OVA200:
Don't get me wrong goals is very important in football but there are other aspect of the game that is equally as important because it's a team sport for a reason.

Halland scores goals for city but it's evident that they are struggling and not at their fluid best.
They are not as dominant as they once were; they tend to struggle against a decent technical team.

If a well oiled machine like city can struggle with a goal poacher then know it too well Chelsea will capsize.

We can all see how Lukaku turnout at Chelsea.
Lukaku and halland are similar in some ways (in my opinion halland is better though).

Bro you shot yourself on the foot with that bolded

If it's called team sport, which it is, then different members of the team have different jobs to do. Defending, creating, scoring etc...

Halaand's job is to score goals, and he is doing it in quantom No just go there bro.

If you like talk about Afghanistan footballer ,if I get interest I go chook mouth and press necks for any stupid analysis

If e pain you ,go nack your coconut head for wall

As for osimhen ,he should better pray and hope for Madrid or Bayern who will he needing a cf soon ,he doesn’t need to join any suffer head club that their so called best striker cannot even outscore lukaku ,or even yakubu with 20 goals difference

timbros:


Bro you shot yourself on the foot with that bolded

If it's called team sport, which it is, then different members of the team have different jobs to do. Defending, creating, scoring etc...

Halaand's job is to score goals, and he is doing it in quantom No just go there bro.

Bro context.

The bolded is not about halland but about football, check the post I make that reply to and also check the subsequent reply.

And even as a 9 in football you have other things to do aside goals; he scored a lot for city but is city better or worse with him compare to previous years?

And lukaku have scored a lot of goals in his career, is he an elite number 9?

timbros:


@bolded...Mourinho took Spurs to a Cup final and would have won it if he coached that final.

Pochettino was dragging league with Leicester in 2015 and ended up 3rd. Who does that if not a bottler? On paper, that Spurs team vs their Leicester counterpart, who was better? Are we going to talk about the UCL that Poch went on a brilliant run to the final only to bottle it? Maybe you don't know of the EFL cup meeting against West Ham in 2017 where Spurs have a good chance of going all the way to maybe win it. Leading 2-0 first half on to come crashing down at full time 2-3 in their home. In 2018 FA cup semi final against Man United, Pochettino and his Spurs side was leading 1-0 comfortably only to suddenly caputilate in 2nd half and lose 1-2.... I can go on and on.

There is a reason why Poch and Spurs is called bottlers. I didn't invent the tag.

Talking about IF,what is IF doing there in your comment timbros?

timbros:


Stop comparing apples and oranges.

Scotland isn't top 5 in Europe.

Tuchel have trophies to his name, even UCL. He isn't a bottler like Poch. Abi you wan compare them?

No you are the one seeing apples and oranges. My point is clear and i didn't set the rules here. Trophies is what is used to judge managers so Walter Smith is probably better than Tuchel or Raineri.

OVA200:
A lot.
To answer straight: Minus goals from Lionel Messi and see their is still a lot footballer can do.

PS: Goal is very important but their is more to football.

The most important thing about football is winning and without goals you can't win. It doesn't matter what you do in football, it's useless if you can't turn it to wins.

Remove Messi and Ronaldo's goals and see whether they'll still be regarded as goats.

airmark:


Yes, Mou is also not your Pocchetino's mate, just like Conte too.

Yes Mourinho has been to UCL finals like Pochettino, what do you have for Conte in the UCL?

popizaino:


You said trophies won is the only metrics to judge between coaches and gave you Walter smith of Scotland you are now turning amala to major leagues.

Mircea Lucescu is rated among managers with most trophies won after Sir Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola. They didn't say he didn't win most of this trophies in top 5 leagues so they are not going to rate him😀 above Conte,Raineri who won their own in 1st tier of European football. Now which other excuse do you have to rate Tuchel above Walter Smith,remember i did not set the trophies rule?



I am only responsible for what i write not how you choose to understand it. I said Mourinho has league titles at Chelsea while Avram Grant doesn't have at this same Chelsea. Now what have Conte done at Tottenham that Pochettino did not better at this same ?

I believe you can understand points and question above rather trying to put words in my mouth.



Ancelotti was once at Parma,even went from Ac milan,Chelsea, PSG, real Madrid, Bayern Munich to Everton and at no point was Conte better than him. Talk another thing Abobi.



Oga rest with your bias agenda. There is no comparing Pochettino to Conte. Even Poch himself no go gree with you.

1. I am 100percent sure you, as a football fan, know that you can't compare EPL to Zambian league. There is no way you can compare one Zambian coach that have won multiple trophies there to Ranieri who won just one EPL.

You know why those leagues are called the top 5 leagues in Europe. But just to drag argument, you will pretend you don't know.

Khadiri Ikana won CAF champions league wit Enyimba twice. No sane person will compare him to Tuchel who won the European equivalent just once.

Quality of trophy matters. Do you want me to literally spoonfeed you?

2. Is Pochettino better than Conte just based on their time in Spurs? Is that your metric of saying Pochettino is better than Conte? Really? So the other trophies Conte won outside Spurs is rubbish just because he didn't win it with Spurs? What kind of state nt is that?

If making UCL final is the reason why Pochettino is better than Conte then Grant is better than Mourinho too. EoD.

If I may ask you, in their while coaching careers, who is better, Pochettino or Conte? Why?

3. I don't understand what your point is by bringing in Ancelotti to the conversation. Do you think Parma is a small club during the era he coached there? Popi is everything okay?

airmark:


That's the Raumdeutersque spirit controlling Popizaino there.

Even Fraudiola would have made better use of the trio, Neymar, Mbappe and Messi, at PSG.

Pochettino should be renamed Fraudchettino. No ambitious club will near the bottler.

You could have been right if the present coach just used this set of players to pass Bayern Munich.

timbros:


Espanyol, Southampton, Tottenham should tell anyone his level. PSG is the first top job he was tried in, we know how it ended.

He won league like Conte did in other top clubs. Serial winner like Conte should win here at Tottenham now.

popizaino:


Talking about IF,what is IF doing there in your comment timbros?

Oga stop being childish.

I answered the question he asked based on how he asked it. Did he ask for facts on ground?

Bombblacks:

This narrative will never stop being amusing to me. How exactly is Pochettino a serial bottler? Please name the coaches that will win trophies at Tottenham let's see. The Conte you are talking about is at the same club currently yet he hasn't won even a spoon or gotten close. He is even planing on running away or rather they are ones chasing him away from the club.

What do you understand by that bolded? Pay attention to that will win..... Do you want me to mention Juande Ramos that actually won a trophy or someone that will win a trophy?

Stop sounding ridiculous.

popizaino:


No you are the one seeing apples and oranges. My point is clear and i didn't set the rules here. Trophies is what is used to judge managers so Walter Smith is probably better than Tuchel or Raineri.

Refer to my other comment.

OVA200:
Bro context.

The bolded is not about halland but about football, check the post I make that reply to and also check the subsequent reply.

And even as a 9 in football you have other things to do aside goals; he scored a lot for city but is city better or worse with him compare to previous years?

And lukaku have scored a lot of goals in his career, is he an elite number 9?

Apart from the goals, what do you want from him? Clean sheets?

popizaino:


He won league like Conte did in other top clubs. Serial winner like Conte should win here at Tottenham now.

Did Pochettino won leagues in different countries?

OVA200:
He didn't mention Barca or any of your player past or present but you jump to attack him.

But tomorrow now if they ask you why you are here you will be rambling about someone mentioning Barcelona or your player.

Any man that want equity must come with clean intentions.

Ellexy:
The most important thing about football is winning and without goals you can't win. It doesn't matter what you do in football, it's useless if you can't turn it to wins.

Remove Messi and Ronaldo's goals and see whether they'll still be regarded as goats.

I'm not arguing the importance of goal in football with you but outside goals football still got a lot to offer.

One thing in football is winning is important and goals give you that but remember you can't always win.
Goal is important but how you play to score that goal is also important, what you do when looking for that goal is also important.
Their is a reason footballer can win an award by not winning the competition.
You can't tell me you've not enjoy a football match of goaless draw.


Lionel Messi will be in the GOAT conversation without his goals.
Tell me how many goals Zidane and Ronaldinho have to be in the GOAT debate.

OVA200:
Werey no get any reason he said because osimhen is a Nigeria player.

Saying Osimhen should not come to Chelsea is talking him down?

Werey cannot hold an intelligent conversation it's either he turn it to insult or look for an intelligent person to gumbody to.

We found your excuse out.

Come out as a man and attest to the fact that here is engaging than your useless thread.

You will not die.

Like you really know him well.

anybody wey no see say osihmen go struggle for chelsea never learn,he is a poacher kind of striker he doesn't drop deep enough we Don't need him we have to be careful about this striker issue

🚨💥||Thomas Tuchel 'was sacked by Chelsea for mysterious off-the-field reasons - and because players lost respect for him', email from his ex-wife claims... as he seeks an injunction to stop her publishing it.

[BILD, via Mail Sport]


but boehly is the bad guy 🙄 one thing about tuchelcult is they don't want to hear

timbros:


Apart from the goals, what do you want from him? Clean sheets?

First, have you taken the correction?
If yes acknowledge it.

About your question:
Rank this strikers according to your football knowledge;
Drogba
Henry
Lukaku
Rooney
Ibrahimovic
Lewandowski
Suarez
Benzema.

I believe that will answer your question.

popizaino:





Like you really know him well.

I know him too well.

Baba no get anything upstairs.

popizaino:

The funniest part is he can't handle havertz. 10 in intelligent conversation.

Havertz.10 go smoke him even if baba is right.

popizaino:


You could have been right if the present coach just used this set of players to pass Bayern Munich.

Fraudchettino is at the level of the present coach. Not at Mou or Conte's level.

popizaino:


Let's establish the meaning of bottling first before we continue.

You know your Fraudchettino, then you know bottling.

andrewbaba44:
If you like talk about Afghanistan footballer ,if I get interest I go chook mouth and press necks for any stupid analysis

If e pain you ,go nack your coconut head for wall

As for osimhen ,he should better pray and hope for Madrid or Bayern who will he needing a cf soon ,he doesn’t need to join any suffer head club that their so called best striker cannot even outscore lukaku ,or even yakubu with 20 goals difference

This picture don suffer for your hand . How did the photographer get that angle?

Ibunkun1:


This picture don suffer for your hand . How did the photographer get that angle?

timbros:


1. I am 100percent sure you, as a football fan, know that you can't compare EPL to Zambian league. There is no way you can compare one Zambian coach that have won multiple trophies there to Ranieri who won just one EPL.

You know why those leagues are called the top 5 leagues in Europe. But just to drag argument, you will pretend you don't know.

Khadiri Ikana won CAF champions league wit Enyimba twice. No sane person will compare him to Tuchel who won the European equivalent just once.

Quality of trophy matters. Do you want me to literally spoonfeed you?

2. Is Pochettino better than Conte just based on their time in Spurs? Is that your metric of saying Pochettino is better than Conte? Really? So the other trophies Conte won outside Spurs is rubbish just because he didn't win it with Spurs? What kind of state nt is that?

If making UCL final is the reason why Pochettino is better than Conte then Grant is better than Mourinho too. EoD.

If I may ask you, in their while coaching careers, who is better, Pochettino or Conte? Why?

3. I don't understand what your point is by bringing in Ancelotti to the conversation. Do you think Parma is a small club during the era he coached there? Popi is everything okay?

Too many words yet repeating what you have said before and expecting to keep answering it.

No Zambia is not in europe and there is a reason why you will not find coaches who have won multiple trophies on this continent on the list of coaches with most trophies.

I will not leave you till you give me reasons why Walter Smith is not better than Claudio ranieri based on your own single metric of using trophies to judge coaches.

Quality of trophies matter yet Mircea Lucescu who literally won everything in Ukraine is rather higher than those with trophies in your supposed 1st tier league.

timbros:


Oga stop being childish.

I answered the question he asked based on how he asked it. Did he ask for facts on ground?



What do you understand by that bolded? Pay attention to that will win..... Do you want me to mention Juande Ramos that actually won a trophy or someone that will win a trophy?

Stop sounding ridiculous.

No one is being childish. I attend to everyone based on what they stand for and you stand for not wanting if and it why i have avoided using the same if since we started our discussions. Mourinho did not win,making finals does not guarantee winning so don't use if because if Pochettino also coached Juventus,Chelsea and Inter Milan like Conte he would also have won the league........Do you agree?

timbros:


Did Pochettino won leagues in different countries?

Why is Antonio conte the serial winner not winning something with Tottenham Hotspur?

OVA200:
I'm not arguing the importance of goal in football with you but outside goals football still got a lot to offer.

One thing in football is winning is important and goals give you that but remember you can't always win.
Goal is important but how you play to score that goal is also important, what you do when looking for that goal is also important.
Their is a reason footballer can win an award by not winning the competition.
You can't tell me you've not enjoy a football match of goaless draw.


Lionel Messi will be in the GOAT conversation without is goals.
Tell me how many goals Zidane and Ronaldinho have to be in the GOAT debate.

I'm saying remove goals from football and football is dead fullstop. All the long epistle ko necestri

Ellexy:
I'm saying remove goals from football and football is dead fullstop. All the long epistle ko necestri

Okay

If I may ask you between frank lampard, Zidane, Iniesta, Xavi and Paul scholes who is your greatest Midfielder?

Answer the question and put an end to the debate.

There are some light that not even the combine principalities and powers of Ekiti and ikwere can dim 😂. If you know you know.

Airmark will come and tell me sky sport is not credible enough😂😂