[quote author=jimyjames post=122008318][/quote] The screenshot doesn't corroborate any of your fabricated narratives.

absoluteSuccess:
After the June 12 annulment and the Epetedo declaration, people who were old enough at that time will recall that the Igbo began to leave Lagos in droves, some getting involved in accident due to the traffic down east, yet its not Christmas when we do have Igbo movement homewards.

What was said then was that the Igbo were going for new yam festival. I was a secondary school student at the time, the country was so hard that there was no paper currency in circulation and people were spending coins. there was no day without rioting and protest, with heroes of democracy fighting Abacha. Tinubu was one such.

Our brothers were leaving us at this crucial time because, June 12 is Yoruba and Hausa show. at that point in time, Lagos was not "no man's land", it was part and parcel of Yorubaland and its not worth the empathy of the Ndigbo who must move homeward, because well, its very clear that its a matter of time before another civil war break out.

What does the Igbo movement portend? its a calculative expectation, a wrong signal that says it is left for the Yoruba to face the Hausa and they already have a battlefield big enough for the show. Who knows why Abacha was stockpiling money offshore in every country you can think of? At the end, the Yoruba endure and lost their own, MKO.

The recent event of the gubernatorial election simply implies that if the Yoruba were in the position of the Igbos in Lagos, the Igbos will do exactly the same thing Yoruba thugs did. None of the people do stand in the gap for the other as history have shown, as Abiola equally won a landslide election across naija but who campaign for the annulment?

It might be very fresh what the Yoruba thug did, but it is not just started of recent.

Association for better Nigeria, over to you.

It's the highest form of wickedness if you deliberately EXCLUDE" Professor Humphrey Nwosu,who DEFIED the order of president Ibrahim Babangida & announced the June 12 results.

Go & read the role Professor Humphrey Nwosu played at that June 12 saga.

VOICEofORIENTAL:

It's the highest form of wickedness if you deliberately EXCLUDE" Professor Humphrey Nwosu,who DEFIED the order of president Ibrahim Babangida & announced the June 12 results.

Go & read the role Professor Humphrey Nwosu played at that June 12 saga.

That's true. one of the heroes of democracy, thank God for a good name like that, it stuck out. We were told that the great man continued announcing the election result after the military government has declared the election null and void, the brave man continued and the soldiers stopped him with dirty slap eventually.

Another thing was he started announcing from the north, such that magomago will not crop up.

One other hero of the nascent democracy we are enjoying today is Frank ovie kokori, we were told back then as kid that he padlocked the Nigerian refinery and threw away the key inside the lagoon. Some sweet nothing we were fed as kids back then by pro democracy activists.

To the glory of God, Humphrey Nwosu was able to accomplish the counting he started in 1993 many years after.

Igbo must go!! Just pray make tinubu die? Nah then una go knw film

muyico:
Igbo must go!! Just pray make tinubu die? Nah then una go knw film

Pray pray pray, at the end of the day its another Nigerian that will replace him.

jimyjames:


What happened in 1966 was not a civil war , civil war started in 1967 , the genocide against Igbo civilians happened all over Nigeria including south west 1966, in south west when the northern soldiers were going from one neighborhood to another killing Igbos the Yoruba's helped them in pointing out who were Igbos and who was not , even on roadblock , and they rejoiced over it , just like they are rejoicing now after what happened in Lagos during election

Lies from hell.

Putindbutt:

The screenshot doesn't corroborate any of your fabricated narratives.

Then understanding English is your problem , you didn't read were cheering northerners looted the hausa of almadu Bello after he was killed , and the support he got from the north?

jimyjames:


Where were yoluba's in 1966 when Igbos were hunted down and killed all over Nigeria including yoruba land , 100 of thousands of Igbos were killed all over including yoruba land , The yoluba's were even helping northerners to hunt and kill Igbos in their region , and after that Yoruba's still matched with the northerners to south east to finish Igbos up , awolowo was one of the hero's of that war for what he did to Igbos

Oga you are just being clever by half, the civil war was between biafra vs Nigeria army ... the battle ground was the East
The civilians whether yoruba or hausa play no part in it, Igbos don't have the numbers so igbo civilians were also recruited to carry guns.
IGBos were fighting for a selfish course i.e secession at that time you can't compare that to june 12 annullment yorubas fought for in 1993 becos every nigerian would have enjoyed a democratic administration unlike the military rule.

Awolowo did not betray the IGbos, on the contrary it was Igbos that betray Awolowo to support shagari NPN, and it's still transient to date. the East prefer to play the opposition to the west at every chance they get.
History is there for anyone to verify let nobody misinform the public

jimyjames:

Then understanding English is your problem , you didn't read were cheering northerners looted the hausa of almadu Bello after he was killed , and the support he got from the north?

brother if any part of this book spoke about Yoruba pointing the Igbos, it would sell 3,000,000 copies and it would be everywhere. Every Igbo man will carry it as a bible. If in all the repeated post you have posted you haven't gotten to the page you talk about, I would want to believe its your thought that the writer forgot to include in his work.

Then what book is this and when was it written? the date matters a lot as well as the author.

theredaddy:



Oga you are just being clever by half, the civil war was between biafra vs Nigeria army ... the battle ground was the East
The civilians whether yoruba or hausa play no part in it, Igbos don't have the numbers so igbo civilians were also recruited to carry guns.
IGBos were fighting for a selfish course i.e secession at that time you can't compare that to june 12 annullment yorubas fought for in 1993 becos every nigerian would have enjoyed a democratic administration unlike the military rule.

Awolowo did not betray the IGbos, on the contrary it was Igbos that betray Awolowo to support shagari NPN, and it's still transient to date. the East prefer to play the opposition to the west at every chance they get.
History is there for anyone to verify let nobody misinform the public

Lol the civilians whether hausa or Yoruba played no part in it ? Nigeria had only about 6 thousand troops when the war started , Nigerian troops grew to 200 thousand and more during the the war , where did the numbers come from? Civilians , most of them were hurriedly trained and recruited within one week

Igbos were fighting for a selfish course? 30 thousand are more Igbos and easterners were killed and chased away from other part of Nigeria back to east , and the easterners felt they were no longer wanted in Nigeria it's better to create their own country, Nigerians from those places where they killed and chased out Igbos and other easterners, united and matched down to east wage a war of people the sent away , and you call that selfishness on the part of Biafrans?

Awolowo was the right hand man of gowon during the civil war , we know the evil part he played in the war

absoluteSuccess:


brother if any part of this book spoke about Yoruba pointing the Igbos, it would sell 3,000,000 copies and it would be everywhere. Every Igbo man will carry it as a bible. If in all the repeated post you have posted you haven't gotten to the page you talk about, I would want to believe its your thought that the writer forgot to include in his work.

Then what book is this and when was it written? the date matters a lot as well as the author.

It did pointed Yoruba's mocking Igbos in Lagos

jimyjames:


Where were yoluba's in 1966 when Igbos were hunted down and killed all over Nigeria including yoruba land , 100 of thousands of Igbos were killed all over including yoruba land , The yoluba's were even helping northerners to hunt and kill Igbos in their region , and after that Yoruba's still matched with the northerners to south east to finish Igbos up , awolowo was one of the hero's of that war for what he did to Igbos

we are proud of doing that and we still going to do it again if matter arises. This time it’s total wipe out

Ayodeoba:
we are proud of doing that and we still going to do it again if matter arises. This time it’s total wipe out

2023 is not 1967

jimyjames:

It did pointed Yoruba's mocking Igbos in Lagos

Is this "There was a country"? If yes, what would you make of a claim like this compared to where you claim Yoruba were pointing you to executioner above, at what point did that claim disappeared?

Again, were you sticking out for the union or up in arms against concerted effort to make you stay? For the Yoruba to resort to this level, it means they loved you, they want you to see reason but you are bent on having things your way and you choose to be exposed to victim-ism. Now compare this to the scenario of Rwanda.

The Yoruba were not molesting you, but at this very point they can't hold you back against your wish, they resort to the only thing a friend will do against an unrepentant friend - chutzpah. But again, it translates to "hurting the Igbo". They did not do as much as raising their hand against you in time of (self-orchestrated) trouble.

In the above, it is love. You gamble for the outcome but it didn't work. If it were to be hate bro, blood will flow instead. Now how do we confirm this is love? When the Igbos came back, they met their stuffs back where they left them, the Yoruba handed over their properties back to them, but that was not mentioned.

So, can you see the implication of this?

jimyjames:

Lol the civilians whether hausa or Yoruba played no part in it ? Nigeria had only about 6 thousand troops when the war started , Nigerian troops grew to 200 thousand and more during the the war , where did the numbers come from? Civilians , most of them were hurriedly trained and recruited within one week

Igbos were fighting for a selfish course? 30 thousand are more Igbos and easterners were killed and chased away from other part of Nigeria back to east , and the easterners felt they were no longer wanted in Nigeria it's better to create their own country, Nigerians from those places where they killed and chased out Igbos and other easterners, united and matched down to east wage a war of people the sent away , and you call that selfishness on the part of Biafrans?

Awolowo was the right hand man of gowon during the civil war , we know the evil part he played in the war

Despite living in a jet age, Nigeria still don't have accurate population data how much more 1979, Oga if you want to lie not here,
In January 1966, some senior Nigerian army officers, mostly of the Igbo ethnic group, assassinated key politicians [/b]during a coup in the West African state.

Those killed included Ahmadu Bello, a revered leader in the north. tell me was that not for selfish reasons.
[b]
This led to months of massacres against the Igbo living in the north.[/b]Tens of thousands were killed while about a million fled to what was then known as the Eastern Region.
These events sparked the decision to secede, spearheaded by Ojukwu, who was then the military governor of the Eastern Region

Christopher ejike recap: The Nigerians who were pursuing us were trained soldiers. We were not. We were drafted into the war, given two days' training.
So many IGBO folks hid the truth and fed there children lies, an igbo child is sire to resent Nigeria, [b]nobody is telling them the 1st coup in Nigeria history 1966 was "IGBO COUP" by young officiers of the Igbo in the military BUT IGbos turn around and cry Victim
Awolowo owe OJukwu no alliegance, altho the arrangement was awolowo will declared SW republican after Ojukwu declared Biafra .. but Awolowo back down becos he was reasonable to know that is like leading his people to Slaughter, Awolowo himself knows he has no para military training unlike Ojukwu so how will he defend yorubas when ojukwu is busy defending igbos.
That is not betrayal, and we yoruba are grateful Awolowo applied wisdom, if SW have join the civil war, where will igbos have as alternative to run to today.

OGa i won't let you misinform the public some of us know history, this is not to tarnish the Igbos but we must tell ourselves the Truth.

absoluteSuccess:


Is this "There was a country"? If yes, what would you make of a claim like this compared to where you claim Yoruba were pointing you to executioner above, at what point did that claim disappeared?

Again, were you sticking out for the union or up in arms against concerted effort to make you stay? For the Yoruba to resort to this level, it means they loved you, they want you to see reason but you are bent on having things your way and you choose to be exposed to victim-ism. Now compare this to the scenario of Rwanda.

The Yoruba were not molesting you, but at this very point they can't hold you back against your wish, they resort to the only thing a friend will do against an unrepentant friend - chutzpah. But again, it translates to "hurting the Igbo". They did not do as much as raising their hand against you in time of (self-orchestrated) trouble.

In the above, it is love. You gamble for the outcome but it didn't work. If it were to be hate bro, blood will flow instead. Now how do we confirm this is love? When the Igbos came back, they met their stuffs back where they left them, the Yoruba handed over their properties back to them, but that was not mentioned.

So, can you see the implication of this?

I got ban on my other account


Look don't tell me anything about Yoruba love , there were accounts of Yoruba's pointing out to Igbos especially in cases where northerners could not tell who was igbo or Yoruba , I have read multiple accounts of the 1966-1967 biafra war I can't remember exactly in which book I read that and I no longer have the books

Sticking out for which union when Yoruba's were happy about what was happening to us ?


You all talk about Rwanda but the number of Igbos and easterners that were killed is higher than what happened in Rwanda , Benjamin adekunle confessed himself when he led 40 thousands foot soldiers into biafra he ordered his men to shoot an kill anything that moves in igboland, men women children, young old etc anything that moves , that was a personal hate for the Igbos not , a fight for one Nigeria

jimyjames:


The coup was celebrated all over Nigeria the northerners too celebrated, those junior officer's who went with nzeogwu to kill saduana almado Bello were huasa' Fulani's , besides that Hassan katsina who was made the military governor of the north was with nzeogwu when he made the broadcast of the coup they carried out that night


The north, Yoruba's were secretly holding meeting's and plotting against ironsi for over 6 months before the assassination ,in fact the Yoruba's completely handed over the south west to northerners to deal with the Igbos as they wish

Why did the Igbos kill Akintola,Ademulegun amd wife amd others?

Deepfeel:

I got ban on my other account


Look don't tell me anything about Yoruba love , there were accounts of Yoruba's pointing out to Igbos especially in cases where northerners could not tell who was igbo or Yoruba , I have read multiple accounts of the 1966-1967 biafra war I can't remember exactly in which book I read that and I no longer have the books

Sticking out for which union when Yoruba's were happy about what was happening to us ?


You all talk about Rwanda but the number of Igbos and easterners that were killed is higher than what happened in Rwanda , Benjamin adekunle confessed himself when he led 40 thousands foot soldiers into biafra he ordered his men to shoot an kill anything that moves in igboland, men women children, young old etc anything that moves , that was a personal hate for the Igbos not , a fight for one Nigeria

oh sorry for that.

what do you want soldiers to say in the theater of war to each other? don't shoot when you see a Biafran soldier? Only God know how you guys think. there is no more friendship when you are fighting a war, its interest that you are now fighting to put in place. its war and everything will be geared to death and saving the ones that could be save until there is a surrender in either party.

Benjamin adekunle did not conquered Biafra, even if he says kill anything in sight, its one man saying what he could say per time, not a directive from the federal government or the Yoruba sentiment at the point in time. One soldier is speaking, giving orders to his boys. His bullet cannot finish the Biafran soldier and he's not immune to death from Biafran soldier either, his rage does not count as result.

you did not lose the part where the Yoruba were insulting the Igbo to go with source, yes if the soldiers can't identify the Igbo, that should be among their prisoner of war and if the Igbo speaks Yoruba or he claims to be Yoruba, a Yoruba soldier can be called upon to verify his claim. When you are in a state of war, the remnant Igbos in Yorubaland or anywhere in the world will naturally be opened to persecution.

They will be suspicious of them and even harm them because you don't know if that one that choose to stay behind is a spy of the enemy. Somewhere in america, during the world war, you might want to know after the Japanese bombed a location in Texas, the saying that rent the air was, "remember the Alamo", I mean war is not a child's play anywhere, can you recall the fate of the Japanese leftover in America afterwards?

What about the fate of the captured american marine in vietcong camp? war is not play, let peace work for you, war is not your mate my brother cause you wont quickly forget the experience and the memorial will be too cumbersome to carry around.

absoluteSuccess:


oh sorry for that.

what do you want soldiers to say in the theater of war to each other? don't shoot when you see a Biafran soldier? Only God know how you guys think. there is no more friendship when you are fighting a war, its interest that you are now fighting to put in place. its war and everything will be geared to death and saving the ones that could be save until there is a surrender in either party.

Benjamin adekunle did not conquered Biafra, even if he says kill anything in sight, its one man saying what he could say per time, not a directive from the federal government or the Yoruba sentiment at the point in time. One soldier is speaking, giving orders to his boys. His bullet cannot finish the Biafran soldier and he's not immune to death from Biafran soldier either, his rage does not count as result.

you did not lose the part where the Yoruba were insulting the Igbo to go with source, yes if the soldiers can't identify the Igbo, that should be among their prisoner of war and if the Igbo speaks Yoruba or he claims to be Yoruba, a Yoruba soldier can be called upon to verify his claim. When you are in a state of war, the remnant Igbos in Yorubaland or anywhere in the world will naturally be opened to persecution.

They will be suspicious of them and even harm them because you don't know if that one that choose to stay behind is a spy of the enemy. Somewhere in america, during the world war, you might want to know after the Japanese bombed a location in Texas, the saying that rent the air was, "remember the Alamo", I mean war is not a child's play anywhere, can you recall the fate of the Japanese leftover in America afterwards?

What about the fate of the captured american marine in vietcong camp? war is not play, let peace work for you, war is not your mate my brother cause you wont quickly forget the experience and the memorial will be too cumbersome to carry around.

Soldiers are meant to kill soldiers not civilians, shooting everything that moves , besides the case of Nigeria-biafra , gowon was telling the international communities it's not a war its just a police action to unite Nigeria ,we love the Igbos we want them in Nigeria etc but it was a complete genocide shooting everything that moves just like adekunle ordered ,he commanded 40 thousands troops , do you know what 40 thousands troops can do to civilians? How about what happened in asaba where Igbos in asaba came out to welcome the Nigerian troops and they took them lined up all the males from 10 yrs and above and killed all of them?

theredaddy:




Despite living in a jet age, Nigeria still don't have accurate population data how much more 1979, Oga if you want to lie not here,
In January 1966, some senior Nigerian army officers, mostly of the Igbo ethnic group, assassinated key politicians [/b]during a coup in the West African state.

Those killed included Ahmadu Bello, a revered leader in the north. tell me was that not for selfish reasons.
[b]
This led to months of massacres against the Igbo living in the north.[/b]Tens of thousands were killed while about a million fled to what was then known as the Eastern Region.
These events sparked the decision to secede, spearheaded by Ojukwu, who was then the military governor of the Eastern Region

Christopher ejike recap: The Nigerians who were pursuing us were trained soldiers. We were not. We were drafted into the war, given two days' training.
So many IGBO folks hid the truth and fed there children lies, an igbo child is sire to resent Nigeria, [b]nobody is telling them the 1st coup in Nigeria history 1966 was "IGBO COUP" by young officiers of the Igbo in the military BUT IGbos turn around and cry Victim
Awolowo owe OJukwu no alliegance, altho the arrangement was awolowo will declared SW republican after Ojukwu declared Biafra .. but Awolowo back down becos he was reasonable to know that is like leading his people to Slaughter, Awolowo himself knows he has no para military training unlike Ojukwu so how will he defend yorubas when ojukwu is busy defending igbos.
That is not betrayal, and we yoruba are grateful Awolowo applied wisdom, if SW have join the civil war, where will igbos have as alternative to run to today.

OGa i won't let you misinform the public some of us know history, this is not to tarnish the Igbos but we must tell ourselves the Truth.

The point of contention is this:

1. Did Awo agree to anything while standing before Ojukwu, putting it in black and white and not verbal agreement done under duress? And why must Ojukwu compel an Awo, an older politician incarcerated for years what to do when he gets to Lagos or to Yorubaland? Then why must Awo abide by that agreement so we can understand the overarching mutual benefit that is at stake between the two that made Awo OBEDIENT to the instruction of Ojukwu.

2. Is Ojukwu the decision maker for the Yoruba and Awo in extension? Much like what recently happened in Lagos with the state elections. If Awo was imprisoned for two years and his “power” could not free him, what does this say of the Awo power in Yorubaland? He has influence, not power. Even if he’s going to do what Ojukwu instruct him to do in Yorubaland, he would have to consult “Yoruba stakeholders”.

3. Please, what militaryman tells a civilian to go to his region and declare secession? What term was Awo serving in the prison and what was he convicted for? Treason: he was convicted for planning to use revolutionary to take over Nigeria’s government. And still, Ojukwu is here instructing him to go and wage war again, against a state that is still enduring when he met with Ojukwu.


Was Awo A Coward?

4. When eventually Awo got his freedom courtesy Gowon, we were told that he wanted the Igbo reinstated back into Nigeria or the Yoruba will opt out of Nigeria too, Hassan Katsina stood up and dealt him a very hot slap. In annoyance, Benjamen Adekunle stood up and dealt a double on the cheeks of katsina and cocks his gun at the spot, ready to let the hell out. It was at the supreme military council meeting that this happened.

5. Please, would an elder in the midst of young soldiers at each other’s throat go again raising secession story over and over? Won’t they decide on the first and best option for the country? And do you really need a proxy Awo or Oduduwa to have a Biafra? Maybe if we can think in the confines of human abilities and limitation, truth can be much more visible.

6. As flesh and blood, would a man not want to pick a piece of his life back coming out of prison and see if he can do much to reunite with his family and find peace also to serve. Abeg let Awo be, the man did try his best for the Igbo and Nigeria at large. He did not become the president, which should be enough to make you people fulfilled now.

From the perspective of human being limited in time and space.

cocolacec:

Why did the Igbos kill Akintola,Ademulegun amd wife amd others?

Go and search for nzeogwu's speech on why they did it