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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:36pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
benalvino3:I do accept peace, just not on the terms you propose, Ben. If Putin pulls out of Ukraine today and gives back what he's taken and then becomes peaceful, I would gladly be in support of the ensuing peace. What I don't support is the capitulation of Ukraine to Russia that you think is peace. benalvino3:The older person is not "slap you" in this case, Ben. The older person is slapping Ben and slapping Ben and slapping Ben is more like the case here! But let me try harder to explain it to you and see if you can understand. Imagine an older person is repeatedly abusing you. Would you, Ben, sue for peace because when you fight back that is when you are abused more? And would your suing for peace really stop you being abused more? Before you hit reply, consider abuse as not only physical abuse. Go as far as a rapist raping someone and tell me the raped should not fight back because the raped will be raped even more why don't you, or that a child being sexually abused should just accept the sexual abuse because fighting back, which may include reporting the sexual abuser to the relevant authorities, should not fight back because that child will be sexually abused more if it fights back! |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:36pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
IjeBos: dude, your father lives in Nigeria. lol 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:39pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
budaatum: You are right about the majority position vis a vis Brown v. Board. Found a "poll", that had it at 55-40 in support right after the decision. But that 49% of whites supported it. In researching that I wondered about the Dread Scott decision (basically a US Supreme court decision that said African Americans could never be US citizens) and found the justice who penned the decision still his bust prominently displayed in Congress up until 2022 when it was replaced with a bust of Thurgood Marshall. The US really really didn't give a sh*t about black people. Agree about the education, but that is all good until you have someone like a DeSantis decide what can and can't be thought. But, there is a real debate in terms of what type of system works best. Look at China. They have the ability to strategize and implement long term objectives(belt and road, energy, infrastructure.. etc etc.) because they have a dictator for life. While every 4 years a new US President comes in and rolls back what the previous one did while Congress is focused on platitudes trying to win the next election. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:41pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
budaatum: What terms did I propose? tell me. News breaks that China wants to broker a deal between Russia and Ukraine. Without knowing any details of the peace deal, the US said they wont be accepting any peace deal setup by China. Is the united state the country Russia invade? why will they be the ones to accept the peace deal? Lets watch and see. One or two equipment sent by the US won't be enough. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:47pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
benalvino3: Details of the China brokered peace deal can easily be read here Ben, so read it first please. Then tell me if you will accept a peace deal brokered by my friend who wines and dines with only me and not you after I have occupied your land and stolen your property from you! |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:57pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
budaatum: Dude, stop embarrassing yourself. if that link is what China propose as a peace deal then you must be a retardwarmonger to reject it. Go read what is on your own link what do you disagree with here: 1. Respecting the sovereignty of all countries. Universally recognized international law, including the purposes and principles of the United Nations Charter, must be strictly observed. The sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of all countries must be effectively upheld. All countries, big or small, strong or weak, rich or poor, are equal members of the international community. All parties should jointly uphold the basic norms governing international relations and defend international fairness and justice. Equal and uniform application of international law should be promoted, while double standards must be rejected. 2. Abandoning the Cold War mentality. The security of a country should not be pursued at the expense of others. The security of a region should not be achieved by strengthening or expanding military blocs. The legitimate security interests and concerns of all countries must be taken seriously and addressed properly. There is no simple solution to a complex issue. All parties should, following the vision of common, comprehensive, cooperative and sustainable security and bearing in mind the long-term peace and stability of the world, help forge a balanced, effective and sustainable European security architecture. All parties should oppose the pursuit of one’s own security at the cost of others’ security, prevent bloc confrontation, and work together for peace and stability on the Eurasian Continent. 3. Ceasing hostilities. Conflict and war benefit no one. All parties must stay rational and exercise restraint, avoid fanning the flames and aggravating tensions, and prevent the crisis from deteriorating further or even spiraling out of control. All parties should support Russia and Ukraine in working in the same direction and resuming direct dialogue as quickly as possible, so as to gradually deescalate the situation and ultimately reach a comprehensive ceasefire. 4. Resuming peace talks. Dialogue and negotiation are the only viable solution to the Ukraine crisis. All efforts conducive to the peaceful settlement of the crisis must be encouraged and supported. The international community should stay committed to the right approach of promoting talks for peace, help parties to the conflict open the door to a political settlement as soon as possible, and create conditions and platforms for the resumption of negotiation. China will continue to play a constructive role in this regard. 5. Resolving the humanitarian crisis. All measures conducive to easing the humanitarian crisis must be encouraged and supported. Humanitarian operations should follow the principles of neutrality and impartiality, and humanitarian issues should not be politicized. The safety of civilians must be effectively protected, and humanitarian corridors should be set up for the evacuation of civilians from conflict zones. Efforts are needed to increase humanitarian assistance to relevant areas, improve humanitarian conditions, and provide rapid, safe and unimpeded humanitarian access, with a view to preventing a humanitarian crisis on a larger scale. The UN should be supported in playing a coordinating role in channeling humanitarian aid to conflict zones. 6. Protecting civilians and prisoners of war (POWs). Parties to the conflict should strictly abide by international humanitarian law, avoid attacking civilians or civilian facilities, protect women, children and other victims of the conflict, and respect the basic rights of POWs. China supports the exchange of POWs between Russia and Ukraine, and calls on all parties to create more favorable conditions for this purpose. 7. Keeping nuclear power plants safe. China opposes armed attacks against nuclear power plants or other peaceful nuclear facilities, and calls on all parties to comply with international law including the Convention on Nuclear Safety (CNS) and resolutely avoid man-made nuclear accidents. China supports the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in playing a constructive role in promoting the safety and security of peaceful nuclear facilities. 8. Reducing strategic risks. Nuclear weapons must not be used and nuclear wars must not be fought. The threat or use of nuclear weapons should be opposed. Nuclear proliferation must be prevented and nuclear crisis avoided. China opposes the research, development and use of chemical and biological weapons by any country under any circumstances. 9. Facilitating grain exports. All parties need to implement the Black Sea Grain Initiative signed by Russia, Türkiye, Ukraine and the UN fully and effectively in a balanced manner, and support the UN in playing an important role in this regard. The cooperation initiative on global food security proposed by China provides a feasible solution to the global food crisis. 10. Stopping unilateral sanctions. Unilateral sanctions and maximum pressure cannot solve the issue; they only create new problems. China opposes unilateral sanctions unauthorized by the UN Security Council. Relevant countries should stop abusing unilateral sanctions and “long-arm jurisdiction” against other countries, so as to do their share in deescalating the Ukraine crisis and create conditions for developing countries to grow their economies and better the lives of their people. 11. Keeping industrial and supply chains stable. All parties should earnestly maintain the existing world economic system and oppose using the world economy as a tool or weapon for political purposes. Joint efforts are needed to mitigate the spillovers of the crisis and prevent it from disrupting international cooperation in energy, finance, food trade and transportation and undermining the global economic recovery. 12. Promoting post-conflict reconstruction. The international community needs to take measures to support post-conflict reconstruction in conflict zones. China stands ready to provide assistance and play a constructive role in this endeavor. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 8:03pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
LASTEST: Judge Engoron DENIES Donald Trump’s motion to delay the NYAG civil trial. “This is a complex case, but it’s not complicated.” Trial begins as scheduled: October 2nd 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:15pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
IjeBos:The US that fought a war to abolish slavery? I beg to differ. IjeBos:This is like saying, until a dump comes along and promotes dumpism. Desantis might get away with it for a while, but people will react when they see what Desantis decided and then decide to keep Desantis or dump Desantis' ass. That's what makes democracy so beautiful, you see. We the crazy demos get to reevaluate our decisions every 4 years and decide whether to keep them or dump them. That's what we did with dump. IjeBos: I agree with the long term benefits of continuation, but not that the role backs are as intense or as bad as you propose since some role backs are good. Still, if the people do not want roll backs, they can keep electing the same party and get continuity, so it's the people who decide in the end. And yes, "there is a real debate in terms of what type of system works best" as there rightly should be, but what is excluded from that debate is how each country got to where it currently is and why it has the system it has. UK has the system it has because that is the system it evolved into. Many don't know this, but England alone had many regional kings all reigning over their own little kingdoms until they were consolidated into the single monarchy we have today, which took a lot of wars and concessions and agreements to be negotiated and which has evolved into the parliamentary system we have today. USA was more like Greece with its once sovereign states which have evolved into the federalistic state system it now runs. China had an emperor who centrally ruled unopposed for millennia, and that has evolved into the emporistic CCP that rules from the centre today. The Chinese system would never be accepted in USA nor UK because neither has the DNA for it. In fact, the only countries that adopt anything close to what China has is called a despotic nation by those who don't share such systems. It's the sort that Nicolae Ceaușescu, Ivan the Terrible, Robespierre, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Pol Pot et al tried to impose but failed. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:19pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
benalvino3: No Ben, that is not what I disagree with. What I disagree with is a peace deal brokered by a broker who is cosy with one side as I stated but which you conveniently ignored. budaatum: 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:23pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
budaatum: Has America ever been pro-Russia? You will accept a peace deal brokered by a broker who is cozy with one side (US) you just change the goalpost. you did not read what you posted. Now you are saying it is about cozy. this is funny sha. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:33pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
benalvino3: First. China is not proposing a peace deal! What China is proposing is a cease fire, as you'd find if you read what I posted. Second. To broker, you have to broker with both sides, and not just cosy up to one side. Now tell, would Russia accept a USA sit down with Ukraine brokered deal, Ben? I know I would love it if my friend brokered a deal between us after I invade and annex your property Ben, but would you let my friend broker a cease fire between you and I after I invade and annex some of your property? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:40pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
budaatum: Compare what happened post Holocaust to what happened post slavery. Could you imagine finding Hitler's bust anywhere? budaatum: You're more hopeful than I. There was a recent poll that said Conservatives would want an autocratic government if it supported their views. I think Trump's election was a seismic shift in terms of how people view Democracy. budaatum: Yes, I was both siding it when I really meant the Biden roll backs were good. But still, the US I think is far behind things like basic infrastructure (Detroit - lead in the water, failing Bridges, etc.) let alone developing for the future. And that is a byproduct of having crazy Republican rule and hence no continuation of policies. I didn't even know Carter had put solar panels on the White-House and Reagan took them down. Imagine where the US would had been now if we had invested in Solar then. In terms of systems being accepted. I'm thinking more of the future as China becomes a bigger player and more people see the upsides of having a dictator vs. democracy. Already thanks to Trump Democracy is backsliding in countries like Mexico and Israel. In fact, as I said, I could see Republicans embracing it. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 8:42pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
budaatum: Holy shxt! Based Buda? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 8:57pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
For the first time ever, US credit card debt surpasses $1 trillion! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:00pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
IjeBos: I don't have to imagine. How a Hitler bust was found under French Senate Circumstances differ however, since the defeated USA states are still able to impose their own Hitler busts until we rise up and black lives matter them down. IjeBos:Of course they would, and so would I if the autocratic government supported my views. But as soon as the autocratic government stops supporting my views, watch my hypocritic ass start yelling for democracy, lol. IjeBos:Ah well, but sorry, that is the result of giving me choice. Sometimes I'm bound to make bad one's but I'd rather that than no choice at all I'm afraid, as I don't trust that others can always make the best choices for me. IjeBos:No system lasts for ever, Ijebos. Democracy in USA made USA the big and biggest player it was for decades, yet now you are claiming dictatorship in China is making China bigger. And it might for a while yet. But see what Twain said about the seeds of destruction. It's the same seed that is leading to the unbigness of USA and is bound to lead to Chinas, someday.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:00pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
CoolUsername: Meaning? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 9:03pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
iPhone market share in the US is 57.7%, which surpasses its global market share of 27%… https://www.demandsage.com/iphone-user-statistics/ |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:06pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
PDPGuy: Worst still, https://www.newyorkfed.org/newsevents/news/research/2023/20230216
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 11:16pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
budaatum: Seems like you have an iteresting take on the American Civil War. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:21am On Mar 22, 2023 |
CoolUsername: This person makes the argument not prosecuting Trump is treating him above the law. He argues prosecuting the crime of falsifying business records is common in NY. He adds cases to back up his point. Survey of Past New York Felony Prosecutions for Falsifying Business Records https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/survey-of-past-new-york-felony-prosecutions-for-falsifying-business-records/ 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 1:16am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Lock Criminal trump up! Lock him up! 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 1:18am On Mar 22, 2023 |
I remember when basilico loco use to disturb us with lock her up chants. Now he's the same hypocrite that's disturbing us criminal trumps indictment is political retribution. Just as brainless as this magat below. They always always own themselves. 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:38am On Mar 22, 2023 |
CoolUsername: Seems like you have a different take on the American Civil War than any I may have. But that's okay since you have different takes on just about anything discussed here. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:19am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Obrigardo: Hypocrisy is the GOP's strong suit. 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by uglymods: 4:20am On Mar 22, 2023 |
IjeBos: kikikikiki
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:18am On Mar 22, 2023 |
When I asked DeSantis to cite specific differences between him and Trump, he said: Well, I think there’s a few things. The approach to COVID was different. I would have fired somebody like Fauci. I think he got way too big for his britches, and I think he did a lot of damage. DeSantis also slammed Trump’s chaotic, self-obsessed, and divisive management style, saying: [quoteI also think just in terms of my approach to leadership, I get personnel in the Government who have the agenda of the people and share our agenda. You bring your own agenda in you’re gone. We’re just not gonna have that. So, the way we run the Government I think is no daily drama, focus on the big picture and put points on the board and I think that’s something that’s very important.[/quote] When pressed on Trump giving him silly nicknames, here’s what the Florida governor had to say. “I don’t know how to spell the sanctimonious one. I don’t really know what it means, but I kinda like it, it’s long, it’s got a lot of vowels. We’ll go with that, that’s fine. I mean you can call me whatever you want, just as long as you also call me a winner because that’s what we’ve been able to do in Florida, is put a lot of points on the board and really take this State to the next level.” Until now, DeSantis has never engaged with any of Trump’s regular attempts to provoke him and he doesn’t intend to make a habit of it. “To me, it’s just background noise,” he said. “It’s not important for me to be fighting with people on social media. It’s not accomplishing anything for the people I represent. So, we really just focus on knocking out victories, day after day, and if I got involved in all the under tow I would not be able to be an effective Governor. So, I don’t think it’s something that makes sense for me.” This has made trump influencers and cults meltdown. They are fine when he attacks DeSantis but surprised that DeSantis is responding now. I won't even call this an attack by DeSantis. He was just answering questions. Trump is still better than almost everything the Dems had to offer, but i think he is not the better candidate especially when DeSantis is on the podium 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 7:19am On Mar 22, 2023 |
IjeBos: The republiqan party is truly dead. So they are going to spend the next few months and into 2024 defending Criminal behavior with criminal trump and the insurrectionists while their budget stinks and their fight against the imaginary "Woke demon" has failed horribly, but their fascist dreams of book bans, child marriage and hideous censorship, coddling the billionaires and their love for Assault weapons that have killed and still kill our kids - is all in the National limelight. I think it was a wise political move to allow them take the house so we can all see how looney these guys truly are. How are they going to win back the 7 million votes they lost in 2020? They are dead, it's the official burial we are waiting for. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 7:23am On Mar 22, 2023 |
benalvino3: You wrote criminal trump is greater than what? I can't seem to quote that highshit putrid comment of yours. Oh, I see, you are now in the irritant phase like you just want to make the more enlightened people irritated and annoyed with your drivel. You are incorrigible man, stupid to the core. I mean it, it's not a joke. Na wa ooo But if you were just posting it from somewhere as a source and it's not your own thinking then sorry. But if you actually meant it then woe on you. I guess criminal trump didn't use Covid to kill any of your loved ones. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:51am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Survey of Past New York Felony Prosecutions for Falsifying Business RecordsBy Siven Watt, Norman L. Eisen, Ryan GoodmanJust Security A core crime that the Manhattan District Attorney will likely include in an indictment of formerPresident Donald Trump is “falsifying business records in the first degree,” a felony under NewYork State law (N.Y. Penal Code § 175.10). Prosecutors and indeed all of us are compelled bythe rule of law to consider how such a charge compares to past prosecutions. Are like cases being treated alike?Here it appears they are. Prosecution of falsifying business records in the first degree iscommonplace and has been used by New York district attorneys’ offices to hold to account a breadth of criminal behavior from the more petty and simple to the more serious and highlyorganized. We reach this conclusion after surveying the past decade and a half of criminal casesacross all the New York district attorneys’ offices.The Table below provides full details of many examples of cases we identified in the survey.A sample of representative precedents includes: ● The People of the State of New York v. Josue Aguilar Dubon, AKA Saady Dubon,AKA Alejandro Ortiz (October 2022) — Bronx business owner indicted for failing toreport over $1 million in income, avoiding paying $60,000 in taxes. ● The People of the State of New York v. Scott Kirtland (February 2022) — Insurance broker indicted for allegedly creating/filing fraudulent certificates of liability insuranceto further scheme to defraud. ● The People of the State of New York v. James Garner (November 2021) — Mentalhealth therapy aide indicted for allegedly defrauding over $35,000 in workers’compensation benefits .● The People of the State of New York v. Jose Palmer (November 2016) — Pleadedguilty to petit larceny for unemployment benefits fraud of over $3,000, having initially been indicted for grand larceny and falsifying business records in the first degree. ● The People of the State of New York v. Jason Holley (November 2016) — Convicted by jury of falsifying business records in the first degree but acquitted of the predicatecrime, insurance fraud. ● The People of the State of New York v. Christina Murray (May 2015) & People v.Terrel Murray (May 2014) —Married couple convicted of house fire insurance claim, attempting to recover the cash value of various items of property that were ostensibly lost in the fire. In all the cases above the intent was to defraud. Did Trump falsify business records? Cohen incorporated an LLC that paid off Stormy Daniels days before election ensuring her claims never went public then. I would expect the DA to investigate whether Stormy really g.had an affair with Trump in the first case. What if she was lying helped by the sleazy Michael Avenatti currently sitting in jail? Cohen LLC was reimbursed by the Trump org as Legal Services, Cohen was put on a 35k monthly retainer for 12 months. I do not see any fraud here like the above cases. The DA wanted Trump org to say the payments were to Stormy Daniels? We can argue whether the payments were to aid the campaign or to protect the Trump brand. Trump as the owner has the discretion to use his company cash as he deems, He can rent a cruise ship if he wishes as this improves his brand.He can sponsor a space ride via SpaceX for his buddies. America has fallen so low they have to look for anything to prevent Trump from running. The IRS was not defrauded and the payments helped the Org My opinion is that the Deep State is after an indictment, a mug shot, perp walk in cuffs and a court appearance. The case will be thrown out eventually but the media will have had it's day. Add the other two cases Georgia and Special Counsel indictment and Trump looks like a criminal . Meanwhile the AG is back in court n wants Trump to never do business in NYC because he told banks his business was worth more to secure better loans, which he repaid/repaying on top of paying 250m in fines to nobody who is complaining. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:03am On Mar 22, 2023 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:06am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Hey basilico loco, we got some "drag queens" pedo roundup coming your way when I got time. And it seems Corcoran has flingged criminal trump under the bus. Jack Smith has found out criminal trump misled Corcoran about the classified documents he stole. Mind you, criminal trumps lawyer just rolled over him. So be careful with your poorly worded defense of the criminal. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:09am On Mar 22, 2023 |
budaatum: Oh damn! So sweet I'll be making my own exclusive images for us to enjoy soon when I'm done with all this mess here. I just need some descriptive prompts. If you have any ideas or prompts please share with me. We gonna have fun with AI, I promise. 1 Like 1 Share |
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