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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:15pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:


this man is confused o. Now now now you said he died of stroke, Now you are feeding on another lie?
New york times who spread the lies about SickNick quietly said he died Naturally of stroke. He was never assaulted.
You are a very confused person. You don jump unto another lie after admitting he died of stroke. Lol shame on you.

https://twitter.com/sheryltwo/status/1633085243052916737?s=20

Somethings are way beyond your level of comprehension, it seems.

Was the stroke not brought on from the stress off Jan 6?

"....and additionally commented that "all that transpired played a role in his condition".

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:16pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


Liz Cheney tweet is actually true. He was killed in the line of duty. Just that he died the next day.

Or do you want to claim his death on Jan 7 was not in line of his duty on Jan 6?

the line of duty means he died during his work... where the chaos was happening... how can you die in the line of duty but your death actually comes the next day not in the line of duty? are you sure you understand English?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:18pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


Somethings are way beyond your level of comprehension, it seems.

Was the stroke not brought on from the stress off Jan 6?

"....and additionally commented that "all that transpired played a role in his condition".

people get stroke, which is why they give people break or don't ask them to overwork themselves... He died Naturally. no one killed him. he was doing his job which includes securing the Capitol Building... If he died the next day then he died of natural cause. It is simple to understand this.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:21pm On Mar 09, 2023
Brian Sicknick was not even stressed, he did not argue with the rioters, he did not struggle with anyone... he was even ushering them in. He Voted for trump. From the footage one could not conclude he was even stressed.
https://twitter.com/sheryltwo/status/1633085243052916737?s=20
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:23pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:
Brian Sicknick died of a stroke the very next day, but you'd likely claim it's not connected like a knee was not connected to George Floyd's neck.

How was his heart attack connected to the riots?
Explain. Because there were thousands of people who did not get heart attacks.
Four other officers committed suicide days and weeks later. How are their suicides connected to Jan 6.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:50pm On Mar 09, 2023
basilico:


How was his heart attack connected to the riots?
Explain. Because there were thousands of people who did not get heart attacks.
Four other officers committed suicide days and weeks later. How are their suicides connected to Jan 6.

It was a stroke. Go read up on causes of stroke and stress then tell me what you find.

To be honest, if you don't understand the suicides, I'm best leaving you to it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:53pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:
Brian Sicknick was not even stressed, ......

You don't wear stress on a sleeve so it can be seen in a video. Besides, his stress could have surfaced after his adrenal drive from the event wore off. Still related. Same as the suicides.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:55pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:


the line of duty means he died during his work...

No it doesn't! If he was shot during his work and died a month later, it's still line of duty. Just this case he was not shot but stressed.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:59pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


No it doesn't! If he was shot during his work and died a month later, it's still line of duty. Just this case he was not shot but stressed.

You cannot say some one died naturally from your own post here and at the same time blame the death on people.
SickNick did not sustain any injuries in the line of duty that later killed him. So you cannot say he died in the line of duty.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:02pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


You don't wear stress on a sleeve so it can be seen in a video. Besides, his stress could have surfaced after his adrenal drive from the event wore off. Still related. Same as the suicides.


you and I could not tell whether he was stressed or not. Not everyone who died of stroke is as a result of stress too. They Lied and that has been exposed. DOJ and Press Sec is still spreading the lie that 5 officers were killed that day.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:07pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:


you and I could not tell whether he was stressed or not. Not everyone who died of stroke is as a result of stress too.

That's why there are medical professionals performing autopsies instead of you and I.

Go read what they say instead of Tucker.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:20pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:


You cannot say some one died naturally from your own post here and at the same time blame the death on people.

"and additionally commented that "all that transpired played a role in his condition"".

Well, a coroner did, as you can well see, so I suggest you write to the coroner and say "you cannot say" what they already said, and that the judged agreed with.

The judge, Thomas F Hogan, told Khater: “There are officers who lost their lives, there’s officers who committed suicide after this, there’s officers who can’t go back to work. Your actions ... are inexcusable.”

What's funny is the lawyer for the Capitol Rioter never bothered with all this you claiming.

Attorneys for Khater sought to blame Trump, writing: “A climate of mass hysteria, fueled by the dissemination of misinformation about the 2020 election, originating at the highest level, gave rise to a visceral powder keg waiting to ignited.”

Perhaps he should have hired lawyers basilico & benalvino3.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 5:35pm On Mar 09, 2023
basilico:
Jill Biden recognises biological male as an international
Woman of courage..
Among other women.


---This is totally wrong---Jill and her husband Joe are propagating alternative lifestyles---
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:35pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


"and additionally commented that "all that transpired played a role in his condition"".

Well, a coroner did, as you can well see, so I suggest you write to the coroner and say "you cannot say" what they already said, and that the judged agreed with.

The judge, Thomas F Hogan, told Khater: “There are officers who lost their lives, there’s officers who committed suicide after this, there’s officers who can’t go back to work. Your actions ... are inexcusable.”

What's funny is the lawyer for the Capitol Rioter never bothered with all this you claiming.

Attorneys for Khater sought to blame Trump, writing: “A climate of mass hysteria, fueled by the dissemination of misinformation about the 2020 election, originating at the highest level, gave rise to a visceral powder keg waiting to ignited.”

Perhaps he should have hired lawyers basilico & benalvino3.

You are talking from you arse.
We know the defence did not even get all the footage and materials they need for their own defence. they kept info from them and spread lies.

You have said he died Naturally but you still want to blame his death on people. the Judges are not Gods... they only know what the people with agenda want them to know which is why Q-Anon Shaman defense lawyers never got what Tucker just showed. all these are facts. you are here contradicting yourself. If someone die Naturally, then no one could be blamed for it. it is that simple.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:55pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:


You have said he died Naturally but you still want to blame his death on people.

It was said he died naturally, and "All that transpired played a role in his condition", and the blamed Capitol Rioter people pled guilty as charged.

budaatum:


Capitol Rioter pleaded guilty to assaulting Sicknick and shouldn't have lied if he hadn't!

Bright side is, Capitol Rioter can now appeal. Keep me updated how that goes, though, don't be surprised if Capitol Rioter gets charged with lying under oath and perverting the course of justice.
Just ensure his lawyers are basilico & benalvino3 and he'd walk.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:04pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


It was said he died naturally, and "All that transpired played a role in his condition", and the blamed Capitol Rioter people pled guilty as charged.

the medical examiner says otherwise. Stop pushing lies Budaatum. just accept reality and move on.
CNBC
Sicknick’s official cause of death was “acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis,” according to the[b] medical examiner’s office[/b].

The officer’s manner of death — the circumstances surrounding his passing — was determined to be “natural,” the office said. That term is used when a death is caused solely by a disease and is not hastened by an injury.

budaatum:

Just ensure his lawyers are basilico & benalvino3 and he'd walk.

You spend so much energy defending a blatant lie.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:05pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:


people get stroke, which is why they give people break or don't ask them to overwork themselves...

Unfortunately for him, instead of being given break, he had to report for duty to deal with the overwork created by the Capitol Rioters. Or are you suggesting he should have stayed at home

They give break to people diagnosed with stroke, and not people who's stroke is brought on suddenly by overwork created by Capitol Rioter.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:08pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


Unfortunately for him, instead of being given break, he had to report for duty to deal with the overwork created by the Capitol Rioters. Or are you suggesting he should have stayed at home

They give break to people diagnosed with stroke, and not people who's stroke is brought on suddenly by overwork created by Capitol Rioter.

or he could have died even if he did not show up for work. I know of a guy who had stroke... he died last year. He was fine walking and doing his stuff. He was ironing his cloths when it happened to him.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:13pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:


the medical examiner says otherwise. Stop pushing lies Budaatum. just accept reality and move on.
"While noting Sicknick’s presence during the rioting, said “all that transpired played a role in his condition,” the Post reported.

https://www.police1.com/us-capitol-attack/articles/medical-examiner-capitol-officer-died-of-natural-causes-IGbLeyqP6zlPPAii/

benalvino3:

You spend so much energy defending a blatant lie.
Basilico & benalvino3, I'm certain, will see me in court.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:24pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:

"While noting Sicknick’s presence during the rioting, said “all that transpired played a role in his condition,” the Post reported.

https://www.police1.com/us-capitol-attack/articles/medical-examiner-capitol-officer-died-of-natural-causes-IGbLeyqP6zlPPAii/


Basilico & benalvino3, I'm certain, will see me in court.

they are leading you and like a sheep, you follow. see their words then see the contradiction
“acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis,”
that's the cause of death

The officer’s manner of death — the circumstances surrounding his passing — was determined to be “natural,” the office said. That term is used when a death is caused solely by a disease and is not hastened by an injury.

that's all you have to know. them saying what transpired is them trying to lead you.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:27pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:

Capitol Rioter who assaulted Sicknick got nearly 7 years. Tucker's video revealed he was never assaulted

They need Basilico & benalvino3 & Tucker & co on appeal

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/defendants-new-jersey-and-west-virginia-sentenced-assaulting-officers-during-jan-6

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:34pm On Mar 09, 2023
benalvino3:

that's all you have to know. them saying what transpired is them trying to lead you.

Lead the court that saw the evidence placed before it and decided to throw Capital Rioter in jail!

Ben, do you seriously think the lawyer for Capital Rioter would not have seen the evidence that would make his client plead guilty? The prosecutor can not provide evidence in court that the defender can not see in total, or do you not know that?

I guess it is very possible, that the Capital Rioter's lawyer was that negligent, might even have been hired by Biden! So make sure b.b&t&co sue him too along with the appeal.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:01pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:
Brian Sicknick died of a stroke the very next day, but you'd likely claim it's not connected like a knee was not connected to George Floyd's neck.

Where did you pull this from, buda? If it’s Wikipedia, I reserve my comment.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:02pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:

"While noting Sicknick’s presence during the rioting, said “all that transpired played a role in his condition,” the Post reported.

https://www.police1.com/us-capitol-attack/articles/medical-examiner-capitol-officer-died-of-natural-causes-IGbLeyqP6zlPPAii/


Basilico & benalvino3, I'm certain, will see me in court.

Washington Post… sad sad
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:16pm On Mar 09, 2023
ono:


Washington Post… sad sad

You are very welcome to provide your own medical report.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:21pm On Mar 09, 2023
ono:


Where did you pull this from, buda? If it’s Wikipedia, I reserve my comment.

There are very many sources saying the exact same thing, that "Brian Sicknick died of a stroke the very next day", but if you have an ono view, provide it please let us see it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:22pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


Lead the court that saw the evidence placed before it and decided to throw Capital Rioter in jail!

Ben, do you seriously think the lawyer for Capital Rioter would not have seen the evidence that would make his client plead guilty? The prosecutor can not provide evidence in court that the defender can not see in total, or do you not know that?

I guess it is very possible, that the Capital Rioter's lawyer was that negligent, might even have been hired by Biden! So make sure b.b&t&co sue him too along with the appeal.

You're spending a lot of time trying to rationalize to people who are so deeply programmed that even when they learn that their programmers have been lying to them(Fox News), they'll just as easily turn on that programmer. There is nothing new in this but just a continuation of their troubled minds. Just add this to the litany of things like, just from recent memory, the Parkland shooters, pizzagate, Seth Rich, Qanon, the stolen election, etc. etc. Now it's Jan. 6th, which we all watched in horror, was just a peaceful tour all instigated by someone named Ray Epps (does it even make sense?).

I think a more meaningful discussion is what leads people to discard fact based reality and cling to these delusions, despite a plethora and an abundance of evidence to the contrary.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:35pm On Mar 09, 2023
IjeBos:


You're spending a lot of time trying to rationalize to people who are so deeply programmed that even when they learn that their programmers have been lying to them(Fox News), they'll just as easily turn on that programmer. There is nothing new in this but just a continuation of their troubled minds. Just add this to the litany of things like, just from recent memory, the Parkland shooters, pizzagate, Seth Rich, Qanon, the stolen election, etc. etc. Now it's Jan. 6th, which we all watched in horror, was just a peaceful tour all instigated by someone named Ray Epps (does it even make sense?).

I think a more meaningful discussion is what leads people to discard fact based reality and cling to these delusions, despite a plethora and an abundance of evidence to the contrary.


No, Ijebos, I am not "spending a lot of time trying to rationalize to people who are so deeply programmed that even when they learn that their programmers have been lying to them(Fox News), they'll just as easily turn on that programmer".

What I am spending a lot of time doing is practice how to remain very patient with people who are so deeply programmed that they will twist facts and evidence so much that it blinds them, and I am also playing chess.

You should read me with those who claim Adam and Eve died when they ate the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil despite it very clearly written to the contrary.

It is part of my long term investigation into "what leads people to discard fact based reality and cling to these delusions, despite a plethora and an abundance of evidence to the contrary".

Here's some.
https://www.nairaland.com/7351620/story-adam-eve-makes-sense#117010940

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:36pm On Mar 09, 2023
budaatum:


There are very many sources saying the exact same thing, that "Brian Sicknick died of a stroke the very next day", but if you have an ono view, provide it please let us see it.

Tucker’s version of what transpired on J6 is overwhelmingly convincing. I will not argue any further.

I want to agree with you that we should double check information before coming to post stuff. But all these past two years Demonrats have made it extremely difficult to believe their version of what happened. They basically showed what supported their narrative that there was a “violent insurrection”.

Think about it buda, for a second. Is it really possible that those guys who were at the Capitol on J6 really went there to overthrow the US government ? Do you know what that entails ?

I’m sorry buda. I don’t agree with you. We’ve never agreed on most things anyways. So.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:45pm On Mar 09, 2023
ono:


Tucker’s version of what transpired on J6 is overwhelmingly convincing. I will not argue any further.

You are saying, you are convinced by Carlson, and that's fair enough.

Fact is, the judge and jury were not convinced by the Capitol Rioter's defence. Or rather, perhaps they were convinced, depending how you wanna spin it I guess.

The climate of mass (Capitol Rioter's) hysteria, fueled by the dissemination of misinformation about the 2020 election, originating at the highest level, might have given rise to a visceral powder keg (Capitol Rioter) waiting to be ignited.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 7:46pm On Mar 09, 2023
Republicans at it once again.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 7:53pm On Mar 09, 2023
IjeBos:


You're spending a lot of time trying to rationalize to people who are so deeply programmed that even when they learn that their programmers have been lying to them(Fox News), they'll just as easily turn on that programmer. There is nothing new in this but just a continuation of their troubled minds. Just add this to the litany of things like, just from recent memory, the Parkland shooters, pizzagate, Seth Rich, Qanon, the stolen election, etc. etc. Now it's Jan. 6th, which we all watched in horror, was just a peaceful tour all instigated by someone named Ray Epps (does it even make sense?).

I think a more meaningful discussion is what leads people to discard fact based reality and cling to these delusions, despite a plethora and an abundance of evidence to the contrary.



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