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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:49am On Mar 04, 2023 |
budaatum: I don't believe India's government endorses Hinduism. I think their constitution guarantees religious independence. In fact those walls are breaking down and it's causing issues for the religious minority groups. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/05/narendra-modi-india-religion-hindu-nationalism/630169/ I agree about the education, but you are talking about years and decades away. And honestly, some religious groups purposefully don't value Education, to keep people in line. I wouldn't trust any of the "election" results coming out of the government. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:22am On Mar 04, 2023 |
IjeBos:Somehow, I understand the opposite from the article you posted. It's title alone is The Hinduization of India Is Nearly Complete, which is already "serious issues for the religious minority groups", though we could argue if or how much the 'government' is pushing for its Hindustification especially if we exclude Hindu Modi from said government. "A Muslim minority would inevitably be subordinate to the Hindu majority" it says in what I could read in the link you posted, and from what I've heard, plurality is not guaranteed unless you are Hindu, despite the "constitution guarantees". People still need to be sufficiently educated and the law (constitution) enforced for any such guarantee to be worth the paper it's written on. IjeBos:At the rate we are going, with letting our schools be staffed mainly by ill-educated youth corpers and basilico like types, I'd say no less than 100 years or a generation at least, but that does not remove from the fact that education is what would move us away from the ignorance of tribalism and religion most hang on to, but I must say that the last election shows progress. Many Yorubas said emilokan my ass and voted for the Igbo guy instead of the alleged drug mule, which might have been the case a lot less just a decade ago. IjeBos:They don't need us to trust them. By golly, some here don't trust the elections in US, but Biden still gets 4 years in a White House. P.s. You said "argue" in a previous, and it disturbed me. I prefer "discuss", since I'm merely stating a view and an opinion instead of what could be called fact, which I do not have. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:13am On Mar 04, 2023 |
repost; coolusername, raumdeuter If we have learned anything in the protests, riots, looting, and violence that follows after the death of George Floyd, it is about the power of hate. All this started because a cop killed a man using a questionable technique for a ridiculously long time. This was yet another example of a police officer using his authority and position in this case literally, and the conversation should have been about the lack of training lack of discipline, lack of oversight and questionable hiring practices in police departments, but that did not happen because the officer Derek Chauvin is white and the man he killed, George Floyd is black. The conversation became all about racism even though it is not clear that racism was a factor in Chauvin’s actions. The usual suspects, like Black Lives Matter, Antifa and a number of other far left Marxist groups exploited the country's anger over Floyd's death and spun into little more than a mob revolt. For all the peaceful protests, there were riots, looting, shootings, stabbings, assaults, and murders, most of which were ignored or downplayed by the left leaning press in favour of the race based narratives: that all cops are racists and are hunting black people and that all white people are racist and need to apologize for the privilege of having low melanin. Even the peaceful protest evolved into pushing this narrative, which quickly led to some of the most openly racist language in the US in decades and virtually all of it directed at white people. Part of this is likely due to the countries Frustration to being in lockdown for months due to the global pandemic. There is only so long that most people can bear being kept inside, especially as the summer approach and the opportunity to go out and protest presented people with the chance to vent. An act that apparently PREVENTS THE SPREAD of the virus BUT ONLY WHEN THERE IS A PROTEST AGAINST RACISM or for abolishing the police, but that was only part of the reason. The real reason is that, this racial divide has been building up for years, Stoked primarily by the left pushed to the forefront by progressives, and finally evangelized by the Socialist Marxist fringes on the far left, and make no mistake, THIS HAS BECOME A RELIGION complete with it's Saints, it's doctrines, it's altars it’s questionable truths and it's demons. It's the demons we’re going to talk about because no mask movement works without a demon. Something to stoke the most potent unifying agent imaginable, hatred. Eric Hoffer best describes this in the book “The True Believer”. In the book, Hoffer Explains exactly how mass movements form, flourish and fail, and why most of those things happened. I could go on writing about this book for days because it so perfectly explains everything we witnessed not only in the Riots and events that took place after the death of George Floyd but since 2008. It explains the Tea Party, MODERN FEMINISM, Trump Derangement Syndrome, and what happened to the progressive left, specifically how the far left uses hatred to gain power. I am going to focus on Hoffer's section “The hatred” and I want you guys to keep the far left in mind because this is going to come together so fast it will be unreal, Hoffer says of hatred quote “hatred is the most successful and comprehensive of all unifying agents. It pulls in worldly individual away from his own self, makes him oblivious of his wheel and future breeze him of his jealousies and self-seeking. He becomes an anonymous particle quivering with the craving to fuse and coalesce with this like into one flaming mass”. And that's exactly what we saw in that riot with scores of people worldwide falling into this groupthink delusion that the world, the United States in particular has never been more racist. Racism is like the wolf loop sneaking between their collective social mass infecting them, making THEM carriers even when they show no symptoms. In the US, you know you could catch the racism and be racist without actually doing anything racist? Why, you can even marry a black woman, have bi-racial kids, and still be racist. For everyone with a functioning brain, that sounds ridiculous, but for the true believers it sounds like gospel but as Hoffer says, quote “mass movements can rise and spread without belief in God, but never without belief in the devil. Usually the strength of the mass movement is proportionate to the vividness intangibility of its devil. When Hitler was asked whether he thought the Jew must be destroyed, he answered: “No... we should have to invent him. It is essential to have a tangible enemy, not merely an abstract one.” Every mass movement works as a villain, an antagonist, an adversary, usually one who's presented as virtually omnipotent and omnipresent. The enemy can be defeated eventually, but not right now. Right now, the enemy is too strong, so strong that it is holding them back, preventing them from living their lives or pressing them in every waking moment, like when they go protesting in the hundreds of thousands in dozens of cities. Every local Government allows protesters to ignore health warnings in regard to the pandemic. When I say it out loud it sounds ridiculous, but this is exactly what happened. You have people screaming at cops and treating cops as if they were the secret police, but no one gets hit, No one gets silenced, and Few people get arrested, and many who were arrested, got released. It is all in their heads just like their claims about racism and white people. In a nation where they fought a civil war to abolish slavery, passed legislation in the heat of Jim Crow and segregation to protect the civil rights of people of all races, where the racist South voted in large numbers for the country's first black president BARRACK OBAMA; Not once but twice. because bots i stop here. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:34am On Mar 04, 2023 |
benalvino3: Supposedly, white people have never been more racist, they're so racist they don't even know they’re racists. In fact, when they claimed not to be racist, that is just their white fragility talking. As I said, it sounds silly, but it serves a purpose. As Hoffer recounts in his book, quote “F.A Voigt tells of a Japanese mission that arrived in Berlin in 1932 to study the nationalist socialist movement. Void asked a member of the mission what he thought of the movement. He replied, it is magnificent. I wish we could have something like that in Japan, only we can't because we haven't gotten any Jews. In other words, it is not an accident that the far left choose white people as its adversaries. This is a majority, in targeting them instantly conjures feelings of agreement from the disaffected, the people who usually make up the bulk of a mass movement. Hoffer breaks down disaffected into a series of groups. The poor, misfits, outcasts, minorities, adolescent, youth, ambitious, those in the grip of some advice, or obsession. The impotent in body or mind, the inordinately selfish, the board and the sinners. Most of those are self-explanatory, but I want to focus on two groups, the poor and the minorities. Hoffer breaks down the poor into several groups as well, the new poor and abjectly poor free poor, creative poor and unified poor. Again, most of those are self-explanatory. But he says at the end, gently poor that the quote Intensity of discontent is directly proportionate to the degree of misery. This content is likely to be the highest when misery is bearable in conditions have so improved that an ideal state seems almost within reach. A grievance is most poignant in his, almost redressed, In other words, the more you get what you want, the more you focus on the things you do not have when you look at racism in the West, especially in the US, it is largely reviled. Most people aren't overtly or covertly racist. They may have their biases, but few of these really rise to the level of Saying a Person is outright bigoted against an entire race of people. Minorities, for the most part, can reach any level of Western society. Even becoming the President of the United States, this doesn't mean that minorities won't face discrimination or that remnants of the country’s more racist Past doesn't still affect modern society, it only means that it's nowhere near as bad as it once was, and pretending that it is because you're not getting everything you want is insane, but it's also useful for mass movements because of a very basic reality, as Hoffer explained. Quote They who clamour. Loudest for freedom are often the ones least likely to be happy in a free society. . The frustrated oppressed by the shortcomings blame their failure on existing restraints. Actually, they're innermost desires for an end to the free, for all they want to eliminate free competition in the ruthless testing to which the individual is continually subjected in a free society. And I think the best illustration of this is a University of Washington saying that black students shouldn't face difficult exams in time restraints because they're too busy fighting for their rights, which, as far as I can tell, has been completely supported by the left. In general, black people in particular. Why would black People support this? Why would they support something that[b] basically says they're either too stupid or too lazy[/b], or both to pass basic exams? we should ask budaatum because he has supported something like this before concerning maths. you will hear in say maths is racist severally... it is because of that discussion we had were he outright support equity in maths for people of color. Why would anyone who felt that they were being thought less of as a result of their race support something that literally treats them like lesser beings because of their race? Hoffer gives a reason quote A minority is in the precarious position, however protected it maybe by law or force, the frustration engendered by the unavoidable sense of insecurity is less intense in the minority intent on preserving its identity. Then in one bent upon dissolving in and blending with the majority. Have you ever noticed that many minority communities, especially the black community, have a fixation on the idea of acting White? If a black American says, “listen to my voice. This is my white voice. This is literally how I taught myself to speak to get rid of the black accent”. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:45am On Mar 04, 2023 |
benalvino3, almost every time you mention me you lie about me. That's why I ignore you and know intelligent people would too. Perhaps next time show evidence for what you claim buda said. It might make you seem less of a liar. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:55am On Mar 04, 2023 |
benalvino3: How will they do that? By pronouncing words as properly as he can by speaking basic proper American English, and that alone means he is acting white being smart, not even doing well in school but literally, just being intelligent and showing it is ACTING WHITE. I could go down the list of all the random things that can result in acting white accusations and you'll quickly notice a pattern. All of these things are the norm there. What the majority who happens to be white does. The real issue isn't that the majority is white, but that the majority Isn't black. Black people have no separate identity, no group identity outside of what was forced on them by virtue of being slaves, and so the underlying desire within the black community as a whole is to fit in, to dissolve into the majority. But they can't, they're aware of how they're different, and so, as Hoffer says, quote [b]“in the minority bent on simulation, the individual stands alone, pitted against prejudice and discrimination. He is also burdened with a sense of guilt, however vague, of a renegade. The Orthodox Jew is less frustrated than the emancipated chew, the segregated Negro in the South is less frustrated than a non-segregated Negro in the north. Again within a minority bent on the assimilation, the least and most successful (economically and culturally) are likely to be more frustrated than those in between. The man who fails to see himself as an outsider; and, in the case of a member of Minority Group who wants to blend with the majority, failure intensifies the feeling of not belonging. And that's what we've been seeing when you think about all the complaints about representation, what do they usually come down to? desire to be the norm, the majority, to fit in, it’s not just enough to have black characters, they have to be the main characters. Always good, always better than the usual majority and always love. Nothing irritates the woke blacks more than people rejecting their attempt to replace the majority with the minority. Because you're rejecting their attempt to fit in. Unless you accept them, then they're even more pissed which makes no sense until you realize the problem. If you accept them, they become the norm. They become assimilated and they lose their unique identity, the only way this works is if they remain this perpetual state of almost being accepted the moment they're completely rejected or accepted the whole thing breaks down. This is why having a common threat of hatred is so powerful because it allows them to transfer that need of identity away from assimilation. Hoffer gets into this quote, common hatred unites the most heterogeneous elements. To share a common hatred, with an enemy even, is to infect him with the feeling of kinship, and thus sap is powers of resistance. Hitler used anti-Semitism not only to unify his Germans, but also to sap the resoluteness Jew-hating Poland, Romania, Hungary and finally even France. He made a similar use of anti communism. This explains a constant refrain of everything being white supremacy. White people have become a singular devil, so every ill even something like police brutality, which happens more at whites than blacks suddenly stems from white supremacy. Everything goes back to whiteness being evil, infecting everything and being everywhere. As Hoffer says, quote Again like an ideal deity, the ideal devil is omnipotent and omnipresent. When Hitler was asked whether he was not attributing rather too much importance to the Jews. He exclaimed: no, no, no! it’s impossible to exaggerate the formidable quality of the Jew as an enemy. Every difficulty and failure within the movement is the work of the devil, and every success is a triumph over his evil plotting. It's like I'm reading from a Black Lives Matter play book, isn't it? or feminist playbook or Marxist playbook? Or a NEO con playbook? You could find that one group to hate to pin everything on and then milk it. Make it so that the most benign things, even faults and conflicts within your own movement go back to this all powerful ever present devil(white Supremacy). Chicago Mayor losing her office is a good example. it was because of her Gender and racism. Winsome Sears Virginia lieutenant governor, first female and woman of color in the office. The left blamed her victory on white supremacy. What really gets interesting is that one of the driving elements of Black Lives Matter is allyship, getting people to share their hatred directed at white people, especially if those people are themselves white. Hoffer says this about allies' quote WE DO NOT USUALLY LOOK FOR ALLIES WHEN WE LOVE. Indeed, we often look on those who love us as rivals and trespassers, BUT WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR ALLIES WHEN WE HATE. it is understandable that we should look for other so side with us when we have just grievance and crave to retaliate against those who wronged us. I think this has become very obvious over the past year. What begins as a reasonable question about how cops treats black People quickly dissolved into labeling society, The West and white people in particular, as uniformly racist and demanded that everyone agree with this. Literally, upon pain of property destruction, social harassment, better known as cancel culture, and flat out physical violence. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:58am On Mar 04, 2023 |
People have lost their jobs for disagreeing with BLM or saying something as benign as all lives matter or for their wives making statements on social media. All of this shows that the hatred being displayed by BLM and likeminded black people general, along with all the others, is mostly unreasonable and unjustified. The intensity of the anger is well beyond what actually happens to the point that we're treating clear situations of cops defending themselves as first-degree felony murder. We're seeing numerous examples of black people threatening or attacking white people, who then defend themselves, and that reasonable defense is being treated as yet another example of white supremacy as Hoffer asked quote whence come these unreasonable hatreds, and why their unifying effect? They are an expression of a desperate effort to suppress an awareness of our inadequacy. Worthlessness, guilt and other shortcomings of the self. self-contempt is here transmuted into hatred of others. And there is a most determined and persistent work to mask this switch I'm not going to mince words. The black community doesn't really think highly of itself. The community itself smacks down any black people or attempt to show genuine pride in who they are. The more individualized that pride, the more anger and resentment is sparks. Ironically, if you achieve any real success. You're expected to give back to the community that shunned you, even as they keep showing you. so when you have a group of people who genuinely believe they're lesser than those around them, anything that points that out will anger them, but nothing nearly as much as pointing out that most of that is self-imposed. It could stop if they wanted it to. They have the power to lift themselves out of their situation. Not entirely, but mostly they have a bum leg, but they can still stand. they're just choosing not to, and waiting for someone to pull them up and hold them. But when someone tries to do it, they slap away their hand and when someone else with a bum leg gets up on his own, they either shut him down or cheers success and in both cases expect him to take them with him. All while trashing him for doing something they didn't even try to do now, that doesn't mean that black people don't face social problems that make it harder for them to achieve things. That would be a lie, but most of those problems are nowhere near what they used to be, not in the West, and definitely not in the US. It may be harder for them in certain circumstances, but it's not impossible. And that scares a lot of black people because it would mean they are responsible for their own situation and not someone else. Hoffer explains this quote even in the case of adjust grievance, our hatred comes less from a wrong done to us that from the consciousness of our helplessness, inadequacy and cowardice. In other words, from self-contempt. When we feel superior to our tormentors, We're likely to despise them, even pity them, but not hate them. That the relation between grievance and hatred is not simple and direct is also seen from the fact that the released hatred is not always directed against those who wronged us. Often, when we are wronged by one person, we turn our hatred on a wholly unrelated person or group. I think this is what's happening with targeting white people. The complaint really should be directed at the individuals responsible or the government and social institutions. Not entire race of people and black people know this. This is why so many have redefined racism to require institutionalized power, because if they didn't, their actions and attitudes will be considered racist. They try to cover up their unjust attitudes and actions. Specifically, their overt racism towards white people, which incidentally gives white people a damn good grievance against black people. Hoffer gets into this quote. [b]There's perhaps no sure way of infecting ourselves with virulent hatred toward a person than by doing him a grave injustice, the others have a just grievance against us is a more potent reason for hating them Than that we have a just grievance against them, we do not make people humble and meek when we show them their fault and cause them to be ashamed of themselves, we are more likely to stir their arrogant and rouse him into a reckless aggressiveness. Self-righteousness is a loud din raised to drown the voice of guilt within us. and that's exactly what we've been seeing over the last few years, with articles and respected magazines and papers stating that white people will be the minority and that they will be bred out of existence that talk only Stokes are very white kinship that these activists claim they don't want to see where it gets really interesting is that ultimately, black People want to be white, not skin wise, but socially they want to be the norm. The preferred, the desired. The majority. They have this weird admiration for why people, even as a hate them and Hoffer explains this quote. It is easier to hate an enemy with much good in him than one who is all bad. We cannot hate those we despise. The Japanese had an advantage over us and that they admired us more than we admired them. They could hate us more fervently than we could hate them. The Americans are poor haters in international affairs because of their innate feeling of superiority over all foreigners. And Americans hatred for a fellow American is far more virulent than any antipathy he can work up against foreigners. It is of interest that the backward South shows more xenophobia than the rest of the country. Should Americans begin to hate foreigners wholeheartedly, it will be an indication that they have lost confidence in their own way of life. This goes to show that this mentality isn't limited to the left. It affects everyone. Offer also mentions another interesting trait. These groups copy the people they hate quote the undercurrent of admiration and hatred manifests itself in the inclination to imitate those we hate. thus every mass movement shapes itself after its specific devil. Christianity at its height Realized the image of the Antichrist. The Jacobins practiced all the evils of the tyranny they had risen against. Soviet Russia is realizing the purest and most colossal example of monopolistic capitalism. Hitler took the protocols of the wise Men of Zion for his guide and textbook; He followed them down to the veriest detail. This is why you're seeing so many anti fascists behaving like fascists. Why feminists push sexist policies. Why the Black Lives Matter movement sounds like the Ku Klux Klan. It's not an accident like Hoffer says quote. It is startling to see how the oppressed almost invariably shape themselves in the image of their hated oppressors, that the evil men do lives after them is partly due to the fact that those who have reason to hate the evil most shape themselves after it and thus perpetuating it is obvious, therefore, that the influence of the fanatic is bound to be out of all proportion to his abilities, both by converting and antagonizing, he shapes the world in his own image. Thus, though hatred is a convenient instrument for mobilizing the community for defense, it does not in the long run, come cheap. We pay for it by losing all or many of the values we have set out to defend. And that's what we're seeing. The far left has become the very totalitarian authoritarian force it hates. Black Lives Matter is as racist as a white supremacy sees a lurking in every good credit score. All this does is destroy any ability to uphold the values they claim they hold. You can't be anti-racist and say white people have no identity but black people do. You can't be anti-racist if you want black people to face lesser sentences and charges. You can't be anti-racist if you want black people to have easier exams to pass or greater access to jobs and anyone else or be allowed to use abusive and bigoted language, no one else can use. You can't be anti-racist if you support people targeting white people for abuse and violence because they're white. All of these things undermine the values they claim they hold and will only lead to more problems, not less as a great short Green Man once said, fear leads to anger, Anger leads to hate, Hate leads to suffering. Nothing good comes from the race baiting we're seeing from the far left. It will only further divide people and ironically gives a target of that hatred. White people a genuine valid reason to fear and hate black people. they're creating the very monster they seek to destroy. And as history has shown, it's not a monster they can control. So maybe they want to dial it back before they find themselves on the receiving end of an AR15. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:15am On Mar 04, 2023 |
benalvino3: I cringe any time I read your advocacy for white interests and talking points, even much more than most known white extremists. You isolate issues from their real context in order angelize extreme right wing talking points and agenda and the demonize any black relate issue. You take the George Floyd saga in isolation and causally attribute it to "lack of training lack of discipline, lack of oversight and questionable hiring practices in police departments", asking the blacks and the world to forget decades of racism they had undergone in the US. You are asking blacks in the US to forget Amadou Diallo, who was shot 41 times by police officers in front of his house. You are asking blacks in the US to forget about Oscar Grant,who was shot in the back with his hands tied behind his back by police officers, you are asking blacks for forget about Micheal Brown, Eric Gardner, Gary King Jr, and so many young men who were needlessly killed by white police officers. And worst of all, you are saying that the civil right movement never happened, that police did not kill black youths sometimes setting dogs on unarmed black protesters. To you these events were as a result of "the lack of training lack of discipline, lack of oversight and questionable hiring practices in police departments" I am sure If you were a police officer that was deployed to quell a protest or riot by "Black Lives Matter, Antifa and a number of other far left Marxist groups" as you call them, you would be more brutal than even white police officers as your hatred for blacks is even more than those of white supremacist s." To you the whites had actually been victims of unfair treatment in the US. I must confess to say that I have not seen or even heard of a sicker black man. 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeepSight(m): 10:44am On Mar 04, 2023 |
wirinet: Well said. What is suffered here is a terrible disease of self hatred and inferiority complex from cultural brain washing which some black people have: they are mentally and spiritually enslaved to the idea of white sainthood and supremacy. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:53am On Mar 04, 2023 |
wirinet:the last time i talked about police brutality and complained CNN is making it about white supremacy when all the idiots are black men. you read my statement and said I AM SUPPORTING THE MURDER OF A BLACK MAN. even with my disdain for what happened and hoping the killers(the cops) will rot in jail. I don't have support for whites... I am just against racism like you display towards white people sometimes. i did not see you counter any point i said, yet you go back to history when blacks were being treated like animals. if you bothered to read my post, you would have known that i addressed that modestly... my post is about modern day movement and how hatred has power of unity. I am not specifically talking about Blacks, i was talking about the left in general, feminists etc. it just happens to be that Floyd and what happened after his death was the inspiration behind the post. wirinet:to you everything is racism... just as i pointed out. you become what you are fighting against. you are fighting racism and so you become a racist. wirinet:all you mentioned are legit concerns... obviously some are racists cops and some are not because white people have died in the same manner from your mentions above. i am surprised that each time i point out the fact that people (white or black) die in the hands of cops in the same manner, you close your eyes and ears. wirinet: Like you lied in the past and haven't shown any proof of where i supported the killing of a black man by 5 cops... you are lying again... like before, show me where i said the civil right movement never happened? wirinet:or is it lack of comprehension from you part. where are you getting all this your crap? show me any evidence that Chauvin is a racist prior to that event. wirinet: it is not as i call them... they are Marxist groups. even BLM label themselves like that. the only one who has hatred for blacks are people like you who excuse nonsense and blame other people because of the color of their skin. you are even proving my points based on what you are responding to. you are full of hate and will have this kind of mentality till you realized that what happened in the past to blacks was bad, people who did that to them are all gone you did not suffer it whites fought a civil war to end slavery and died the kkk was not invented for blacks alone this is 2023, a lot has changed. stop clinging to hate and move forward. What happened to Floyd was awful... but it happened to Tony Timper before Floyd... not a word of racism or police brutality from you and your leftoids. Timper was white, the Officers that pained him where both white and blacks. A 16-Year-Old kid was killed by a white police officer. he is white, following all the commands the police were giving him, unarmed and had his hands on his head. put your hate for white people aside and try to treat everyone equally. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:11pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Food for thought. 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 1:21pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
basilico: as wirinet isa put ah it. isa racism white ah supremacy ye 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:02pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Food Deserts: Thomas Sowell vs Leftwing Media https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8J-9uUnfc Why Poor Black People Pay More For Food | Thomas Sowell Andrew Young's statement that blacks have been ripped off by stores run by Jews, Koreans, and Arabs has been rightly criticized and he has apologized. But these irresponsible remarks have wider implications than Andrew Young and wider implications than their political repercussions. For decades one of the biggest blind spots of most civil rights leaders and spokesmen for the black comma. Already has been their utter lack of knowledge of economics. As a purely factual matter, prices do tend to be higher, and the quality of service and products is lower in stores in low-income neighborhoods. But the knee-jerk assumption that this represents exploitation or racism ignores the economics of the situation. Many of the ghetto stores charging high prices are struggling to survive, while supermarkets and other neighborhoods are very profitable charging lower. Prices. There are many reasons for this. The reason, least likely to be acknowledged by those who blame the store owners, is that crime, shoplifting, vandalism, and riots have raised the costs, both directly and by causing insurance rates and the costs of security to be higher in ghetto neighborhoods. The costs of delivering goods to small neighborhood stores are also higher than the costs of delivering goods to huge supermarkets. Delivering 100 cartoons of milk to a supermarket is cheaper than delivering 10 cartoons of milk to each of 10 local stores scattered around town. Selling the customer $50 worth of groceries in the supermarket takes less time than selling 10 customers $5 worth of groceries in a little neighborhood store. Faster turnover is one of the keys to a supermarket's lower prices. A supermarket can prosper with one cent of clear profit on each dollar of sales because that dollar comes back to be reused again and again in the course of a year. If the inventory of the supermarket sells out in two weeks, that one cent comes back 26 times in the course of a year. This means that a penny of profit on a dollar from each sale becomes more than 1/4 of a dollar annually. Few local stores can match that. Not only are the delivery and overhead costs of the local store likely to be higher, the slowness with which its inventory turns over means that even higher prices may not fully compensate for such differences. The cumulative effect of such cost differences is that prices are often higher and at the same time, profit rates are lower in poor neighborhoods. One of the factors limiting what a ghetto store can charge is that many ghetto residents already shop in other neighborhoods. When the price savings are enough to cover bus fares or taxi fares, every increase in prices risks losing still more customers. Many of the same black leaders who accuse local store owners of making exorbitant profits also complained that supermarkets seldom locate in ghetto neighborhoods. Do they think supermarkets are against making money if ghettos are so profitable? The poor quality of many goods and of the service in ghetto stores is also a result of what has happened in these neighborhoods over the years. My niece, living in the same Harlem neighborhood where I grew up in the 1940s, often complained of rude service and bad quality goods, as well as their high prices, complaints that were not at all what I experienced growing up in that same neighborhood. There were far more scores back in the 1940s, and it would have been financial suicide for any given store to treat its customers the way ghetto stores can get away with treating them today. What happened in between ghetto riots happened to begin in the 1960s. Many stores that were looted or burned out in those riots never reopened, nor were many other people ready to come in from outside to replace them. Nor were local residents. People who have neither the efficiency nor the courtesy to compete with other stores in middle-class neighborhoods can survive running ghetto stores because of a lack of competition. Many black leaders and spokesmen who romanticized ghetto riots as uprisings against oppression are now displaying their ignorance of both history and economics. Those ghetto residents who had nothing to do with those riots are still paying the price. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 2:09pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
benalvino3:I noticed you avoided my request for a citation, to a claim you made. Yeah, no look up the study and graphs of CO2 concentration in the atmosphere and how it fluctuates, between seasons and over the centuries, and how different the recent (post industrial revolution "1850" ) increase is from historic increases. If you're referring to the ice ages, the primary believed cause to the end of those were the Milankovitch cycles (tilt, and nature of the Earth's orbit around the sun). "Prior to the Industrial Revolution, CO2 levels were consistently around 280 ppm for almost 6,000 years of human civilization." https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/carbon-dioxide-now-more-than-50-higher-than-pre-industrial-levels The cows we farm and deforestation we've caused? So you agree that human activity produces a net increase in carbon emissions? Volcanic activities are trackable, It'd be easy to account for them, which climate scientist already have. The rates of CO2 in the atmosphere has been stable for of thousand years, the only x factor right now is human industrialisation. Natural changes in CO2 concentration doesn't happen as fast as it is happening right now now. Let me turn this on you, can you in good conscience say that humans haven't been burning a sh!t ton of fuel which were naturally trapped carbon and releasing large quantities of CO2 into the atmosphere and The demand for energy and rate of burning has only been going up in the past century, and this does not have some kind of measurable effect on the environment? Can you give me the rate of the expansion and heating of the sun, how you've gotten your measurements and drawn your conclusion that it is this heating and expansion that's responsible? Considering you rejected the comparative of solar activity to earth temperature I provided. If by the "effects of the moon" , you're referring to the Milankovitch cycles, then yes these are also accounted for, and don't seem to be the cause of the rapid increase in temps either. Yes, you would be correct the average temp of the earth has increased by 1°c, and the tipping point is considered to be 2°c. Just for a reference on what these numbers would feel like, a drop of 1°c in the last century was all that was needed to cause a mini ice age. And in real time an increase of over 1°c would mean more heat waves, more evaporation of water = more droughts in some places, and intense storms in others, among other effects. We are able to measure the type of isotope of carbon in the atmosphere fam. And know that the increase in CO2 is in fact from burning fossil fuel. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7757245/ Plenty of alternatives exist to our energy needs. From Nuclear to geothermal, but fossil fuel has strong grip on the industry. I think carbon taxes are some lib sh!t solutions, I don't have reason to think it works. I'd support a more radical approach, like cutting all fuel subsidies, and forcing the fuel industry to gradually cut back production, while redirecting subsidies and investments into renewables and nuclear. As well as a build up of infrastructure to support EVs and trains for public transport, and a redesign of cities to be less car centric and more walkable and bikeable, something a number of European cities already have (the Netherlands).
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:25pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
DeusXmachina: Deforestation occurs naturally through bush fires etc. Breathing happens Naturally, animals like cows are needed to sustain civilization. unless you are Suggesting we kill Cows and Stop having birth like some lunatic Liberals, I don't see how you can solve that Natural occurrence. they say the earth without Human activities experienced climate change we are experiencing today... So climate change is inevitable. there are lots of BS Nasa will put out to support their stance so i don't take much of what they say seriously. it is just like watching professors say there is no difference in man and woman. these are experts who are making such claims. Last 22k years of global temperature? I will take this one with a grain of salt. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 2:32pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
armyofone:Well, I hope he's a marginally better president than Buhari at least. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 3:07pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
DeusXmachina: Tbf that's an incredibly low bar to cross |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:53pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
budaatum: To be clear, Government endorsed to me means explicitly endorsed in the constitution. What is happening now is the government pseudo endorsing the religion by passing laws friendly to the religion, bypassing the constitution. That's what happens when you have a weak judicial system. Kind of what is happening in the US now with the Supreme Court. The article was meant to show the dangers to minority groups. In Nigeria though the Christian "minority" group is much much larger and it's "regions" account for greater economic development. budaatum: This is a false equivalency. The trust in the US system isn't because the Government says to Trust it. It is the system of checks and balances from hand recounts, to chain of custody of the ballots to an independent judiciary that lends it Trust. Just because nuts decided it was rigged doesn't make it so. On the other hand, the Nigerian election seemed to be rigged. I heard too many of my friends with Igbo names who tried multiple times and couldn't get their voting cards in Lagos. The day of I saw ballots on the floor in polling stations. Police officers in a government police vehicle obstructing and even destroying ballots. If that did in fact happen, did any of those officers face justice? In the US that alone would be enough for the judiciary to declare a new election at a minimum in those polling places and a wider investigation as to who ordered it and far how up it went. How can you have structures of Government power cheating and people claiming the election was fair? Do you think it was fair? budaatum: This is what I mean by "argument" or "what are you trying to argue". Also I'm CompE so the term argument in discission is more benign to me. a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Insuranceguid(m): 7:01pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
I don't understand |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:40am On Mar 05, 2023 |
IjeBos: We differ on this fact. India government seems to pseudo endorse their freedom of religion, but reports seem to suggest they are bypassing their own constitution. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0dkb144 IjeBos:This is what many of us Obidients are claiming, and I can't see how we differ from the nuts in America who claim dump won. We lost, and my advise to us is we dust ourselves off and prepare better for 4 years time while hoping Obi prevails in court.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:01am On Mar 05, 2023 |
benalvino3:Your write up is like one ignorantly claiming that EndSars was sparked by one single incident. I guess you think most are unaware like you are that it started long before George Floyd. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:38am On Mar 05, 2023 |
budaatum: I lie? Lol, you are the one who openly support a proposed instruction in maths that says having blacks and Latinx student get the right answer or show their work in mathematics is akin to white supremacy. That is a fact not a lie. That book implied that blacks and Latinx can't do well, so they need equity in maths. Funny enough, they are receiving the same lectures whites are getting, the same exams and assignments but somehow you support equity for black and Latinx. They should not fail blacks and Latinx if they fail exam, they should not show their work, they should not work on assignments individually, only whites should fail and show their works. White supremacy must be dismantled in math instruction by passing people who fail. Funny enough, you show support for a book that supports equity in maths for black people. But when I ask you if you want that for your kids you said no. 3 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:18am On Mar 05, 2023 |
budaatum: This happened 11days ago. And I am sure you did not hear about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bpgyJH9-1o I don't blame the police entirely for shooting him. You should not get in a struggle with the cops. They want to arrest you just set your hands. I know there are some cops like the idiots that killed that black man. They were beating him for no reason. But again, in a situation like this, I can show you a video where the man they want to arrest takes their gun and shoot at them. The question your photo ask, 1 it could be racism 2 lack of training 3 resisting or dangerous suspect. It is always one of this 3. It happens to whites too though. In my post, I was talking about the modern day riot and the attitude towards white people or anyone that disagree. I am not talking about the origin of police brutality or racism. If you read it... Or understand it... You will know that I gave specifics of what I was talking about. People lost their jobs because their wife posted something online like "all lives matter" 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:05am On Mar 05, 2023 |
benalvino3: Title of the video you posted is, Colorado sheriff's deputy shoots, kills unarmed man outside school, but not only do you not blame the police for shooting him, you don't seem to want to blame the police for shooting any of the unharmed people police shoot. Thankfully, many courts do not agree with you. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:10am On Mar 05, 2023 |
benalvino3: There you go with your lies again. Why would I want equity in maths for my kids when I can educate my kids myself to have superior education in maths? Dude, I think English is a problem for you. Not many parents want equity in maths or education for their kids. That's why we pay to send them to good schools so they can get a superior education. But I understand your dilemma. If you had paid school fees instead of accepting the free inferior education you got you'd not be so dumb. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:23am On Mar 05, 2023 |
budaatum: Lmao... it is you who have serious issues with comprehension. I said you support a book promoting equity for blacks and Latinx in maths but When I asked you if you want equity in maths for your kids you said no that is the funny thing here. you are confused do you have issues comprehending? My issue here are you supporting something you think is bad for your own kids. the Book is about equity for Black and Latinx students, you supported the book by arguing with me for days but you don't want what the book is proposing for your kids... you did this same crap recently with the explicit contents in books... you said you are not supporting the books being in the schools then you went on to say it is the parents that are sneaking in the books to make the school look bad. No evidence to prove you Q-anon BS... you just spill it out. no interest in the schools part... just that people are trying to make them look bad. 5 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:35am On Mar 05, 2023 |
450 BLM protesters were arrested during the summer of love George Floyd ( who once robbed woman by pointing a gun to her stomach) riots. They sued and each has been awarded $21K . Part of it because police officers responding to protests frequently failed to wear masks or to assist detained protestors in covering their noses and mouths, and on occasion even forcibly removed protestors' masks, exposing them to a heightened risk of contracting Covid-19." |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:42am On Mar 05, 2023 |
budaatum: I did not blame the officer? Lmao... okay, i am quoting myself for what i actually said. and Notice the Bolds or highlighted words. first bold: says I don't BLAME the Police entirely... what does that mean? When someone says "I don't blame you entirely," it means that they hold some level of responsibility or fault, but they do not attribute all of the blame to the person they are speaking to. Essentially, they are acknowledging that the other person had some involvement in the situation or issue, but they are not solely responsible for it. This can be a way to express criticism or dissatisfaction while still maintaining some level of understanding or empathy toward the other person. I hope this helps you See the Second Bold: I acknowledge instances where comes are just out to shoot someone or a black man especially when it is a racist cop. benalvino3: 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:46am On Mar 05, 2023 |
basilico: Mask that did not prevent the spread of the virus. I hope they will do the same to the Jan 6 rioters hahahahaha 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Jokerman(m): 11:11am On Mar 05, 2023 |
Trump is back |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:38pm On Mar 05, 2023 |
Budaatum n Ibime Health Secretary Hancock wondering when to deploy the next variant and scare people off. Boris bans Xmas 5 days later. The truth will be out one day. Hancock wanted to ‘deploy’ new Covid variant and ‘frighten Day 5 of the Telegraph’s Lockdown Files and the most startling stories yet. Here’s what’s new: 1. Matt Hancock asked when he could ‘deploy the variant’ When the more contagious Alpha (then ‘Kent’) variant started spreading in December 2020, many were scared. Good, thought Hancock. The former health secretary told his adviser that ‘we [can] frighten the pants of [sic] everyone with the new strain’ on 13 December, and wondered when ‘do we deploy the new variant’. Five days later, Boris Johnson cancelled Christmas. 2. Simon Case saw the benefit in fear-mongering https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/hancock-wanted-to-deploy-new-covid-variant-and-frighten-the-pants-off-everyone/ Homepage. I don't have a subscription https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/04/boris-johnson-lockdown-sceptic-zealot-covid-whatsapp-cummings/ |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 5:51pm On Mar 05, 2023 |
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