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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by udede(m): 10:47am On Mar 09, 2023
PointB:
It's no news that INEC declared Mr. Bola A. Tinubu as the winner of the Feb' 25th elections. Sequel to that, some presidential aspirants have approached the court to examine sensitive material used in the election. This is a precursor to filing appeals for a redress. While we don't know exactly what the various party will be asking for, however based on several commentators on the matter, notably Former Attorney General, Mr, Michael Aondoaka, one can see the various possible angles for upturning the pronouncement of the INEC chairman.


1. Inconsistence in announced and transmitted results.

A notable inconsistence between belatedly transmitted and announced result was recently circulated online. It was the case of Obi Akpor LGA in River State, where LP were clearly short changed in favour of APC. As citizens statisticians continued to pore through results uploaded on the INEC IREV server, expect more of such inconsistences. The potential for this to reduce the number allocated to the supposed winner, while swelling the number of the supposed losers, is a very important result of this. Lagos, PH, Benue, Plateau, Akwa Ibom, are among states where the LP might garner more votes than currently announced for them. And extension, APC losing more the lead margin. Debit APC, Credit LP,


2. The Conjunctive Clause 'AND' FCT

Never in the history of Nigeria's checkered electoral history has AND assumed so much importance than now. English scholars, quasi-lawyers, and professional lawyers all however, seems to agree with the former Attorney General, Mr, Michael Aondoaka, that AND FCT is a conjunctive clause, implying obtaining 25% FCT votes is the NO 1 requirement of the election (in a manner of speaking). Incidentally, the APC candidate Mr. Bola A. Tinubu did not meet this basic constitutional requirement. It's an understatement to say that INEC hastily announced him winner, in the dead of the night, even before the first cock crow.

3. Electronic (Non) Transmission of result
It's not necessary to go into the nitty-gritty of the electoral law to determine whether transmission in Realtime is mandated by the law or not. What is important actually is what the electoral body established as part of the electoral guideline. Without gainsaying, the INEC Chairman severally announced, in different fora, that the result will be transmitted in Realtime from the polling station. This is the understanding of the candidates going into the election. Did INEC transmit the Presidential Result in Real Time as stipulated in their own guideline? NO. Clearly this is like a case of dribbling the candidates and electorates. INEC broke it's own rule. This is clearly a major reason for upturning the result as declared.

That said, what is expected of the three main candidates as this unfold?

First LP - Obi

Mr Obi will definately argue that he be declared winner of the election, based on number of votes cast, cos it's most likely the recomputed results will favour him

PDP

It's in the interest of the PDP to go for a re-run, as they might likely come second, when all the illegal votes might have been stripped from the APC candidate.

APC

APC will either push for total cancellation and fresh election, or argue for the court to overlook all those infraction, and continue with business as usual, as there is no precedence for upturning of a presidential election by the court in Nigeria. It is not clear what they will opt for.

Citizens

Waiting with bated breath,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43_mR6Z9-3w



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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by nonhuman(m): 11:09am On Mar 09, 2023
stonemasonn:
Let me tell you guys one thing. In a one on one election between Tinubu and Obi. Tinubu will beat Obi black and blue.

You guys really underate the people that voted Tinubu because they are silent.

Atiku is the only candidate that can defeat Tinubu one on one.
you are just living in the past, you are still not accepting reality, just like a normal politician
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Ikea81: 11:16am On Mar 09, 2023
Please someone educate me,how long can the case before the tribunal last? Will they conclude before the swearing in......cos I don tire to dey hear we are going to court, we are going to court.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by ExudeLoveToAll: 11:19am On Mar 09, 2023
Godwin4444:
only atiku have a case, even if rivers n lagos votes are canceled, obi didn’t get 25% in 24 states n besides evidences of rigging will b established in the south east n many of them are obvious


Atiku might have a case but he doesn’t have d figures

Forget anything like winning fct or cancellation of election, that is impossible

So if they cancel election cos some candidates that lost pleaded d election b canceled n they conduct another one, what if other candidates that lose out too says they want election cancelled again?

So the cycle will continue meaning they might canceled the election till forever cos everyone can never b satisfied especially in a case where only one winner can b declared

Elections can only be cancelled when electoral act and INEC guidelines are grossly abused and not when a candidate says so.

These elections may or may not toe that direction, though there are substantive evidence to buttress it's cancellation. The right winner should end up as president at the end of the day, so we wish.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by yaki84: 11:22am On Mar 09, 2023
PointB:


If the results are re-tallied, Obi will win more states, and increase his spread. That's the point here.
win more states from where?

States where issues r, he already had his 25percent in those states..

Rivers, Akwaibom, plateau, lagos.

He won plateau and lagos, so even if they recount in those states, either he gets more votes but every other indices will still remain the same.

States he needs to focus his case are those core northern states.
He didnt get 25percent in any of those states.

Just like no other candidate got 25percent in SE states
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by yaki84: 11:25am On Mar 09, 2023
Penguin2:


What made you so sure that BAT will make the Run-Off?
Reality not Emotions.


U guys r driven by emotions and its affecting ur sense of seeing things the way it is.


I voted AA and i know quite well that AA will not have any favourable court judgment.

Cos i'm objective in my reasoning and not allowing emotions and sentiments to drive it.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by colestephan86: 12:18pm On Mar 09, 2023
00FFT00:


Ask the writers of your Constitution.
We know some of you are not intelligent, but consider the following.

In the United States, there is something called the electoral college. You can win the popular vote but still lose the election because there is a spread that must be satisfied. This is decided by electoral college votes.

Hillary Clinton scored more votes, but Donald Trump became the president. You must win 270 Electoral college votes to win the US presidential election.

This is what Abuja's one quarter votes represents in Nigeria. Anybody who seek to circumvent this very important constitutional provision must be promptly arrested and incarcerated.
All of you shouting electoral college.
Was the election inconclusive. Was there a tie.
Abi u don't know when the electoral college system is introduced?
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by 00FFT00(m): 12:34pm On Mar 09, 2023
colestephan86:

All of you shouting electoral college.
Was the election inconclusive. Was there a tie.
Abi u don't know when the electoral college system is introduced?

1. The election was marred by massive institutional irregularities, therefore inconclusive
2. Inec broke its own guidelines which in itself has the coloration of law (I don't expect you to understand this)
3. 25% rule in Abuja was not observed

Etc
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by seunmsg(m): 12:58pm On Mar 09, 2023
Your first basis is just empty delusion. Even if Obio Akpor is taken away from APC, Tinubu will remain in the lead as the 80k votes are inconsequential. Again, Peter Obi will also lose a lot of votes as the entire votes will be cancelled and not just Tinubu’s votes. The rigging in the South east will also be exposed and Peter Obi will lose most of his votes from the region.

Your second basis is so empty. Section 299 of the Constitution as already settled the status of FCT. For all constitutional matters, FCT is treated as a state. That settles it.

Your last basis is simply based on ignorance. Did the non transmission of results directly from polling units affect the outcome of the election substantially? The answer is no. Result of the election can only be cancelled if the violation of INEC rule substantially affected the outcome. In this case, the transmission which has now been done did not affect the outcome in any way. All results from ward to national collation centers were duly signed by party agents. Non transmission from polling unit is non issue.

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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by PointB: 1:52pm On Mar 09, 2023
Godwin4444:
I am talking about north west n north east

The mistake u people make is thinking all Christian’s will vote obi so u are calculating the Christian population in Nigeria

What about ekiti n ondo that are predominantly Christian’s but didn’t vote obi?

I didn't think Obi was under the illusion he was going to win NE or NW. There are strategic states in those Zones where LP believe they could win 25%, Kaduna being a prime example. When the inflated votes are removed, you will see a clearer picture. Obi for example got 21% in Kaduna, 23.9 in Akwa Ibom . Adjustment in the figures of APC and PDP will hand him the required %, in those states, and will hand him the required numbers for national spread, and potentially deny other parties same opportunity.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Abujaexpress: 3:09pm On Mar 09, 2023
Penguin2:


You need to understand that PDP also rigged from LP in places where they are strong.

PDP took LP numbers in Taraba, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and even Sokoto.

So, as LP is taking from APC’s numbers, they are also taking from PDP which in the end, if things go well, leave LP as the undisputed winnner.

So, LP is not in court against just APC but PDP as well.

The OP has good and logical points. But this is Nigeria.
And LP did not ring too?

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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Penguin2: 4:23pm On Mar 09, 2023
Abujaexpress:
And LP did not ring too?

Who would help rig when they have no state under their control?

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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by ezechi242: 5:13pm On Mar 09, 2023
Godwin4444:
hope u know in d south east people were sent out of polling units for not wanting to vote lp…..I believe u have seen d videos


Hope u also saw d video of how an lp supporter slapped a man n a lady was in d background shouting “ shame u want to vote apc”…n many more


To every evidence u think u have against tinubu there are counter evidences too

show us an evidence ...we have evidence all over the place against yours

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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by ezechi242: 5:17pm On Mar 09, 2023
Godwin4444:
u keep twisting tales to suit u

Asking me which north

No problem reality will hit u hard

Shebi obi won 97% in his home n no candidate got 10% but this same obi also won in other peoples stronghold

No need to argue with u

Go n tell d judge Peter obi won in every state

you just cant give reasons to convince tinubu had the votes he got from the north....the other guy actually gave you reasonable opinions
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by CHRISSANCHEZ(m): 5:21pm On Mar 09, 2023
stonemasonn:
Let me tell you guys one thing. In a one on one election between Tinubu and Obi. Tinubu will beat Obi black and blue.

You guys really underate the people that voted Tinubu because they are silent.

Atiku is the only candidate that can defeat Tinubu one on one.

Thats not true bro.
If Tinubu didn't beat Obi in Lagos alone...
Then he can't beat Obi generally.

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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by PointB: 5:32pm On Mar 09, 2023
seunmsg:
Your first basis is just empty delusion. Even if Obio Akpor is taken away from APC, Tinubu will remain in the lead as the 80k votes are inconsequential. Again, Peter Obi will also lose a lot of votes as the entire votes will be cancelled and not just Tinubu’s votes. The rigging in the South east will also be exposed and Peter Obi will lose most of his votes from the region.

Your second basis is so empty. Section 299 of the Constitution as already settled the status of FCT. For all constitutional matters, FCT is treated as a state. That settles it.

Your last basis is simply based on ignorance. Did the non transmission of results directly from polling units affect the outcome of the election substantially? The answer is no. Result of the election can only be cancelled if the violation of INEC rule substantially affected the outcome. In this case, the transmission which has now been done did not affect the outcome in any way. All results from ward to national collation centers were duly signed by party agents. Non transmission from polling unit is non issue.

Clearly you didn't digest the initial post well. If you did, you wouldn't have miss this line - As citizens statisticians continued to pore through results uploaded on the INEC IREV server, expect more of such inconsistences. Obio Apkor is just a tip of the iceberg. APC will be stripped on substantial votes when the analysis is completed.

As for the constitutional matter of 25% votes in FCT, did you watch the video attached?

Concerning the issue of transmission, why didn't INEC wait until the results were fully transmitted before announcing the result. Even as we speak now, the IReV portal does not have the complete result of the election. I bet you haven't even bothered checking. The non transmission of result from polling station certainly created the opportunity for the manipulation of several result sheets, which was used for the collation, and subsequently the final result. That's why the guideline required transmission in realtime. Failure of INEC to do that, in line with published guidelines, eroded the transparency, and therefore the credibility of the process.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Raf4: 5:40pm On Mar 09, 2023
Penguin2:


You need to understand that PDP also rigged from LP in places where they are strong.

PDP took LP numbers in Taraba, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and even Sokoto.

So, as LP is taking from APC’s numbers, they are also taking from PDP which in the end, if things go well, leave LP as the undisputed winnner.

So, LP is not in court against just APC but PDP as well.

The OP has good and logical points. But this is Nigeria.

Wishful thinking 🤔
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Raf4: 5:49pm On Mar 09, 2023
yaki84:
win more states from where?

States where issues r, he already had his 25percent in those states..

Rivers, Akwaibom, plateau, lagos.

He won plateau and lagos, so even if they recount in those states, either he gets more votes but every other indices will still remain the same.

States he needs to focus his case are those core northern states.
He didnt get 25percent in any of those states.

Just like no other candidate got 25percent in SE states

Just leave them. They are so deluded that obi won Oyo, Kwara, Kogi, Kano, Zamfara, Borno etc. So laughable 😃 😀 😄
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by pryme(m): 5:52pm On Mar 09, 2023
yaki84:

That is where the Electoral college votes situates.
Like in the USA

Electoral college votes?

Do you even know what that is?

Humor me since when does US election demand 25% votes from Washington D.C for you to win the election?
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by yaki84: 6:16pm On Mar 09, 2023
pryme:


Electoral college votes?

Do you even know what that is?

Humor me since when does US election demand 25% votes from Washington D.C for you to win the election?
U can read but u dont have simple brains to understand.

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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by pryme(m): 6:18pm On Mar 09, 2023
yaki84:

U can read but u dont have simple brains to understand.

Exactly,
It's hard to understand the rubbish you wrote, that's why i asked for clarification.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Abujaexpress: 6:29pm On Mar 09, 2023
Penguin2:


Who would help rig when they have no state under their control?
The South Eastern factor
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Demolakay: 6:43pm On Mar 09, 2023
stonemasonn:
Let me tell you guys one thing. In a one on one election between Tinubu and Obi. Tinubu will beat Obi black and blue.

You guys really underate the people that voted Tinubu because they are silent.

Atiku is the only candidate that can defeat Tinubu one on one.


Soo says a mumu lyk u.

In a free nd fair election,btw Tinubu nd Obi. I can bet wit my life, Obi will trounce him badly!

Why did u tink dey rigged d election? because dey saw d reality staring Dem in d face!

And u said Atiku is d threat.how? D gap btw Atiku nd Obi was jst 600k. Despite rigging Delta,Akwa ibom, Bayelsa nd some Oda places for him.

I pray dey cancel d election nd order a rerun btw Tinubu nd Obi,I will comfortably bet wit one of my papa ouse.

Dis one tink d pple are playing. Some1 was declared d winner nd most pple in d country are sad. And u said dat person can win a free,fair election?

Dey play!

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Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by stonemasonn: 6:54pm On Mar 09, 2023
Demolakay:



Soo says a mumu lyk u.

In a free nd fair election,btw Tinubu nd Obi. I can bet wit my life, Obi will trounce him badly!

Why did u tink dey rigged d election? because dey saw d reality staring Dem in d face!

And u said Atiku is d threat.how? D gap btw Atiku nd Obi was jst 600k. Despite rigging Delta,Akwa ibom, Bayelsa nd some Oda places for him.

I pray dey cancel d election nd order a rerun btw Tinubu nd Obi,I will comfortably bet wit one of my papa ouse.

Dis one tink d pple are playing. Some1 was declared d winner nd most pple in d country are sad. And u said dat person can win a free,fair election?

Dey play!
You're the mumu that thinks Obi is loved by everybody in Nigeria including Ekiti and Ondo people who are largely Christian.
I said it and I'll say it again Tinubu will trash Obi one on one. Your Mumu highness thinks Nigeria is only the more vocal Sourthern Nigeria
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by famology(m): 6:59pm On Mar 09, 2023
yaki84:

That is where the Electoral college votes situates.
Like in the USA


There's nothing like electoral college in our constitution. Stop clowning!
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by famology(m): 6:59pm On Mar 09, 2023
Another round of clowning by zombiediots. By the time legal fireworks begin una go enter house.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Demolakay: 7:47pm On Mar 09, 2023
stonemasonn:
You're the mumu that thinks Obi is loved by everybody in Nigeria including Ekiti and Ondo people who are largely Christian.
I said it and I'll say it again Tinubu will trash Obi one on one. Your Mumu highness thinks Nigeria is only the more vocal Sourthern Nigeria

Anoda mumu legend!
Obi won Plateau, Nasarawa,Abuja,parts of Kaduna,Niger,Taraba,Bauchi,Benue etc. Are dose places Southern Nigeria too?

Continue to wallow in ur self delusion.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by stonemasonn: 8:11pm On Mar 09, 2023
Demolakay:


Anoda mumu legend!
Obi won Plateau, Nasarawa,Abuja,parts of Kaduna,Niger,Taraba,Bauchi,Benue etc. Are dose places Southern Nigeria too?

Continue to wallow in ur self delusion.
Lol, your level of mumuness will be exposed after the tribunal.
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Edipet(m): 8:42pm On Mar 09, 2023
Godwin4444:
I like your second line

Tinubu supporters are silent while obi people are making noise
Tinubu has no much supporters, only his agent work for him by intimidating voters, in the village they gather village men and women on election day and show them where to vote, they didn't allow most people to make their choice on their own, after accreditation they will show the old woman where to vote
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by Demolakay: 9:31pm On Mar 09, 2023
stonemasonn:
Lol, your level of mumuness will be exposed after the tribunal.

Kkk. Let's wait and c Mr mumuni
Re: 3 Possible Basis For Court's Upturning INEC Election Declaration by KanwuliaExtra: 9:36pm On Mar 09, 2023
Maybe these words should be translated in YORUBA. . . .only. cheesy
It seems it is only the SW that does not understand THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE used to write them.

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