oteneaaron:



Hi OP,

Great thread.

I have a couple of questions -

Since gambling is a sin, why is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnesses accepting grants from the Norwegian Gambling Authority?

Just last year, you guys received over 4 million Norwegian Krones which is approximately over 3 million US dollars from their Gambling Authority.

See image proof below -

@Jokanem

I am still waiting for a reply to my question.

Cheers!

Kobojunkie:
1. Meaning God's Laws which happen to be the agreements/contracts that define the relationships we are able to have with God are meaningless to you, right?

2. The OP did what God warned him not to do which is to put words into His mouth.

So what is God's view of gambling?

Aemmyjah:
So what is God's view of gambling?

Search through the almost 100 commandments contained in the National Constitution of God's Special Kingdom of Priests aka the Kingdom of God, what you know as the Gospel aka God's Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, and you will find not single commandment or teaching instructing against gambling. What does that mean? It means gambling is not a sin.

oteneaaron:



Hi OP,

Great thread.

I have a couple of questions -

Since gambling is a sin, why is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnesses accepting grants from the Norwegian Gambling Authority?

Just last year, you guys received over 4 million Norwegian Krones which is approximately over 3 million US dollars from their Gambling Authority.

See image proof below -

Good question. He won't answer you o. All he knows is what Watchtower dumped into his head. Like a Zombie. Also, when MMM was on, there were JWs I know personally who were into it. Nobody practises Hypocrisy like JWs and Watchtower.

Kobojunkie:
Search through the almost 100 commandments contained in the National Constitution of God's Special Kingdom of Priests aka the Kingdom of God, what you know as the Gospel aka God's Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, and you will find not single commandment or teaching instructing against gambling. What does that mean? It means gambling is not a sin.

The Bible contains laws, commandments and principles
Where there are no defined laws on a matter, we have principles to guide us to know God's thinking on a matter and that is what the OP did. The Bible did not specifically mention tobacco, smoking, drugs, etc but there are principles to guide us.
Gambling is a form of greed and it stirs up the desire for greed - winning other people's money and many have sought spirististic powers to win. It develops the insatiable desires for materialism and it has destroyed many relationships and plunged many into huge debts and addiction
The Bible warns against greed. It says that greedy people will not inherit God's kingdom. Jesus himself warned his followers to guard against every form of greed. And gambling is one form
That's why I tell my friends that, if you are confused about a matter, ask yourself, what would Jesus have said or done about the matter
The OP dropped the truth and people in the forum are tormented

Aemmyjah:
■The Bible contains laws, commandments and principles. Where there are no defined laws on a matter, we have principles to guide us to know God's thinking on a matter and that is what the OP did. The Bible did not specifically mention tobacco, smoking, drugs, etc but there are principles to guide us.
■Gambling is a form of greed and it stirs up the desire for greed - winning other people's money and many have sought spirististic powers to win. It develops the insatiable desires for materialism and it has destroyed many relationships and plunged many into huge debts and addiction
■ The Bible warns against greed. It says that greedy people will not inherit God's kingdom. Jesus himself warned his followers to guard against every form of greed. And gambling is one form
■ That's why I tell my friends that, if you are confused about a matter, ask yourself, what would Jesus have said or done about the matter
The OP dropped the truth and people in the forum are tormented

1. I am afraid this meaningless gobbledegook fed you by your pastors and mogs, in your case GBs. God explicitly warned, in both of His Laws — the Law of Moses which happens to be the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan, as well as the New Covenant, which happens to be the National Constitution of God's Special Nation of Priests aka the Kingdom of God — that you not add or change or remove from His Law. His Law defines for us that which is sin and that which is not sin, and attempts to add what are one's personal delusions to God's Law amounts to installing oneself over God Himself.

2. Your personal theories regarding gambling are meaningless where God's Law is concerned. I hope you know and understand that.

3. You say gambling is greed but Jesus Christ never said gambling is greed, and rightly so because gambling is what we do every day of our lives as human beings even. Even the breath we take is a gamble as we gamble that we will take in oxygen and nothing poisonous with each breath. So your conclusion which you clearly reached outside of Jesus Christ — since Jesus Christ never said gambling is greed — in fact not of Jesus Christ. Putting these words of yours in the mouth of Jesus Christ amounts to teaching the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, which are against God and that is antiChrist - Matthew 15 vs 1- 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

4. Using the name of Jesus Christ to teach what are your private delusions puts you against Jesus Christ who warned that these lies have nothing to do with Him.

Aemmyjah:

Gambling is a form of greed and it stirs up the desire for greed - winning other people's money and many have sought spirististic powers to win. It develops the insatiable desires for materialism and it has destroyed many relationships and plunged many into huge debts and addiction

The Bible warns against greed. It says that greedy people will not inherit God's kingdom. Jesus himself warned his followers to guard against every form of greed. And gambling is one form

That's why I tell my friends that, if you are confused about a matter, ask yourself, what would Jesus have said or done about the matter

The OP dropped the truth and people in the forum are tormented

Since Gambling is such an evil habit and a form of greed, why is your organization receiving a yearly grant from the Norwegian Gambling Authority?

Is that not a double standard?

Last year alone, your organization was paid almost 4M US dollars from a Gambling Authority!

Does that not make you a hypocrite?

Courz:


Good question. He won't answer you o. All he knows is what Watchtower dumped into his head. Like a Zombie. Also, when MMM was on, there were JWs I know personally who were into it. Nobody practises Hypocrisy like JWs and Watchtower.

The silence from the OP @Jokanem is loud.

You say gambling is a sin and yet your religious organization is accepting a yearly grant in millions of dollars from the Norwegian Gambling Authority.

Please make it make sense.

Is this is not blatant hipocrisy?

Do as I say but not as I do?

oteneaaron:


The silence from the OP @Jokanem is loud.

You say gambling is a sin and yet your religious organization is accepting a yearly grant in millions of dollars from the Norwegian Gambling Authority.

Please make it make sense.

Is this is not blatant hipocrisy?


Do as I say but not as I do?

His silence is really loud. Watchtower just loves to create Rules for JWs and enjoys pressurising them to follow them and punish them when they don't but they don't necessarily follow their own rules. Na JWs wey dey take them serious I dey pity. Their Freemason Governing body Stephen Let gave a talk about Dangers of Materialism but he is the same person with many properties and investments. How many JWs can boast of having many properties? JWs are swimming in poverty while Watchtower is raking Billions of dollars. They had no conscience in collecting money from a Gambling Authority but their website is filled with articles about dangers of Gambling. Rules for you but not for me.

Big sin

I know gluttony is a sin. Yes love of too much food.

However gambling, lottery is not bt it can lead u to sin maybe, so it is discouraged just like drinking of wine is not a sin bt discouraged.

Gambling might be a sin, honestly I don't really care because I don't gamble..

But if you say gambling is a sin, while forex trading isn't, then U do not have common Sense....

Same principles, different methods, all gambling...forex is and will always be a gamble..

Nothing wey u fit tell me

If you loose it's a sin, but if you win no be sin

MaxInDHouse:


Gambling is a crime from God's standpoint!

It promotes greed in the society all you need is thorough explanation to understand the matter, that is if you want to know.

not from God stand point but the bible

Yes it's a sin Read Quran 5 vs 90
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O believers! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and drawing lots for decisions1 are all evil of Satan’s handiwork. So shun them so you may be successful.

Not a sin

Even the whole Idea of heaven and Hell is a gamble

No.is choice

Op don run leave him thread
If gambling is a sin then you want me to remain poor forever because my last hope now na bet9ja and forex abi you go help me with money op?? stupid fool

Jokanem:
Is Gambling a Sin?

Although the Bible does not discuss gambling in detail, we can discern from Bible principles that God views gambling as a sin.​—Ephesians 5:​17. a

Gambling is driven by greed, which God hates. (1 Corinthians 6:​9, 10; Ephesians 5:​3, 5)

Gamblers hope to gain money through the losses of others, but the Bible condemns coveting other people’s possessions.​—Exodus 20:17; Romans 7:7; 13:​9, 10.

Gambling, even for small amounts, can arouse a destructive love of money.​—1 Timothy 6:​9, 10.

Gamblers often rely on superstitions or luck. However, God views such beliefs as a form of idolatry, which is incompatible with his worship.​—Isaiah 65:11.

Rather than promote a desire to get something for nothing, the Bible encourages hard work. (Ecclesiastes 2:​24; Ephesians 4:​28) Those who follow the Bible’s advice can “eat food they themselves earn.”​—2 Thessalonians 3:​10, 12.

Gambling can arouse an unhealthy competitive spirit, which is disapproved in the Bible.​—Galatians 5:​26.

Gambling is a sweet sin.

A very very sweet sin.

Hope you're satisfied now?

immanuelsize:
@op jokanem, young man, i have questions for you, do you practice other things in the bible? Why must you preach about gambling? Don't you see other things to preach? Better mind the type of preaching and comparison you making with the bible. Na your dey carry bible for head yet, never practice it.
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admin, seun, just close this thread. It doesn't worth discussing.

Gamble addict spotted

"Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." (James 4:17)


The Bible is clear on everything!

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid this meaningless gobbledegook fed you by your pastors and mogs, in your case GBs. God explicitly warned, in both of His Laws — the Law of Moses which happens to be the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan, as well as the New Covenant, which happens to be the National Constitution of God's Special Nation of Priests aka the Kingdom of God — that you not add or change or remove from His Law. His Law defines for us that which is sin and that which is not sin, and attempts to add what are one's personal delusions to God's Law amounts to installing oneself over God Himself.

2. Your personal theories regarding gambling are meaningless where God's Law is concerned. I hope you know and understand that.

3. You say gambling is greed but Jesus Christ never said gambling is greed, and rightly so because gambling is what we do every day of our lives as human beings even. Even the breath we take is a gamble as we gamble that we will take in oxygen and nothing poisonous with each breath. So your conclusion which you clearly reached outside of Jesus Christ — since Jesus Christ never said gambling is greed — in fact not of Jesus Christ. Putting these words of yours in the mouth of Jesus Christ amounts to teaching the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, which are against God and that is antiChrist - Matthew 15 vs 1- 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

4. Using the name of Jesus Christ to teach what are your private delusions puts you against Jesus Christ who warned that these lies have nothing to do with Him.

Hahahahahah
See this one
I quote from the Bible and it has nothing to do with the GB
So you want to tell us that apart from Jehovahs witnesses, all other churches now approve of gambling? Omg... Nothing can surprise me

Why not visit Google and type 'God's view of gambling'
There are several sites and articles that talks about it and come back to tell us whether it is a doctrinal thing or not
I have non witness friends that preach against it. Gambling is fuelled by greed. I'm sorry to tell you this cos it is a truth you don't want to hear

Stocks, crypto-trading, forex, t-bills, mutual funds are also sin then.
you stake on bitcoin to rise, sell and make profit. you stake on mtn stock to rise so you can sell and make profit. you stake on usd/yuan to rise and make profit. you stake on chelsea to win leceister to make profit.
gambling is not a sin. Addiction to it is a sin.

Ndubuisipaul1:
If you loose it's a sin, but if you win no be sin

I don't really know if gambling is a sin but all I know is that gambling is designed to condemn and ruin human in the hope of winning some imaginary millions which will eventually brings you to condemnation if you're not careful and stop immediately.

immanuelsize:
@op jokanem, young man, i have questions for you, do you practice other things in the bible? Why must you preach about gambling? Don't you see other things to preach? Better mind the type of preaching and comparison you making with the bible. Na your dey carry bible for head yet, never practice it.
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admin, seun, just close this thread. It doesn't worth discussing.

Nobody will close this thread, we love it cos is educative

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid this meaningless gobbledegook fed you by your pastors and mogs, in your case GBs. God explicitly warned, in both of His Laws — the Law of Moses which happens to be the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan, as well as the New Covenant, which happens to be the National Constitution of God's Special Nation of Priests aka the Kingdom of God — that you not add or change or remove from His Law. His Law defines for us that which is sin and that which is not sin, and attempts to add what are one's personal delusions to God's Law amounts to installing oneself over God Himself.

2. Your personal theories regarding gambling are meaningless where God's Law is concerned. I hope you know and understand that.

3. You say gambling is greed but Jesus Christ never said gambling is greed, and rightly so because gambling is what we do every day of our lives as human beings even. Even the breath we take is a gamble as we gamble that we will take in oxygen and nothing poisonous with each breath. So your conclusion which you clearly reached outside of Jesus Christ — since Jesus Christ never said gambling is greed — in fact not of Jesus Christ. Putting these words of yours in the mouth of Jesus Christ amounts to teaching the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, which are against God and that is antiChrist - Matthew 15 vs 1- 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

4. Using the name of Jesus Christ to teach what are your private delusions puts you against Jesus Christ who warned that these lies have nothing to do with Him.

1. The OT does not belong to anyone Constitution today. You want to tell me that gambling was practiced in those days? No. Same with smoking and drugs that the Bible did not give laws cos it was not practiced then or even amongst the pagan neighbors. Go to Israel and observe their constitution

2. I quoted these 'theories' from the Bible. You seem to be pained. Are you an addict?

3. Jesus said guard against[b] every form or greed[/b]. It is that same greed in you that is making you angry. What has the context of the gambling the OP mentioned got to do with breathing? Are you OK? Breath of life is a free gift of God to all- plants, animals and humans. It is like you need to visit your dictionary to explain gambling for you but I can do it free of charge if you don't have an app. Bible also mentions to guard against every form of sexual immorality and I watch porn, can I justify my action since I have no contact with anyone, same with masturbation cos that is what most 'Christians' here reason. Jesus gave a principle or principles- 'keep your eyes simple, guard against every form of greed'. Guard against the love of money... Be content. Principles applies to every aspect of our lives. Honestly though, I have a colleague who won over 100,000 recently but it is far less all the money he has used in gambling. I heard of stories of those that won but got killed. There are countless stories of people who have had broken families, relationships, lost their jobs cos of gambling and it comes in many subtle forms. To be honest, I was also affected during lockdown when I was encouraged by a colleague to 'invest'. My conscience warned me so much but I felt I'll do it once. The thing crashed that very day. The guy knew but did that to win referrals. So my dear, keep fooling yourself

4. Avoid gambling is a delusion? You need a drink madam