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Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 7:51pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Banilla: Joining a Religion is a Bad IDEA. Except there is a Religion that thrives on Scientific Research and has zero tolerance for Dogma. Religions by Design are tools of Spiritual Warfare Architecture, a serious mental war is what they are designed for. Cos Religions will keep you ignorant till the end of your mortal existence. Faith thrives in ignorance, you believe what you do not know, you have faith in things you can not process the dynamics. Religion can be a tool, but be careful about concucted lies in them and the ignorant dictation of things early hybrids did not fully understand. 4 Likes |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by lymelyte(m): 7:55pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire:Nice ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 7:56pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire:I'm atheist. I'm curious. ![]() What I wanted to know was where you got what you wrote. Did you come up with it? Or you read it someone? Or? |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Kobojunkie: 7:57pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Banilla:1. Hidden meaning? Scripture does not have what you call "hidden meanings" but rather contexts that one has to pay close attention to and rightly so given the books were written over several lifetimes and peoples. ![]() 2. What assumption? ![]() 3. Warrior angel? God's chosen? where is this from? Also, who were Satan and demons against Israel in the Old Testament? ![]() 4. Which Heaven? God doesn't live in Heaven though. Instead, Heaven is described as His throne room and the earth his footstool by Isaiah. So, did this war you speak of take place inside of the same throne room where God sits or where? ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 8:06pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I'll bite... 1 and 2. You're still assuming. You once told me to take the origin story (the most ridiculous of them), as it is... No meaning, no context, no nothing. So do the same. We're not going to analyze anything. What you read is what the writers meant. Period. 3. Not against Israel but against God at the end of days!!!! Angels fell with Lucifer in the Bible and there would be a war (clearly predicted) between God and the devil. The Israelites called on Angel Michael to defend them because he was a warrior and protector. They needed to, with all they endured. So calling him the Prince of Israel isn't abnormal. 4. Where doesn't God live? Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “’Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,’ who was, and is, and is to come.” God is praised for all eternity in his throne room. Why does he need to leave? To play golf? ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 8:07pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
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Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 8:19pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire:I just stumbled on a thread you created with another account. I'll go though it. Thanks! ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 8:21pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Banilla: That can not be me. Where do I have time to sit on nairaland and chat? I am too busy for such nonsense. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Kobojunkie: 8:21pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Banilla:1. There is a context to the origin story and the meaning is as indicated in the writing. In the same way, there is a context to what we are discussing here and the meaning is found in what is in fact written. Even the writings in the book of dream vision that is Revelation has context to them that needs to be respected if one is to in fact understand what is written. ![]() Micheal is introduced as a prince of Israel, one who advocates on behalf of Israel. How did Michael go from being that to becoming an archangel? That detail is found nowhere in scripture and for good reason because the stories of Michael are of myth. ![]() 3. Just so you know, the end of days described in Revelations 12 vs 1 - 17 describes that which took place up until God's Old Covenant Judgment which happened about 1900 years ago. ![]() There are no angels that are recorded to have fallen with Lucifer. For one, lucifer is a myth instead Jesus Christ is depicted as the brighter morning star - Revelations 22 vs 16. Yes, Jesus Christ is instead the Lucifer in Scripture. Also, your claims that the Israelites called on Angel Michael to save them are ![]() ![]() 4. If God were indeed for eternity in that very throne room that is Heaven, where you also believe that a war broke out between the angels and the devil, how exactly did that happen? Did the Devil and his angels invade the throne room, followed by an army of angels who then proceeded to battle them all while God who sat there for eternity watched them disturb His peace? ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 8:34pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire:. Are you hiding? I'm not smart ![]() This isn't yours? https://www.nairaland.com/5222792/reality-simulation-within-greater-simulation#78971670 |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 8:35pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Heaven is more than God's throne room obviously, he has no reason to wander around tho. So he sits there listen to them sing all day and night. But who knows what heaven is like? Btw, you wrote trash. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 8:37pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Banilla: 2019. Sorry about that. I thought I had shut down this. That is some 3 years ago. I have evolved beyond those levels and I can not guarantee that there are no conjectures those posts but should be a good guide. I usually delete my accounts but I guess I may have lost access to the e-mail I used to set it up. Which is why I am surprise that I left a footprint. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Kobojunkie: 8:38pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Banilla:1. Since when did Heaven become more than God's throne room, abeg? ![]() 2. You continue to post ideas that aren't of scripture, ideas born of delusions of men. All I can do is tell you what scripture says instead. ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 8:39pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire: ![]() Oh! It's alright... Thank you. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 8:46pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Banilla: Go through them, it will be useful to your understanding since you are already atheist. Do not believe them. Belief is silly. Know them. 1 Like |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 10:48pm On Mar 11, 2023 |
Where's Dtruthspeaker? ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:37am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Banilla: Just touched down. Hashabiah has given you the answer I would have given you, then you asked this Banilla: If you had overcome sin here then you can overcome it anywhere. He that is trusted in little can be trusted with much. Satan is called devil because devil means "the-evil" ((D'evil) like D'day is "the day and Satan got man to eat "the evil", so we are inherently evil. But we are not going to the new heaven and earth (not heaven) with this corrupt substance that makes us, but with a new one. And the Bible Said "just like angels" which means Angels do not have evil as shown by the Genesis Fall. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 9:29am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:If angels do not have evil, how could they commit sin? Plus, Lucifer had already committed the sin of pride long before Adam and Eve... So sin had already existed before they ate the fruit. Also, why would Lucifer sin? Adam and Eve were tempted, but there was nothing to tempt Lucifer. 1 Like |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Sapiens1: 5:49pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire: Please sir I am a big fan of yours. Please can you teach me how to astral project? I don't know where to start.. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 6:16pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
Sapiens1:Tones of articles on Youtube, Tik tok and search engines on how to do that. Some people project using psychelics, mushrooms, Ayuasca and other drugs too. So if the natural process is too tough, understand that you can access the realities using any means, There are even chants that tunes your pineal gland to open you up to alternate Realities. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Sapiens1: 10:06pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire: Thanks sir. When I succeed in achieving that, I will let you know. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 7:53am On Mar 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse would you answer these questions? Can angels sin against God? 2 Likes |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Sapiens1: 6:21pm On Mar 13, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire:. Sir sorry for this question. Is it possible to use cannabis to astral project without smoking them? Just like putting it in a drink or something like that. And if is true how is it done? I have searched videos and few sites it seems contradictory and I am befuddled by some explanations. Thanks as I anticipate your reply. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 8:29pm On Mar 13, 2023 |
Sapiens1: Cannabis deprograms the nervous system and also entrain brainwaves for neurotransmission. If taken in excess it can expand your consciousness and open the floodgates of data stream decryption to mind. I am ignorant of its effectiveness for astral projection. I will like to research on that. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Sapiens1: 10:22pm On Mar 13, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire: Sir Is there any method I can employ to make a successful projection? |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by TheBillyonaire: 7:40am On Mar 14, 2023 |
Sapiens1: The Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) has a practical step by step approach to it. Eckankar is great on Soul Travel too. You might want to become member of these spiritual organizations if you want guidance into the spirit world or alternate realms, with Guidance. But if you want to venture into those realms alone without guidelines you just have to go through the steps which are all over the internet from search engines. |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Sapiens1: 3:36pm On Mar 14, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire: Okay sir I will try |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by tctrills: 11:37pm On Mar 14, 2023 |
Banilla:First about heaven being an imperfect place? We don't talk about imperfect places rather we discuss imperfect people. Also remember that God would create a new heaven and a new earth and the formal one would be remembered no more. The same way you are allowed to sin against God and challenge his authority is the same freedom given to angels. No one knows who put evil in the heart of Lucifer, that's yet to be revealed |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:45am On Mar 15, 2023 |
Banilla: No wonder you only flow with those that mock faith but it's OK when something doesn't have any meaning to you that doesn't necessarily mean others won't be interested. Faith in itself is not something that interests all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2 |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Banilla: 10:18am On Mar 15, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: ![]() Have I ever mocked Christians? It's not my fault most don't understand the Bible. ![]() |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:02pm On Mar 15, 2023 |
Banilla: It's a pity that you're among those who failed woefully to understand the Bible! Most of you have a totally wrong expectation of what Christianity should produce in the society instead your main concern is what God should do for you individually, that's where most people like you missed the import of that book! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Are Angels Allowed The Free Will To Sin Against God? by Kobojunkie: 2:06pm On Mar 15, 2023 |
Banilla:Do you understand the bible? ![]() |
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