administration dealt with stuff like this. The Trump administration let the industries write the rules/regulations themselves. The classic fox guarding the hen house. In fact some in the Republican party want to get rid of, as some has said, all the 3 letter federal agencies. The EPA has 3 letters and so does FTA. In fact the Conservative Supreme Court just passed a ruling making it harder for the EPA to make rules. And you are sitting here acting as if Biden wasn't around, Republicans would have done better? It's that nonsense that brings the US closer to what the mayhem on Nigerian roads look like. You're form there, is that what you want to see?

CoolUsername:


"It's not A Trump's fault but he definitely won't have done any better!"

Hey, at least this is an improvement from trying to blame it on Trump like you were a couple of comments back.

adamusuleiman1:
One of the leading contender for the GOP presidential ticket, Donald Trump stylishly knocks Nikki Haley as being incompetent as governor. Although Former President Trump once boasted that he hires the best people.

adamusuleiman1:
Perhaps, only black people commit crimes.

James P. Bradley (Republican Party) ran for election to the U.S. Senate to represent California. He lost in the primary on June 7, 2022.

Bradley also ran in a special election to the U.S. Senate to represent California. He lost in the special primary on June 7, 2022.

1stGenAmerican:


WTF is right. And in 3 states, Republicans are pushing a bill that would allow children as young as 13 to work industrial labor, etc. and any liability in the case of accidents or death would not fall
On the company. They’re trying to drag this country backwards.

IjeBos:
Really not sure why Fox News didn't settle this Dominion Suit. This Filing.
These texts show Fox News really holds it's viewers in low regard. I'm sure some in this thread who have been beating the stolen election horse will come in and say they were wrong. Nah, they'll just double down with another Fox outrage of the day. For all those Fox watchers, how does it feel to be thought of as a fool?

Dominion's Summary Judgment Filing against Fox News with texts from all their top actors and Rupert Murdoch.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/redacted-documents-in-dominion-fox-news-case/dca5e3880422426f/full.pdf

CoolUsername:


You understand the issue. The train's axle broke, it lost a wheel, the brakes wouldn't even have worked without the wheels, anyway.
So why were you trying to blame this tragedy on a guy who hasn't been in office for over two years?

feedthenation:

Fox Stars Privately Expressed Disbelief About Election Fraud Claims. ‘Crazy Stuff.’
The comments, by Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and others, were released as part of a defamation suit against Fox News by Dominion Voter Systems.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/business/media/fox-dominion-lawsuit.html

Obrigardo:


Basilico loco, come and see the idiots who have been radicalizing you against your black skin folks.