Bloomsbury:
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Omo, devs in Nigeria need to know about this company.
Please do you mind sharing their name or link or YouTube video.
Basically that is how Andela should be doing...am still surprised why there no company in Nigeria doing this.

I would love to write about this company on my medium publishing company, Twitter & LinkedIn. More people need to know about them.

qtguru:


So Codementor is a site, where you get paid to teach, there are some accounts created for Andela people, which allow payment to be made to Andela tutors based on trust.

a Nigerian used the account to act like he was teaching someone else, but he was teaching his other account so he can get paid as a tutor when Codementor noticed it, they closed the Andela account, and Andela decided not to use the Codementor account because of a bad reputation.

OlawaleBammie:


Like seriously I feel like crying and covering my eyes in shame for my country people



Bro I once asked u a vital question but u refused to grant me audience

qtguru:


A lot on my mind, unless you bring it up I won't remember.

OlawaleBammie:


Yea

Like I have interest in moving abroad, probably to Canada, tho I should have started arranging my papers but I put it on hold for now, reason been that I am undergoing a software engineering program in a bootcamp and I want to finish the program and have some months of internship (not necessarily a paid internship tho) before I start preparing for my journey.

Tho I wil be using study route to move abroad but deep down of me I know I don't want to do any other job abroad apart from software engineering.


How viable do u think I can achieve this and secure job quickly sir. I don't want to go there and start suffering mysef and blaming mysef later.

qtguru:


You are not limited to Software dev, the only thing you can use to sustain is picking up freelance skills or new skills. there are some tools you can learn to get some earnings. No-code tools are trendy and require little technical skills. However, I'll advise starting some freelance on the side, so that when you enter Canada, you can still have some earnings or something to sustain. If you can join a freelance community or research what skills to learn.

Also, prayers too, because surviving in another man's land is not beans. wish you all the best. Check Canada freelance community online and see what it's like.

DissTroy:


My guy! I decided to officially add these to the services my digital tech agency offer at the beginning of the year., scaling into full brand identity creation and management. Still redeveloping the website. Should be done before the elections.

I had to teach 4 lawyers how to draw up some documents in the last 3 years. I have been doing pitch decks too and even went offline to do a sponsorship package (pitch deck and all for a client). I do all business writings and intensive documentation myself.

I guess it's why I don't describe myself as a web developer - I ideate and grow brand with digital tech. Web development, graphic and UI, and marketung are just some of such ways of achieving that.
I call myself a digitech builder. I guess it best describes you too.

thebosstrevor1:


this isn't only a Nigerian thing

Dont use YC as the yardstick.

Lof of founders end up with little or nothing after raising a lot of funds..... Just ask former andela Nigerian founders

DissTroy:


Thank you! I'd check them out. Google brings up a lot of sponsored ads when this is searched and real proof of tech founders who admit to using the services is rare.

JoyousFurnitire:


I think Enyata is doing something similar. Not just sure if their devs work remotely for other companies.

OlawaleBammie:


Yea

Like I have interest in moving abroad, probably to Canada, tho I should have started arranging my papers but I put it on hold for now, reason been that I am undergoing a software engineering program in a bootcamp and I want to finish the program and have some months of internship (not necessarily a paid internship tho) before I start preparing for my journey.

Tho I wil be using study route to move abroad but deep down of me I know I don't want to do any other job abroad apart from software engineering.


How viable do u think I can achieve this and secure job quickly sir. I don't want to go there and start suffering mysef and blaming mysef later.

DissTroy:


Exactly. I've always been inclined towards this after studying the Nigerian tech startup ecosystem.

Many individual investors are asking for outrageous equity.

It's sad that the Startup Law isn't being implemented. It'd have democratised access.
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You know of alternative feasible options?

DissTroy:

Exactly what I am doing. 4 ideas spread across fintech subsets and PAAS. It's been taking longer and having to stay awake most nights but it's coming up well since I can do the UI/UX and part product development of two myself (content, building and structuring).



Man! Even YC which is huge and structured takes 7% as equity for $375k investment and gets right of first refusal in every rasing round. Imagine what less structured ones are taking as equity.



Thankfully, I took time to learn marketing asides other technical skills. I have NDAs for everything. Not even my lady has access to documents, content and web files I'm working on.

Between September 2022 and July 2022, I got 3 guys and teams who should be a part of it, sent them NDAs but they were dragging their feet about signing it so I pulled back. Ref flag.

demmyhandsome:


I will like to connect with you on this boss. I need some guides. Can you please drop your contact?

cyberkitty:


What are you really asking for you...what do you want to know? I can't wrapp my head around the meaning of your last statement

cyberkitty:


Am curious to know...is the company you're building a software?

Is the company registered only in Nigeria?
If it is not registered in the US as. Deleware C- corps...you might take you longer time to succeed!
The two guys and the team you sent the NDA to, was it a proposal to join the founding team or to employ them?

cyberkitty:
..

This is still me Op. Nairaland limited my account for 3 day now from commenting (claiming servers are overwhelmed)

Am happy to hear you're studying to be a software engineer. But I have some new ideas perhaps you haven't explored before.

If you want to move abroad, moving to European countries would be better for you. They are both safer, less expensive and sometimes you can get a very very good pay with some tech companies like €200K -€500k.

If am to recommend, consider this countries; Luxembourg, New Zealand, Sweden, Portugal (very easy to travel), Germany (very easy) , Czech republic, Romania, UK, Estonia, Finland & Netherlands.

Canada is lonely and cold.

You can get cheap schools that cost just $50 - $300 per year in those European countries. There is even a school in Czech republic that cost $25 per year and another school in Romania that cost $250 per year.

I wrote an ebook how to travel out using school for Africans...you can DM to get the book link.
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Now you're still on Nigeria, you can be doing some freelance jobs to be earning you money, which you can be saving that would help you when you relocate abroad.

There are some skills that are so much in demand today you can be using to get freelance jobs. Like for me I had to learn content writer, Ghostwriting, video editing, Ebook writing.

The best place to get a job quickly and even with VISA sponsorship is on LinkedIn.

Just login to your LinkedIn account and write a post..
Saying you need a job. So so is my skills, and these are what I can do like Bala Blu....and then you can write, you are available for VISA sponsorship or relocation etc...and post it...you will see many recruiting firms, business owners and hiring managers contacting you 😁.

Also you can repeat the same thing on TWITTER 😎.

But if you want to relocate fast abroad, apply to study SHORT SKILL COURSES, OR VOCATIONAL TRAINING PROGRAMS in any country of your choice.
They are cheap. For USA , you will need a Via calls M-1 but I don't have much experience with Canada though!

cyberkitty:


This is still me Op. Nairaland limited my account for 3 day now from commenting (claiming servers are overwhelmed)

So this Enyata is a coding bootcamp or what and is which country please?

Can you get the full name or link or is this the full name?

truthCoder:


My strategy is to build up a working and market ready product first before involving investors.

You can deploy most web solutions now with free tier SaaS. It might take you a long while and personal funding but build it and get it ready for the market.

Projects at idea stages are usually priced like chicken shit by these hawks.

In addition, know that not all businesses need large money. Dont collect 100k usd because it is available when all you need is just 1k usd.

Finally, never discuss your ideas with just anyone. First, they must represent a genuine and verifiable entity and they must have the authorization to have such discussions. Secondly, there must be an NDA that is protecting you.

Bloomsbury:


I just discovered something today that the easiest way Entrepreneurs immigrate to the UK is by registering a UK company right from Nigeria.

One of the surest way many now use to Japa to UK is by registering a limited liability company there. As a non-resident company director, you are entitled for resident permit, business Visa 😁

And also, a UK Visa can also get you into the US.
After registering your company, you will need to visit the UK immigration office in Nigeria to apply for the resident permit. And the process is quite easy for Nigerians who have dozens of startup ideas. 😁

Or you can apply for Sole Representative of an Overseas Business visa

cyberkitty:


Note: This is still me. Nairaland limited my account for 3 day now from commenting (claiming servers are overwhelmed)

It's true a lot of founders get little equity sometimes after raising a lot of seed rounds but after carefully examining mist cases, the founders are at fault. Only some biotech and hadtech companies are exception in my case study...cos this type of Companies require billions of dollars to bring to market.

Here are some things I observed.
1. Mist founders don't want to invest their shishsi in their startup only expecting to get money from Investors and foolishly giving the investors too much equity resulting in too much dilution .

2. If your startup is becoming profitable or your business is making a lot of profits...you may never raise funds again...which means you founders get to keep your huge equities.

3. The documents the founders used to raise funds wasn't properly used. The lawyer didn't explicitly stated how much equities the company is willing to give and since the founders don't want to get themselves into all those lawyer Startup stuffs like F stocks etc ...the founders only get to know they have been ripped off later in life.

3. Some founders don't do their due diligence on Investors. We have bad investors who are very greedy. This is why belonging to an accelerator like YC or 500 startups or Techstars is very important. They protect you from bad Investors.

What do you think about what I have just said?

thebosstrevor1:


your points are 100% valid.

i just want to write that, even if you invest your money into your startup, you can also be ripped off by investors. most investors are looking for the best deal possible, and sometimes, they can give you a large sum of money in exchange for huge shares in your company, if you are very desperate you fall into the trap and you lose control of the business.

on the issue of YC, i don't think YC protect you from bad investors, they just give you access to a pool of investors and many investors want what is best for them, if your idea is something related to fintech, you might get a lot of investors willing to invest,

i believe the best way to build a company is to bootstrap to a certain profit level, and have some leverage, investors will come, and when they come, you can walk away when you notice that a bad deal is on the table.

OlawaleBammie:
Whaooo


Sir pls I have some questions

1) those countries u mentioned sir, how wil it be possible for someone who doesn't speak their language to blend?
2)what is the best easy way to go, considering I have never had a real life experience in programming, all I know is the one been tot in my bootcamp.
3)How can a newbie secure a freelance job, it's hard for the experienced to get one talk more of we the inexperienced.

DissTroy:
I took time to go through the Presidential Advisory Council setup implement the Nigerian Startup Act again last night.

I noticed it's made-up partly of the very clique you most know-tow to in the tech industry to get access to Silicon Valley's VC structure, and employees of communications giants and governments who most likely don't have tech businesses of their own or have founded any business for that matter.

How can the branch manager of a bank understand the trials and troubles of founders in the tech startup space? It seems flawed.

Little wonder since October 2022 when the Act was unveiled, nothing has been done about it. I doesn't affect them.

cyberkitty:


Here are the answers to your questions.

1. As long as you know how to speak English, you will blend. The countries I mentioned are English speaking countries. The only thing you should never do is FRAUD. If you enter police case, only God can help you.

2. The best way to learn is by building...there are lots of projects on GitHub you can try replicate to be job ready. But the best way to be job ready as a programmer is by going to Upwork, go to the area in tech you specialize on .
F
instance, if you're a Web developer, go to web development job section. You will see clients posting for jobs, carefully look at the job descriptions and try to do the job yourself without bidding for it there.
Just be using upwork job section, go to the area in tech you work on and see what people are requesting for to be built or fixed and be implementing them yourself. This is the best way to be job ready.

If you're in web development track, you can also be building chrome Extensions. This is the best way. You can use those chrome Extensions you built as a proof you can build to clients...clients love to see proof of your work. Chrome extensions are ways to build if you know HTML, CSS & JAVASCRIPT.

Am running a coding bootcamp for building chrome Extensions if you're interested. You can DM me @ +234= 9025= 4818=94

3. Using the answers of No.2 you can solve number 3. But most importantly, learn to network in uiu field. Go to LinkedIn, Twitter & Discord to network with developers and they can tell you recent job openings or give you jobs themselves.

OlawaleBammie:


Oohh

I feel surpressed by Ur experience already, I think i am overwhelmed sir, I need to take it one after the other.


The tin is I just started and I am yet to mature enough to know the path to follow or build a niche. I am still on C-programming and python, and I can't lie to u I have not had a real life application of any of them so I don't really know how to use them, but I can answer some questions in C and python.

Maybe I should learn more a little to get mysef on track cus with this Ur position and experience I feel lost already sir.

cyberkitty:


Please don't feel surpressed or overwhelmed by my comments. Please if I may, I would like to advise you to go into Web development for a starting....it the easiest path to get a freelance job or get hired.

Also if you plan to go into All development later in the future, you can still utilize JAVASCRIPT which you will learn in web dev.

If you would permit me to advise you, choose this pathway.

Phase 1 - HTML Phase 2 - CSS Phase 3 - JavaScript Phase 4 - Git/ Linux Phase 5 - React Phase 6 - Node Phase 7 - Express Phase 8 - Mongo{or MySQL}

It would be very easy for you to build portfolio using JAVASCRIPT to build chrome Extensions which are perfect for showing employers it clients you have job experience.

If you have more questions, please feel free to post them here.

cyberkitty:


Please don't feel surpressed or overwhelmed by my comments. Please if I may, I would like to advise you to go into Web development for a starting....it the easiest path to get a freelance job or get hired.

Also if you plan to go into All development later in the future, you can still utilize JAVASCRIPT which you will learn in web dev.

If you would permit me to advise you, choose this pathway.

Phase 1 - HTML Phase 2 - CSS Phase 3 - JavaScript Phase 4 - Git/ Linux Phase 5 - React Phase 6 - Node Phase 7 - Express Phase 8 - Mongo{or MySQL}

It would be very easy for you to build portfolio using JAVASCRIPT to build chrome Extensions which are perfect for showing employers it clients you have job experience.

If you have more questions, please feel free to post them here.

cyberkitty:


I agree with everything you said here o. A lot of investors don't care about you, they are just looking for a way to return profits to their VC firm & grow their career.

This your statement is hilarious 🤣" as a founder you get overwhelmed and give out shares for nothing if time is not taken you will become an employee in the company you created" but it's actually the TRUTH...if you're not careful, you can become an employee in the same company you created after taking too much investments. It's general info that fintech Startups receive the highest investments and can return a lot of 10000X to VC firm...that's why fintech ideas mist times are the most successful startup ideas.

Like you said, the best thing to do is to have LEVERAGE.

Have LEVERAGE before seeking investments. Build a product, make some profits and you won't have to be at the mercy of the Investors.

OlawaleBammie:
I tot u responded to my last post sir, I didn't see anything