budaatum:

The fact that the penal code is a part of the criminal code does not tell you that Nigerian law is not based on the penal code as you claimed?

budaatum:

Sharia has very limited application even in states that adopt it. One must give written consent before one can be tried under it, and it's decisions can be challenged in the Supreme Court as has been done numerous times.

CoolUsername:


You're going to need to show me where I made this claim. My claim has always been that certain states follow the penal code. This is a simple fact. Show me where I said that all Nigerian law is based on the penal code.

CoolUsername:
OK, child marriage is cool if they are Muslims. Gotcha.

budaatum:

If a democrat or republican or a neutral person rapes anyone I hope they have their raping tool chopped off.

Jail is not good enough, in my opinion. Though, out of mercy and fact I'm not a fan of the death sentence, jail will have to do.

budaatum:


Are you suggesting I provide you with evidence you claimed Nigerian law is based on the penal code, which is what I contest with you? Perhaps go back and read what you wrote!

CoolUsername:


Allowing child marriage basically means that your are instituting paedophilia into law. Not allowing it is step towards curbing child grooming and child rape culture.

How the hell isn't this common knowledge?

raskymonojendor:

LMAO. This dude is just grasping on straws.
Ogun State, Lagos State, Anambra e.t.c all have the child right act. This has not stopped the massive paedophilia wirinet was talking about.

You think wirinet does not know the child right act existed before making the post abi.

raskymonojendor:

LMAO. This dude is just grasping on straws.
Ogun State, Lagos State, Anambra all have the child right act. This has not stopped the massive paedophilia wirinet was talking about.

CoolUsername:


No please, quote/screenshot where I said 'cause I'm 99% sure that you're just making shxt up at this point. Post the receipts or take your L

Enugurangers:

You were the one trying to obfuscate. You were informed via screenshots that paedophilia is a problem all over Nigeria, so you quickly changed the topic to child marriages, state law, child act, penal law e.t.c. lol.

You could have clearly bolded just the child marriages only and leave out wirinet's other post about paedophilia and child rape. It's also interesting to know that there are child marriages, issues in the south too despite the passing of the Child's right law in some states e.g. Imo state.

muhammaduyusufu:

wirinet did not indeed call a region. The bigot that brought region into the discuss is the coolusername poster.

CoolUsername:


Regional problems need to called out regardless of your hurt feelings.

I'll rather be a bigot speaking up against child rape culture than a tolerant enabler.

muhammaduyusufu:

Regional problems? This thread is filled with screenshots that proves that it's a Nigerian wide problem.
The North is very conservative, and we are still doing away with some old Islamic and cultural traditions.

However, do you agree that paedophilia is a nationwide problem..Yes or No?

muhammaduyusufu:

Regional problems? This thread is filled with screenshots that proves that it's a Nigerian wide problem.
The North is very conservative, and we are still doing away with some old Islamic and cultural traditions.

However, do you agree that paedophilia is a nationwide problem..Yes or No?

raskymonojendor:

I like how you called out that the North was conservative. If you have time, please check out conservative American regions concerning child marriages and paedohilia, you would indeed see that there is not much difference.

budaatum:




I guess it's easy to be ignorant to know that Penal Code and Criminal Code are the same thing.

CoolUsername:


Paedophilia is a global problem. But let's not pretend that northern Nigeria is making the same amount progress as the rest of the country on this issue.

Like, I know it's 1444 according to the Islamic calendar but y'all need to come into the 21st century. And if that offends you, too bad. Child rape culture should be relentlessly criticised, maligned, ridiculed, and mocked. Frankly, the time spent chasing 'bigots' would be better spent chasing paedophiles.

CoolUsername:


Allowing child marriage basically means that your are instituting paedophilia into law. Not allowing it is step towards curbing child grooming and child rape culture.

How the hell isn't this common knowledge?

Enugurangers:

Is this not the same thing people are telling American conservatives to do.

Enugurangers:

Is this not the same thing people are telling American conservatives to do.

raskymonojendor:



Tell me about it. Below was a conservative American governor rejecting ban of paedophilia.

The conservative governor of New Jersey declined to sign a measure into law. Conservative and Republican Chris Christie, a supporter of President Donald Trump, said such a ban would CONFLICT WITH RELIGION CUSTOMS.

I guess myself and coolusername can finally agree on something.

CoolUsername:
To all of you trying to blame the Ohio train derailment on your boogeyman:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-train-derailment-ntsb-chair-issues-plea-spreading/story?id=97281671

@IjeBos 😉

CoolUsername:


Paedophilia is a global problem. But let's not pretend that northern Nigeria is making the same amount progress as the rest of the country on this issue.

Like, I know it's 1444 according to the Islamic calendar but y'all need to come into the 21st century. And if that offends you, too bad. Child rape culture should be relentlessly criticised, maligned, ridiculed, and mocked. Frankly, the time spent chasing 'bigots' would be better spent chasing paedophiles.

IjeBos:


Fam, you've spilled a lot of ink trying to rationalize not being wrong in your initial statement and moving goalposts. Pedophilia is rampant not only in the northern states of Nigeria. And as, someone point out earlier, it's quite odd that a lot of people spend a lot of time here talking about "the pedophilia" problem in the US, whereas the US is globally one of the best in that regard and Nigeria is a multiples of times worse.

CoolUsername:


I spilled a lot of ink because your friend didn't want to admit that he was wrong about the application of the criminal code and penal code in Nigeria

IjeBos:


So, just to get it together. This is a Democratically elected NTSB official trying to tamp town the politicization. That being said, her statement is questionable. Her argument is that the regulation only applied to trains carrying 20+ class 3 flammable cars. And because this train only carried 3 such cars, the regulation wouldn't have impacted this train. Statutorily true, but still some interesting logic.

Let me give you an example, in my company, we order parts for use in development and manufacture, and because there is a cost associated with using certain parts we tend to build around those parts, even though something cheaper may work.

So, her argument is that the train industry wouldn't have eventually upgraded every car, given 1.) the cost of maintaining dual break systems/ parts and 2.) the complexities of scheduling these materials around which cars they can use. And also by killing that rule, it set a ceiling in terms of these types of regulations instead of floor. Meaning with a floor more regulations could have been added. or the implementaion could have been increased.

I'm always open to being wrong. I'll respect her words, but I'm going to wait till other experts weigh in as this reasoning seems somewhat suspect.

FYI, here is a video of Trump cutting regulations, saying he wants them to be lower than the 1960's. Think about all the new technology we've had since the 1960's (cellphones, implantable medical devices, etc etc.) . Regulations are bad until bad things happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykQdG51clqk

benalvino3:



A penal code and a criminal code are both documents that compile the criminal laws of a jurisdiction. The terms are often used interchangeably, but there may be some differences depending on the context.

Penal code may refer to the law that defines what acts are punishable and what penalties can be imposed for those acts. Criminal code may refer to the law that defines what acts are prohibited by the state because they are socially harmful.

However, these definitions are not universal and some jurisdictions may use different terms or meanings for their codes. For example, some countries have a civil code that includes criminal law as well as other areas of law.

IjeBos:


No one was arguing anything about the criminal code and/or the penal code until you brought it up. You may be right about it but I think the point people are making is that it wasn't relative to the initial statement. Anyhow, that's my contribution.. lol.. not to extend this to another few pages.

CoolUsername:


I won't try to deny the fact that many conservatives are ass-backwards in their attitudes and policies.

CoolUsername:


Woah there, are you a railway Engineering expert? You're getting dangerously close to conspiracy theorist territory, comrade. Why are you so interested in what the experts have to say?

This woman has probably studied and trained in this field for years. She knows more about this subject than you. So why are you relying on your own instincts instead of blindly believing everything she says?

IjeBos:


Exactly, because she is one person, no matter her position. Her statements haven't been peer reviewed, hence the "but I'm going to wait till other experts weigh in" part. And, I'm open to her words being validated.
You seem to always fall into the same trap of blindly believing people who's opinions align with yours. You posted a clip of this Democratic appointed NTSB official because her words align with your view. I question everything that sounds suspect to me and then seek out those in the know, and then defer to the consensus. The "and then defer to the consensus" is the key part.

IjeBos:


So, just to get it together. This is a Democratically elected NTSB official trying to tamp town the politicization. That being said, her statement is questionable. Her argument is that the regulation only applied to trains carrying 20+ class 3 flammable cars. And because this train only carried 3 such cars, the regulation wouldn't have impacted this train. Statutorily true, but still some interesting logic.

Let me give you an example, in my company, we order parts for use in development and manufacture, and because there is a cost associated with using certain parts we tend to build around those parts, even though something cheaper may work.

So, her argument is that the train industry wouldn't have eventually upgraded every car, given 1.) the cost of maintaining dual break systems/ parts and 2.) the complexities of scheduling these materials around which cars they can use. And also by killing that rule, it set a ceiling in terms of these types of regulations instead of floor. Meaning with a floor more regulations could have been added. or the implementaion could have been increased.

I'm always open to being wrong. I'll respect her words, but I'm going to wait till other experts weigh in as this reasoning seems somewhat suspect.

FYI, here is a video of Trump cutting regulations, saying he wants them to be lower than the 1960's. Think about all the new technology we've had since the 1960's (cellphones, implantable medical devices, etc etc.) . Regulations are bad until bad things happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykQdG51clqk

CoolUsername:


She only posted factual statements, not opinion. Her statements would be easy to disprove if they were wrong. She quoted the rule that Trump rolled back and compared that to the train's payload, there isn't much room for interpretation here. If any of those facts were false, then it would be easy to find out.

budaatum:

I love when you use your brain. It's the only reason I discuss with you sometimes. Pity is it's not often enough. Thanks for using it this time, eventually.

raskymonojendor:

I don't know why MTG and Lauren Boebert are always contesting for the post of dumbest congress member.

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