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Fmr. Russia President, Medvedev Replies Elon Musk's 2022 Tweet About Bakhmut / 'Bakhmut Is Down' - Russia Captures Bakhmut City In Ukraine (Photo) / The Ukrainian Army Begins The Siege Of The Russian Army In Bakhmut (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by leofab(f): 4:01am On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie:mentioning talibans show how shallow your mentality is? How can u compare both conventional and guerrilla warfare ? |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 6:36am On Mar 12, 2023 |
leofab: Well, the Taliban took their country back conventionally. They started by seizing territories outside the capital till they get to the capital. They actually engaged the US & Afghan forces. They were not hiding in the mountain and coming out to attack and go back into hidding-Guerila warfare. They regrouped, came out in large numbers and started seizing cities. When they got to the capital, they successfully push the US and Afghan troops to the Afghan airport. Russian style in Syria is destroy the enemy totally. If not for US and Turkish military bases. Russia and Syrian forces would have retaken the entire Syrian territory. The tactic was attack a major city. Surround the city and destroy the enemy totally. The US was just forcing Taliban to leave cities when they invaded Afghanistan. They were using their heavy equipments (air and ground) to push the Taliban out of cities and not destroy them. They were wary of having heavy casualties. You don't push die hard militant group out of a city and you expect them not to come back. They were supposed to destroy them. Chasing the enemy out of cities will give you a quick victory. But it will become a problem in the future. Because they will always come back. Destroying them takes time, but it will permanently solve them problem. People hail the US troops when they quickly seize territories. But it has alway been the worst tactics ever. So the US failed woefully. There is not excuse. Former France presidential candidate-La Pen once said he would work with Russia to end terrorism in France when she ran for the presidency the first time. Russia learnt a lot during the 1st & 2nd Chenchen war. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 8:26am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Badassniggga: This one na real olodo proper |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 8:31am On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie:. All the sabotage, espionage and killings Israel have carried out on Iran is enough for all out war between both, but why is Iran so Chicken ππ Let Iran try such on Israel make we see, even China de run whenever dem hear USA na chicken Iran wan cough DerrickzB and Kalistus01 where are you 4k boys? |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Badassniggga(m): 8:44am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Hotice085:fΓΈol. Have Israel ever had any direct conflict or war with Iran? Yes or no? Olodo wey no sabi anything for international politics coming here to sound smart. 2 Likes |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 9:06am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Hotice085: No It is not enough. 2 Likes |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 9:32am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Hotice085: Countries carry out espionage on each other. Sabotage and cyber attack has become norm. You don't just send more of your soldiers to death and waste tax payer because one person was killed by saboteurs or because your infrastructure was destroyed. The best thing you can do is to respond in kind, IF YOU CAN.. The US invaded Afghanistan because Osama Bin Laden blew up the world trade center. It turns out to be a disaster. It took them years before they could kill the man. In the process they wasted tax payers money and the soldiers that die, probably died for nothing. The lives of the soldiers would have been preserved, if they just send the CIA after the guy. The CIA can work with Pakistan and some anti-Taliban groups in Afganistan to track him down. War guaranties more death and more money to be wasted. If it doesn't worth it, countries don't go for it. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by TonySpike: 11:55am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Dead orcs litter the fields of Bakhmut. Attrition rate is currently 5 dead Russians to 1 dead Ukrainian. 1 Like
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Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 12:10pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
TonySpike: Your is a bit lower. Ukraine officials said it is 7:1. The war will be over one day and the truth will come out. As long as the main Russian troops on the front line are intact and there are more than 200k troops in reserve (some are in Belarus, Kharkiv border e.t.c). Russia won't be affected compare to Ukraine. The Wagner may be paying a heavy price, but trust me, they are killing the Ukrainians too. My own assessment is that it is 1:1 because Russia has artillery & air support advantage. The Chenchens and the main Russian troops are always ready to strike. The moment Bakhmut falls. They will swing into action and seize the two main cities (Kramatorsk and Slovyansk). 5 Likes |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 12:31pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Badassniggga: Another olodo, but this time a MEGA OLODO wanting to display his ever useless self, thunder β‘βοΈ fire you lizard π¦ brain SOB |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 12:34pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Badassniggga:. Another olodo, but this time a MEGA OLODO wanting to display his ever useless self, thunder β‘βοΈ fire you lizard π¦ brain SOB |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 12:38pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie: Tell me one direct national security threat Iran has carried out against Israel and I will tell you very direct national threats Israel has perpetuate against Iran |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 12:44pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Iran is not threatening to strike Israel. It is Israel that is threatening to destroy Iran nuclear sites which Iran has made it clear that it will respond. Israel has nuclear weapon and they don't want Iran to have. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 12:51pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie: So you support how the Russians are throwing ill-equiped, under trained men into war zones to go and get killed Do you know mothers and wives are protesting how their sons and husband are giving just 4days training and then thrown into war fronts to go die like chicken In Bakhmut while Ukrainian are wasting ammunitions, Russian are wasting human beings while they keep their elite force well equipped and battle free How can a country Armed force be segregating her citizens, can you try such rubbish in any western Nations? You are sending men to war with shovels, no shoes, bullets are you a normal being? |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by BidenDConquerer: 12:57pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie:It's not 1:1 1 Like
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Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 1:10pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Hotice085: If the Wagner fighters are ill-equipped or untrained, it should show on the battlefield. Have ever asked yourself why the ill-equipped and untrained are taking settlements after settlements from the well trained and well equipped Ukrainian troops? The reports are filled with lies. These same people told you that the Russians are not well equipped for winter. They talked about how thousands of Russian troops will die from cold. They also told you that the war will take a pause during this period. But what happened in the end. Russia intensify it attack and started gaining ground in Donetsk. These are the people that they said were not well equipped for the winter. It is just common sense. We need to start thinking independently. It is not everything they throw at you that you accept. It is not a rocket science. 70% of the mobilized men have not even join the war. More than 200k of the 300k have been trained and trained. They are in reserve. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 1:12pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
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Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by BidenDConquerer: 1:13pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie:Not everyone is capable of doing that. Certainly not the moniker you mentioned. 3 Likes |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 1:16pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
BidenDConquerer: Lol 2 Likes |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Appleyard(m): 1:19pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Hotice085: At the bolded.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by BidenDConquerer: 1:26pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Appleyard:This one corruption (corrupted by propaganda) is beyond redemption ![]() I'm referring to the moniker you mentioned. 1 Like |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 1:30pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
BidenDConquerer: Do you also believe that the Russians are not well equipped and not well trained? Do you believe that the Russians are armed with shovel too? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by BidenDConquerer: 1:39pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie:No..it's only mad people that say that. Their minds have been corrupted by Western propaganda. And when you look at the propaganda..the West isn't even putting in enough effort to make it believable yet a few people swallow it hook, line and sinker. 1 Like |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by BidenDConquerer: 1:40pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie:It's very bad for the Nazis in Ukraine...very very bad and Russia hasn't even started anything yet. 1 Like |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 1:41pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
BidenDConquerer: Lol 2 Likes |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 1:52pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Appleyard: Rossified slowpoke so when the Russians soldiers were stealing washing machines, cutleries even pots of soups from Ukrainians after their towns were liberated na propaganda You are a monkey π΅π that has been Rossified |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 1:57pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Hotice085: Lol! So what are they eating now that there is nothing to steal? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 2:17pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie:. You that think deeply tell me how many private media houses and TV stations in Russia that you source your information from? Tell me how many journalist activist or opposition figures inside of Russia we can verify the jargons you are writing about? Can you tell us if the name of the Wagner boss is being mentioned on Government controlled state media, is the ministry of Defense and the Wagner boss working together if so why is he on social media saying they are the one that are saving Russia from disgrace? 70% hasn't been used but the Russian have changed their Generals in charge of the war over 4times can you plz give us why it is so Are criminals being used in the war and from your "thinking deep knowledge" are the Russian maintaining the convention of war? If they are gaining ground do you bother to think at what cost or you are the type that also support humans being killed as chicken π just to capture a small town to prove what? Winter has come and is fading off but Gen. Armageddon who promised victory is no where to seen instead you are here telling us mobilized trash from a country that can't feed her soldiers at war 1 Like |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 2:29pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie: Dying like chickens at the hands of Ukrainians, that useless Chechnya hooligans do you hear him running his lose mouth again? If POOtin can change his General like housefly since the invasion begin what does your deep thinking tells you is going on at the battlefield? |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 2:51pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
None of the information I posted above came from Russia. I used Kyiv Independent, ISW, Aljazeera e.t.c. Criminals have been used in war and they will continue to be used. You can't tell me that there are able-bodied men in Ukraine prison just sleeping and eating. They are all at the frontline. This is not the first time. There is no war, that prisoners are not involved. Nobody is using human wave tactics. The Ukrainians are not doing it. Likewise the Russians. It is unsustainable. The entire Wagner fighters are not more than 50k. In this modern day and age where military possess weapon of mass destruction. If you use human wave tactics, you can loose the entire 50k in days. It is just common sense. This is not WWW II where millions of soldiers are involve. Bakhmut is a fortress. Taking it will involve huge casualties likewise defending it. Russia didn't attack the city head on. Attacking the city head on will likely produce unsustainable losses. So the Russians decide to go around the city from the north and the south. The troops at the city gate use enormous artilery shells to force the defenders to abandon their fortification gradually by killing them in the trenches and destroying the fortification. Each settlement the defenders evacuate, the attackers occupy it. This is why seizing the city is taking time. The Russians are not just throwing fighters to frontline to die. Because if they do that, they will loose them quickly and will be forced to use your main troops. No Russian official has come to give anybody time table or talk about their intention. Sorovikin never talked about defeating Ukraine. He talked about stopping Ukraine from advancing, which he was able to do successfully. Analyst come on air to talk about what they feel Russia is planning or their next line of action. The Russians themselves only release daily report of the war and nothing more. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by olugabbie(m): 2:57pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Hotice085: Russian regular troops are almost not active at this time. They are resting. The Ukrainians are not launching any offensive any where, in Lugansk/Kharkiv direction, Kherson direction, Zaprophyzia direction. The main Russian troops are resting. They are waiting for a breakthrough in Bakhmut. |
Re: Update On Bakhmut Front by Hotice085: 3:11pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
olugabbie: So since the Ukrainians kicked em outta Kiev Kharkov and other occupied towns they want on holiday? Ogbeni can you for once imagine that long convoy of soldiers and weapons the dumb ass Russians marched towards Kiev that they try such nonsense with any any western nations do you know how many would have died like chickens? You see that mistake shows how dumb they are, they are lucky Ukraine lacks airpower by now this war would be long over So tell me how Iran has threaten Israel sovereignty just once when Israel has done it countless time against them? |
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