Michael548:

So are you agreeing now that Jesus is with his flesh in heaven?

Didn't you read the verse, Jesus had flesh and bones.

Steep:
Note Jesus said he was not a spirit though he didn't have any blood meaning Jesus was still a man although he had no blood.

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

So are you agreeing that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh?

Steep:
Didn't you read the verse, Jesus had flesh and bones.

So if Jesus is in heaven with flesh and bones, how then is he equal to The Father?

Michael548:

So are you agreeing that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh?

Did Jesus die in the spirit before?

Steep:
Did Jesus die in the spirit before?

Read 1 Peter 3:18 and explain

Michael548:

So if Jesus is in heaven with flesh and bones, how then is he equal to The Father?

Go back and read my previous post on 1 corrith 15 vv 21 to 25 or there about.

Kobojunkie:
A man is different from a spirit? You mean a man cannot exist while equally spirit?

Can a man enter in heaven with flesh and blood?

Michael548:

Read 1 Peter 3:18 and explain

Raised to life in the Spirit is not same as raised to life as a Spirit.

Steep:


Go back and read my previous post on 1 corrith 15 vv 21 to 25 or there about.

Lol...you are contradicting yourself.....you have argued that Jesus was not equal to God as a man and that Jesus is still a man in heaven. So how can Jesus be equal to the Father as a man in heaven?
Answer please.

Steep:

Raised to life in the Spirit is not same as raised to life as a Spirit.

Lol....explain

Michael548:
■ Can a man enter in heaven with flesh and blood?

1. Where is it written that a man cannot? Jesus Christ entered into Heaven flesh and blood intact. So, where?

Kobojunkie:
According to scripture, Jesus Christ went up to Heaven clothed in flesh and blood. At what point on His journey to Heaven did He shed said flesh and blood covering?

Explain 1 peter 3:18

Kobojunkie:
1. Where is it written that a man cannot? Jesus Christ entered into Heaven flesh and blood intact. So, where?

Explain 1 Peter 3:18

Michael548:

So you are saying that Jesus was resurrected in flesh?

see eh, I assume you're not digitally deaf/blind, that question was answered.
I can be wrong but it seems you are focused on some pack of cards you have to play that you do not even take the time to listen open-mindedly.
If someone asks a simple question you skip it and put an answer in their mouth, to accuse them of another thing that will warrant another card. honestly, guy, we can be better every day... you can be more reasonable.

Believe whatever you want o.
I heard some people's own Jesus even ran down from the cross to avoid death... we still leave in peace.

Michael548:
■ Explain 1 peter 3:18

1. Let's see what Peter in fact says.

18 Christ himself suffered when he died for you, and with that one death, he paid for your sins. He was not guilty, but he died for people who are guilty. He did this to bring all of you to God. In his physical form he was killed, but he was made alive by the Spirit.
19 And by the Spirit he went and preached to the spirits in prison.
20 Those were the spirits who refused to obey God long ago in the time of Noah. God was waiting patiently for people while Noah was building the big boat. And only a few—eight in all—were saved in the boat through the floodwater.
21 And that water is like baptism, which now saves you. Baptism is not the washing of dirt from the body. It is asking God for a clean conscience. It saves you because Jesus Christ was raised from death.
22 Now he has gone into heaven. He is at God’s right side and rules over angels, authorities, and powers. - 1 Peter 3 vs 18 - 22

According to the above passage, Peter seems to be saying that while Jesus Christ was in the grave— physically dead—, the Spirit made Him alive— He was conscious, spiritually at least—, even in death. Verse 19 indicates this as it also insists that Jesus Christ, was able to go preach to the spirits in the prison by virtue of this.

So, what has this to do with the question asked?

Docjay487:

see eh, I assume you're not digitally deaf/blind, that question was answered.

It seems you are focused on some pack of cards you have to play that you do not even take the time to listen open-mindedly.
If someone asks a simple question you skip it and put an answer in their mouth, to accuse them of another thing that will warrant another card. honestly, guy, we can be better every day... you can be more reasonable.

Sadly, you just confirmed my suspicion sha.
Take my old advice.

Uncle don't resort to insult....
Please explain 1 peter 3:18 and 1 Corinthians 15:42-44
Since you claim Jesus is in heaven with his flesh and blood

Kobojunkie:
1. Let's see what Peter in fact says.
According to the above passage, Peter seems to be saying that while Jesus Christ was in the grave— physically dead—, the Spirit made Him alive— He was conscious, spiritually at least—, even in death. Verse 19 indicates this as it also insists that Jesus Christ, was able to go preach to the spirits in the prison by virtue of this.

Ok....was Jesus resurrected with his fleshly body according to Peter?

Michael548:
■Ok....was Jesus resurrected with his fleshly body according to Peter?

1. Peter's statement in that entire passage does not even address the resurrection, instead, he addressed only that which took place while Jesus Christ was in the grave — physically dead— for 3 days. So?

Michael548:

So please define Trinity as you understand it.

What do you understand by it?

Michael548:

Uncle don't resort to insult....
Please explain 1 peter 3:18 and 1 Corinthians 15:42-44
Since you claim Jesus is in heaven with his flesh and blood

Are you saying you are born again?


That's how you typically answer questions... Uncle

Michael548:

Uncle don't resort to insult.... [ ]

ahh

Please keep track on who said what, you've been missing that too (never an insult... Uncle)

Michael548:

Does not 1 Corinthians 15:27 say that Jesus would be made subject to God who subjected all things to him minus God himself?

So?

Kobojunkie:
1. Peter's statement in that entire passage does not even address the resurrection, instead, he addressed only that which took place while Jesus Christ was in the grave — physically dead— for 3 days. So?

So after Jesus was physically dead in flesh, how was he resurrected? With the same flesh? Read 1 Corinthians 15:42-44

tctrills:


So?

How is he the Almighty, since he is subject to God?

Michael548:

How is he the Almighty, since he is subject to God?

Almighty simply means he has all power as you read in Matthew.

tctrills:

Almighty simply means he has all power as you read in Matthew.

So he has all power and still subjected? Who is the Father subjected to?

Michael548:

So he has all power and still subjected? Who is the Father subjected to?

It said all powers given unto him. It did not say the Father is subject to him. You should be making your argument with Jesus Christ that made the statement if you don't believe it not me

tctrills:

It said all powers given unto him. It did not say the Father is subject to him. You should be making your argument with Jesus Christ that made the statement if you don't believe it not me

You said that Jesus is not lesser than the father isn't it?
But the bible says he is subject to the Father. So how come he is equal to the Father? Don't you believe that the Father is greater than Jesus?

Michael548:

Lol...you are contradicting yourself.....you have argued that Jesus was not equal to God as a man and that Jesus is still a man in heaven. So how can Jesus be equal to the Father as a man in heaven?
Answer please.

So where did I tell you Jesus is equal to God as a man?

Steep:
So where did I tell you Jesus is equal to God as a man?

Lol....so you agree now that Jesus is still not equal to God in heaven since he is still a man with flesh and bone in heaven?

Michael548:
So after Jesus was physically dead in flesh, how was he resurrected? With the same flesh? Read 1 Corinthians 15:42-44

Let's examine what Paul in fact says in his epistle.

35 But someone may ask, “How are the dead raised? What kind of body will they have?”
36 These are stupid questions. When you plant something, it must die in the ground before it can live and grow.
37 And when you plant something, what you plant does not have the same “body” that it will have later. What you plant is only a seed, maybe wheat or something else.
38 But God gives it the body that he has planned for it, and he gives each kind of seed its own body.
39 All things made of flesh are not the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds have another, and fish have yet another kind.
40 Also there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. But the beauty of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the beauty of the earthly bodies is another.
41 The sun has one kind of beauty, the moon has another kind, and the stars have another. And each star is different in its beauty.
42 It will be the same when those who have died are raised to life. The body that is “planted” in the grave will ruin and decay, but it will be raised to a life that cannot be destroyed.
43 When the body is “planted,” it is without honor. But when it is raised, it will be great and glorious. When the body is “planted,” it is weak. But when it is raised, it will be full of power.
44 The body that is “planted” is a physical body. When it is raised, it will be a spiritual body.There is a physical body. So there is also a spiritual body.
45 As the Scriptures say, “The first man, Adam, became a living person." But the last Adam is a life-giving spirit.
46 The spiritual man did not come first. It was the physical man that came first; then came the spiritual.
47 The first man came from the dust of the earth. The second man came from heaven.
48 All people belong to the earth. They are like that first man of earth. But those who belong to heaven are like that man of heaven.
49 We were made like that man of earth, so we will also be made like that man of heaven. - 1 Corinthians 15 vs 35 - 49

According to Paul, the physical body dies when it is planted, and a spiritual body emerges when the dead physical body is then raised. One thing to note is that Paul never actually states that the Spiritual body does not have flesh and blood associated with it. Surely, when you plant corn seeds, you expect that corn seeds will also be realized as a part of that which is planted, right?

In verse 45, Paul states that the first Adam came from dust and the earth, but the last Adam is a life-giving Spirit. When Jesus Christ arrived from Heaven, He was clothed in flesh and blood— a man—, even as the life-giving spirit. So, here we have Paul in fact insisting that even the one clothed in the Spirit remains a man — flesh, and blood. And this corroborates Jesus Christ's statements and actions from after He was raised from the dead .

36 While the two men were saying these things to the other followers, Jesus himself came and stood among them. He said to them, “Peace be with you.”
37 This surprised the followers. They were afraid. They thought they were seeing a ghost.
38 But Jesus said, “Why are you troubled? Why do you doubt what you see?
39 Look at my hands and my feet. It’s really me. Touch me. You can see that I have a living body; a ghost does not have a body like this.”
40 After Jesus told them this, he showed them his hands and his feet.
41 The followers were amazed and very, very happy to see that Jesus was alive. They still could not believe what they saw. He said to them, “Do you have any food here?”
42 They gave him a piece of cooked fish.
43 While the followers watched, he took the fish and ate it. - Luke 24 vs 36 - 43

Not only did Jesus Christ allow them to see that He remained flesh and blood even after the resurrection. He proved to them that He still came equipped with a human digestive system by eating fish right in front of them. The man from Heaven, even after His resurrection still had flesh and blood intact. This can only mean that the spiritual body — after resurrection— maintains a flesh and blood aspect to it, as was the case with Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Let's examine what Paul in fact says in his epistle.
According to Paul, the physical body dies when it is planted, and a spiritual body emerges when the dead physical body is then raised. One thing to note is that Paul never actually states that the Spiritual body does not have flesh and blood associated with it. Surely, when you plant corn seeds, you expect that corn seeds will also be realized as a part of that which is planted, right?

In verse 45, Paul states that the first Adam came from dust and the earth, but the last Adam is a life-giving Spirit. When Jesus Christ arrived from Heaven, He was clothed in flesh and blood— a man—, even as the life-giving spirit. So, here we have Paul in fact insisting that even the one clothed in the Spirit remains a man — flesh, and blood. And this corroborates Jesus Christ's statements and actions from after He was raised from the dead .
Not only did Jesus Christ allow them to see that He remained flesh and blood even after the resurrection. He proved to them that He still came equipped with a human digestive system by eating fish right in front of them. The man from Heaven, even after His resurrection still had flesh and blood intact.

So tailor this to 1 Corinthians 15:50

Michael548:

You said that Jesus is not lesser than the father isn't it?
But the bible says he is subject to the Father. So how come he is equal to the Father? Don't you believe that the Father is greater than Jesus?

Please read what I wrote so you can quote me correctly. Thank you