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Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan: 12:28am On Mar 08, 2023 |
garfield1: Don't be too sure of that though.. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 12:31am On Mar 08, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan: See buhari vs obj 2003,buhari vs yaradua 2007,atiku vs Buhari 2019... |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 12:33am On Mar 08, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan: This thing is very simple.get result sheets from thousands of polling units showing that you won or get adhoc staffs,party agents to testify that transmission never took place. 2 Likes |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan: 12:39am On Mar 08, 2023 |
garfield1:Yess. I understand this one very well. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by 0monnak0da: 12:39am On Mar 08, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan:What did Yaradua get in Abuja in 2007? |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by fergie001: 12:42am On Mar 08, 2023 |
garfield1:Only the drafters of the Constitution cam say so. Now colloquially or literally,when we talk of the component units,we usually say 36 states and fct. They could have said "and in the fct" afterall they started with in each of at least. What the bolded simply states is that the FCT is not a State (it is distinct), even though it should be treated as if it was a State. (Simile "as" -emphasis mine). Whilst the States enjoy Executive powers through their Govs, legislative powers through their SHAs, the FCT is led by the NA and the executive powers vested in the President. The Constitution will have been using 37 States if the FCT wasn't meant to be distinguishable. However, the "in" you brought in there I am sure is what Agim will use in dismissing the case.😁 1 Like |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by fergie001: 12:48am On Mar 08, 2023 |
0monnak0da:Are you sure that election even had an official results? Remembering that election gives me PTSD! |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan: 12:52am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001:Even though the FCT is not a state, but the Constitution needed to bundle it together with the other states without separating it, then it would have said “The 37 Sub-National Units”.. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by 0monnak0da: 12:58am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001:The point is that case went all the way to the Supreme Court The25% Abuja issue is a non issue In 2007 there was no state breakdown released just national total The other problem is by the time the case is decided Tinubu would have been sworn in which gives an unfair advantage In 2019 the judgment came in October In This case there are now 3 parties. If we don't change the system so that cases are resolved before swearing in then it is a waste of time. The president has too much power and the Supreme Court judges are not clean. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by NothingDoMe: 1:00am On Mar 08, 2023 |
0monnak0da:In 2007, Maurice Iwu refused to publish the scores States by States including Abuja but allocated 69.6% to Musa Yar’Adua. Culled. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by 0monnak0da: 1:01am On Mar 08, 2023 |
NothingDoMe:But the Supreme Court saw nothing wrong with that? |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:15am On Mar 08, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan: And it must be so overwhelming that it can change the final outcome or course of the election.it must affect the margin bw tinubu and atiku at least 2 Likes |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:21am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001: True.for purposes of stability,they apex court won't want a rerun or something that will heat the polity just like in 1979.kekere ekun might read it. Though the fct is not a state but has similarities or features of a state in many ways like in state capital,agencies,etc.it is more or less a quasi or half state.so to avoid confusion,the constitution prescribes it to be treated and administered as if it was a state to avoid confusion and also to engender inclusion.if it was less of a state,they won't include it as part of the spread but since sect 299 sees it as a state,we must include her not elevate her above states. 3 Likes |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by Genius100: 1:23am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001: This analogy doesn't work. The verbiage can't read "36 states including FCT" because the FCT is technically not a state. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:25am On Mar 08, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan: Yes in order to avoid the voodoo confusion of 1979.therefore,we will calculate two third and add fct making it 25 states/fct.the constitution hardly uses words like including, plus so they couldn't have said plus or including fct |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by Genius100: 1:25am On Mar 08, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan: Lol. They attempted to transmit but it didn't work. This argument is really going nowhere.. 1 Like |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:27am On Mar 08, 2023 |
0monnak0da: True.there is no way the apex court will order a rerun when tinubu is on seat.I think before the elections,parties should have aporoaced the court to interpret that section or states can still approach the apex court to do that |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:30am On Mar 08, 2023 |
Genius100: Apart from that,there are two mode of transmission,online and offline.if they couldn't transmit it due to network,they will transmit it on offline mode thereby satisfying the requirement of transmission.it would show sent or pending which takes it out of their hands 2 Likes |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by Genius100: 1:32am On Mar 08, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan: Who is supposed to enter the results into the CSRVS system from the polling unit? As far as I know, the polling unit workers are only supposed to take a picture of the result sheet, and the image (not numbers) gets uploaded into iREV. So how does the result get inputted into CSRVS system? 2 Likes |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by NothingDoMe: 1:35am On Mar 08, 2023 |
Section 66 Nigeria Electoral Act 2022 Declaration of result In an election to the office of the President or Governor whether or not contested and in any contested election to any other elective office, the result shall be ascertained by counting the votes cast for each candidate and subjected to the provisions of sections 133, 134 and 179 of the Constitution, the candidate that receives the highest number of votes shall be declared elected by the appropriate returning officer. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:38am On Mar 08, 2023 |
Genius100: Good.now that is where the question of intendment will come in.what is or can possibly be their nearest intendment? To include fct in the spread or make it mandatory in fct? Now in the 1979 constitution,there was no mention of the then capital as part of the requirement.therefore,it is clear that their first intendment is to make fct part of the spread in the 1999 constitution before thinking of making the fct mandatory for the spread 1 Like |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by NothingDoMe: 1:38am On Mar 08, 2023 |
INEC erred in my opinion. They did not comply with section 66 of the electoral act. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:39am On Mar 08, 2023 |
Genius100: The ratech intercepts the captured image and then approves final upload |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by fergie001: 1:41am On Mar 08, 2023 |
0monnak0da:Not just the Supreme Court but the Appeal as well. It is almost a tradition that members who give favourable judgement end up at the SC: In 2007, Chairman of the Appeal panel, Justice Ogebe was elevated a week before the judgement could be read. It will be the 8th wonder of the world if the appeal succeeds. 1 Like |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by Genius100: 1:45am On Mar 08, 2023 |
garfield1: So does the ratech translate the image into numbers for collation purposes or is that to be done by a human being at the collation center? |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:49am On Mar 08, 2023 |
Genius100: No,they approve final uploads.numbers are from accreditation data. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 1:51am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001: Again,justice ikyegh the lead judge was part of the 2019 pept.it is not that they are corrupt but for security reasons,it is best to uphold the status quo according to prof bonchuks,ex security expert in unical |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by fergie001: 1:59am On Mar 08, 2023 |
garfield1: Who will order the re-run? Ariwoola who will chair the SC, or Kekere-Ekun (next CJN) who must be in the panel or Okoro who will want to later be CJN? If Centus Nweze is on the panel, he will dissent, that's sure and he will be because he is the only SEner in the SC. The SC might sit in seven because of the FCT Constitutional issue. Though the fct is not a state but has similarities or features of a state in many ways like in state capital,agencies,etc.it is more or less a quasi or half state.so to avoid confusion,the constitution prescribes it to be treated and administered as if it was a state to avoid confusion and also to engender inclusion.if it was less of a state,they won't include it as part of the spread but since sect 299 sees it as a state,we must include her not elevate her above states. It is a settled principle of interpretation that a provision of the Constitution or a statute should not be interpreted in isolation but rather in the context SECTION 299: The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly - (a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja; (b) all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and (c) the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section. What this means is that, the Constitution specifies CLEARLY where the FCT should enjoy its STATE status and no more. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by fergie001: 2:02am On Mar 08, 2023 |
garfield1:They pick from different Zones Garba - NW Oseji - SS Ikyegh - NC Akeju - SW Can't remember the last person! Again Oseji and Garba went up. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 2:04am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001: You said ekwo doesnt have age on his side.he is too controversial and radical to be in the apex. If fct will be a state only in the aforementioned areas,then it becomes less of a state which means it cannot take part in the two third calculus talkless of being mandatory. |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by garfield1: 2:06am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001: Rtd JSC abdu aboki from kano so it can't he zonally |
Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by 0monnak0da: 2:12am On Mar 08, 2023 |
fergie001:16th wonder because there are potentially 2 appeals and the best I see them getting is a cancellation and ordering a rerun . Who will be in charge of that rerun and what is to stop the same thing happening again? We need to look at the system so that elections are concluded earlier and no one is sworn in until cases resolved. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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