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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:26pm On Feb 20, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

Just show him videos of Socrates, tell him Socrates was a medical doctor while playing in multiple WCs. Adokie Amasemaka was a law student while playing for Nigeria, he even became AG of his state, mathematical Segun finished from the polytechnic, Felix Owolabi has a PhD, Bonucci has a masters, Olofinjana has a masters etc. Long story short, he should try to do both. Infact you can use carrot and stick, with football has the carrot to be enjoyed but the condition is, he must perform well in school. Good luck Baba Oloye!!!

That a very good idea my man. Thanks.

I will take note of this.

The initial carrot and stick I wanted to use was, he must be better than Ronaldo, Messi and Pele before I can allow him to take football as profession else no way, but the boy tell me say him better pass all of them. Na dere I began to think about him going for trail because of his confidence.

Now, I will adopt your formula because the boy doesn't really have interest in studying though Automobile engineer is his second option.

✋ thanks alaye.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:32pm On Feb 20, 2023
Rivers United defeating ASEC Mimosas of Ivory Coast in the Confed Cup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4iKpTduCns

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:32pm On Feb 20, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

Though I don't like betting but the betnaija guy is truly a visionary!! If we can have more like him, our football will drastically improve in a little while. Even basketball too and for other sports.

He has an airline called Valuejet and other businesses but that betting na number 1.

That place is world class. I no go lie. His u15 won NPFL u-15 tournament last year.

The club has prospect to redeem Nigeria lost glory in Africa Champions league.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:38pm On Feb 20, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
Instead of NFF to send young talented coaches in Nigeria to earn advanced licenses in Europe, they will be passing the teams to their friends to coach.

You may find this hard to believe even comprehend, but getting a UEFA A license doesn't make you a great coach.

Coaching football and managing the team are two different skill sets. Some people possess both.

Your UEFA A license is a bit like a driver's license, you pass your test and you can now legally drive. But your not a great driver.

Experience, adaptation, exposure and understanding will increase your capacity and improve you.

I've met many useless coaches with UEFA A licenses and many who are exceptional as well. And some who did not have the license but were way better.

What I would say , exposure to different environments, participative involvement in different clubs and leagues will absolutely help to improve you as a coach not just the UEFA A license.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 3:20pm On Feb 20, 2023
forgiveness:


That a very good idea my man. Thanks.

I will take note of this.

The initial carrot and stick I wanted to use was, he must be better than Ronaldo, Messi and Pele before I can allow him to take football as profession else no way, but the boy tell me say him better pass all of them. Na dere I began to think about him going for trail because of his confidence.

Now, I will adopt your formula because the boy doesn't really have interest in studying though Automobile engineer is his second option.

✋ thanks alaye.
My 10 year old also likes football, he's trying but he is not a Messi or Okocha. A condition for playing the small league in my city here in obodo oyinbo is God grades, bad grades, no soccer, dazall!! And really here in the US, that's what they do for guys playing sports for their schools, right from JSS, to be part of the school team, there are minimum grades they must get. I totally understand your thinking as a parent too, yes professional players make a ton of money, but for every 1 successful player you see, there are thousands if not more that failed. The chances of making it through professional sports is very very slim, hence not a bad idea to have a backup plan tbh.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:23pm On Feb 20, 2023
The Enyimba Elephants have fallen cheesy

Me personally I wouldn't take this level of disrespect grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:59pm On Feb 20, 2023
forgiveness:



Well, I wanted to be sure if he really got the talent to execell before he embarks on this journey but now I know, I am seeking God's guidance.

I am also aware that he could go against me since I be em father na. grin Omo ti ekun ba ekun ni jo. grin

That was another reason I jejelly took himself to the academy before it gets to that stage.

So, for now, he understands I am supporting him but on condition he must finish schooling.

Make election finish before I see wetin go happen.

Thanks baba.
I remember you asked about good academy sometimes ago...since you want education,why not try Kwara football academy.They have very sound school curriculum with good environment.The school principal is a brother who don’t joke with academic.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by etebefia: 4:31pm On Feb 20, 2023
BascoVanVeli:
The Enyimba Elephants have fallen cheesy

Me personally I wouldn't take this level of disrespect grin

I love this... More Nigerian clubs should active on Social Media.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:59pm On Feb 20, 2023
Shooting Stars vs Akwa United


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyMRB9v-QYE

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:20pm On Feb 20, 2023
forgiveness:


He has an airline called Valuejet and other businesses but that betting na number 1.

That place is world class. I no go lie. His u15 won NPFL u-15 tournament last year.

The club has prospect to redeem Nigeria lost glory in Africa Champions league.


You mean Kunle Soname is also the owner of Fly Valuejet?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:39pm On Feb 20, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

My 10 year old also likes football, he's trying but he is not a Messi or Okocha. A condition for playing the small league in my city here in obodo oyinbo is God grades, bad grades, no soccer, dazall!! And really here in the US, that's what they do for guys playing sports for their schools, right from JSS, to be part of the school team, there are minimum grades they must get. I totally understand your thinking as a parent too, yes professional players make a ton of money, but for every 1 successful player you see, there are thousands if not more that failed. The chances of making it through professional sports is very very slim, hence not a bad idea to have a backup plan tbh.

You understood what I am thinking. Me wey don follow players for decades and saw many failed along the line go fear for him.

Backup plan is very necessary.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:40pm On Feb 20, 2023
Kog45:
I remember you asked about good academy sometimes ago...since you want education,why not try Kwara football academy.They have very sound school curriculum with good environment.The school principal is a brother who don’t joke with academic.

Baba, that place far ooo. I will look for one around. Thanks for your advice, baba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:41pm On Feb 20, 2023
Danielnino00:



You mean Kunle Soname is also the owner of Fly Valuejet?



Yes ooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:45pm On Feb 20, 2023
Where is Osimhen trending grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:42pm On Feb 20, 2023
Aina and Okereke both start Desserts on the bench

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:20pm On Feb 20, 2023
Danielnino00:
Since the news of Atsu death came out, all I've been reading about him are how much of a wonderful person he was .. mehn, the guy really helped people...

May his soul rest in peace!

Even danilo of juventus have alot to say about him despite not spending many years with him

Crazy clown said atsu took care of his Tution fee at Ukraine university and made sure he graduated

Mehn my bro ,this life got me speechless recently

I don’t even know my tomorrow nor my next destination

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:27pm On Feb 20, 2023
andrew444:


Even danilo of juventus have alot to say about him despite not spending many years with him

Crazy clown said atsu took care of his Tution fee at Ukraine university and made sure he graduated

Mehn my bro ,this life got me speechless recently

I don’t even know my tomorrow nor my next destination

My brother, this life is short..we don't know what it holds for us...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 10:46pm On Feb 20, 2023
I have observed something from the CAF U20 groups at Egypt 2023. Strong football nations like Egypt, Senegal and Nigeria were grouped in A. Congo, South Sudan, Uganda & CAR were grouped in B. Why?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 2:46am On Feb 21, 2023
komekn:


You may find this hard to believe even comprehend, but getting a UEFA A license doesn't make you a great coach.

Coaching football and managing the team are two different skill sets. Some people possess both.

Your UEFA A license is a bit like a driver's license, you pass your test and you can now legally drive. But your not a great driver.

Experience, adaptation, exposure and understanding will increase your capacity and improve you.

I've met many useless coaches with UEFA A licenses and many who are exceptional as well. And some who did not have the license but were way better.

What I would say , exposure to different environments, participative involvement in different clubs and leagues will absolutely help to improve you as a coach not just the UEFA A license.




A degree is your first experience.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:28am On Feb 21, 2023
forgiveness:


Amen! Thanks.

I think so too. That's why I am thinking of getting a club closer to me or look for school nearby. After election, I will see what happens. Although I prefer the place ooo.

Football career na 50/50 and it has short life span. That's why I am emphasizing he goes to school while playing football.

I don't know if footballers are born ❓

What I do know is environmental factors, socio-cultural dynamics impact and learned abilities. And then there are natural affinities.

Brazilian's have the samba dance 🩰 and it really gives you a skill set at a very early age where you can move your feet 🐾 super fast. Football is a dance , particularly the dribbling skill. Ajax introduced dancing as part of their training programme.

Michael Beale was the U12 Development coach at Liverpool FC. Arsen Wenger explained that the tacit skills associated with dribbling, first touch, etc are all developed very early that's before 13.

An academy will teach you a whole lot. But the greatest teaching comes from your environment and at the head of that is your parents.

So spending copious amounts of time playing with your children in the park , having fun and doing football tricks, skills, etc, sons trying to outskill Daddy night and day is the greatest teacher. Boys will take those lessons and play street football ⚽ with their mates and further develop those skills to become an expression that is unique to him, your son. He may at this stage have a nickname like, ZZ. This is the beginning.

Abedi Pele sons spent so much time with their Father in Ghana at his academy, he transferred so much to them. When they went to Marseille they already had their own distinct football ID. The rest is history.

I know some Nigerian international who were exceptional players but didn't spend enough time with their children. They brought their kids to England, l couldn't bring them to any academy, the Academies were ready to take them immediately assuming skill transfer to children and Daddy's name. In my opinion it would have been shambolic for those kids and painfully embarrassing. So l didn't take them.

If you can play 🐾football ⚽ score goals 🥅 with your children and create happy bonds and transfer a unique identity 🆔 and football ability that no academy can teach them. That transfer of skill includes Fathers values, discipline, diligence, respect, application, humility ,and the fear of God 🛐.

That will make your son successful at football, successful in School as well as a true Fathers son and create an everlasting bond.

Bukayo Saka had excellent results at school but he took a character from home to Arsenal Academy.

Now if you know sabe play ball ⚽ Ah well you will have to find another way, sorry .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:36am On Feb 21, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
A degree is your first experience.

Are you talking about football or something else.

A degree gives you an analytical expression that is transferrable to football coaching assessment and strategy, yes.

But it's not the first ,it's just among the many attributes that can help you but it's not 🚫 the FIRST.

Quite a lot if not most don't have university degrees.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:41am On Feb 21, 2023
andrew444:


Even danilo of juventus have alot to say about him despite not spending many years with him

Crazy clown said atsu took care of his Tution fee at Ukraine university and made sure he graduated

Mehn my bro ,this life got me speechless recently

I don’t even know my tomorrow nor my next destination

When he was at Everton I got to meet him ,his humility unquestionable and his willingness to help amazing.

I think he was a practicing Christian.

When he left Everton to Newcastle we were no longer seeing each other often, but I could see he was a really nice God fearing Dude.

RIP

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 8:50am On Feb 21, 2023
Was really heartbreaking watching his girlfriend and his kids in the stands during Newcastle's game at the weekend.

May God sustain and comfort his family during this trying time for them.

RIP Christian Atsu.

komekn:


When he was at Everton I got to meet him ,his humility unquestionable and his willingness to help amazing.

I think he was a practicing Christian.

When he left Everton to Newcastle we were no longer seeing each other often, but I could see he was a really nice God fearing Dude.

RIP

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:02am On Feb 21, 2023
komekn:


I don't know if footballers are born ❓

What I do know is environmental factors, socio-cultural dynamics impact and learned abilities. And then there are natural affinities.

Brazilian's have the samba dance 🩰 and it really gives you a skill set at a very early age where you can move your feet 🐾 super fast. Football is a dance , particularly the dribbling skill. Ajax introduced dancing as part of their training programme.

Michael Beale was the U12 Development coach at Liverpool FC. Arsen Wenger explained that the tacit skills associated with dribbling, first touch, etc are all developed very early that's before 13.

An academy will teach you a whole lot. But the greatest teaching comes from your environment and at the head of that is your parents.

So spending copious amounts of time playing with your children in the park , having fun and doing football tricks, skills, etc, sons trying to outskill Daddy night and day is the greatest teacher. Boys will take those lessons and play street football ⚽ with their mates and further develop those skills to become an expression that is unique to him, your son. He may at this stage have a nickname like, ZZ. This is the beginning.

Abedi Pele sons spent so much time with their Father in Ghana at his academy, he transferred so much to them. When they went to Marseille they already had their own distinct football ID. The rest is history.

I know some Nigerian international who were exceptional players but didn't spend enough time with their children. They brought their kids to England, l couldn't bring them to any academy, the Academies were ready to take them immediately assuming skill transfer to children and Daddy's name. In my opinion it would have been shambolic for those kids and painfully embarrassing. So l didn't take them.

If you can play 🐾football ⚽ score goals 🥅 with your children and create happy bonds and transfer a unique identity 🆔 and football ability that no academy can teach them. That transfer of skill includes Fathers values, discipline, diligence, respect, application, humility ,and the fear of God 🛐.

That will make your son successful at football, successful in School as well as a true Fathers son and create an everlasting bond.

Bukayo Saka had excellent results at school but he took a character from home to Arsenal Academy.

Now if you know sabe play ball ⚽ Ah well you will have to find another way, sorry .


I totally agree with you on this. As a matter of fact, that is what I did with him when he started walking. I would dribble him all around in my living room while he cried and attempted to get the ball.

I also tried to make him use both feet from that age but the boy changed from his right to his left foot.

Later when he was 5 or 6 years old, I started teaching him how to shoot with different techniques. i.e how to score goal by practicing penalty shoot out with him. I made sure he is the goalkeeper because I wanted him to experience and feel the deception that comes with shooting (a feign shots and slow shots). Then I gave him the chance to try the techniques out on me as the goalkeeper.

I noticed that was how he learnt his shooting techniques because I saw my skills trait in him.

Later, I allowed him to play in the compound with boys on our street. I noticed his dribbling skills improved because Aba boys sabi play ball.

In fact, what you said is true. One of his friend at Aba then didn't know how to play ball at 7 years but as he continued to play football on the street and park his skills improved dramatically at 10 - 11 years old.

Environmental factor and social culture dynamic impact play major role in football development.

Nowadays, I don't have time ooo but I will start again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:06am On Feb 21, 2023
komekn:


When he was at Everton I got to meet him ,his humility unquestionable and his willingness to help amazing.

I think he was a practicing Christian.

When he left Everton to Newcastle we were no longer seeing each other often, but I could see he was a really nice God fearing Dude.

RIP

Wow

May his soul Rest In Peace
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by orriyomi33(m): 3:23pm On Feb 21, 2023
Victor Osimhen in this video said he started out as a defender.


https://fb.watch/iQz5Wm7q_F/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 4:58pm On Feb 21, 2023
komekn:


Are you talking about football or something else.

A degree gives you an analytical expression that is transferrable to football coaching assessment and strategy, yes.

But it's not the first ,it's just among the many attributes that can help you but it's not 🚫 the FIRST.

Quite a lot if not most don't have university degrees.

I'm not talking university degrees. To gain experience in coaching you have to start with the license at least. It's your first experience. You need formal education first before you start building experience.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:08pm On Feb 21, 2023
komekn:


First of all you are making the very basic skill set of "long ball" distribution as some high level unattainable skill set.

In reality it's a basic skill set not an outstanding exceptional one, players who have a far better array of skill sets resort it to it now and again not continuously. We have not descended to the leve of playing police game.

In this regard any Nigerian midfield player that is playing in the EPL, Championship and League one are better options than him .

Any Nigerian Midfielder playing in the top 10 leagues of Europe is a better option.

Consider that one of our best Midfielders in recent times Etebo plays in the Greek Super league and thats rated 20 in Europe.

The Segundo is very very low standard to use the term quality is an over statement, with regards to the Segundo division.

For a direct example I would say all the midfielders in Sheffield Wednesday in league one are better than him. For example ;

Adeshina Bakinson
Fisayo Dele-Bashiru
Dennis Adeniran

What's remarkable but not to me Fisayo is wanted by several EPL teams with AC Milan, PSV expressing an interest among other across Europe.

I watched him play for Manchester City against Liverpool FC U21 and he was the outstanding player not Harvey Elliott.

For context a little clip.

https://twitter.com/Carabao_Cup/status/1575797603496697857?s=20&t=aRiqQYXivWHJmT3vXZvfbQ

Long passing is not a basic skill in football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:21pm On Feb 21, 2023
Meliforme:


Long passing is not a basic skill in football.
it is especially for CBs and midfielders
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:58pm On Feb 21, 2023
charlesemeka85:
it is especially for CBs and midfielders

Long passing is not basic to any position played in football, not even for goalkeepers.
First touch, short passing are the basics for all positions. Each position then has skills basic to it, for example for defenders, it is tackling and creating blocks.

As it is with long passing not being a basic skill, so it is with dribbling.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 7:16pm On Feb 21, 2023
orriyomi33:
Victor Osimhen in this video said he started out as a defender.


https://fb.watch/iQz5Wm7q_F/
Guys una sure say no Victor no go higher institution so? He's an eloquent speaker.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 7:59pm On Feb 21, 2023
Meliforme:


Long passing is not basic to any position played in football, not even for goalkeepers.
First touch, short passing are the basics for all positions. Each position then has skills basic to it, for example for defenders, it is tackling and creating blocks.

As it is with long passing not being a basic skill, so it is with dribbling.
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