tomju2:

25% in at least 24 states AND FCT. That's 25!..His uncle is absolutely correct.

The key word their is AND

tomju2:

25% in at least 24 states AND FCT. That's 25!..His uncle is absolutely correct.

HAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHA, THIS IS FUNNY.

PointB:


If the FCT was to be treated as one the states, what then is the point of the constitution specifically mentioning it in the provision? Secondly, why is gubernatorial election not conducted to elect a Governor for FCT, as it is done for the states?

If FCT was not specifically mentioned, it will be simply interpreted to mean quarter of 36.

The FCT as the same governance structure as other states. The president run the territory through a minister, the NASS make laws for the territory and there is an FCT high court.

PointB:


The key word their is AND

There is already a Supreme Court judgement on this matter between Obasanjo and Buhari in 2005. The court ruled that a candidate doesn’t need to get 25% in FCT to be elected.

Firstorderwizard:
I personally consulted my uncle (a retired judge in his 80's) on the interpretation of the constitution.
Mind you He is a member of the 1997/98 constitutional conference that drafted the 1999 constitution.
He said that the FCT 25% clause was added because the President is like the FCT "governor" who now appoints a Minister to run the territory for him.
Therefore, for the President to be the Legitimate head of the FCT, He must have 25% approval of the people in FCT.

your uncle is a Big fool just like you.
Assuming a candidate win majority votes in all the 36 states in Nigeria but failed to get 25% in Abuja a runoff election will be conducted right?

You're even better than your uncle

seunmsg:


There is already a Supreme Court judgement on this matter between Obasanjo and Buhari in 2005. The court ruled that a candidate doesn’t need to get 25% in FCT to be elected.

I see. But that doesn't mean that the those Judge cannot make mistake the first time. This is a clear matter *AND* FCT.

There should be no confusion, unless that clause is not there.

PointB:


I see. But that doesn't mean that the those Judge cannot make mistake the first time. This is a clear matter *AND* FCT.

There should be no confusion, unless that clause is not there.

And section 299 already clarified that the FCT should be treated as a state for all constitutional matter.

Abdul4trust1:
your uncle is a Big fool just like you.
Assuming a candidate win majority votes in all the 36 states in Nigeria but failed to get 25% in Abuja a runoff election will be conducted right?

You're even better than your uncle

Yes.

I've asked ChatGPT, and that what it said. The key word is *AND*. So instead of insulting your betters, go help yourself with a dictionary. The election is far from over,

PointB:
There will likely be a run-off between PDP and APC.

PDP would win. But LP will retrieve their mandate from PDP using the courts.

What gives u the confidence that tinubu won’t get 25% in a rerun??

seunmsg:


And section 299 already clarified that the FCT should be treated as a state for all constitutional matter.

I suppose that will be after meeting the with requirement of the election.

It's the election that will GRANT you the authority to execute the constitution. So first the president has to be accepted by the people of the FCT.

updatechange:



What gives u the confidence that tinubu won’t get 25% in a rerun??

He will. But he will lose the popular vote in the re-run. Don't forget he won only 8 states.

Fine, first of all I advise we keep the argument civil cos I'm interested in this clause of our constitution of and researching on it.
Mind you, BAT govt will even favour me through my boss who may likely get a Parastatal appointment so I'm apolitical right now.

Back to the case, can you provide a link to the judgement?
Based on the section you quoted. If the law sees Abuja as a state why is the 2/3 of states regarded as 24 states which is actually 2/3 x 36 ? Instead of 25 states ?

seunmsg:


There is already a judgement of the Supreme Court on this matter and I hope to get my hand on it soon. However, section 299 of the constitution is very clear, FCT is to be treated as a state. Section 299 of the constitution says: “The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation.”

WHAT I LIKE THE MOST ABOUT THIS 2023 ELECTION ARE THEY THRILLERS. TO ME, IT'S THE MOST EXCITING ELECTION.

seunmsg:
Fergie01 and garfield1, can you guys help us with the decision of the Supreme Court in the 2003 case between Obasanjo and Buhari. I just heard that the issue of 25% of FCT was one of the issues put before the court and it was held that FCT should be treated as any other states and a candidate is not require to get 25% in FCT.

Yes,according to a lawyer interviewed on channels TV,it was decided that 25% wasn't mandatoru

senatordave1:


Yes,according to a lawyer interviewed on channels TV,it was decided that 25% wasn't mandatoru

How can we get the judgement?

seunmsg:


How can we get the judgement?

Just type buhari vs obj supra 2003

Sorry this thread is for intellectual minds and not for road side scavengers

Abdul4trust1:
your uncle is a Big fool just like you.
Assuming a candidate win majority votes in all the 36 states in Nigeria but failed to get 25% in Abuja a runoff election will be conducted right?

You're even better than your uncle

PointB:


If the FCT was to be treated as one the states, what then is the point of the constitution specifically mentioning it in the provision? Secondly, why is gubernatorial election not conducted to elect a Governor for FCT, as it is done for the states?

Treated like a state does not mean it is a state. Infact it means it is not so why does it need a governor. But it is not a state doesn't mean Nigerians are not living there so that makes it neutral and counted as a separate state which makes Nigeria 37 states for election's sake. All that is needed 2/3 which is 25 states. FCT is treated as equal to other states not superior

Sorry this thread is for intellectual minds and not for road side touts.

Abdul4trust1:
your uncle is a Big fool just like you.
Assuming a candidate win majority votes in all the 36 states in Nigeria but failed to get 25% in Abuja a runoff election will be conducted right?

You're even better than your uncle

Abdul4trust1:
your uncle is a Big fool just like you.
Assuming a candidate win majority votes in all the 36 states in Nigeria but failed to get 25% in Abuja a runoff election will be conducted right?

You're even better than your uncle

You are the bigger fool oga. Olodo rabata!!!

Esaint2016:


Do we have 36 states or 37?

It's 25% in 24 states, including the FCT. This means FCT is considered a state on its own for election purposes, although it's not in the real sense. Logically, the candidate must have 25% in 24 states, whether it's FCT or not.

Itza zimpu stuff ✌️

Firstorderwizard:
Fine, first of all I advise we keep the argument civil cos I'm interested in this clause of our constitution of and researching on it.
Mind you, BAT govt will even favour me through my boss who may likely get a Parastatal appointment so I'm apolitical right now.

Back to the case, can you provide a link to the judgement?
Based on the section you quoted. If the law sees Abuja as a state why is the 2/3 of states regarded as 24 states which is actually 2/3 x 36 ? Instead of 25 states ?

I don’t have a link to the judgement.

24 or 25 was not stated in the constitution. People are simply doing their own calculation based on their understanding of the provision of the constitution. For me, getting 25% in 25 is enough to fulfill the requirement of the constitution. My opinion is based on the fact that FCT is treated as a state In constitution matter like this.
Section 299 of the constitution says: “The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation.”

helinues:
If 25% is mandatory in FCT both Apc and Pdp would have found a way of winning it

Don't be surprised that they didn't even realise it until it was too late.

This is the first time SINCE 1999 that a so-called winner of a presidential election is not getting 25% in the FCT.

seunmsg:


There is already a judgement of the Supreme Court on this matter and I hope to get my hand on it soon. However, section 299 of the constitution is very clear, FCT is to be treated as a state. Section 299 of the constitution says: “The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation.”

You missed it. That section 299 still went ahead and listed what and what should apply to the FCT as if it were a state accordingly. Read through (a), (b) and (c), nowhere was election mentioned.

Generally is the FCT treated like a state? Does the FCT have a governor?

This is pure open daylight robbery

They can NEVER escape this rigging

The youths are coming for them

It will happen so fast that they will not be able to escape

Massive Nationwide riots loading

Just wait for INEC to announce the results

220,000,000 people and how many soldiers do we have in the arm forces less than 5,000,000.

The security forces can NEVER crush over 220,000,000 Nigerians

Let that sink

Coldsperm:

You are the bigger fool oga. Olodo rabata!!!

crying crying baby

Firstorderwizard:
Sorry this thread is for intellectual minds and not for road side touts.

yet you lack intellectual reasoning

Esaint2016:


Leave urchins to be masturbating on Wike beards

Instead of them to Rig Abuja, They rig Rivers

Without Rivers, They would still win

Misplaced priorities

Haba, why you dey teach urchins how to rig na!

Nothing pdp could hve done to get 25pc In Fct. No one saw this coming not even obi or Atiku. Obi really raped Atiku in this election, decimated him totally, near annihilation. Even I underrated him. I tot hed get a few votes here and there, but boy did he get more than a few votes! Tinubus greatest mistake which will follow him to his grave is not paying attention to fct. Already inec has her already tainted imag to protect after not having uploaded the results from PUs on their servers as stipulated in the EA. This is inecs only chance to redeem her battered image. There will be a rerun. And Waziri will be declared winner. We just need an alliance with Kwankwaso to stop the haemmorage in Kano. LP supporters would return home where they belong like the prodigal son, and the PDP would welcome them with open arms. O FCT, the city of Miracles.

PointB:


Yes.

I've asked ChatGPT, and that what it said. The key word is *AND*. So instead of insulting your betters, go help yourself with a dictionary. The election is far from over,

I'll laugh at you tomorrow by God's grace

I did some law courses in the university though am not a lawyer. I guess we'll leave it for senior lawyers to interpret then.
Remember that Mike Igini himself, a Lawyer and former INEC rec said on national tv that the 25% for FCT is mandatory.
Nobody saw this coming seriously. It's really thrilling
Democracy sweet, na Africans just dey spoil am with ethnicity and religion

seunmsg:


I don’t have a link to the judgement.

24 or 25 was not stated in the constitution. People are simply doing their own calculation based on their understanding of the provision of the constitution. For me, getting 25% in 25 is enough to fulfill the requirement of the constitution. My opinion is based on the fact that FCT is treated as a state In constitution matter like this.
Section 299 of the constitution says: “The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation.”

CockAndBullStor:
It's 25% in 24 states, including the FCT. This means FCT is considered a state on its own for election purposes, although it's not in the real sense. Logically, the candidate must have 25% in 24 states, whether it's FCT or not.

Itza zimpu stuff ✌️

Remind me if INEC don't call for Runoff little kid