1stGenAmerican:
The entire foreign affairs/politics section has been taken over by the mentally ill. The thread titles are clickbait, the threads make no sense, and the same irrelevant pictures and cartoons are copied and pasted endlessly. Hate to see it.

That's just Oladegbu, he's a nut job that can only convey his arguments or points through cartoons.

I remember him from the religion section. He's the weird mix of evangelical and trumpist.

DeusXmachina:

Source for your numbers.

However, yes nature produces more carbon than humans, and since it's a cycle, it also absorbs the carbon it releases (the carbon cycle) and a quantity of what humans emit as well, the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere is the net carbon not absorbed.
https://www.che-project.eu/news/main-sources-carbon-dioxide-emissions

Nature does not absorb all what it produces. Yes, it is a cycle but what makes you think that all the Carbon Nature produces is absorbed by nature?
there was a time the earth was white... it was covered with snow and the average temp is -54... Scientists claimed then no humans were present. so how did the earth get so hot from -54?

another point. you are claiming the earth absorbed the Co2 but what was the equilibrium? I mean, Humans are now 8 billion, and breathing releases tonnes of CO2, what about Animals? cows? their numbers are increasing too. Deforestation? how do the trees take away the co2 when they are being cut down, how about bushfires? volcanic activities etc?

you cannot with a clear conscience assert that the carbon produced by nature is taken by nature completely. there is no way to measure the extent at which the carbon is absorbed.

DeusXmachina:

Yes the numbers have been adjusted for solar activity, and no the sun isn't responsible.
https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/

No, the numbers have not been adjusted. there is a reason why the equator is hotter than anywhere on the planet. because more energy from the sun reaches it. there is a lot we don't understand. the effect the moon has on the earth is vital to the cooling of the earth as well. how it tilts the earth, etc. the state or proximity of the earth to the sun and the moon is not the same as it was 10 years ago or 50 years ago. there are a lot of factors to consider here. the moon is moving away from the earth, the sun is getting closer to the earth because it is expanding. it is getting hotter as well. all this are a factor... and in the last 50years, they say the earth has warmed up by just 1degree

DeusXmachina:
Sure, but which volcanic activity is responsible?
And even if a super volcano were to erupt, it would output roughly the same amount of CO2 we do in a year.
https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/42/what-do-volcanoes-have-to-do-with-climate-change/
Keep in mind, even if the increase in CO2 is somehow proven to natural and this climate change is entirely natural, my position doesn't change, we should become less reliant on fossil fuels, and carbon capture technology should be invested in.
Because this rate of change is faster than changes in the past, it's too fast that there's uncertainty on whether there is enough time for the natural environment to adapt to it. The heating up of the oceans, the change in acidity, and salinity there are delicate balances in nature that such changes can have unpredictable consequences.

the increase in Co2 is natural, what do you mean by somehow proven to be natural? before the industrial age, there was increase in Co2... there has always been.
Climate change is natural. this is why they should have stuck with the term GLOBAL WARMING. Climate will always change...

we should be less reliant on Fussil fuel. except you want to go back to the stone age. Also, do you think Carbon Tax will solve anything? so why do government want to tax people?

This article about Santos and his acceptance in the Republican party is nuts. The Republican party is nuts.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/the-plan-for-george-santos-magas-newest-it-girl.html

Twitter File drop 17.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1631338650901389322.html

So Tinubu has been chosen to lead Nigeria to the promised land.

Hopeful for a better Nigeria for Nigerians living in Nigeria. Hope he will do well for the country for the better.

Let's pause for a minute and appreciate what VP Harris have done so far. It will take me three pages to list all the meetings, legislation, and enacted policies she's been involved in.

Do you notice there's nothing faux news and sane republiqans have to say about her?

The only fools that will slander her will bring back their infidelity conspiracy or they go full Semitic on the husband or focus on her race.

But they can't attack her quiet blistering success so far.

armyofone:
So Tinubu has been chosen to lead Nigeria to the promised land.

Really? I thought Nigerians understand they will wander in the proverbial wilderness for the allegorical 40 years.

Guess they must think the 40 years is about to end. I seriously doubt it.

armyofone:
So Tinubu has been chosen to lead Nigeria to the promised land.

Hopeful for a better Nigeria for Nigerians living in Nigeria. Hope he will do well for the country for the better.

I know you mean well my friend, but there is no hope for Nigeria in the next four years, at most, if tinubu eventually enters power per se.

budaatum:


Really? I thought Nigerians understand they will wander in the proverbial wilderness for the allegorical 40 years.

Guess they must think the 40 years is about to end. I seriously doubt it.

I'm sorry but Nigeria is lost

IjeBos:
This article about Santos and his acceptance in the Republican party is nuts. The Republican party is nuts.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/the-plan-for-george-santos-magas-newest-it-girl.html

One thing I've learned in human life so far is that no matter what, the crescendo must come calling, the climax will be witnessed. And everyone will move on to the next. These evil people don't live forever, thank God, but they'll eventually get what comes to them. In due time.

Obrigardo:


I'm sorry but Nigeria is lost

I think you mean Nigerians are lost, since Nigeria has remained in the general same place that it's always been at.

Thankfully, we will some day find ourselves. These things just take time unfortunately, and sometimes, generations.

Watch 1883 or any Western to see how lost what became USA was. Today it's touted as a superpower, though some might claim not much changed.

DeusXmachina:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-and-elizabeth-warrens-bold-tax-hike-to-shore-up-social-security-4d84e5a3

So who's angry about this? The tech bro killing it with $400k yearly? 12% too much?

President Biden is already considering the Wealth tax so no need for Warren to include that in this bill.

budaatum:


I think you mean Nigerians are lost, since Nigeria has remained in the general same place that it's always been at.

Thankfully, we will some day find ourselves. These things just take time unfortunately, and sometimes, generations.

Watch 1883 or any Western to see how lost what became USA was. Today it's touted as a superpower, though some might claim not much changed.

1883 was on my radar, don't know why I didn't start it.

One thing Nigerians have never understood is that Nationality doesn't have to be tribalistic. Well some Nigerians and not all. Just look at the republiqans like mtg, tucker, and co pushing White supremacy talking points and you can parallel them to some set of Nigerians that won't share ideals with someone not of their tribe. Just like some republiqans don't understand what a Nation is, same way some Nigerians will think and Nigeria will ever remain this way.

armyofone:
So Tinubu has been chosen to lead Nigeria to the promised land.

Hopeful for a better Nigeria for Nigerians living in Nigeria. Hope he will do well for the country for the better.

How can he? He's an old school drug dealer, turned political thug. He's going to treat the country like he treated the election in Lagos.

Obrigardo:


1883 was on my radar, don't know why I didn't start it.

One thing Nigerians have never understood is that Nationality doesn't have to be tribalistic. Well some Nigerians and not all. Just look at the republiqans like mtg, tucker, and co pushing White supremacy talking points and you can parallel them to some set of Nigerians that won't share ideals with someone not of their tribe. Just like some republiqans don't understand what a Nation is, same way some Nigerians will think and Nigeria will ever remain this way.

Was on my radar too, but didn't start it till I read OhBritannia's wonderful write up about 1923, which I also intend to watch.

Some benefit from the way things are and can easily convince others that the way things are is better for them than a change of the way things are. Just imagine MTG tied to the kitchen sink popping out babies to understand the hypocrisy.

Obrigardo:


I'm sorry but Nigeria is lost

No truer words than this. Nigerians unfortunately are too comfortable just eeking out an existence.

budaatum:


Was on my radar too, but didn't start it till I read OhBritannia's wonderful write up about 1923, which I also intend to watch.

Some benefit from the way things are and can easily convince others that the way things are is better for them than a change of the way things are. Just imagine MTG tied to the kitchen sink popping out babies to understand the hypocrisy.

You nailed it. The benefit they get from divisiveness and an accountability system that is failing is the cause of constant hate hemorrhage.
I just feel pity for people who look up to these evelings just to massage their hate.

Obrigardo:


1883 was on my radar, don't know why I didn't start it.

One thing Nigerians have never understood is that Nationality doesn't have to be tribalistic. Well some Nigerians and not all. Just look at the republiqans like mtg, tucker, and co pushing White supremacy talking points and you can parallel them to some set of Nigerians that won't share ideals with someone not of their tribe. Just like some republiqans don't understand what a Nation is, same way some Nigerians will think and Nigeria will ever remain this way.

The problem is Nigeria was an invention of colonials. Too many distinct tribes and differing religions. Not sure it's governable esp. when people are comfortable living in as is. I think it's very peculiar that people are so tribalistic when one of their main cities is literally named after a foreign conqueror.

IjeBos:


The problem is Nigeria was an invention of colonials. Too many distinct tribes and differing religions. Not sure it's governable esp. when people are comfortable living in as is. I think it's very peculiar that people are so tribalistic when one of their main cities is literally named after a foreign conqueror.

Was this a conspiracy that the British wanted the Hausa Fulani class to be the defacto rulers of Nigeria. They claimed they know how to rule, the Yoruba educators and Igbo the economic backbone.

Hmm, what city is that? In codes please

IjeBos:


The problem is Nigeria was an invention of colonials. Too many distinct tribes and differing religions. Not sure it's governable esp. when people are comfortable living in as is. I think it's very peculiar that people are so tribalistic when one of their main cities is literally named after a foreign conqueror.

You must be describing USA, though I bet you wouldn't call those who migrated from all over Europe and the rest of the world, "distinct tribes", I bet.

Obrigardo:


Was this a conspiracy that the British wanted the Hausa Fulani class to be the defacto rulers of Nigeria. They claimed they know how to rule, the Yoruba educators and Igbo the economic backbone.

Hmm, what city is that? In codes please

Not sure the reference to the first part.
As to the names.
Lagos is Portuguese for Lakes.
And to a lesser degree PHC is named after Lewis Harcourt, 1st Viscount Harcourt, then the Secretary of State for the Colonies. There may be more, but those were the ones I read about a while ago.

budaatum:


You must be describing USA, though I bet you wouldn't call those who migrated from all over Europe and the rest of the world, "distinct tribes", I bet.

US is distinct. It's a self selecting group of people who decided to leave their own "tribes" and emigrate to somewhere else.
And I used distinct tribes because that's how Nigerians see themselves. I get it, people have generational ancestorial land in Nigeria.

IjeBos:


Us is distinct. It's a self selecting group of people who decided to leave their own "tribes" and emigrate to somewhere else.
And I used distinct tribes because that's how Nigerians see themselves.

"Self selecting", lol. As in, they self bought a ticket on the boat? You do know some were sent to America as part of a jail sentence, right, and that's apart from those who were sold to the place?

"Distinct tribes", distinct nationalities, same difference as far as they sometimes see themselves. Even today you'd see some distinctify themselves when it suits them.

budaatum:


"Self selecting", lol. As in, they self bought a ticket on the boat? You do know some were sent to America as part of a jail sentence, right, and that's apart from those who were sold to the place?

"Distinct tribes", distinct nationalities, same difference as far as they sometimes see themselves. Even today you'd see some distinctify themselves when it suits them.

Self selecting - post slavery obviously. Really? Why would you even go there?

My argument isn't to as what I believe, it's as to what I think Nigerians believe. And I think that point was made during this "election".

IjeBos:


Self selecting - post slavery obviously. Really? Why would you even go there?

My argument isn't to as what I believe, it's as to what I think Nigerians believe. And I think that point was made during this "election".

A selective reading of the election results might make one conclude what you have. Fact is, no candidate got only votes from their tribe, which kind of disproves your point, I'd think.

Fact is, USA was "an invention of colonials" with people from diverse nationalities, and it seems to be doing pretty well, so that's not the reason Nigeria is not doing so well.

If we mended our mentality, I believe we'd do well too.

Here's a recent post. Don't know how valid it is, but if true, those elders must have forgotten the tribe they are from.

budaatum:


A selective reading of the election results might make one conclude what you have. Fact is, no candidate got only votes from their tribe, which kind of disproves your point, I'd think.

You're being cute by half here. Large swarths of the country voted for their "tribe" or religion electing back to power a party who has basially decimated the country.

budaatum:

Fact is, USA was "an invention of colonials" with people from diverse nationalities, and it seems to be doing pretty well, so that's not the reason Nigeria is not doing so well.

Again, outside of the slaves and the Native Americans whom were basically wiped out, everyone who came here chose to for whatever reason. So, they had a a believe that they would assimilate. Nigeria is a totally different situations where colonials carved up a land filled with indigenous people and at times splitting tribes in order to create a country. A good counter example would be the Native Americans who have reservations where they continue their own culture.

budaatum:

If we mended our mentality, I believe we'd do well too.

I'm not sure that is enough. A basic tenet of US law is freedom of religion. You can't have a cohesive country when the government endorses religious law (sharia).

budaatum:
Here's a recent post. Don't know how valid it is, but if true, those elders must have forgotten the tribe they are from.

I'm not sure the point you are making. Are you arguing that tribalism and religious differences aren't part in parcel of our problems?

And as to those elders.. their words are meaningless to me. They are also part of a broken system always reacting based on where they can get there palms greased.

IjeBos:

I'm not sure that is enough. A basic tenet of US law is freedom of religion. You can't have a cohesive country when the government endorses religious law (sharia).

Yes you can have a country "when the government endorses religious law". India springs to mind with its endorsed Hinduism, and with a tiny stretch of the imagination, so does China, though you'd need to stretch as far as considering Communism as a sort of religion.

Still, you've hit the head of the nail with your "basic tenet of US law", though its not as basic as you claim. Laws are made by people, and such laws as freedom of religion require a sort of enlightenment that we Nigerians just have not yet achieved, which is why we do not have such laws. We'd have them when we educate ourselves.

Nigerians seem to not have voted predominantly along religious lines nor tribe, or Tinubu would not have won in states that have few Muslims, and Obi would have won all states with Christian majorities.

That said, I'm waiting for a detailed breakdown of votes. It will show how cute I'm being. Personally, personal presumed gain is what I think swayed this election. As much as I'd have preferred Obi, he just hadn't done the groundwork that would have given him the win. If he'd been the PDP candidate, he'd have had a much better chance.

IjeBos:


I'm not sure the point you are making. Are you arguing that tribalism and religious differences aren't part in parcel of our problems?

No, I'm not "arguing that tribalism and religious differences aren't part in parcel of our problem". What I'm debating is how much a part of the parcel it actually was.

This, after all, is not our first election, and we seem to be all over the place as far as "tribalism and religious differences" determined past results.

I borrowed this in part. I've left out some at the end, and haven't checked it's validity, and some is not exactly true, note, but......

fairplay90:
In 1999, the Igbo voted for Obasanjo en block

Obasanjo is Yoruba

Obasanjo lost Yorubaland but scored 85%+ in Igbo land

In 2003, the Igbo voted for Obasanjo

Obasanjo scored 95% in some Igbo states

Obasanjo defeated Ojukwu in Igbo land.

In 2007, the Igbo voted for Yaradua

Yaradua was Hausa-Fulani

Yaradua scored his highest percentage votes in Igbo land

In 2011, the Igbo voted for Jonathan

Jonathan is Ijaw

Jonathan scored 95%+ in Igbo land

In 2015, the Igbo voted Jonathan

Jonathan scored a higher percentage in igbo land that the South South Region

In 2019, the Igbo voted Atiku

Atiku is Fulani

Atiku scored a higher percentage in Anambra than Adamawa

In 2023, the Igbo voted.