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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by nonhuman(m): 4:27pm On Feb 27, 2023
[quote author=yarimo post=121308638][/quote] who made this type of law, you mean even when a candidate tops the rest with just 1vote the person would be declared winner
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by floret23(f): 4:28pm On Feb 27, 2023
[quote author=yarimo post=121308660][/quote] See your life, yarimo. Why do you like deceiving yourself?
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by Esaint2016: 4:30pm On Feb 27, 2023
yarimo:
are you that illiterate? Don't you read where the constitution said highest number of votes cast. Please don't register for JAMB this year, if this is how dull you are in reading comprehension

That's why I'm asking you what did you study


Ask any Law student or friends if the court would ignore section b and use section a

Urchins are illiterate
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by BluntTheApostle(m): 4:31pm On Feb 27, 2023
007inc:


Section 134 subsection 2 of the constitution speaks clearly on that. To emerge winner. A candidate must win popular votes AND 2/3 of the federation AND Abuja.

You need to WIN ABUJA.



You don't need to win Abuja. You only need 25% there, and it looks like Tinubu would get his 25% there.

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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by yarimo(m): 4:33pm On Feb 27, 2023
nonhuman:
who made this type of law, you mean even when a candidate tops the rest with just 1vote the person would be declared winner
to know who made the law, it's now up to you to find out
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by yarimo(m): 4:34pm On Feb 27, 2023
Esaint2016:


That's why I'm asking you what did you study


Ask any Law student or friends if the court would ignore section b and use section a

Urchins are illiterate
register for JAMB first
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 4:36pm On Feb 27, 2023
Workch:
candidate must get 25% in 24 states and FCT
Where did you get 24 from
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 4:41pm On Feb 27, 2023
007inc:


Section 134 subsection 2 of the constitution speaks clearly on that. To emerge winner. A candidate must win popular votes AND 2/3 of the federation AND Abuja.

You need to WIN ABUJA.

The constitution says 25 % of 2/3 of states including Abuja
Which simply means for the purpose Abuja is another state and therefore there are 37 states
So depending on how you calculate 2/3 of 37 that would be 24 or 25 states

There is no requirement t that Abuja is one of the 24 or 25 states

The main space for legal argument. Would. be 24 or 25

Those old enough to remember 12 2/3 in 1979 would understand

The only thing of note is that Abuja is a state for presidential election

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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 4:45pm On Feb 27, 2023
BluntTheApostle:




You don't need to win Abuja. You only need 25% there, and it looks like Tinubu would get his 25% there.
You don't need 25% in Abuja
There is nothing like that

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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by BluntTheApostle(m): 4:59pm On Feb 27, 2023
0monnak0da:

You don't need 25% in Abuja
There is nothing like that



You are right.



An expert just told me now that you don't need 25% in Abuja.

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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 5:04pm On Feb 27, 2023
BluntTheApostle:




You are right.



An expert just told me now that you don't need 25% in Abuja.




You really do not need an expert
At any rate who is a expert? Lawyer? Do lawyers agree with each other??
Do you know the 12 2/3 story?
The position is that for Presidential elections there are 37 states in Nigeria
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by Elliotwaveforec: 5:07pm On Feb 27, 2023
2/3 of 37 (Abuja is the 37th state) is approx. 25.

Therefore, you don't need to win 25% in Abuja; just win 25% in 25 states with or without Abuja.
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 5:14pm On Feb 27, 2023
Elliotwaveforec:
2/3 of 37 (Abuja is the 37th state) is approx. 25.

Therefore, you don't need to win 25% in Abuja; just win 25% in 25 states with or without Abuja.
Are you familiar with Richard Akinjide and 12 2/3 story
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by IamANigerianMan: 5:17pm On Feb 27, 2023
DashingRush:
Tinubu will get 25% in FCT.
Which FCT?
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by Wali84: 5:19pm On Feb 27, 2023
Tonylyte:


U must fulfil the two conditions Mr Knownothingatall.
obidient are bringing there own constitution

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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by Elliotwaveforec: 5:22pm On Feb 27, 2023
0monnak0da:
Are you familiar with Richard Akinjide and 12 2/3 story
No! This is commonsense bro.; nothing special about Abuja.
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by Misterone: 5:26pm On Feb 27, 2023
franchasofficia:
If Tinubu doesn't get 25% in Abuja, the election will go into a rerun but as it stands, Tinubu will get more than 25%.



He will get around 28% , sadly
A small part of Nigeria cannot hold the rest to ransom
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by franchasofficia: 5:29pm On Feb 27, 2023
Misterone:
A small part of Nigeria cannot hold the rest to ransom
According to APC and INEC's doctored result, APC scored 27% in Abuja.
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 5:31pm On Feb 27, 2023
Elliotwaveforec:

No! This is commonsense bro.; nothing special about Abuja.

I never said or implied there is anything special about Abuja
The point is whether 2/3 of 37 is 24 or 25
There is nothing like common sense in politics
It is human nature to argue anything if it potentially benefits them
In the bible it is written Cain killed his brother and when God asked his whereabouts he replied
Am I my brothers keeper?
Any young person in Nigeria who is interested in politics should know that story very well,that is how Shagari became president

It is a shame people assume confusion started today
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 007inc: 6:05pm On Feb 27, 2023
0monnak0da:


The constitution says 25 % of 2/3 of states including Abuja
Which simply means for the purpose Abuja is another state and therefore there are 37 states
So depending on how you calculate 2/3 of 37 that would be 24 or 25 states

There is no requirement t that Abuja is one of the 24 or 25 states

The main space for legal argument. Would. be 24 or 25

Those old enough to remember 12 2/3 in 1979 would understand

The only thing of note is that Abuja is a state for presidential election

Not including Abuja. It says AND Abuja.

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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 007inc: 6:05pm On Feb 27, 2023
BluntTheApostle:




You don't need to win Abuja. You only need 25% there, and it looks like Tinubu would get his 25% there.
Tinubu has 11% in Abuja.
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 6:12pm On Feb 27, 2023
007inc:


Not including Abuja. It says AND Abuja.
Yes what does AND mean?

That is not something I am going to argue with you
You can say what you think
At best it can be taken to court for interpretation and Nigeria being what it is that will happen eventually.
My opinion is that Abuja is not listed as a state elsewhere in the constitution where states are listed but this use of AND elevates Abuja to the status of a State for the purpose of election making it a 37th state
If a man has 5 sons and one daughter and in his will be says
My property should be shared equally between my 5 sons and 1 daughter
Does that mean the sons on the one hand get half and the daughter gets half?

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Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by Ahuitzotl: 6:27pm On Feb 27, 2023
0monnak0da:
Yes what does AND mean?

That is not something I am going to argue with you
You can say what you think
At best it can be taken to court for interpretation and Nigeria being what it is that all happen eventually.
My opinion is that Abuja is not listed as a state elsewhere in the constitution where states are listed but this use of AND elevates Abuja to the status of a State for the purpose of election making it a 37th state
"AND" doesn't elevates Abuja but it separates it's destiny apart from the rest of the federation.Thus if you have 25% elsewhere but Abuja then the candidate still has case to answer. Check out since 1999 how most winning candidates blitz Abuja, hell even Buhari who is unpopular in Abuja just had to rig his to 40% in 2019....Why? So as to erase any doubt as to the legitimacy of his mandate, if it wasn't that important he could have left the results in Abuja since he had massive votes and percentage elsewhere....If the constitution wanted to elevate Abuja then it should simply have said "2/3 of the Federation" Full stop. Since Abuja is by default a part of the Federation
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by CSTRR: 6:30pm On Feb 27, 2023
As it stands now, it means only one state is preventing apc from entering a re-run.

So let's even assume apc get 25% and tinubu becomes president, it won't be for long.

A lot of the states they won or got 25% would be keenly contested in court and some states would fall off their grip atleast through the 25% rule.

We may still get a re-run in the long run.

The rest of the opposition just need their cases right and hire good lawyers.
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 6:37pm On Feb 27, 2023
Ahuitzotl:
"AND" doesn't elevates Abuja but it separates it's destiny apart from the rest of the federation.Thus if you have 25% elsewhere but Abuja then the candidate still has case to answer. Check out since 1999 how most winning candidates blitz Abuja, hell even Buhari who is unpopular in Abuja just had to rig his to 40% in 2019....Why? So as to erase any doubt as to the legitimacy of his mandate, if it wasn't that important he could have left the results in Abuja since he had massive votes and percentage elsewhere..
Guy you are not going to teach me English
Abuja is not listed as a state. But for the purpose of presidential election it's status is ELEVATED To that of a state which ordinarily it is not
You are entitled to your interpretation
That Buhari rigged election is irrelevant nonsense
This conversation is going nowhere

So can we close?
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 007inc: 6:39pm On Feb 27, 2023
0monnak0da:
Yes what does AND mean?

That is not something I am going to argue with you
You can say what you think
At best it can be taken to court for interpretation and Nigeria being what it is that will happen eventually.
My opinion is that Abuja is not listed as a state elsewhere in the constitution where states are listed but this use of AND elevates Abuja to the status of a State for the purpose of election making it a 37th state
If a man has 5 sons and one daughter and in his will be says
My property should be shared equally between my 5 sons and 1 daughter
Does that mean the sons on the one hand get half and the daughter gets half?

Relax and watch. Winner must get 25% in FCT
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 6:40pm On Feb 27, 2023
007inc:


Relax and watch. Winner must get 25% in FCT
Your head
store whatever you like in it
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by Elliotwaveforec: 6:52pm On Feb 27, 2023
0monnak0da:


I never said or implied there is anything special about Abuja
The point is whether 2/3 of 37 is 24 or 25
There is nothing like common sense in politics
It is human nature to argue anything if it potentially benefits them
In the bible it is written Cain killed his brother and when God asked his whereabouts he replied
Am I my brothers keeper?
Any young person in Nigeria who is interested in politics should know that story very well,that is how Shagari became president

It is a shame people assume confusion started today
24.66667, 25 not 24 states.
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 0monnak0da: 6:59pm On Feb 27, 2023
Elliotwaveforec:

24.66667, 25 not 24 states.
There is a good. Reason I mentioned the12 2/3 case
Maybe you will learn something if you invest some time in learning about yourhistory
I have no time for pointless talk
Re: FCT Current Result: If Neither APC Or PDP Makes 25% Here, There Will Be Runoff by 007inc: 7:01pm On Feb 27, 2023
0monnak0da:

Your head
store whatever you like in it
While u can store whatever u like in urs.

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