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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Tataffo: 11:12pm On Mar 04, 2023
Na the first video evidence Labour party suppose play for court be this...."My Lord,shey you dey whine me ni.....Na this people mandate una wan steal?cancel that Rivers result now"

https://twitter.com/JoeJeffz/status/1632119012028043264?t=f-ZJzSYMCChWfX6AqRlYqQ&s=19

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:12pm On Mar 04, 2023
Joezinho:
I was in a WhatsApp group full of former coursemates from University of Nigeria, Nsukka, and the kind of propaganda being deployed there would scare the North Koreans. 😅😅

I reminded the admin(my buddie back in school) that the purpose of creating a WhatsApp group for former university School coursemates is not a forum to discuss politics and religion. Discussing such sensitive topics will only tear apart the group. Ogbuefi didn’t even listen. The insults rained on my tribe is something I haven’t seen.

I had to jejely leave the group. It felt like I was in a IPOB group. I realized I will always be “ofe mmanu” to them in that WhatsApp group even down to my 500th generation.

just ignore them

An juwon o shey wi lejo.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:13pm On Mar 04, 2023
Bombblacks:

There's a reason why I called it mumbo jumbo. Nobody takes mysticism philosophy seriously. It's not possible to argue against a question of metaphysics and ontology using arguments of physics.
I can see your knowledge of the subject is very limited. Philosophy is the mother of science, including Physics, and all kinds of knowledge.

That's why all physicists took some courses in Philosophy while in school.

Nothing or Void is a crucial concept for physicists, especially those that study the beginning of the Universe and cosmology generally.

That's why a physicist and cosmologist like Lawrence Krauss wrote the book entitled "A Universe from Nothing". In the quantum realm, something can arise from nothing, and that has been demonstrated empirically.

When Socrates said "all that I know is nothing", you must think he's foolish or ignorant.

In one of the writings of Otem, one of the past beings (who had lived on Earth in the ancient past) that gave the histories he's writing to him explained how during one of his explorations of different parts of the Universe, he did studies on the Beginning of the Universe and how he started freezing when he moved close to the Source of the Universe, which is a Vacuum.

He said all things in existence existed as One in that frozen state of unconsciousness in the Vacuum in the Beginning before the expansions.

If you're into Cosmology and/or Astrophysics, it'll be foolish to dismiss Nothing and these ideas.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Joezinho: 11:34pm On Mar 04, 2023
raumdeuter:


just ignore them

An juwon o shey wi lejo.

Egbon, moti fi won le pelu Ayanmo won, emi o ni pada si ibe mo, Ko ti e se Aye yi tabi omii gan. Won gbodo mo wipe ajuwon lo a de n se egbe won.

Kosi bi won se fe gbe wa subo, aa ma ri igbega lo soke ni, Nitori Olorun ti gbe wa ga ju gbogbo won lo.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 11:40pm On Mar 04, 2023
A001:

I can see your knowledge of the subject is very limited. Philosophy is the mother of science, including Physics, and all kinds of knowledge.

That's why all physicists took some courses in Philosophy while in school.

Nothing or Void is a crucial concept for physicists, especially those that study the beginning of the Universe and cosmology generally.

That's why a physicist and cosmologist like Lawrence Krauss wrote the book entitled "A Universe from Nothing". In the quantum realm, something can arise from nothing, and that has been demonstrated empirically.

When Socrates said "all that I know is nothing", you must think he's foolish or ignorant.

In one of the writings of Otem, one of the past beings (who had lived on Earth in the ancient past) that gave the histories he's writing to him explained how during one of his explorations of different parts of the Universe, he did studies on the Beginning of the Universe and how he started freezing when he moved close to the Source of the Universe, which is a Vacuum.

He said all things in existence existed as One in that frozen state of unconsciousness in the Vacuum in the Beginning before the expansions.

If you're into Cosmology and/or Astrophysics, it'll be foolish to dismiss Nothing and these ideas.


I very much doubt you understand my previous reply.


* Physicists are philosophers lol.


* There's nothing special about physicists. Every human is a logical thinker. Bro you are a philosopher yourself.


* Cosmology and ontology are branches of metaphysics.


*Quantum realm is mumbo jumbo under metaphysics. Metaphysics is not an actual science hence my previous reply below.



Bombblacks:

It's not possible to argue against a question of metaphysics and ontology using arguments of physics.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Magnoliaa(f): 11:43pm On Mar 04, 2023
Ibukzy:
All this photo ops on top 75k?? El-Rufai was spot on when he called him a Nollywood actor.

Lmaoooo.

This is rich coming from someone who likely support candidates that throw a fanfare whenever they are sharing rice, ororo and cooking spices to the populace.



Another thing, are you a super human somehow? 'Cause how do you know it was exactly 75k he gave her? grin

Please, tell us your secret.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Magnoliaa(f): 11:45pm On Mar 04, 2023
To the eleyi that was sharing a screenshot of a deleted tweet, it is now back up.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Our Okwute is not a coward who speaks or posts rashly without thought unlike some of y'all principals.

If Obi deletes a tweet, best believe it was likely because of a typographical error or omission, NOT FOR ANY other reasons.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 11:55pm On Mar 04, 2023
My suggestion is that Labour Party should transition from a normal Nigerian political Party to a R3VOLUTIONARY Political Institution with a single mandate to Cause a Radical National Transformation in the country - nicknamed the Overhauling Party.

LP should study other R3VOLUTIONARY Political movements across the world and bring such level of politics to Nigeria.

The new LP senators and HOR members should not be "OH YES" Members in the National Assembly.

They should never get into that pressure of building toilets in their Constituencies... No. Legislators are not elected to build infrastructure but to hold the executive accountable, make laws and interface between the citizens and the government. They should focus on doing the job of a legislator and put pressure on the executive to build and maintain infrastructure.

Labour should have a functional Political Education Directorate - PED.
The political education directorate shall be responsible for indoctrinating new members with the ideologies of the party. Political ideology is lacking in Nigerian politics. People join the "winning party" or the one they think can win. Enough of that. Every member of Labour Party should go through LP's political school, subscribe to their political ideologies and be able to evangelize the same ideologies to others. Everything LP stands for including Manifestos should be established on the party's ideologies - not solely on candidates personal desires/ideas. Nobody should be allowed to run on the platform of LP until they have gone through the LP political foundation School.

The Labour Party should have huge control over its elected officials. If you win an election on the platform of LP, you cannot suddenly become more powerful than LP. The Party should charge a compulsory percentage of the salaries of her elected officials which should be paid into the party's account monthly.
This will discourage Political money gamblers from running on the party's platform.

And lastly, labour party should hold rallies quarterly - not just during election campaign seasons.
Labour Party should be seen on the streets campaigning for a better Nigeria, protesting against bad government and relating with the common Nigerian on the street. The chairman should do house to house visits once every week. It should be on his weekly routine to visit at least 5 Nigerian families every week, interact with them and document their experiences.

To be the game changer, Labour Party can no be just another BIG PARTY like PDP and APC... No. They should organise a Diaspora political interface where Nigerians in Diaspora can help shape politics in Nigeria for the benefit of Nigeria.

Labour Party can do so much starting from now until Peter Obi reclaims our mandate through the courts.
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:55pm On Mar 04, 2023
Bombblacks:


I very much doubt you understand my previous post.


* Physicists are philosophers lol.


* There's nothing special about physicists. Every human is a logical thinker. Bro you are a philosopher yourself.


* Cosmology and ontology are branches of metaphysics.


*Quantum realm is mumbo jumbo under metaphysics. Metaphysics is not an actual science hence my previous reply.

You're just commenting on issues ignorantly. Cosmology is the branch of astronomy that deals with the origin and development of the universe.

It's one of the many fields in Physics.

It's the business of people like Lawrence Krauss who is an expert in cosmology.

Quantum physics deals with the study of particles and phenomena in the subatomic or quantum realm and is a branch of Physics, not metaphysics.

Everything is special about physicists as they're some of the most intelligent people on the planet. When talking about the nature of the Universe including its beginning, I consider the views of physicists more seriously than your own view as a layman.

Also, I consider the view of philosophers like Socrates, Lao Tzu, Otem, and past humans like Atum (who taught the ancient Egyptians how to build those wondrous pyramids) more seriously than the view of a person that doesn't know jack about Physics or what's called cosmology or quantum physics.

As said earlier, Nothing is a fascinating concept that has a lot of depth. Unless you know with certainty what existed before the Big Bang, it'd be foolish to dismiss Nothing or Vacuum.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Joezinho: 12:00am On Mar 05, 2023
Crying freemen.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 12:24am On Mar 05, 2023
A001:

You're just commenting on issues ignorantly. Cosmology is the branch of astronomy that deals with the origin and development of the universe.

It's one of the many fields in Physics.

It's the business of people like Lawrence Krauss who is an expert in cosmology.

Quantum physics deals with the study of particles and phenomena in the subatomic or quantum realm and is a branch of Physics, not metaphysics.

Everything is special about physicists as they're some of the most intelligent people on the planet. When talking about the nature of the Universe including its beginning, I consider the views of physicists more seriously than your own view as a layman.

Also, I consider the view of philosophers like Socrates, Lao Tzu, Otem, and past humans like Atum (who taught the ancient Egyptians how to build those wondrous pyramids) more seriously than the view of a person that doesn't know jack about Physics or what's called cosmology or quantum physics.

As said earlier, Nothing is a fascinating concept that has a lot of depth. Unless you know with certainty what existed before the Big Bang, it'd be foolish to dismiss Nothing or Vacuum.

* The concept of nothing belongs to metaphysics.

*The problem here is that you believe in every metaphysics mumbo jumbo you see. You don't know the difference between actual science and metaphysics. Cosmology and ontology are branches of metaphysics.


*Metaphysics is unscientific and redundant. I've always been and remain deeply sceptical of metaphysical arguments. They have the same major flaw as religion

*Asking "What exited before the Big Bang" is like asking "What is north of the North Pole." It's like asking "What is further center than the exact center." "Nothing" exists there because "there" doesn't exist.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 1:54am On Mar 05, 2023
Donjazet2:


Itsrm, what sort of nonsense is this?? Like, what is this?
What kind of terrible mindset is this?

Infact I pray that armed robbers visit your house this night, cart away your properties, physically harm you and stab you In the eye while at it, then let people cheer these robbers in your face and I hope you accept that armed robbery in good faith.. since you lack empathy and sense of discernment.

Very nonsense mindset.

Millions of citizens had their hopes dashed because of daylight robbery by these wicked politicians, citizens who travelled thousands of miles to vote, people who expended time, emotions and hope for their choice and you're telling them to just "accept it and move on". That's incredibly insensitive and very stupid.
Day by day yo just keep losing the tangible respect you've managed to build up over the years in this sports section especially the Chelsea thread where this thread originated from. Fighting and wishing the worst for your fellow Nigerian who felt the all round pangs under the eight years of buhari who you voted back to back cause of a politician that can cross carpet tomorrow. When have you seen the supreme court in this 21st century overturning a presidential election result? You are actually depending on the corrupt law in this country that even buhari abuses it's judgement without restraint. My whole hood was very quiet after tinubu was announced as winner. My mind was scattered that day with me thinking of the country's future and inec's blatant failure once again. I didn't even congratulate my friends who supported him but then again that won't make me wish him to fail or his supporters the worst because I voted obi. Just try to tone down before everyone in the section sees you as a well read nutjob. It's honestly sad to see this your hot brain functioning with the manual of a bloated sponge atimes.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 2:56am On Mar 05, 2023
Pressure ti wa lo tọ́, McOluomo sef dey apologise and beg Lagosians 😁...

https://twitter.com/pereyiii/status/1631747348748554240?t=BjauKHWqlZcNYoyKYxd3sQ&s=19

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 3:01am On Mar 05, 2023
Delusion is thinking the average Nigerians chance of eating a good meal depends on whether Obi replaces Tinubu

I doubt the President has an impact on the average Nigerians condition by more than 5%

Most impactful is the international oil price and the volume of oil shipped per day. This is what gives Nigeria the Forex reserves to stabilise the Naira which is most impactful on inflation and the average Nigeria standard of living, not who is President

All three candidates promised to let the Naira float free (devaluation) while Obi in particular promised to end fuel subsidy

Anybody thinking the condition of the average Nigerian or their mental health depends on Obi presidency never know wetin dey bite Nigerians

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:36am On Mar 05, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Day by day yo just keep losing the tangible respect you've managed to build up over the years in this sports section especially the Chelsea thread where this thread originated from. Fighting and wishing the worst for your fellow Nigerian who felt the all round pangs under the eight years of buhari who you voted back to back cause of a politician that can cross carpet tomorrow. When have you seen the supreme court in this 21st century overturning a presidential election result? You are actually depending on the corrupt law in this country that even buhari abuses it's judgement without restraint. My whole hood was very quiet after tinubu was announced as winner. My mind was scattered that day with me thinking of the country's future and inec's blatant failure once again. I didn't even congratulate my friends who supported him but then again that won't make me wish him to fail or his supporters the worst because I voted obi. Just try to tone down before everyone in the section sees you as a well read nutjob. It's honestly sad to see this your hot brain functioning with the manual of a bloated sponge atimes.

grin

I called it. The man who saw tomorrow. Call me Nostradocmus.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 3:48am On Mar 05, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Day by day yo just keep losing the tangible respect you've managed to build up over the years in this sports section especially the Chelsea thread where this thread originated from. Fighting and wishing the worst for your fellow Nigerian who felt the all round pangs under the eight years of buhari who you voted back to back cause of a politician that can cross carpet tomorrow. When have you seen the supreme court in this 21st century overturning a presidential election result? You are actually depending on the corrupt law in this country that even buhari abuses it's judgement without restraint. My whole hood was very quiet after tinubu was announced as winner. My mind was scattered that day with me thinking of the country's future and inec's blatant failure once again. I didn't even congratulate my friends who supported him but then again that won't make me wish him to fail or his supporters the worst because I voted obi. Just try to tone down before everyone in the section sees you as a well read nutjob. It's honestly sad to see this your hot brain functioning with the manual of a bloated sponge atimes.
you know when someone rubs their victory on your face, it can spark a brawl.. more especially s stolen victory..

I guess none of your friends who supported bat 🏓 will have the temerity to keep rubbing the victory on your face..

I don't have bat 🦇 supporters real life.. but if I ever had and they ever try to rub this victory on my face or one day try to be the moral FBI to any atrrocities whatever.. it might leade to a physical clap back..

These hypocrites who talk against vices, robbery, kidnapping, internet fraud, etc.. but celebrate a stolen mandate and an election filled with malpractice .. they sometimes deserves to be paid in their own coins 🪙 or something much worse..

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:53am On Mar 05, 2023
TrebleChamp:
Pressure ti wa lo tọ́, McOluomo sef dey apologise and beg Lagosians 😁...

https://twitter.com/pereyiii/status/1631747348748554240?t=BjauKHWqlZcNYoyKYxd3sQ&s=19

Omo! I no know say MC sabi pray like this sha. grin

This election is going to be interesting. Whichever side underestimates the other might pay the ultimate price.


I have a question though. Taking away Tinubu vs Obi, APC vs LP, Yoruba vs Igbo, does Sanwo-Olu deserve a second term as governor in your opinion?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by FBS: 4:08am On Mar 05, 2023
Èéfín ni ìwà, kò ṣeé fi pamọ́


Owe Yoruba.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:22am On Mar 05, 2023
A001:

You're just commenting on issues ignorantly. Cosmology is the branch of astronomy that deals with the origin and development of the universe.

It's one of the many fields in Physics.

It's the business of people like Lawrence Krauss who is an expert in cosmology.

Quantum physics deals with the study of particles and phenomena in the subatomic or quantum realm and is a branch of Physics, not metaphysics.

Everything is special about physicists as they're some of the most intelligent people on the planet. When talking about the nature of the Universe including its beginning, I consider the views of physicists more seriously than your own view as a layman.

Also, I consider the view of philosophers like Socrates, Lao Tzu, Otem, and past humans like Atum (who taught the ancient Egyptians how to build those wondrous pyramids) more seriously than the view of a person that doesn't know jack about Physics or what's called cosmology or quantum physics.

As said earlier, Nothing is a fascinating concept that has a lot of depth. Unless you know with certainty what existed before the Big Bang, it'd be foolish to dismiss Nothing or Vacuum.
In science nothing is actually 'something'.

It's like zero in mathematics. It means something.

A particle and it anti particle can collide and annihilate each other to become nothing. That nothing can also split into two (particle and anti-particle).

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 4:23am On Mar 05, 2023
Ibime:
Delusion is thinking the average Nigerians chance of eating a good meal depends on whether Obi replaces Tinubu

I doubt the President has an impact on the average Nigerians condition by more than 5%

Most impactful is the international oil price and the volume of oil shipped per day. This is what gives Nigeria the Forex reserves to stabilise the Naira which is most impactful on inflation and the average Nigeria standard of living, not who is President

All three candidates promised to let the Naira float free (devaluation) while Obi in particular promised to end fuel subsidy

Anybody thinking the condition of the average Nigerian or their mental health depends on Obi presidency never know wetin dey bite Nigerians




I posted a similar article like this from Financial Times UK but guys dismissed it that's a random article. Below is what Sanusi said.

""The gap between the black market rate and the “artificial” official exchange rate would keep widening .Mr Sanusi predicted, until the bank adopted a more realistic policy or the price of oil climbed and dramatically increased reserves""

Emifiele's CBN has devalued the Naira three times or so against the dollars but the gap keeps widening.
He has fixed the artificial official exchange rate at 200 plus, 300 plus and now at 400 or so against the dollar but the gap keeps widening between the official rate and the parallel market. If he likes he should devalue it further, he will still get same result.


Perhaps Emifiele didn't study Economics if not he would have known that Nigeria’s external reserves is the power and the tool that give Central Bank the firepower to defend the local currency against the dollar. I have never been a fan of Emifiele and some of his policies.

Tinubu has a lot of work to do but first he should make sure he get sound people to manage CBN.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:16am On Mar 05, 2023
Make march 11th come jare make una everybody vote for who dem wan vote for make we rest .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Agadinaagwuofe: 5:34am On Mar 05, 2023
OasisX:
APC polled 40 here, it was reduced to 4, while LP votes grew from 2 figures to 3 figures. This is typical example of free and fair election in South East region.

Sorry but I feel this is only proving the Labour party right. That rigging occur, what APC PR should be doing is to ignore and be proving election is free and fair to stand, showing Labour rigged is tantamount to "labour rigged also like ours but we over rigged them" which won't stand in court of fair hearing. INEC should be able to conduct election free and fair irrespective of who or whom it was rigged for or against.
Well, I don't know but I feel the APC handlers posting the doctored EC8 form to show rigging happen isn't doing APC good right rather they are proving LP point that election wasn't free and fair. That expose should be left for LP and PDP and allow court to take a stand.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:48am On Mar 05, 2023
Things just hard anyhow

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Agadinaagwuofe: 5:50am On Mar 05, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


People wan dey form like say them get amnesia.

8yrs and you say I should do another possible 8yrs again and then by the end of the 8th year you will be complaining about apc and then do another 8yrs again..

Ahn ahn at what point do you realise you are under a spell?

Sadly this is the fate of Nigerians. I really hope things turn around for good because future looks bleak. I hope and wish the government well because it is still in favour of the people. My only worry is a lot was invested in the victory and paying back all invested will only lead to one thing, taking chunk of the resources meant to serve the people. This time around no amount of cry or criticism will change his mind. I think he is used to criticisms and hardly allow that to shake him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Agadinaagwuofe: 5:57am On Mar 05, 2023
TrebleChamp:
Omo the level of lies and propaganda targeted at Gbadebo is alarming, all this because Peter Obi won Lagos State. A victory some Batist said can never happen in Lagos. Read up on what was sent to me now through WhatsApp by a friend, i have other messages too...


INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION ON THE LABOUR PARTY, LP CANDIDATE, GBADEBO RHODES

Sourced from Apapo Oodua Koya, AOKOYA Intelligence Unit

In the past few months, we have tried to dig up information on the Labour Candidate Gubernatorial Aspirant in Lagos.

Not that we believe in the Nigerian elections but AOKOYA took the decision to dig up information about him for Yoruba Strategic Interest

1) He Gbadebo has good education having attended elite primary school beginning from Christland in Lagos, Nottingham and Paris plus University of Lagos.

2) He was born out of wedlock. His mother never married his father.

3) His mother is bitter after the experience she had with his father. He took Gbadebo away.

4) Gbadebo was fully adopted by his mother who hails from Anambra State.

5) Gbadebo other names are Chinedu, Ekweremadu and Okafor.


6) His wife, Nkechi is from Abia State

7) Gbadebo is driven by hate against his father who did not accept him and by implication against the Yoruba, the tribe of his father. He is blood bound with his mother and Igbo, his real identity.

cool Five Labour Candidates candidates were presented to Mr Peter Obi to lead Lagos. Obi insisted on Gbadebo Chinedu and rejected the other four, being fully Yoruba all from Lagos Island. The reason is because Chinedu who speaks Igbo fluently is from Anambra, the birthplace of Peter Obi.

9) Chinedu joined IPOB in 2016 in Onitsha and was the Deputy Commander for Anambra State between 2016 and 2017.

10) Chinedu held series of meetings with Nnamdi Kanu in London.

11) IPOB once said there won't be elections in the SE. One of the reasons IPOB stopped the attacks in the East to allow the election to hold was the negotiation IPOB had with Obi that IPOB should produce the LP candidate in Lagos State. IPOB in turn gave massive votes to Obi in the South East.

12) Many IPOB members and Igbos transferred their PVCs to Lagos State to support Gbadebo. Some came from West Africa sub region to register in Lagos as voters. The Igbo hold constant secret meetings mobilising for Gbadebo.

13) At present, IPOB provides his covert security when he goes out to campaign apart from police escort.

The above intelligence gathering is for Yoruba people and not for the sake of the grossly irresponsible and self serving Yoruba political elite whose economic Programmes continue to draw Yoruba back into the filthy dungeon of underdevelopment.

Signed Col Abimbola Sowunmi

For AOKOYA
cheesy grin grin.. People will call this politics.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emmynator(m): 6:15am On Mar 05, 2023
I read DonJ latest epistle and I almost convulsed with laughter 😂😂😂
Make una just dey play 😂

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 6:29am On Mar 05, 2023
😂😂😂

..... kinda miracle Canopians are expecting under Obi administration. LOL

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:31am On Mar 05, 2023
Donjazet2:
My suggestion is that Labour Party should transition from a normal Nigerian political Party to a R3VOLUTIONARY Political Institution with a single mandate to Cause a Radical National Transformation in the country - nicknamed the Overhauling Party.

LP should study other R3VOLUTIONARY Political movements across the world and bring such level of politics to Nigeria.

The new LP senators and HOR members should not be "OH YES" Members in the National Assembly.

They should never get into that pressure of building toilets in their Constituencies... No. Legislators are not elected to build infrastructure but to hold the executive accountable, make laws and interface between the citizens and the government. They should focus on doing the job of a legislator and put pressure on the executive to build and maintain infrastructure.

Labour should have a functional Political Education Directorate - PED.
The political education directorate shall be responsible for indoctrinating new members with the ideologies of the party. Political ideology is lacking in Nigerian politics. People join the "winning party" or the one they think can win. Enough of that. Every member of Labour Party should go through LP's political school, subscribe to their political ideologies and be able to evangelize the same ideologies to others. Everything LP stands for including Manifestos should be established on the party's ideologies - not solely on candidates personal desires/ideas. Nobody should be allowed to run on the platform of LP until they have gone through the LP political foundation School.

The Labour Party should have huge control over its elected officials. If you win an election on the platform of LP, you cannot suddenly become more powerful than LP. The Party should charge a compulsory percentage of the salaries of her elected officials which should be paid into the party's account monthly.
This will discourage Political money gamblers from running on the party's platform.

And lastly, labour party should hold rallies quarterly - not just during election campaign seasons.
Labour Party should be seen on the streets campaigning for a better Nigeria, protesting against bad government and relating with the common Nigerian on the street. The chairman should do house to house visits once every week. It should be on his weekly routine to visit at least 5 Nigerian families every week, interact with them and document their experiences.

To be the game changer, Labour Party can no be just another BIG PARTY like PDP and APC... No. They should organise a Diaspora political interface where Nigerians in Diaspora can help shape politics in Nigeria for the benefit of Nigeria.

Labour Party can do so much starting from now until Peter Obi reclaims our mandate through the courts.
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Most of the points noted here are not practicable in a democracy like Nigeria .

1. Labour Party has just 6 senators out of 109 senatorial seats in the National Assembly while they have about 34 out of 360 seats in the HOR. If these members choose not to align with other members in the respective houses who are members of other parties; they won’t achieve anything in the house for the next 4 years . Nobody will give the bills they sponsor any reasonable consideration and they will end up not effecting any serious change . So yes, they will just have to make do with being “OH YES “ members while trying to build working relationship with other members of the house .

2. Mandating people to go through “LP’s political school “ will only mean the party will die a natural death . In fact, the party needs political aspirants more than the aspirants need LP. If u go to areas like Northeast and some parts of Southwest where the party has no reasonable foothold and u mandate people to go through any political school, they will just avoid the party like a plague and it will never grow beyond the level it is presently .The author seem to be getting carried away with the media frenzy surrounding the Obi-Datti movement forgetting LP is first of all a political through which different politicians in different states and localities hope to use as vehicle to actualize their dreams for the people they want to represent . If they try to force any ideology on people , they will help populate parties like YPP, SDP, ADC where such people will be forced to move to.

3. Charging political office holders money monthly will never work ; even if does it will be counter productive . Here is why : There’s no law either in the Nigerian constitution , electoral act or the party’s constitution that makes provision for such charges on the income of political office holders under the party. If LP decides to then amend its constitution to mandate people to make such payments to the party’s account monthly , it will only push members to dip their hands into the cookie jar; something we criticize APC and PDP house of assembly members for daily .

Look at it this way, u remember the NDDC off ur mic saga right ? U know the members of house committee on Niger Delta affairs have their hands serious dipped in corruption such that when Akpabio began naming names they had to shush him ? If the party takes a chunk of a LP house of assembly member’s income , they will have no choice but to make the shortfall through other means like receiving bribes for overseeing projects/contracts awarded by the executive and the whole corruption cycle continues . Nothing changes !

4. Lastly I don’t think political parties should be on the street protesting . It doesn’t look good ; let’s say there’s something like ENDSARS and u go there to find out it’s just LP as a party that is protesting it. It will make room for the ruling party to dismiss such protests as lacking merit . They will just see it as a party trying to take control of government through forceful means instead of the ballot box . Just one executive order and the party can even be deregistered ; the party leaders charged for treason and things will go south .

In order for labor party to consolidate on the success it has achieved thus far, it requires serious strategic thinking and not just 90% emotions, 10% thinking .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 6:32am On Mar 05, 2023
grin

Dr. Abah seems advising a particular moniker on this board.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by hopefulLandlord: 6:44am On Mar 05, 2023
OasisX:
😂😂😂

..... kinda miracle Canopians are expecting under Obi administration. LOL

this pales in comparison to what APC promised us in their campaigns in 2015 election

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 7:16am On Mar 05, 2023
Bombblacks:


* The concept of nothing belongs to metaphysics.

*The problem here is that you believe in every metaphysics mumbo jumbo you see. You don't know the difference between actual science and metaphysics. Cosmology and ontology are branches of metaphysics.


*Metaphysics is unscientific and redundant. I've always been and remain deeply sceptical of metaphysical arguments. They have the same major flaw as religion

*Asking "What exited before the Big Bang" is like asking "What is north of the North Pole." It's like asking "What is further center than the exact center." "Nothing" exists there because "there" doesn't exist.

Yea, I don't know the difference between actual science and metaphysics as a physicist, just like award-winning physicists that wrote books on Nothing.

But you, an ignorant person, that doesn't what cosmology and quantum physics are and doesn't know jack about Physics, do.

Ignorance is your problem, and you're even arrogant about it, which is why you assume matter (everything you see) has always existed like that even before the Big Bang.

Your knowledge of the subject is very limited. I don't have time to waste with you.

If you're not just rambling, you'd have a presented a solid argument against Nothing (yes, there's actually one) other than metaphysics mumbo-jumbo.

Maybe you just learned that term.

Anyway, you'll find proponents for Nothing among scientists that study the beginning and history of the Universe — cosmologists and astrophysicists.

They're just telling you before space, time, and matter were created by the Big Bang, a Vacuum or Nothing existed.

If you feel otherwise, tell me exactly what existed before space, time, and matter were created by the Big Bang.

Anyway, I don't expect someone that doesn't know who a cosmologist is to know. Your ignorance is legendary, the stuff of comedy.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 7:31am On Mar 05, 2023
Spy360:

In science nothing is actually 'something'.

It's like zero in mathematics. It means something.

A particle and it anti particle can collide and annihilate each other to become nothing. That nothing can also split into two (particle and anti-particle).
Nothing means Void or Vacuum in that sense, and nothing isn't splitting into a particle-antiparticle pair but is generating the pair.

Philosophers and physicists have said many things about Nothing.

The one I found most profound is what Otem and his people said about Nothing and the Beginning in his book:

"Everything has always existed since infinity, but everything was held together by a Force (Metosh), which is a very great source of energy. The Mass, the Water, the Light, the Substance, the Plant, the coagulation of
consciousness (souls) called Mirosh(God) and every other thing were held together by a great Force. If I or any of my siblings had been alive to witness their coexistence before the first big bang which pulled them apart, we would not have seen anything.

We would then conclude after the first big bang that everything came into existence by the explosion of Nothing. This is so because
everything came into existence from the things which exist but cannot be seen.
"

The highlighted gives one a solid argument against Nothing. But then, it's more reasonable to believe that a Vacuum existed before the Big Bang than to believe something existed since it has been proven empirically that something can arise out of nothing.

Matter as we know it hasn't always existed, especially before the Big Bang.

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