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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raskymonojendor: 8:30pm On Feb 18, 2023
IjeBos:


Now compare that to my the rate of myocarditis among those people that caught covid. Now further compare that to the people that didn't get vaccinated, caught covid and died. What point are you trying to prove?

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 8:31pm On Feb 18, 2023
raskymonojendor:

Stale gist. Now do the same for those that were affected with Covid. Is it not like 10 times more

Jesus Christ y'all can't read
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:33pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:


Did you even read the excerpt before posting your pre-programmed response?

The excess cases of myocarditis in unvaccinated men under 40 who contracted covid was 14 per 1 million.

The excess cases of myocarditis in vaccinated men under 40 was 16 in 1 million after a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine and only increased after subsequent doses. It was 97 in 1 million after the second dose of the Moderna vaccine.

You're right. Read it rather quickly. Working on my bike and reply when I'm on my laptop looking for info.
Still doesn't change the thrust of my questions. To do a fair comparison, you would have to compare them to the same group of people with the same repeated amount of covid infections. Do you have the stats with those with the 2nd and 3rd covid infections?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raskymonojendor: 8:33pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:


Jesus Christ y'all can't read

Searching for the link to the screenshot.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 8:35pm On Feb 18, 2023
basilico:


The left is more prone to commit violence. I lean to the right and led by the scriptures that the progressive left derides. right leans in my opinion are less likely to commit some forms of crimes because they have a higher calling and inner voice moral voice. Lefties do not have that inner moral compass

Let me give an example I would fight with you physically if we met because you want to impose your views on me by force. You would be the instigator of the fight seeing your temperament to alternate views

Do you have some proof for this or are we just making stuff up?

Because the most forms of sexual abuse comes from right leaning and religious folk, who often absolve themselves of responsibility by saying the devil made me do it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:35pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:


Did you even read the excerpt before posting your pre-programmed response?

The excess cases of myocarditis in unvaccinated men under 40 who contracted covid was 14 per 1 million.

The excess cases of myocarditis in vaccinated men under 40 was 16 in 1 million after a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine and only increased after subsequent doses. It was 97 in 1 million after the second dose of the Moderna vaccine.

You're right. Read it rather quickly. Working on my bike and reply when I'm on my laptop looking for info.
Still doesn't change the thrust of my questions. To do a fair comparison, you would have to compare them to the same group of people with the same repeated amount of covid infections. Do you have the stats with those with the 2nd and 3rd covid infections? For 1st dose the rate is lower than 1st infection. So, what about 2nd dose vs. 2nd infection. Then you ahve to factor in when the immunity from natural infections wane and evaluate the risk of then not getting a 2nd booster shot.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 8:39pm On Feb 18, 2023
IjeBos:


You're right. Read it rather quickly. Working on my bike and reply when I'm on my laptop looking for info.
Still doesn't change the thrust of my questions. To do a fair comparison, you would have to compare them to the same group of people with the same repeated amount of covid infections. Do you have the stats with those with the 2nd and 3rd covid infections? For 1st dose the rate is lower than 1st infection. So, what about 2nd dose vs. 2nd infection. Then you ahve to factor in when the immunity from natural infections wane and evaluate the risk of then not getting a 2nd booster shot.

Nice, maybe it would've been good to actually be able to weigh these options before companies tried to compel people into getting the jab.

Maybe it would've been nice to not censor all forms of covid vaccine skepticism from public discussion.

Maybe it would've been nice to not have branded everybody who wasn't seal-clapping for the next booster shot at anti-vaxxers.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 8:40pm On Feb 18, 2023
raskymonojendor:


Searching for the link to the screenshot.

The info is in the screenshot you absolute spaz
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raskymonojendor: 8:41pm On Feb 18, 2023
I still don't really understand the point of the post. The header itself states what we already know.


This news is stale.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 8:42pm On Feb 18, 2023
raskymonojendor:
I still don't really understand the point of the post. The header itself states what we already know.

This news is stale.

>only reading the headline💀

These are the people calling you a conspiracy theorist online
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raskymonojendor: 8:43pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:


>only reading the headline💀

These are the people calling you a conspiracy theorist online
Are you so blind that you can see my attached screenshot that came with the headline.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:46pm On Feb 18, 2023
Weregonnalose:


90% of tha women isa ya mother. Ya father who isa hustler ina Naija isa beat ya mother and tha rape. I isa got this ah information from ah ya and ya father isa ya role model.


It's the dumb*ss detective again. I see you're back to your "sleuthing". Looking for more embarrassment? Some advice; Weak, insecure people hide behind anonymity to talk shots at people. I've given you a glimmer of my life.. talk about yours.. so we can all laugh at you together.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raskymonojendor: 8:47pm On Feb 18, 2023
More Stale news:

COVID-19 is 7 TIMES more dangerous for myocarditis than vaccine: study

A new study has found that the risk of myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle, is seven times higher with a COVID-19 infection than with the vaccine to protect against the disease.

One of COVID-19’s complications includes myocarditis. The mRNA COVID-19 vaccine has previously been linked to heart problems, such as myocarditis in adolescent boys, even though immunizations have been demonstrated to lessen severe COVID-19 symptoms. Large studies, however, have not adequately assessed the relative risk of myocarditis related to infections and vaccinations.

The studies included nearly 58 million patients with cardiac complications who belonged to one of two groups: the 2.5 million who contracted the virus compared to those who did not contract the virus, and the 55.5 million who received the COVID-19 vaccination in comparison to those who did not.

“Our findings show that the risk of myocarditis from being infected by COVID-19 is far greater than from getting the vaccine,” Navya Voleti, a co-author of the study said in a release.



https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.951314/full

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 8:48pm On Feb 18, 2023
raskymonojendor:

Are you so blind that you can see my attached screenshot that came with the headline.

It's quite obvious that you either didn't read past the headline or maybe you couldn't just comprehend.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:50pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:


Nice, maybe it would've been good to actually be able to weigh these options before companies tried to compel people into getting the jab.

Maybe it would've been nice to not censor all forms of covid vaccine skepticism from public discussion.

Maybe it would've been nice to not have branded everybody who wasn't seal-clapping for the next booster shot at anti-vaxxers.

Wait, what? 1.2 Million People died of Covid in the US... so far. There are risks to everything. Have you read the aspirin/Tylenol bottle you take? Vaccines are not immune from risks, but there is a general understanding, for society to continue to exist there are certain risks we all have to share. It sux to say, but at times we have to talk like an adult.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:51pm On Feb 18, 2023
DeusXmachina:


Do you have some proof for this or are we just making stuff up?

Because the most forms of sexual abuse comes from right leaning and religious folk, who often absolve themselves of responsibility by saying the devil made me do it.

The left is godless . They push deviancy while the right prefer their siblings go tochurch.
is this an arguement to start.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 8:51pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:
The American Heart Association has been taken over by far right conspiracy theorists. Sad! 😔
Failed attempt at sarcasm.

This is not news.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 8:54pm On Feb 18, 2023
basilico:


The left is godless . They push deviancy while the right prefer their siblings go tochurch.
is this an arguement to start.
LMAO. How has going to church worked for us in Nigeria.

Ritual killings, kidnapping, corruption, murder, mediocrity, traffic accidents, bribery, blackmail, rape, abortion, prostitution, hook up e.t.c are all very high, and the country is still as backward as ever. Hypocrisy is so high. Something common with the Bible belt in the US too

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Weregonnalose: 8:57pm On Feb 18, 2023
DeusXmachina:


Do you have some proof for this or are we just making stuff up?

Because the most forms of sexual abuse comes from right leaning and religious folk, who often absolve themselves of responsibility by saying the devil made me do it.

isa ah fact ya donkey
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 8:58pm On Feb 18, 2023
DeusXmachina:


Do you have some proof for this or are we just making stuff up?

Because the most forms of sexual abuse comes from right leaning and religious folk, who often absolve themselves of responsibility by saying the devil made me do it.
100%.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 8:59pm On Feb 18, 2023
IjeBos:


Wait, what? 1.2 Million People died of Covid in the US... so far. There are risks to everything. Have you read the aspirin/Tylenol bottle you take? Vaccines are not immune from risks, but there is a general understanding, for society to continue to exist there are certain risks we all have to share. It sux to say, but at times we have to talk like an adult.

Everyone knows that vaccines are not immune from risks. However, when we have a new vaccine with far less testing than the industry standard, that does not prevent infection or stop the spread of the infection as effectively as say, the meningitis or polio vaccine, a vaccine with an increased occurrence of adverse effects to a demographic with a lower mortality rate to the infection. Maybe people should be allowed to voice their concerns.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 9:00pm On Feb 18, 2023
Enugurangers:

Failed attempt at sarcasm.

This is not news.

So why do you guys call people anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists for questioning the safety of the vaccine when you know that there are in fact legitimate safety concerns to be had?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 9:03pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:


So why do you guys call people anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists for questioning the safety of the vaccine when you know that there are in fact legitimate safety concerns to be had?
We call them conspiracy theorists for peddling fake news and pushing rubbish drugs that failed lab results for Covid treatment as cure for Covid. E.g. chloroquine and the dewormer drug. Despite the drug manufacturers saying their drugs do not work. You still have some elements peddling lies.

We don't call them CTs for questioning.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:05pm On Feb 18, 2023
Enugurangers:

100%.

Lies . The left has the most cases of criminal convitions. What the left is good at. Projection. whatever they are doing they pin it to the right. The right has a higher calling and a moral compass Which the left derides. You only spew some garbage here and expect us to belive it?
If you go to prisons I am sure you wil find more democrats than republicans Stop your lies

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 9:06pm On Feb 18, 2023
DeusXmachina:


Do you have some proof for this or are we just making stuff up?

Because the most forms of sexual abuse comes from right leaning and religious folk, who often absolve themselves of responsibility by saying the devil made me do it.

Or they just use portions of the Bible(out of context) or Religious documents to justify it.
And even violence. History is littered with Religious violence. Look at the crusades, shit look at the world we live in now, the Middle East, even what's going on in Nigeria.

The type of religion he speaks of is not representative of the Christianity I know. Look at who he is. The lies the dissembling, the inability to rationalize truth.
And honestly, when I think of the Jesus of the New testament I see that more in the Democratic party. That's why Republicans hate the new Pope.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 9:06pm On Feb 18, 2023
basilico:


Lies . The left has the most cases of criminal convitions. What the left is good at. Projection. whatever they are doing they pin it to the right. The right has a higher calling and a moral compass Which the left derides. You only spew some garbage here and expect us to belive it?
If you go to prisons I am sure you wil find more democrats than republicans Stop your lies
Start with your backyard first and stop worrying about left and right. America is light years ahead of Nigeria in a lot of things. The bible says righteousness exalts a nation.
Nigeria must be so very unrighteousness if we are to go by the bible definition since we opposites to exaltation despite all the night services, fasting, tens of churches on streets and so on.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 9:07pm On Feb 18, 2023
basilico:


The left is godless . They push deviancy while the right prefer their siblings go tochurch.
is this an arguement to start.

How does church attendance severe as evidence of not being violent?
Does the evidence, the crime stats support your claim?

The left is about freedom of religion and beliefs as long as you don't use your religious beliefs to push for harm on people you don't like, and don't used your religion to make policy prescriptions for everyone (like say, pushing for a ban on pork because in your religion you don't eat it).

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyFoxxEternity: 9:11pm On Feb 18, 2023
benalvino3:


what do you expect from someone who has the mentality of a lice grin

It’s so irritating how they try to guilt trip you with the whole “you hate people that look like you” nonsense. They think everybody functions on emotions like them. Some of us function on logic. Facts are facts no matter who’s ox is gored by them.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:16pm On Feb 18, 2023
DeusXmachina:


How does church attendance severe as evidence of not being violent?
Does the evidence, the crime stats support your claim?

The left is about freedom of religion and beliefs as long as you don't use your religious beliefs to push for harm on people you don't like, and don't used your religion to make policy prescriptions for everyone (like say, pushing for a ban on pork because in your religion you don't eat it).

People who go to church regularly in my opinion are less likely to be criminals. Maybe you have some stats to disapprove this Share it

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 9:16pm On Feb 18, 2023
CoolUsername:


Everyone knows that vaccines are not immune from risks. However, when we have a new vaccine with far less testing than the industry standard, that does not prevent infection or stop the spread of the infection as effectively as say, the meningitis or polio vaccine, a vaccine with an increased occurrence of adverse effects to a demographic with a lower mortality rate to the infection. Maybe people should be allowed to voice their concerns.

Your concerns based on what? Are you a Doctor? An Epidemiologist? A Biologist? Geneticist? A vaccine researcher? What is your concern based on?

No one is arguing anyone shouldn't voice their opinion. That is in itself the scientific method. The problem is people are voicing concerns based on feels.

When the vaccine first came out I wasn't going to take it. I was going to wait 6months to a year to make sure people didn't turn into 4g towers (I jest), but I wanted to make sure it was safe. It wasn't until I spoke with a friend who worked on a team designing one of the vaccines. She was like it's safe, walked me through the science and said she and her husband had gotten it. She has a PHD in this stuff, from what experience would I be arguing with her? It just became an irrational fear at that point.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 9:20pm On Feb 18, 2023
IjeBos:


Or they just use portions of the Bible(out of context) or Religious documents to justify it.
And even violence. History is littered with Religious violence. Look at the crusades, shit look at the world we live in now, the Middle East, even what's going on in Nigeria.

The type of religion he speaks of is not representative of the Christianity I know. Look at who he is. The lies the dissembling, the inability to rationalize truth.
And honestly, when I think of the Jesus of the New testament I see that more in the Democratic party. That's why Republicans hate the new Pope.

I know right, I wasn't raised christian, but I have to say I like Jesus's character in the new testament.
His core massage was about loving people and treating them fairly.
If he was alive today, I'm sure conservatives would consider him too progressive, and a disgusting socialist.
Considering he hung around with criminals, prostitutes and was for helping the poor and sick. He taught it'd be easier for a camel to pass the eye of a needle, than for a rich person to enter heaven.
Doesn't sound anything like the modern republican party.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyFoxxEternity: 9:25pm On Feb 18, 2023
IjeBos:


Yeah. In my single days, and having spend a lot of time in Nigeria pre-pandemic, I met a lot of amazing Nigerian women. As we got closer, I heard stories of sexual violence - rape, etc. If I had to estimate 90% of the woman I met had a similar story. The first few times I heard it, I doubted it, but the more I heard, Occam's razor set in. I was shocked at the stories. The stories are heart breaking. Having said that, we all have mother's, maybe sisters, maybe daughters and women we cherish. Let's draw the line at sexual harassment and sexual violence. We should be able to agree on that.

Shut up you simp. She should have drawn the line at trying to broke shame a person she doesn’t even know.

Not all women deserve to be treated with respect. Some women are animals and deserve to be treated as such. It’s really simple bro; comport yourself as a lady and men will treat you like a lady. Comport yourself like a wild animal and men will treat your accordingly.

A vagina does not give you license to insult men with impunity. She either apologizes or the show continues.

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