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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47am On Feb 19, 2023
tctrills:

But you always misquote. It's better you copy and paste that way you would be giving the correct info. What do you think?
Now to the Benjamites, your point is that you would allow your kids to fight and kill themselves if they don't regard your laws? Till today, God has not condemned wars. There was a war in heaven between his children. God never told you to choose for him which wars to fight.

I've told you "i won't quote God's word for you" if you feel like knowing the correlation you quote it out and i will explain but throwing our pearls at swines, never! Matthew 7:6 smiley

If war broke out in heaven and you think all involved are on God's side there's no need waiting for someone to order you just pick up weapons and start killing people around you.

My own copy of the Bible says Michael the Archangel {Jude 9} who is standing for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1} drove away Satan and demons out of heaven {Revelations 12:7} It's crystal clear that Satan and demons are no longer in God's side because it's written that Satan and his demons are misleading the entire inhabited earth {Revelations 12:9} Jesus said Satan is a KILLER, LIAR and FATHER OF LIES {John 8:44} several times we read in Jesus' thoughts {1 Corinthians 2:16} that he's not on the same page with Satan {Matthew 4:10; 16:23} Paul declared Satan as the God blindfolding many not to gain the knowledge of Christ which is for their salvation {2Corinthians 4:4} and John the apostle wrote that Satan is the evil one! 1John 5:19

So if you're still confused that God never back His worshipers to fight against themselves then i'm sorry for you! wink

Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 8:42am On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I've told you "i won't quote God's word for you" if you feel like knowing the correlation you quote it out and i will explain but throwing our pearls at swines, never! Matthew 7:6 smiley

If war broke out in heaven and you think all involved are on God's side there's no need waiting for someone to order you just pick up weapons and start killing people around you.

My own copy of the Bible says Michael the Archangel {Jude 9} who is standing for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1} drove away Satan and demons out of heaven {Revelations 12:7} It's crystal clear that Satan and demons are no longer in God's side because it's written that Satan and his demons are misleading the entire inhabited earth {Revelations 12:9} Jesus said Satan is a KILLER, LIAR and FATHER OF LIES {John 8:44} several times we read in Jesus' thoughts {1 Corinthians 2:16} that he's not on the same page with Satan {Matthew 4:10; 16:23} Paul declared Satan as the God blindfolding many not to gain the knowledge of Christ which is for their salvation {2Corinthians 4:4} and John the apostle wrote that Satan is the evil one! 1John 5:19

So if you're still confused that God never back His worshipers to fight against themselves
then i'm sorry for you! wink

Don't you see how conflicted you are? In the past, you claimed God was against war but now you say God is against wars between his people.
So at last we both agree, God has nothing against war and he never taught that his people should not fight. That is completely a JW teaching.
God has supported many wars. But your point is that, God only supports so kind of wars is not in the bible. There is no punishment for fighting for your country.
Stop creating a sin where there is not

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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 11:30am On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I've told you "i won't quote God's word for you" if you feel like knowing the correlation you quote it out and i will explain but throwing our pearls at swines, never! Matthew 7:6 smiley

If war broke out in heaven and you think all involved are on God's side there's no need waiting for someone to order you just pick up weapons and start killing people around you.

My own copy of the Bible says Michael the Archangel {Jude 9} who is standing for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1} drove away Satan and demons out of heaven {Revelations 12:7} It's crystal clear that Satan and demons are no longer in God's side because it's written that Satan and his demons are misleading the entire inhabited earth {Revelations 12:9} Jesus said Satan is a KILLER, LIAR and FATHER OF LIES {John 8:44} several times we read in Jesus' thoughts {1 Corinthians 2:16} that he's not on the same page with Satan {Matthew 4:10; 16:23} Paul declared Satan as the God blindfolding many not to gain the knowledge of Christ which is for their salvation {2Corinthians 4:4} and John the apostle wrote that Satan is the evil one! 1John 5:19

So if you're still confused that God never back His worshipers to fight against themselves then i'm sorry for you! wink
Why don't we summarize.
As a JW, it's not ok to go to war against your members. But it's ok to war against your neighbors. And if your members go against your God, it's ok to war against them and even take their lives as in the case of Benjamin and the war in heaven. Am I correct in my summary?

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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:08pm On Feb 19, 2023
Why do you quoted and respond twice, thrice even four times to just a single post? smiley

Ọmọ the truth is not easy to criticize because it will continue to hit you really hard to the point that you will no longer feel at ease. Hebrews 4:12

So humble yourself and learn!

When God created the heavens and earth He never planned for His children to fight and kill one another, Satan introduced politics which is rebellion against God so it's rebellion that led to fighting and killings.

God later promised that His worshipers will later use His word to settle all their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons {Isaiah 2:2-4} this will lead them to worshiping like one global family as they speak in harmony {Zephaniah 3:9 compare to John 17:22} which is what we are all witnessing among Jehovah's Witnesses today!

So if you wish like fighting and killing nobody stops you from raping your neighbour's wife so that war could start through your action! wink

tctrills:

Don't you see how conflicted you are? In the past, you claimed God was against war but now you say God is against wars between his people. So at last we both agree, God has nothing against war and he never taught that his people should not fight. That is completely a JW teaching. God has supported many wars. But your point is that, God only supports so kind of wars is not in the bible. There is no punishment for fighting for your country.
Stop creating a sin where there is not

tctrills:

Why don't we summarize.
As a JW, it's not ok to go to war against your members. But it's ok to war against your neighbors. And if your members go against your God, it's ok to war against them and even take their lives as in the case of Benjamin and the war in heaven. Am I correct in my summary?

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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 2:52pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Why do you quoted and respond twice, thrice even four times to just a single post? smiley

Ọmọ the truth is not easy to criticize because it will continue to hit you really hard to the point that you will no longer feel at ease. Hebrews 4:12

So humble yourself and learn!

When God created the heavens and earth He never planned for His children to fight and kill one another, Satan introduced politics which is rebellion against God so it's rebellion that led to fighting and killings.

God later promised that His worshipers will later use His word to settle all their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons {Isaiah 2:2-4} this will lead them to worshiping like one global family as they speak in harmony {Zephaniah 3:9 compare to John 17:22} which is what we are all witnessing among Jehovah's Witnesses today!

So if you wish like fighting and killing nobody stops you from raping your neighbour's wife so that war could start through your action! wink



So again, you are saying that wars God's wars ended in the old testament and from then, the children of God would never fight even against their neighbors?
Yes the bible prophecied of a time when there would be no more war but you claim such a time already began? When did it begin?
You also left one little detail out of the verse you quoted in Isaiah 2.
Verse 1. The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
This was a prophecy that would take place in Jerusalem. Clearly the time of the prophecy has not come.
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:03pm On Feb 19, 2023
tctrills:

So again, you are saying that wars God's wars ended in the old testament and from then, the children of God would never fight even against their neighbors?
Yes the bible prophecied of a time when there would be no more war but you claim such a time already began? When did it begin?
You also left one little detail out of the verse you quoted in Isaiah 2.
Verse 1. The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
This was a prophecy that would take place in Jerusalem. Clearly the time of the prophecy has not come.

So Jesus' order for his disciples to love their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} love their fellow believers as he loves them {John 13:34-35} and to love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} all are for Judeans who unanimously rejected him {John 1:11-12} and they must love him despite over 2000 years that the Israelites scattered {Luke 11:23} and the remnant Jews never accepted him as the Messiah (Christ)

Ọmọ continue in your faithlessness but for the benefit of other followers i will respond to the point of Isaiah's prophecy to Judah and Jerusalem.

There are twelve tribes of the sons of Israel and all the promises of God for the salvation of mankind belongs to the twelve tribes of Israel as a whole because God promised to make the nation a nation of priests! Exodus 19:5
God's promises to the nation of Israel was tied to their obedience so it's not something that's automatic. Later the nation as a whole broke into two regions the ten tribes in the northern region of Israel later became known as Samaritans and the southern region became known as Jews.
The Samaritans abandoned God's temple and started worshiping other gods so God began directing all the good promises to only the Jews, that's why the later prophets in the Bible directed all the promises of God to only the Jews Jesus later told a Samaritan woman at Jacob's well {John 4:12} that they've lost God's favour so all the promises of God belongs only to the Jews! John 4:20-22

But instead of the Jews to welcome the Christ with open hands they maltreated him and killed all the fine prophecies God directed to their region so Jesus confirmed that the promises has been given to another nation {Matthew 21:43} and instead of glory Jerusalem has been condemned for turning against the Christ {Matthew 23:37-38} the day Jesus was wrongly accused, judged, sentenced and executed all on false charges in Jerusalem Jesus told the women crying after him that they should cry for the future of Jerusalem because the nation has lost it! Luke 23:38

So all the promises you're reading in the Bible book of Isaiah is not for that faithless nation anymore but for faithful people throughout the earth that comes under one umbrella to put faith in the God of Abraham {Isaiah 2:2} by making His words their constitution among themselves {Isaiah 2:3} because God's Holy Spirit will dwell with them they will produce the fruitage expected of the nation of Israel {Matthew 7:16-18} which is using what they found in God's word to settle all their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons totally among themselves! Isaiah 2:4

So if you're still expecting the nation that rejected Jesus as Christ to come back and fulfil what they totally rejected i'm sorry for you! smiley
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 5:12pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


So Jesus' order for his disciples to love their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} love their fellow believers as he loves them {John 13:34-35} and to love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} all are for Judeans who unanimously rejected him {John 1:11-12} and they must love him despite over 2000 years that the Israelites scattered {Luke 11:23} and the remnant Jews never accepted him as the Messiah (Christ)

Ọmọ continue in your faithlessness but for the benefit of other followers i will respond to the point of Isaiah's prophecy to Judah and Jerusalem.

There are twelve tribes of the sons of Israel and all the promises of God for the salvation of mankind belongs to the twelve tribes of Israel as a whole because God promised to make the nation a nation of priests! Exodus 19:5
God's promises to the nation of Israel was tied to their obedience so it's not something that's automatic. Later the nation as a whole broke into two regions the ten tribes in the northern region of Israel later became known as Samaritans and the southern region became known as Jews.
The Samaritans abandoned God's temple and started worshiping other gods so God began directing all the good promises to only the Jews, that's why the later prophets in the Bible directed all the promises of God to only the Jews Jesus later told a Samaritan woman at Jacob's well {John 4:12} that they've lost God's favour so all the promises of God belongs only to the Jews! John 4:20-22

But instead of the Jews to welcome the Christ with open hands they maltreated him and killed all the fine prophecies God directed to their region so Jesus confirmed that the promises has been given to another nation {Matthew 21:43} and instead of glory Jerusalem has been condemned for turning against the Christ {Matthew 23:37-38} the day Jesus was wrongly accused, judged, sentenced and executed all on false charges in Jerusalem Jesus told the women crying after him that they should cry for the future of Jerusalem because the nation has lost it! Luke 23:38

So all the promises you're reading in the Bible book of Isaiah is not for that faithless nation anymore but for faithful people throughout the earth that comes under one umbrella to put faith in the God of Abraham {Isaiah 2:2} by making His words their constitution among themselves {Isaiah 2:3} because God's Holy Spirit will dwell with them they will produce the fruitage expected of the nation of Israel {Matthew 7:16-18} which is using what they found in God's word to settle all their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons totally among themselves! Isaiah 2:4

So if you're still expecting the nation that rejected Jesus as Christ to come back and fulfil what they totally rejected i'm sorry for you! smiley
But then, according to JW, the war in heaven took place in 1914 after Jesus has commanded love of our enemies and neighbors so the prayer thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven did not count?
Was God's will only for peace on earth and civil war in heaven?

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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:00pm On Feb 19, 2023
tctrills:

But then, according to JW, the war in heaven took place in 1914 after Jesus has commanded love of our enemies and neighbors so the prayer thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven did not count? Was God's will only for peace on earth and civil war in heaven?
Go and worship with your kind, after all you have your own church as you said.

If you read in the Bible that war took place in heaven but that was the first and last doesn't that implies the earth will also experience such SPIRITUAL WAR where only Archangel Michael and his angels will finish badness once and for all time just as it occurred in heaven?

Ọmọ go and worship with your kind if you're not ready to humble yourself and learn! smiley

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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 10:15pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Go and worship with your kind, after all you have your own church as you said.

If you read in the Bible that war took place in heaven but that was the first and last doesn't that implies the earth will also experience such SPIRITUAL WAR where only Archangel Michael and his angels will finish badness once and for all time just as it occurred in heaven?

Ọmọ go and worship with your kind if you're not ready to humble yourself and learn! smiley
Now you are not making sense. If God's children could fight in heaven then all you have said is incorrect. Yes we know it was the first and only war but how does that even matter. The war in heaven shows that you have been wrong all along.

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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:22pm On Feb 19, 2023
tctrills:

Now you are not making sense. If God's children could fight in heaven then all you have said is incorrect. Yes we know it was the first and only war but how does that even matter. The war in heaven shows that you have been wrong all along.

Wrong that WAR means disagreement whereas God doesn't work with disagreement shey? 1Corinthians 14:33
If your God approves you to go and kill your fellow believers that's your own God not mine! John 8:44 wink
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 11:26pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Wrong that WAR means disagreement whereas God doesn't work with disagreement shey? 1Corinthians 14:33
If your God approves you to go and kill your fellow believers that's your own God not mine! John 8:44 wink
You claim there was a war in heaven in 1914. So it's the same thing. It was a war between the sons of God. It was not a minor disagreement are you want us to believe. The war had eternal consequences for God's children.
Again which war is more damaging? A war that only destroys the flesh or one that destroys the soul in hell fire?
So your story does not check out. Did your God support war or not?
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:41am On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

You claim there was a war in heaven in 1914. So it's the same thing. It was a war between the sons of God. It was not a minor disagreement are you want us to believe. The war had eternal consequences for God's children.
Again which war is more damaging? A war that only destroys the flesh or one that destroys the soul in hell fire?
So your story does not check out. Did your God support war or not?

God's children go to war against themselves shey? cheesy

Why not worship with the demons since they are also children of your own God?

For your information God never had any child the reason why He claim His creatures as children is because they were created in His likeness {Genesis 1:26-28} and as long as they're ready to do his will they remain His children {John 1:11-12} but if they going against His will God denounce them! Deuteronomy 32:5

So stop deceiving yourself God only adopt those doing His will as children as for Satan, his demons and human agents Jesus declared that they're not God's children! John 8:41-44 wink

Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 7:24am On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


God's children go to war against themselves shey? cheesy

Why not worshiping with the demons since they are also children of your own God?

For your information God never had any child the reason why He claim His creatures as children is because they were created in His likeness {Genesis 1:26-28} and as long as they're ready to do his will they remain His children {John 1:11-12} but if they going against His will God denounce them! Deuteronomy 32:5

So stop deceiving yourself God only adopt those doing His will as children as for Satan, his demons and human agents Jesus declared that they're not God's children! John 8:41-44 wink
As you said, it seems we worship different God's. I would not call your God a hypocrite but let's just say he is inconsistent. He tells his Jw that war is a sin while he endoses a war in his heaven.
My own God is not a hypocrite. He promises that a time would come when all wars would cease but he never pretended that war is a sin and yet endorsed war.
As for us not being God's children, please argue with your bible. I prefer to believe the bible than to believe you. The bible states that man is the offspring of God. Do you know the meaning of offspring? An offspring is not an adopted child.
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53am On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

As you said, it seems we worship different God's. I would not call your God a hypocrite but let's just say he is inconsistent. He tells his Jw that war is a sin while he endoses a war in his heaven.
My own God is not a hypocrite. He promises that a time would come when all wars would cease but he never pretended that war is a sin and yet endorsed war.
As for us not being God's children, please argue with your bible. I prefer to believe the bible than to believe you. The bible states that man is the offspring of God. Do you know the meaning of offspring? An offspring is not an adopted child.

Both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth called some humans offspring of serpent {Matthew 3:7; 23:33} that's true about them because they followed the attitude of Satan the original serpent {Revelations 12:9} not that Satan created or give birth to them! cheesy

Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 7:56am On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth called some humans offspring of serpent {Matthew 3:7; 23:33} that's true about them because they followed the attitude of Satan the original serpent {Revelations 12:9} not that Satan created or give birth to them! cheesy
I read the verses. They never called man offsprings of serpent's. You don't need to lie. Man was not begotten by serpents. Please stop the dishonesty
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:57am On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

I read the verses. They never called man offsprings of serpent's. You don't need to lie. Man was not begotten by serpents. Please stop the dishonesty

Oya quote where God's word called humans offsprings of God nah! cheesy

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."Genesis 3:15 ~NIV

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel" NWT


wink
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 8:03am On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Oya quote where God's word called humans offsprings of God nah! cheesy
By now you should have know that I am not dishonest with the scriptures.
If I tell you something is in the scriptures just take it.
Acts 17.29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Now argue with the bible.
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:08pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

By now you should have know that I am not dishonest with the scriptures.
If I tell you something is in the scriptures just take it.
Acts 17.29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Now argue with the bible.

“Therefore, since we are the children (offspring) of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and design of humans" NWT





So what about the offspring of serpent? Matthew 3:7; 23:33
Are they also born by serpents? smiley
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 1:24pm On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


“Therefore, since we are the children (offspring) of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and design of humans" NWT





So what about the offspring of serpent? Matthew 3:7; 23:33
Are they also born by serpents? smiley
Oga Matthew never called us offspring of serpent. Please be honest with the way you quote the scriptures. No verse said man is the offspring of serpent. Please stop the dishonesty already.

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Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:26pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

Oga Matthew never called us offspring of serpent. Please be honest with the way you quote the scriptures. No verse said man is the offspring of serpent. Please stop the dishonesty already.

Oya quote what is written in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33 nah! smiley

MATIU 3:7
Ṣugbọn nigbati o ri ọ̀pọ awọn Farisi ati Sadusi wá si baptismu rẹ̀, o wi fun wọn pe, Ẹnyin ọmọ paramọlẹ, tali o kìlọ fun nyin lati sá kuro ninu ibinu ti mbọ̀?
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?


For your information the bolded in red means offsprings or children of serpent.

So i ask you again "did Satan bear children?" wink
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 1:33pm On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Oya quote what is written in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33 nah! smiley

MATIU 3:7
Ṣugbọn nigbati o ri ọ̀pọ awọn Farisi ati Sadusi wá si baptismu rẹ̀, o wi fun wọn pe, Ẹnyin ọmọ paramọlẹ, tali o kìlọ fun nyin lati sá kuro ninu ibinu ti mbọ̀?
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?


For your information the bolded in red means offsprings or children.

So i ask you again "did Satan bear children?" wink
Stop being foolish. You know I don't understand Yoruba. And we both know you have access to an English bible. Clearly you are not a transparent person.
Just so you know, I used google translate and it shows you are lying as usual
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:40pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

Stop being foolish. You know I don't understand Yoruba. And we both know you have access to an English bible. Clearly you are not a transparent person.
Just so you know, I used google translate and it shows you are lying as usual

I said "quote what you found in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33"
Let everyone see who is lying nah!

I quoted the KJV Yorùbá translation for others to see that God's word called humans both God's children as well as Satan's children! John 8:44

So who has been arguing with the Bible now? cheesy
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 1:51pm On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I said "quote what you found in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33"
Let everyone see who is lying nah!

I quoted the KJV Yorùbá translation for others to see that God's word called humans both God's children as well as Satan's children! John 8:44

So who has been arguing with the Bible now? cheesy
We were having a Debate in English. You thought you could out smart me by going to your Yoruba bible. When would you learn that you can never deceive me. I am not you gullible members.
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:17pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

We were having a Debate in English. You thought you could out smart me by going to your Yoruba bible. When would you learn that you can never deceive me. I am not you gullible members.

Ọmọ forget all these STORY and quote what is found written in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33

"When e see many Pharisee people and Sadducee people wey de come where e de baptize people, e come ask them say: “Una wey be children of vipers, who warn una say make una run comot from the punishment wey God de bring?" Matthew 3:7

Your dodging styles won't work now! wink
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 2:50pm On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ forget all these STORY and quote what is found written in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33

"When e see many Pharisee people and Sadducee people wey de come where e de baptize people, e come ask them say: “Una wey be children of vipers, who warn una say make una run comot from the punishment wey God de bring?" Matthew 3:7

Your dodging styles won't work now! wink
See how criminal you are? So you knew that the bible called certain people children of vipers so why lie? Why did you claim that the bible called them offsprings of vipers.
Now you would pretend you don't know the difference so let me tell you. One could be a child by adoption but an offspring is a child you reproduce. There is a big difference. So the bible never called some people the offspring of vipers as you claimed. Stop the dishonesty.
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:43pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

See how criminal you are? So you knew that the bible called certain people children of vipers so why lie? Why did you claim that the bible called them offsprings of vipers.
Now you would pretend you don't know the difference so let me tell you. One could be a child by adoption but an offspring is a child you reproduce. There is a big difference. So the bible never called some people the offspring of vipers as you claimed. Stop the dishonesty.

Ọmọ offspring and children means the same thing stop lying so the Bible called humans offsprings of both God and Satan!

God never birthed anyone he created us all so only those ready to do His will are called His children (offspring) {John 1:11-12} as for those that turned away from His righteous decrees He denounce them! Deuteronomy 32:5 wink
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 4:13pm On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ offspring and children means the same thing stop lying so the Bible called humans offsprings of both God and Satan!

God never birthed anyone he created us all so only those ready to do His will are called His children (offspring) {John 1:11-12} as for those that turned away from His righteous decrees He denounce them! Deuteronomy 32:5 wink
Stop pretending to be daft. If you adopt a child he is not you offspring.
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:34pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

Stop pretending to be daft. If you adopt a child he is not you offspring.

You're the daft one here because God never birthed anyone so the word offspring in God's word in relation to God or Satan simply means the attitude or qualities of the person you reflect as a person.
So those who reflect God's qualities are called His offspring and those that reflects the traits of Satan are regarded as his offsprings.
That's why Jesus keeps emphasizing on the qualities he took after his father the only true God! smiley
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 5:37pm On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


You're the daft one here because God never birthed anyone so the word offspring in God's word in relation to God or Satan simply means the attitude or qualities of the person you reflect as a person.
So those who reflect God's qualities are called His offspring and those that reflects the traits of Satan are regarded as his offsprings.
That's why Jesus keeps emphasizing on the qualities he took after his father the only true God! smiley
I choose to believe Paul over you. Reflection of ones traits does not make you his offspring.
To prove you are lying as usual, the people Paul was speaking to were not even followers of Christ yet he acknowledged that we all are offsprings of God.
The people of Athens did not reflect God's traits yet they were offsprings of God. To lie no dey tire you?
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:46pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

I choose to believe Paul over you. Reflection of ones traits does not make you his offspring.
To prove you are lying as usual, the people Paul was speaking to were not even followers of Christ yet he acknowledged that we all are offsprings of God.
The people of Athens did not reflect God's traits yet they were offsprings of God. To lie no dey tire you?

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

All humans aren't qualified to be called God's children after the event in the garden of Eden {Romans 3:23} but when someone humbles himself to learn what God's righteousness means God takes him in as His child {Zephaniah 2:2-3} as for arrogant people like you who can't subject themselves to any form of rules binding on others you can't cross the line! Luke 16:26 wink
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by tctrills: 5:49pm On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

All humans aren't qualified to be called God's children after the event in the garden of Eden {Romans 3:23} but when someone humbles himself to learn what God's righteousness means God takes him in as His child {Zephaniah 2:2-3} as for arrogant people like you who can't subject themselves to any form of rules binding on others you can't cross the line! Luke 16:26 wink
When you talk of humility, that's what you lack. An Apostle of God teaches that we are all offsprings of God but some guy named MaxInDHouse says Paul is wrong. Do you even know the meaning of humility? Stop asking me to be humble because you have no idea of the meaning of that word.
Re: Faith, Changes & Tolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25pm On Feb 20, 2023
tctrills:

When you talk of humility, that's what you lack. An Apostle of God teaches that we are all offsprings of God but some guy named MaxInDHouse says Paul is wrong. Do you even know the meaning of humility? Stop asking me to be humble because you have no idea of the meaning of that word.

You can define humility anyhow you want but one thing is sure:
If you can't present any group of people with whom you've subjected yourself to the same rules and code of conduct ọmọ you're really an arrogant person.

When Jesus said we should search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} he was actually referring to humble humans who have subjected themselves but to the wrong group so we search for them and bring them to God's organization.
If i'm not humble do you think i will subject myself to the teaching of any group?
Well just like you all religions are scamming people so they don't worth subjecting to.

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley

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