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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:21am On Feb 16, 2023 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:30am On Feb 16, 2023 |
Ppogbae:No de call football soccer I take God beg you |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:47am On Feb 16, 2023 |
Odunayaw: Football is also soccer in Nigeria. This is not the UK. We played table soccer as kids not table football. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:13pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
17 goals in 25 games ππ½ Chuba Akpom is bossing it in the Championship. 7 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 12:18pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Ppogbae:calling the Liga MX one of the best in the world is a big cap also. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:28pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Amedino99:massive one ooo π€£π€£ |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:42pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
jihday: First of all youth football β½ is essentially development football with players going through multiple ups and downs in their progression. There is NOTHING like a best player in youth football β½,it's highly inconsistent to make clear cut deductions Jerome Sinclair was the youngest player to play for Liverpool at 16. Before he was 18 , we had writing him off, he's been a journey man be since he left the academy and is almost finished at 25. Actually this is very common phenomenon, some players dominate until they get to 18 other players catch up and over take and he drops to the bottom of the group. I know players bought for Β£1 Millon pounds at 15 /16 released at 18 , sometimes earlier this is actually quite common occurrence. Best is never ever in an β½ football β½ a static deduction, best is a variable that changes with time, club, league, manager, team mates, etc , etc, that's why the definition of world π class is anchored on consistency, which is over time. This year's top striker can be next seasons flop, football is harsh and unforgiving. Dusan Vhlovic was at the top of Seria A, for two consecutive seasons now he is way below by comparison. And that is senior first team footballer not a youth footballer. It's obviously obvious you have no IDEA WHAT HAPPENS, stick to armchair analysis and medtua reports. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:45pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:51pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
charlesemeka85: Bruv don't know how he has done ππΏ it but he has. He has been a journey man footballer going nowhere fast since he left Arsenal Academy with so much promise. Gets to Middlesbrough after two seasons of anonymousness he has Blown π₯π€―π£π. Can he step up to the EPL and cut it , score goals yes but outstanding I really don't know. But as it stands in the HERE and NOW he is better than KC. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:00pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
charlesemeka85: What is it about Arsenal and preparing players for success. Tella Chuba Ejaria Eze The Nigerian ones I can remember,then again what happened to NWAKALI was he not learning β |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:01pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe: Extreme Delusion |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:57pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Hanibal: Without context Data is very limited in making inferences on quality and capacity. The KPI's you have presented are academic noise making without context. 1.work rate 2. Skill set 3. Pace 4. Technical ability 5. Physicality The measurements of all 5 KPI's will be seen in the context of the league you are playing. So a footballer with high stats in all of those KPI's in say the Turkish league may not get off the starting line in the EPL. And in this regards only someone with the most outstanding KPI's in the Turkish league may be considered average on arrival in EPL, or even very poor. The requirements of each league is different as well as difficultly to complete task's. In a less physical league with a lower work rate (intensity with or without the ball, running and chasing) You may have a player with a statistics of 10km in a match but it could lazy running without conviction and or intent. Then you could have a player with a lesser figure of 7 km of extreme intensity and determination and winning MENTALITY. That intensity may not necessarily be captured in the statistics of interceptions and tackles, but that intensity will change the trajectory of the match , cause errors and limit the options of the opposing side. These variables will not be caught in your statistics. What it takes to win a header in the EPL is not the same as it is in the French league one. Different levels of physicality and pace. The difficulty of putting a through ball with much more intelligent, faster and physically stronger defenders , will not be the same in Bundisliga as it is in the EPL. Again in general, before somebody talks about Haaland. Consider Timo Werner and his perspective in comparison to the Bundisliga,it's faster tougher and more physical. So now let's get to context again in relation to Nwakali a big part of the discussion on statistics. The Segundo division is very poor quality below the first 5/6 teams. Having this in mind whatever the statistics you gather they have to be seen in the poor level of the league. None of you here, would consider the statistics of any player in NPFL team as a yardstick for quality. Why then would you consider the very poor quality Segundo division and in this case a team at the bottom relegation zone, Ponferradina which is near bankrupt. This is not a comedic attempt to cast aspersion but I truly believe and if it were possible I would place a bet with my small π·Β£Β£ that Bendel insurance will flog Ponferradina FC ,with all seriousness. All the KPI's have to be seen and measured in the context of the league and the individual player. This is something that statistics cannot capture. In this regards that's why a club will send a scout to make a personal appraisal all things seen in context. That context is the league the player will potentially come to and the ethos of the club as well. Finally, l watched Sheffield Wednesday FC beat a full strength Newcastle United a League One club ( with several Nigerian players) Do you think any Segundo team can beat a EPL team, that's too much actually a Championship team and which one βin my opinion Sheffield Wednesday would flog Ponferradina FC. For context consider no EPL U21 Academy team can beat a league one team. However, Wolves U21 were narrowly beaten 2-1 by Villa Real B ( effectively the youth team) I watched Wolves U21 get flogged up close and personal by Liverpool FC U21 5-0. Stats must be seen in CONTEXT not in emotive assumption.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:02pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
komekn:surprise of the seasons in terms of 9ja players so far but better than nacho? I canβt say for now until he proves himself in the epl next season hopefully if boro gets promoted Him and tella should be tested in any of super eagles friendlies this year |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:10pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
charlesemeka85: Your CONSISTENT continuous and outstanding performances in your club and league are the basis for national team invitation. That is the only TEST required. You don't come to the SE to be tested you come to prove your ability that's ALREADY tested. Right now Ademola and Tella are the BEST forward wide men available to the SE right now END OF DISCUSSION no DEBATE. What's funny is that Southampton may get relegated and Burnley definitely Promoted. For one thing Tella will not return to the Championship and Burnley will sign him permanent. They really should have done it a lot earlier because for one there will be multiple clubs wanting to sign him in the EPL and Europe in general. When a player is performing he doesn't beg for club, club deh beg am. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 2:25pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Taking bets, o ye barca fans, put ur money where your mouth is. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:43pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Spanish prosecutors are investigating around 1.4 million euros in payments soccer giants Barcelona had made over three years to a company owned by a high-ranking official of Spain's refereeing body Saw this online few minutes agoπ₯Ίπ³π€¬ |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 2:46pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
komekn: Ah Komekn! My comment was simple... Bring data from your up close and personal assessment of players that can control the midfield better than Nwakali.... You did not provide any! Wiki screenshots all over the place... Again! While I'm still struggling to see the relevance of league comparisons to the above question, I must remind you that: 1. The speed of light is the same anywhere on the Earth's surface 2. The speed of sound too is the same anywhere on earth's surface 3. Gravity is also a constant in most places at sea level. Which implies that a 100m sprint at a speed of 5m/s in the Turkish league is the same as a 100m sprint at a speed of 5m/s in the premier league, these are empirical stats that are the same anywhere in the world, I don't understand where "context" comes into empirical discussions on the same physical plane. Finally I will not be tempted to respond to other things you brought up, I do not see their relevance to our line of discussion . Please do not derail this discuss, as the demand is a very simple one :You mentioned Nigerian names, names of Nigerian players in league 1 and 2 who you believe can control the midfield better than Nwakali, because you've watched them *up close and personal* I then asked you humbly to give us empirical evidence from your up close and personal assessment notebook ( not Wikipedia screenshots) . I believe when you go watch players, you write somethings down... Show us those things. Abi your employers just take your word for it? No data ,no stats, no PowerPoint presentations... If Komekn says the player is good then he's good, if he says the player is a waste man then he's a waste man and that's that! Is that how things work in your professional world? 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:05pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
komekn: Explain what you meant by perfunctory benefit. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:02pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Mexico has 2 teams in top 20 Female clubs in the World and 5 in top 40! Come with your stats! Ppogbae:
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:03pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
All these small small kids with phones! Amedino99: 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:21pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
komekn: Honestly, this is a rant. Show us why you think the names you suggested are better than Kelechi Nwakali at controlling and dictating play with long and short passes. Any method you want to use is okay. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:18pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Marjoribanks: This is a funny list... USA that has the best women national team in the world has only one team on that list.. meanwhile, majority of their players play in the US.... By your logic, Mexico has a better league than USA and therefore, a better national team,right? The Mexico team we faced were very average..Easily beatable.. The team has regressed under Randy... Currently on our worst FIFA rank in history! The man isn't just tactically poor, his player selection sucks... Imagine Ekong playng in midfield for the super eagles....that's what he did yesterday with Plumptree... 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:21pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
komekn: Better than KC indeed....He is scoring in the championship against the kind of teams you would rubbish Iheanacho for scoring against in cup games... As usual, hypocrisy! 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:27pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Ppogbae:You no say na gin be Oracle water, all day |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:35pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
charlesemeka85: Hmmm |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 5:38pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
So Haaland has never won highest goal scorer award in a league before Not in Norway, nor in Austria, nor in Germany, hard to believe 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:28pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
maidaboi: If he wasn't injured l guess |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:31pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Yet he's the "hard" epl's leading marksman gaping the second top scorer by nine goals maidaboi: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:33pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Mujtahida: When Ademola came to Liecester how many games did he start and how many minutes did he get. He had to prove himself to get game time. Ademola is a winger with different expectations from the club. But he played 36 games the same number of games as KC but scored 6 goale and KC scored 4. Or Ademola na Onyibo and Brendan likes him more abe β |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 6:55pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
OGN claims Rohr is getting close to becoming Benin Republic coach. That got me thinking.......what happened to the big teams like Egypt who were reportedly chasing him with loads of dollars when he was with the Super Eagles? Why is it only Benin Republic that is going for him now? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:03pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
Curtisaxel10: No big team were chasing him...All na media hogwash... His CV dowsnt make him appealing to big teams... 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:05pm On Feb 16, 2023 |
komekn: At the end of his impressive campaign, Leicester couldn't sign Lookman permanently...why's that? 2 Likes |
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