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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 10:49pm On Mar 07, 2023
feedthenation:


---CPAC delegates---
What part of morals and values is this an example of? I’m sure all the Republican fan boys and fan girls are proud of these people.
To think that these are the kinds of idiots that we left-leaning citizens get called ‘stupid’ for refusing to align ourselves with.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 10:56pm On Mar 07, 2023
Obrigardo:


If he opens his mouth again I'll fire him truth bombs. It pains me these guys will see what right wingers are doing cancelling everything and censorship but put the blame on Democrats. Annoying.

Even more annoying is the blaring fact that they have very limited knowledge or understanding of what they’re cheering and supporting. Their knowledge base is mostly made up of hearsay, propaganda, and conspiracies from White supremacist sources.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:43am On Mar 08, 2023
From the Dominion Lawsuit. Who could have thought that Tucker really didn't believe the stuff he said on air?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:11am On Mar 08, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Even more annoying is the blaring fact that they have very limited knowledge or understanding of what they’re cheering and supporting. Their knowledge base is mostly made up of hearsay, propaganda, and conspiracies from White supremacist sources.
I'm Nigerian.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 5:21am On Mar 08, 2023
After listening to Tucker, yesterday, folks I believe J6 was a trap set up by the Dems for Trump to walk into. I think Trump knew - but he decided he’d go in all thesame, knowing that one day, he will be vindicated.

You can only keep the truth under the rugs for a while. It will always find its way out to the surface one day.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 5:54am On Mar 08, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Even more annoying is the blaring fact that they have very limited knowledge or understanding of what they’re cheering and supporting. Their knowledge base is mostly made up of hearsay, propaganda, and conspiracies from White supremacist sources.

There's one thing i'm 100% sure of - the "conservative" movement is a dying one. Just watch how they will capitulate after 2024.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 5:55am On Mar 08, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Promising flying cars and a population boom if people give him a second chance. If he couldn’t win on his last election promises which were more down to earth, why does he think people will vote for him because he promises flying cars? Flying cars but couldn’t build the wall he promised his sheep. What a joke of a buffoon he is.

I want a flying car to get to work cheesy

Don't underestimate him...anything is possible.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 5:58am On Mar 08, 2023
ono:
After listening to Tucker, yesterday, folks I believe J6 was a trap set up by the Dems for Trump to walk into. I think Trump knew - but he decided he’d go in all thesame, knowing that one day, he will be vindicated.

You can only keep the truth under the rugs for a while. It will always find its way out to the surface one day.

OG, You are a lost cause.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:12am On Mar 08, 2023
Obrigardo:


OG, You are a lost cause.

Obrifaggot,
You will see the light one day and you’d remember I told you so.

See below one of your type (from a YouTube channel) - who’s seen the light already.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:27am On Mar 08, 2023
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:04am On Mar 08, 2023
ono:
After listening to Tucker, yesterday, folks I believe J6 was a trap set up by the Dems for Trump to walk into. I think Trump knew - but he decided he’d go in all thesame, knowing that one day, he will be vindicated.

You can only keep the truth under the rugs for a while. It will always find its way out to the surface one day.

Was a setup.The chaos started just as an objection was raised, which would have entailed debate before certification for at least a few hours

To be precise two pipe bombs were discovered, someone whispered to Pelosi and she immediately adjourned the proceedings. Then Ray Epps goons removed the barriers immediately.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 11:27am On Mar 08, 2023
basilico:


Was a setup.The chaos started just as an objection was raised, which would have entailed debate before certification for at least a few hours

To be precise two pipe bombs were discovered, someone whispered to Pelosi and she immediately adjourned the proceedings. Then Ray Epps goons removed the barriers immediately.

This is pathetic. How do you recover from this hell hole?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 12:11pm On Mar 08, 2023
Obrigardo:


This is pathetic. How do you recover from this hell hole?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:32pm On Mar 08, 2023
Long Read.

From conservative treehouse comments.

 I think most (not all, but a large number ) of people are totally missing what happened ..and why this happened on jan 6.
I am going to try my best to outline the events that day…blast past the commonly held assumptions and get right down to the core corruption.

I will present this as a series of questions and answers

Question 1
: how do you prevent congress from delaying the certification of state electoral votes?
ANSWER1
: it requires a crisis. A crisis that creates an “emergency”…An “emergency” that invokes special house rules.
facts: remember, carefully…focus please…remember…just moments..literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions to suspend the certification the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers. It was at this time that key people: pence, pelosi, schumer, mcconnell can be seen being walked out and escorted from the chamber. This effectively halted the Entire Chamber Process

QUESTION 2:
why was it necessary to halt the chamber process
ANSWER2
: the crisis was created to eliminate the motion challenges to halt the certification and to begin voting to look into voting irregularities and fraud

facts: the two motions were completely legal and constitutional under at least two constitutionally recognized procedures…procedures that would REQUIRE the house to pause the certification and then vote to determine whether the motions of suspend could move forward


QUESTION 3:
what was so important to refuse this motion and the subsequent votes to suspend the electoral certification
ANSWER 3:
It was important to remove that process entirely and continue the fraud and certify the fraud with no detractors on record. This effectively gives no standing for a scotus ruling appeal! understand this. If those two motions, even just one had successfully been voted EVEN IF THE MOTIONS were DENIED IN VOTE, this gives those who presented them with STANDING FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL ARGUMENT BEFORE SCOTUS. Understand this.


QUESTION 4:
could this have been done some other way other than creating a crisis/protest?

ANSWER4:
unlikely….In order to prevent those two motions, requires that speaker of the house, minority leaders, and the president of the congress (vice president of the united states: pence), to NOT BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS. Once the capitol police and other “law enforcements agents” informed the speaker and these three other individuals, pelosi UNILATERALLY UNDER EMERGENCY RULES, suspended the business of the congress. This protest was necessary ..the crisis was created..because there is no other way to suspend the business of certification UNILATERALLY. By creating a crisis…invokes emergency procedures. No other circumstances other than war or mass simultaneous explosive diaahrea can create such unilateral speaker delivered suspension of the certification.

QUESTION 5:
Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members dissallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?

ANSWER 5:
the speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules.
These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!

QUESTION 6
Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?

ANSWER 6:
members were allowed to “vote” in proxy…remotely…not being present…(you can use your imagination about what conditions were placed on ALL members during this time to prevent anyone from “getting out of line”. Also clearly, it was at THIS NEW SESSION that VP Pence, President of Congress, would also have no ability to even consider pausing the electoral certification…because there was no motions of disagreements on the matter. So in a technical legal claim, he is correct that he had no constitutional authority to address any issues of fraud or doubts about electoral irregularities. But this completely dismisses the FACT that congress created rules in this crisis/emergency that never allowed them to be floored!
understand what happened in jan 6…don’t get hung up on viking impostors, stolen pelosi computers, podium heists, and complicit capitol police.
Understand the process and what happened and what WAS NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
this was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED.
it would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring!
New rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE!
So they created an emergency.

Noting: I understand why many people have great interest in debunking the j6 event…I get that. I think it is important to dissect and examine the events of that day.
but please…step back and understand WHY these things happened…examine the chain of events in congress…why those two motions that would have at least paused the certification THAT WOULD GIVE VP PENCE THE CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED POWER TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE ELECTORAL CERTIFICATION AND THEN EXAMINE THE IRREGULARITIES AND CLAIMS OF FRAUD


At the very center of this coup stands Pence…the same individual who also spoiled President Trump’s first opportunities in the earlies hours of his Presidency just 4 years prior, when he created and facilitated the removal of LTGEN Flynn. I will not spend much time on this thread explaining why LTGEN Flynn was so important to President Trump and why the IC was so afraid he would have advisory power to the President. That I will leave for another day, another time. But understand this clearly: MIKE PENCE WAS AND IS WORKING FOR THE MOST CORRUPT CRIMINAL TREASONOUS PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT.

Protip: if you really want to get a true understanding of this matter videos of protesters walking in the capitol is not going to address them. Actual video and time line records of events and the specific actions taken by the speaker just moments before TWO MAJOR ELECTORAL ALTERING MOTIONS WERE ABOUT TO BE FLOORED. This crisis was developed just in time with a precise coordination to prevent those two motions to be entered into the chamber record. The two motions do not exist. The emergency powers established in the new session made sure they never could be entered. The emergency powers could never happen without a crisis…

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:42pm On Mar 08, 2023
Obrigardo:


This is pathetic. How do you recover from this hell hole?

Have answered you . What facts will you dispute?
I know you are hard wired.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-joe-bidens/3691#121573184
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 12:51pm On Mar 08, 2023
budaatum:


Left! Ban abortion and burn books.

1. Abortion wasn't banned, it was left up to the states. Sounds pretty small government to me.

2. Seattle started the trend when they removed To Kill a Mockingbird from the curriculum

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 1:51pm On Mar 08, 2023
The Dems don't have any other good candidates?
Bernie says he won't run against Joe in the primaries.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:06pm On Mar 08, 2023
You ono think. You simply basilico what Alex Jones told you to.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:14pm On Mar 08, 2023
CoolUsername:

1. Abortion wasn't banned, it was left up to the states. Sounds pretty small government to me.
Which delights the left states now passing abortion ban legislation?

CoolUsername:
2. Seattle started the trend when they removed To Kill a Mockingbird from the curriculum
Started the trend it in 2022 or followed an already well established trend?

Harper Lee’s 1960 Pulitzer Prize-winning novel has been repeatedly challenged and banned in schools amid complaints of profanity, racial epithets and a description of a rape. While a beloved novel for many, it is one of the most commonly banned books. After a Virginia school board banned her book in 1966 for being “immoral literature,” an exasperated Lee wrote to a Richmond newspaper, “To hear that the novel is ‘immoral’ has made me count the years between now and 1984, for I have yet to come across a better example of doublethink.” The book was banned in Lindale, Texas, in 1996 because it “conflicted with the values of the community” and removed from an Ontario high school’s English class in 2009 because of its racial language. On the flip side, however, the school board in Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, reinstated the novel in 2013 after a 12-year ban.
https://www.history.com/news/10-literary-classics-that-have-been-banned
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:39pm On Mar 08, 2023
I see the nuts are still in this thread nutting. It must suck the people you look up to the most (Tucker, Hannity), have been lying to you and assuming you are fools. That feeling is only going to get worse as more news comes out during the Dominion trial next month. Real question, does Tucker also have Trump Derangement Syndrome?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:02pm On Mar 08, 2023

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 6:20pm On Mar 08, 2023
IjeBos:
I see the nuts are still in this thread nutting. It must suck the people you look up to the most (Tucker, Hannity), have been lying to you and assuming you are fools. That feeling is only going to get worse as more news comes out during the Dominion trial next month. Real question, does Tucker also have Trump Derangement Syndrome?




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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:39pm On Mar 08, 2023
IjeBos:
I see the nuts are still in this thread nutting. It must suck the people you look up to the most (Tucker, Hannity), have been lying to you and assuming you are fools. That feeling is only going to get worse as more news comes out during the Dominion trial next month. Real question, does Tucker also have Trump Derangement Syndrome?






Tucker Carlson CCTV footage Monday night showed

Ray Epps grossly lied to J6 sham committee about what time he left the capitol grounds.

Officer Brian Sicknick was shown walking around looking healthy Yet the left has been saying he was killed by Trump supporters. (I think they claim he was murdered using a fire extinguisher). He collapsed later at night . (Maybe it was the covax that killed him).

Qanon Sharman walked peacefully in the capitol ,led by capitol police. They were opening doors for him to enter. They escorted him all the while he was inside, at one time there were nine Cops near him. Had he been breaking rules they woulda arrested him. They did not. When he was leaving He said a prayer for the police For this he was demonized as a domestic terrorist and jailed for 4 years

Tucker Carlson is. Liar??

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 10:00pm On Mar 08, 2023
Very peculiar; in the midst of Tucker's "lying in public/telling the truth in private scandal", people on this board are still quoting his public tv show as a reference. The delusion runs deep. Funny, how the private comments of Tucker vis a vis Trump mirror the thoughts of most Democrats or rational intelligent people.

The Tucker Carlson Schtick Melts Away
We finally know what the Fox News host really believes.


It has been self-evident for a long time to almost every astute observer of Tucker Carlson — his friends, his acquaintances in the journalism profession, even some viewers of his nightly Fox News Channel program — that he doesn’t believe half of the things he says on his show. That obvious truth can now be enjoyed more widely, including by fans of his show, which happens to be the most popular single attraction in cableland, thanks to new filings released from the $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit Dominion Voting Systems has leveled against Fox.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/08/tucker-carlson-phony-fox-00086126

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 10:08pm On Mar 08, 2023
IjeBos:
Very peculiar; in the midst of Tucker's "lying in public/telling the truth in private scandal", people on this board are still quoting his public tv show as a reference. The delusion runs deep. Funny, how the private comments of Tucker vis a vis Trump mirror the thoughts of most Democrats or rational intelligent people.


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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 10:19pm On Mar 08, 2023
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:26pm On Mar 08, 2023
basilico:

Tucker Carlson is. Liar??

There's no hope for you.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 10:33pm On Mar 08, 2023
budaatum:


There's no hope for you.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 11:22pm On Mar 08, 2023
Republicans just being Republicans.

Right-wing hoaxers’ robocalls targeting Black voters violated Voting Rights Act and KKK Act, federal judge rules
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/right-wing-hoaxers-robocalls-targeting-black-voters-violated-voting-rights-act-and-kkk-act-federal-judge-rules/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 11:33pm On Mar 08, 2023
IjeBos:
Republicans just being Republicans.

Right-wing hoaxers’ robocalls targeting Black voters violated Voting Rights Act and KKK Act, federal judge rules
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/right-wing-hoaxers-robocalls-targeting-black-voters-violated-voting-rights-act-and-kkk-act-federal-judge-rules/


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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:15am On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


There's no hope for you.

Who cares what he thinks about Trump. The issue at hand. The J6 committee lied. The DoJ has been lying and jailing Trump supporters.

Today McCarthy formed a committee to probe the J6 sham committee. Should their actions be probed in your opinion?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:39am On Mar 09, 2023
These texts are brutal. Fox and CO. are EVIL. Imagine all the lives they've destroyed just to turn a profit.

Brutal New Texts Reveal Tucker Carlson and Producer Horrified By ‘Deadly’ Trump ‘Anger Spiral’ On Jan. 6
https://www.mediaite.com/news/brutal-new-texts-reveal-tucker-carlson-and-producer-horrified-by-deadly-trump-anger-spiral-on-jan-6/


Producer – Millions believe that the election was stolen because of Donald Trump and demagogues like this Drew guy.

Producer – They take the president literally. He said it was stolen. They believe him. He is to blame for everything that happened today.

Carlson – The problem is a little deeper than that I’d say.

Producer – Obviously the problems are deep but at the core of it is Trump saying It was stolen.

Carlson – Not the core, Awful but a symptom

Producer – He promoted today’s rally a month ago and said it would be “wild”

Producer – Come on

Producer – There is just too much circular logic going around. Yes millions of people think the election was stolen, but they didn’t just wake up with that belief. They were told it was stolen and that was amplified in talk radio/memes etc.

Producer – *Don’t feel like arguing in that group chat. I agree with your text.

Producer – But sometimes things are simple. Our job is to react nightly to the news of the day not deliver a thesis on what ails America. The president of the United States has told his supporters daily for months that the election was stolen. His allies parroted this. He promoted a massive rally in DC. They all flew in. He then encouraged them to go to the Capitol and the rest is history. Yes he is symptom but today was its own event. If a boxer gets knocked out and dies in the ring. I could talk about how he grew up poor and thats why he chose such a dangerous profession.

Carlson – No our job is not to provide news coverage. Not even close. Our job is to explain what things mean

Producer – Well to explain what things mean it would require explaining why people think the election was stolen. I get that we have to thread the needle and we have an audience with certain beliefs. So it’s tough. It’s just frustrating. It’s impossible to accurately explain today’s events without mentioning the president and the lies. Not just the lies about the fraud, but maybe more importantly the lies giving people hope. As Charlie and I said in the group chat the other day, countless people ask us if Trump can still pull this off. It’s a shame so many think that.

Producer – People were enraged today because they thought Mike Pence would save the day.

Carlson – Trump has two weeks left. Once he’s out, he becomes incalculably less powerful, even in the minds of his supporters. My view is that the most important thing we can do — maybe the only thing we can do — is try to save the things that make America worth living in. For me that begins with the first and second amendments.

Producer – Agreed. I just worry in those two weeks time and the time after that he will inspire people to do even more stuff to put those rights in jeopardy.

Carlson – There’s no question he will. He’s a demonic force, a destroyer. But he’s not going to destroy us. I’be been thinking about this every day for four years.

Producer – You’re right. I don’t want to let him destroy me either. The Trump anger spiral is vicious.

Carlson – That’s for sure. Deadly. It almost consumed me in November when Sidney Powell attacked us. It was very difficult to regain emotional control, but I knew I had to. We’ve got two weeks left. We can do this.

Producer – This crazy q stuff has consequences.

Producer – It also takes lots of demagogues for them to believe this stuff. Trump never disavowed this Q shit or Lin Wood or any of the insanity.

Carlson – (REDACTED)

Pfeiffer – This is from Theo. The Q movement is sincerely dangerous. Don’t really know how to stop it. Hopefully Trump being out of the presidency deflates it as its central premise right now is that he will serve a second term and that people need to “Trust the plan.” Many of the people at the Capitol yesterday wore Q t shirts. It really takes a hold of people. From then: “We have these friends — He’s a doctor. She’s a nurse. Both apolitical before 2013. They went from generally supportive of Trump to MAGA to devoted Fox watchers to Alex Jones followers to Q folks. They believed that Trump would “fix” the election. When I pointed out to them that even if Trump ‘fixed’ the election, it wouldn’t matter now because the Senate would impeach. The woman’s answer was: then we suspend the Congress. Again, normal people. Didn’t even follow politics four years ago. Probably were soft Democrats. They now think there’s a ‘righteous restoration afoot’

Carlson – Not surprised. All misdirected religious impulses. Secular societies don’t work.

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