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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:15am On Mar 23, 2023
basilico:


All those paedos you posting. Sure they are pastors. Are all pastors GOP or are you implying democrats gave up on the Almighty.

As for this case , the judges are right to interpret the law as they seem fit. No more words but clearly he is partisan.

This is your problem. You see a crime, but you can't denounce it but instead your brain reverts to whataboutism.

Man, that sucks. You really have bad bad bad judgement.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:23am On Mar 23, 2023
Obrigardo:


This is your problem. You see a crime, but you can't denounce it but instead your brain reverts to whataboutism.

Man, that sucks. You really have bad bad bad judgement.

Call out both sides and we can have a Tete a Tete one day.
Media is so biased , it's worked on your reasoning.
To say the least Trump is the most investigated living individual. Always searching for a crime else looking for any negative thing about him Which he feeds them every other day, they are never short of anything to slander him

Paedos are scum of the earth. Be they anyone, I'll denounce and curse them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:01pm On Mar 23, 2023
basilico:
Keep singing Drunph while the globalists are out to ensure they have total control.
With this digital currency whatever you indulge in financially will be tracked by govt bodies. They can freeze you when you go against the grain.

In other news
Biden weakening the US dollar.
Russia to use Yuan to settle trade with Asia, Africa and Latin America.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1638349879171792896

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 3:30pm On Mar 23, 2023
basilico:


In other news
Biden weakening the US dollar.
Russia to use Yuan to settle trade with Asia, Africa and Latin America.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1638349879171792896
Lol the Government, the IRS specifically already has access to the financial records of American's.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 3:32pm On Mar 23, 2023
Of course he would

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:40pm On Mar 23, 2023
DeusXmachina:
Of course he would

There is nothing like don't say gay law.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:45pm On Mar 23, 2023
benalvino3:


There is nothing like don't say gay law.

Reminds me of your "Maths is racist", lol.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:59pm On Mar 23, 2023
budaatum:


Reminds me of your "Maths is racist", lol.

And you project your arguments on me
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:04pm On Mar 23, 2023
benalvino3:


And you project your arguments on me

It's not an argument, Ben. Just an observation.

By the way, your strategy of running away as you did in our last conversation was the second time I noticed you run away.

Just saying so you know I notice.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:12pm On Mar 23, 2023
budaatum:


It's not an argument, Ben. Just an observation.

By the way, your strategy of running away as you did in our last conversation was the second time I noticed you run away.

Just saying so you know I notice.

I ran away or I left you alone since you can't even read your own source? What's the point when you cite something that refutes your own arguments and you are not aware of it?

If you are serious, you would understand that cease fire comes before peace.

It was not a peace deal it was a cease fire. You were not making sense all through and you are always like if I beat you and this and that like it is how the situation is in Ukraine.

If America cannot help Ukraine defeat Russia but help them stay in the war for eternity, then there is no point fighting. Ukraine will be a desert.

This is something you refuse to understand. Russia can retreat to their country, wait and recover, then come back. The cycle continues.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:38pm On Mar 23, 2023
benalvino3:

I ran away or I left you alone since you can't even read your own source? What's the point when you cite something that refutes your own arguments and you are not aware of it?
Why would I not read my own source, Ben?

benalvino3:
If you are serious, you would understand that cease fire comes before peace.
"Comes before" does not make them the same thing, or does it?

benalvino3:
It was not a peace deal it was a cease fire.
Glad you finally learnt the difference.

benalvino3:
You were not making sense all through and you are always like if I beat you and this and that like it is how the situation is in Ukraine.
Be responsible and admit you don't understand instead of claiming I'm not making sense!

benalvino3:
If America cannot help Ukraine defeat Russia but help them stay in the war for eternity, then there is no point fighting. Ukraine will be a desert.
I'm just so glad this your appeasement reasoning was not what prevailed when Germany was waging war against Europe or Europe wouldn't have become the European Community but the Weimar Republic of Facist Germany!

Instead, "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old", as Churchill said.

benalvino3:
This is something you refuse to understand. Russia can retreat to their country, wait and recover, then come back. The cycle continues.
That is exactly what Russia will do if there is a ceasefire, except they wouldn't have to retreat to their country, which is what a proper peace deal would require, and that's why we must not let them "wait and recover" in Ukraine as the terms of China's ceasefire demand.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:03pm On Mar 23, 2023
budaatum:

Why would I not read my own source, Ben?


"Comes before" does not make them the same thing, or does it?


Glad you finally learnt the difference.


Be responsible and admit you don't understand instead of claiming I'm not making sense!


I'm just so glad this your appeasement reasoning was not what prevailed when Germany was waging war against Europe or Europe wouldn't have become the European Community but the Weimar Republic of Facist Germany!

Instead, "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old", as Churchill said.


That is exactly what Russia will do if there is a ceasefire, except they wouldn't have to retreat to their country, which is what a proper peace deal would require, and that's why we must not let them "wait and recover" in Ukraine as the terms of China's ceasefire demand.

Xi Jinping. This was carefully crafted to be heard by media.

"change is coming that hasn’t happened in 100 years, "


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMSv-jALIAM&t=13s&pp=2AENkAIB
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 6:05pm On Mar 23, 2023
Obrigardo:


The first is so funny damn grin

Let me see if I can make one like that lol

You actually made the ones you posted?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 6:12pm On Mar 23, 2023
benalvino3:


There is nothing like don't say gay law.
Are arguing that "Florida's HB 1557" law doesn't exist,
Or that the moniker is an inaccurate descriptor?

And what is your opinion on the fact that this bill was pushed on the grounds that kindergarteners to 3rd graders were too young to learn about lgbt issues.
But Desantis is now trying to expand it to all grades including highschool?

Was it really about protecting the kids, or an ideological opposition to the teaching about and acceptance of the lgbt minority group.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 6:13pm On Mar 23, 2023
Trump is going to finish Desantis before Desantis even starts.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:21pm On Mar 23, 2023
DeusXmachina:

Are arguing that "Florida's HB 1557" law doesn't exist,
Or that the moniker is an inaccurate descriptor?

And what is your opinion on the fact that this bill was pushed on the grounds that kindergarteners to 3rd graders were too young to learn about lgbt issues.
But Desantis is know trying to expand it to all grades including highschool?

Was it really about protecting the kids, or an ideological opposition to the teaching about and acceptance of the lgbt minority group.

That is not the "Don't say gay" Law. if you lie with the name, you will lie about the content of the law.
Raumdeuter already made this clear that you folks shouting about the law do not know the contents of the law.

Suppose he expands it to high school fine. Children should not be groomed. Parents don't want teachers with pink hair telling their kids crap.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 6:25pm On Mar 23, 2023
benalvino3:


That is not the "Don't say gay" Law. if you lie with the name, you will lie about the content of the law.
Raumdeuter already made this clear that you folks shouting about the law do not know the contents of the law.

So your issue is that the critics have dubbed it the "don't say gay" law

If he expands it to high school fine. Children should not be groomed. Parents don't want teachers with pink hear telling their kids crap.
Could you define grooming for me?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:25pm On Mar 23, 2023
DeusXmachina:

Are arguing that "Florida's HB 1557" law doesn't exist,
Or that the moniker is an inaccurate descriptor?

And what is your opinion on the fact that this bill was pushed on the grounds that kindergarteners to 3rd graders were too young to learn about lgbt issues.
But Desantis is now trying to expand it to all grades including highschool?

Was it really about protecting the kids, or an ideological opposition to the teaching about and acceptance of the lgbt minority group.

The Law says you should not teach issues of Sexuality to children under 9 without Parental consent

The Law is called Parental right in Education Law

let me know if you have a concern with Parents consent being sought in what they teach their kids especially in issues of Sexuality

Why would any adult insist on teaching your children about sexuality without your approval

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=76545
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:44pm On Mar 23, 2023
budaatum:

Why would I not read my own source, Ben?

you didn't read your own source.

budaatum:

"Comes before" does not make them the same thing, or does it?

In order to have peace, there most be cease fire. this is common sense. you cannot have peace when fighting is still going on. this is why i left the discussion.

budaatum:

Glad you finally learnt the difference.

it is you who does not understand words and terminology. at least, check the definition of a ceasefire

ceasefire
uk/ˈsiːs.faɪər/ us/ˈsiːs.faɪr/
NOUN [ C USUALLY SINGULAR ]
an agreement, usually between two armies, to stop fighting in order to allow discussions about peace

budaatum:

Be responsible and admit you don't understand instead of claiming I'm not making sense!
Projection. You are the one who does not understand even the source you present, you have no understanding about it.

budaatum:
I'm just so glad this your appeasement reasoning was not what prevailed when Germany was waging war against Europe or Europe wouldn't have become the European Community but the Weimar Republic of Facist Germany!
You have no understanding on what happened in the past and how to tie it to Ukraine.

Britain entered World War I in 1914 when the King declared war after the expiration of an ultimatum to the German Empire. Britain demand that Germany withdraw its troops from Belgium and France within twelve hours. When Germany refused to withdraw its troops, Britain declared war on Germany.

The US invaded Iraq in 1991 as part of a coalition force led by the United States against Iraq in response to Iraq’s invasion and annexation of Kuwait arising from oil pricing and production disputes. The Gulf War was fought to liberate Kuwait and protect Saudi Arabia from a possible Iraqi invasion

Britain entered World War Two because Germany invaded Poland. When Hitler invaded Poland, he was confident that Britain and France would continue their policy of appeasement and broker a peace deal. However, Britain declared war on Germany when it failed to withdraw its troops from Poland immediately.

You see these are decisive patterns. if they really want to stop the war, they should do more not send epileptic supply of weapons and drag the war for eternity.

budaatum:

That is exactly what Russia will do if there is a ceasefire, except they wouldn't have to retreat to their country, which is what a proper peace deal would require, and that's why we must not let them "wait and recover" in Ukraine as the terms of China's ceasefire demand.

Hmm, is not like ukraine is on the offensive. Like i said before, Russia can just hold a position outside Ukraine and attack again anytime they feel like it. So the above quote does not make sense.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 6:45pm On Mar 23, 2023
IjeBos:


You actually made the ones you posted?

Oh yes I did
I've been crazy dipped in AI for some days now and it came in handy coz I worked in the product design department of one lifestyle company. So it was like Photoshop to me.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:46pm On Mar 23, 2023
DeusXmachina:


So your issue is that the critics have dubbed it the "don't say gay" law

Could you define grooming for me?

No... my issue is the critics are lying. there is no law like don't say Gay and there is nothing about the bill that is don't say gay.

Grooming is when a person engages in predatory conduct to prepare a child or young person for sexual activity at a later time. Grooming can include communicating and/or attempting to befriend or establish a relationship or other emotional connection with the child or their parent/carer. It can be sexual, romantic, financial or for criminal or terrorism purposes, and can target both children and adults

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 6:49pm On Mar 23, 2023
basilico:


Call out both sides and we can have a Tete a Tete one day.
Media is so biased , it's worked on your reasoning.
To say the least Trump is the most investigated living individual. Always searching for a crime else looking for any negative thing about him Which he feeds them every other day, they are never short of anything to slander him

Paedos are scum of the earth. Be they anyone, I'll denounce and curse them.

But why do you turn it to an attack on my person when I post about these pedos? So I should not post them again because they are Church goers and mostly republiqan voters?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 6:53pm On Mar 23, 2023
I think I know it now. Criminal trump fūcks his bimbo looking lawyers. Because why do they all resemble Ivanka and quite hot?

This is Jennifer little, the one Jack Smith is about to huddle before the Class.docs grand jury. Look at those heavy D's.

Remember criminal trump said he would have fūcked Ivanka if she weren't his daughter. Yuck.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:02pm On Mar 23, 2023
benalvino3:

you didn't read your own source.
You keep believing that. But perhaps ask why I'd read what you write if I can't be bothered to read my own source which I presented for you to read after you admitted you weren't even aware existed.

benalvino3:

In order to have peace, there most be cease fire. this is common sense. you cannot have peace when fighting is still going on. this is why i left the discussion.
So, you basically ceased fire so there can be peace? Can't argue with that I guess, so long as I get to "hold a position inside your property" that I've already taken from you.

But I hope you notice how, despite your ceasefire, here I am behaving like Russia, slapping you and slapping you and slapping you all over again despite your cease fire.

benalvino3:
Hmm, is not like ukraine is on the offensive. Like i said before, Russia can just hold a position outside Ukraine and attack again anytime they feel like it. So the above quote does not make sense.
Ben, Ukraine is on the defensive. They are not on the offensive like Russia is!

Now,if Russia ceases fire and "hold a position outside Ukraine", there would be no reason for Ukraine not to cease fire, which is what I have been arguing for all along, as opposed to Russia ceasing fire inside Ukraine as China and you are proposing!

And if and when Russia "attack again anytime they feel like", we would surely both be here condemning Russia for breaking the terms of the cease fire. No?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:21pm On Mar 23, 2023
budaatum:

You keep believing that. But perhaps ask why I'd read what you write if I can't be bothered to read my own source which I presented for you to read after you admitted you weren't even aware existed.

Go back to this point https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-joe-bidens/3712#121953932 Read your response to me and understand why it is obvious you never read your own source.

budaatum:

So, you basically ceased fire so there can be peace? Can't argue with that I guess, so long as I get to "hold a position inside your property" that I've already taken from you.
You cant be fighting and have peace at the same time. when the cease-fire happens, a talk and paper signing will take place. The land or asset may be returned as a result. I don't know how you think some times. But If i go by your childish Analogy, There is a reason a bully in school eats the lunch of other students. Because if they fight, they might lose more than their lunch. I am saying the US is not doing enough to help Ukraine win. this can remain a stalemate but Russia will remain intact while Ukraine turn to Desert.

budaatum:

But I hope you notice how, despite your ceasefire, here I am behaving like Russia, slapping you and slapping you and slapping you all over again despite your cease fire.

This one is coming out of your Behind. Makes no sense.


budaatum:
Ben, Ukraine is on the defensive. They are not on the offensive like Russia is!
When Japan attacked the US, if the US was on the defensive, another attack would have happened anytime Japan feels like it. The US crossed the 7 seas to invade Japan and with their Goodwill, they handed over Japan back. before that, a cease-fire happened because of Nukes then the papers were signed(peace)

Japan gave the whole country to the US and they stopped fighting so they can live in peace. Now Ukraine is not in the same boat. they can fight, but the US begged for a cease-fire and surrender before the nukes were used. why were the nukes used? The US was losing men and they need to do something.

budaatum:

Now,if Russia ceases fire and "hold a position outside Ukraine", there would be no reason for Ukraine not to cease fire, which is what I have been arguing for all along, as opposed to Russia ceasing fire inside Ukraine as China and you are proposing!

And if and when Russia "attack again anytime they feel like", we would surely both be here condemning Russia for breaking the terms of the cease fire. No?

Ukraine Can send bombs to Russia, But why are they not doing so? Because if they do, then Russia will have excuse to level everywhere. I don't know why you don't get this. If Russia Retreat why will Ukraine not go on the Offensive knowing that the Retreat is to regroup and come back again?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 7:23pm On Mar 23, 2023
IjeBos:
These were great.

Been trying to get the first image but seems my prompts not working well. But did make these ones lol grin

Used two types of aspect ratio 16 by 9 and 2 by 3.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 7:25pm On Mar 23, 2023
grin

Manifesting this

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 7:51pm On Mar 23, 2023
I think criminal trump is the greatest American scammer ever

Basilico we are on the same page here right?

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:13pm On Mar 23, 2023
basilico loco, see what your overlord posted on his failing platform. This is what you worship. Shame on you.
This criminal must be denied bail. He's done enough.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 8:13pm On Mar 23, 2023
raumdeuter:


The Law says you should not teach issues of Sexuality to children under 9 without Parental consent

The Law is called Parental right in Education Law

let me know if you have a concern with Parents consent being sought in what they teach their kids especially in issues of Sexuality

Why would any adult insist on teaching your children about sexuality without your approval

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=76545

The law
"3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

The criticism
The part of the law on sexual orientation and gender identity is too vaguely worded.
Like what is "age appropriate/developmentally appropriate"? Are judgments going to be passed purely on vibes here?
If a teacher says this sentence in a class is it a violation of the law?
-"Most families have a Mom and Dad, but some have two moms, others have two dads"
-"It is ok to like boys, girls or both,"

This law would broadly allow for parents which have issues with the acknowledgement of the existence of lgbtq people to sue schools, if they feel there is a violation here.
This logically results in schools having a reason to aggressively silence students, teachers and school personal on this the topic.

Hence the "don't say gay" name.


And with regards to the bolded.
Should we have the consent of flat earth parents before teaching students the shape of the planet?

Keep in mind I was criticizing the expansion of the law to all grades, and the ideological motive behind that.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DeusXmachina: 8:20pm On Mar 23, 2023
benalvino3:


No... my issue is the critics are lying. there is no law like don't say Gay and there is nothing about the bill that is don't say gay.

See my reply to raumduter.

Ok, now that we have a definition of grooming, can you tell how teaching about lgbtq issues, identity and sexuality falls under that definition.

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