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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 9:42am On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


And I explained further which I expected you to do, the law on this matter is clear, Abuja is given special privileges for equity, remove that and Abuja will suffer a lot even though it is the sit of power....

You see, I don't like engaging in fruitless exercises. My being right or wrong will in no way affect the judgment outcome.
I have made my opinion known on the matter and it stops there, every other thing is shalaye.
You can proceed to the tribunal and ask to be joined in the case, I think that would have more impact than arguing blindly on nairaland.

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Bluehole: 9:42am On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:
I have tried as much as possible to avoid debating on this issue, but sometimes one needs to look at some issues from the simplest forms to solve some problems, so firstly we will need to define the meaning of a state.

According to Oxford dictionary a state is a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.

Now let's talk about Nigeria, Nigeria has 36 states and the FCT, Note that when they teach you in school or write the states and capitals in Nigeria, FCT is the only one without a capital, they just write FCT, the reason is because it is not a state but a capital, it is the capital of Nigeria.

Let's go back to the definition of a state, Nigeria itself is a state and its capital is Abuja(FCT), it is like Lagos and Ikeja, Lagos is a state and Ikeja is its capital.

Now let's go back to the constitution that requires INEC to declare a candidate winner of the presidential election and it states:

The Constitution in stipulating the requirements for election as Nigerian president states in Section 134(2) that a candidate must (a) have the highest number of votes cast at the election; and (b) have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation and the FCT, Abuja.

So here you have it, have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation and the FCT, Abuja.


The reason those who wrote the constitution had to still write FCT, Abuja is because they knew it was not a state and so did not count Abuja as a state but a capital, if not they would have stopped the statement at "have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation".

But they had to stress FCT,Abuja in it to make sure that whoever will interpret the law will know that Abuja was not considered a state when they were referring to "states".


So in essence Abuja is not a state and has never been considered a state constitutionally, it is the capital of Nigeria, it is like what Ikeja is to Lagos, that is why there is no document that uses the statement like Abuja state or state or Abuja like you have Osun state or state of Osun, all you see is Federal capital Territory(Abuja).

So INEC did not follow the constitution



Things cannot be turned upside down just because, someone is about to benefit from it. Your explanation is on point and simple. If FCT was considered a state, why:

1) is it not governed by a governor like other states of the federation?

2) why no state assembly in Abuja?

3) why didn't the constitution save us all this stress by saying 37 states?

4) if INEC can consult before declaring Abia state result, why didn't INEC do so, even when a former NBA president wrote to them about it and there were complaints of irregularities as was the case in Abia and Enugu states.

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by bentenny(m): 10:18am On Mar 24, 2023
Aquila99:


Oga rest, wch constitution, wia is it, quote it here. You pple keep going around telling same lie all over, gullible ones will now be buying and spreading it around.. electoral law said 25% in 24 states and highest vote cast. In d case of BAT, he got both, odaz didn't get d oda two requirements for runoff. So y shld dia be one?

Section 134 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria
(1) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have be been duly elected, where, there being only two candidates for the election -

(a) he has the majority of votes cast at the election; and

(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

(2) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-

(a) he has the highest number of votes cast at the election;

and

(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

(3) In a default of a candidate duly elected in accordance with subsection (2) of this section their shall be a second election in accordance with subsection (4) of this section at which the only candidate shall be -

(a) the candidate who scored the highest number of votes at any election held in accordance with the said subsection (2) of this section; and

(b) one among the remaining candidates who has a majority of votes in the highest number of States, so however that where there are more than one candidate with majority of votes in the highest number of States, the candidate among them with the highest total of votes cast at the election shall be the second candidate for the election.

(4) In default of a candidate duly elected under the foregoing subsections, the Independent National Electoral Commission shall within seven days of the result of the election held under the said subsections, arrange for an election between the two candidates and a candidate at such election shall be deemed elected to the office of President if -

(a) he has a majority of votes cast at the election; and

(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja

(5) In default of a candidate duly elected under subsection (4) of this section, the Independent National Electoral Commission shall, within seven days of the result of the election held under the aforesaid subsection (4), arrange for another election between the two candidates to which the subsection relates and a candidate at such election shall be deemed to have been duly elected to the office of President, if he has a majority of the votes cast at the election.


There are two (2) conditions for determining a winner of a presidential election:

1. A presidential candidate must secure the highest number of votes cast at the election

2. He/she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the States of the federation and FCT

The Electoral Act (2022) states that the winner of the presidential election will be subjected to the provisions of section 134 of the Nigerian Constitution.

“In an election to the office of the President or Governor whether or not contested and in any contested election to any other elective office, the result shall be ascertained by counting the votes cast for each candidate and subjected to the provisions of sections 133, 134 and 179 of the Constitution,”


The candidate that receives the highest number of votes shall be declared elected only if they also fulfill a quota of 25 percent of the total votes cast in about 24 states including/and the Federal Capital Territory.

Section 134, subsection 2, of the 1999 Constitution states:
“A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-he has the highest number of votes cast at the election; and he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.”


The failure of one candidate to fulfill this requirements will make the election inconclusive. This implies that INEC will have to conduct a Run Off (second election). It must be conducted within 21 days from the date of the first election from the date of the declaration of the results for the first round of the election.

What is a Run Off
This is a voting system used to elect a single winner where no candidate meets the condition for securing a win in the first round.


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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by bentenny(m): 10:23am On Mar 24, 2023
adanny01:


What is that explicit requirement - "where the margin of lead is less than the total number of voters in PU's where election didn't hold or voided".

That's the condition for rerun. Otherwise, they can't call for rerun because of Abuja.
There are two (2) conditions for determining a winner of a presidential election:

1. A presidential candidate must secure the highest number of votes cast at the election

2. He/she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the States of the federation and FCT

The Electoral Act (2022) states that the winner of the presidential election will be subjected to the provisions of section 134 of the Nigerian Constitution.

“In an election to the office of the President or Governor whether or not contested and in any contested election to any other elective office, the result shall be ascertained by counting the votes cast for each candidate and subjected to the provisions of sections 133, 134 and 179 of the Constitution,”


The candidate that receives the highest number of votes shall be declared elected only if they also fulfill a quota of 25 percent of the total votes cast in about 24 states including/and the Federal Capital Territory.

Section 134, subsection 2, of the 1999 Constitution states:
“A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-he has the highest number of votes cast at the election; and he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.”


The failure of one candidate to fulfill this requirements will make the election inconclusive. This implies that INEC will have to conduct a Run Off (second election). It must be conducted within 21 days from the date of the first election from the date of the declaration of the results for the first round of the election.

What is a Run Off
This is a voting system used to elect a single winner where no candidate meets the condition for securing a win in the first round.
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Aquila99: 10:34am On Mar 24, 2023
bentenny:





There are two (2) conditions for determining a winner of a presidential election:

1. A presidential candidate must secure the highest number of votes cast at the election

2. He/she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the States of the federation and FCT

The Electoral Act (2022) states that the winner of the presidential election will be subjected to the provisions of section 134 of the Nigerian Constitution.

“In an election to the office of the President or Governor whether or not contested and in any contested election to any other elective office, the result shall be ascertained by counting the votes cast for each candidate and subjected to the provisions of sections 133, 134 and 179 of the Constitution,”


The candidate that receives the highest number of votes shall be declared elected only if they also fulfill a quota of 25 percent of the total votes cast in about 24 states including/and the Federal Capital Territory.

Section 134, subsection 2, of the 1999 Constitution states:
“A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-he has the highest number of votes cast at the election; and he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.”


The failure of one candidate to fulfill this requirements will make the election inconclusive. This implies that INEC will have to conduct a Run Off (second election). It must be conducted within 21 days from the date of the first election from the date of the declaration of the results for the first round of the election.

What is a Run Off
This is a voting system used to elect a single winner where no candidate meets the condition for securing a win in the first round.


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Yes. And you are here misinterpreting d laws. Are u d judge? 36 states and FCT. Falana SAN came out twice (a day to d election on arise and in January in channels tv) and said is not compulsory. Secondly. Only BAT met one of conditions accoulrding to u. Which of d oda candidates got 25% in 24 states. So assuming dia will be a runoff, who will now be d candidate to face BAT?

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Aquila99: 10:37am On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


Some laws are very clear that even a teenager will explain easily....

Yes. Not for the case of 25% in 24 states as you have misinterpreted. My own interpretation is also different, same as many SANs also with dia own different understanding.

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by jumobi1(m): 10:45am On Mar 24, 2023
In my opinion, at the end of the day, the court can decide either way.

Why should the FCT be given special treatment? Is the fact that the FCT doesn’t have a Governor and HOA enough reason to require a President score at least 25% when the he/she has already attained it in 25 other states? In other parts of the constitution involving the text “States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja”, is the FCT given special treatment or treated equally?

The more I read the constitution, the more uncertain I am. Lol
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by famology(m): 10:57am On Mar 24, 2023
It will end up in hot tears for you zombidients. Una go cry tire. The judiciary is the next to be villified because your case will be thrown out definitely.

Emotions blinded you swines from seeing your defeat coming in the election, it's blinding you guys again from seeing another defeat in the court.

The drafters of the constitution can never give a special right of citizenship to Abuja resident to the detriment of citizens of other states. Impossible! All Nigerian citizens are equal before the law. No Nigerian citizen is more equal than others just because of their geographical location within the country. Una go cry again as usual after the court judgement.

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Bede2u(m): 11:33am On Mar 24, 2023
dat9jaguy:




Hypothetically, let us assume the candidate that won FCT lost other states without getting 25% in them but the opponent won the remaining 36 states without getting 25% in FCT, then you will call for rerun It just doesn't make sense.
This example is hypothetical and just for this argument.
the reason why lawyers get paid is to play with words. A good lawyer can successfully argue that fct is different from the states in this context. I just wish we all could move on though. Cos Tinubu will not put every yoruba person on payroll. All these are just the I pass my neighbour mentality of Africans. A Tinubu presidency shouldn't mean a 'yoruba' presidency.

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by buchilla: 11:36am On Mar 24, 2023
adanny01:


If 25% of Abuja is a most. 1999, 2003, 2015, 2019 elections would have automatically been a stalemate with no winner. There is also no way to proceed having a president in the constitution. It will be a lacuna.

Think critically my friend.Obj didn't win Abj twice, same with Buhari twice.

Imagine each of all those sceneries, no one wins. What will happen.

Think very well, if 25% in Abj is a must. This election has no winner, and the constitution has nothing prescribed for this situation. It's a deadlock and then chaos.

Those who drafted the constitution know this and they couldn't have planned a deadlock election. One that has happened 5 out of 7 elections since 1999.

Lastly, did I mention Tinubu or INEC?

Your comprehension and interpretation is simply wrong.
since 1999 winner of the presidential election has been scoring @ least 25% votes in FCT.

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by buharitill2023: 11:39am On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


Even after explaining, you don't still understand, you have 36 boys and 1 girl and at Random you are mandated to share money to at least 25 of them every 4 years, but your eyes must be closed while selecting them.

That girl already is disadvantaged because in the next 20 years She might never be picked, so how do you ensure that she doesn't grow old and die without getting picked, single her out and ensure she gets her own minimum share of what the remaining 24 boys will get anytime you are sharing...

That way She gets a special privilege of been the only girl...
every four years she has be getting her share,
And this is the first time not to get her share because 30 boys were considered,
Which is more considerate? 24 boys and the girl got 25%, or for 30 boys to get 25%,
Atleast, it should be more beneficial to be accepted by 30 boys than to be accepted by 24 boys and girl,
Nothing special about the girl,
We are all the same members of the family
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 11:41am On Mar 24, 2023
buharitill2023:
every four years she has be getting her share,
And this is the first time not to get her share because 30 boys were considered,
Which is more considerate? 24 boys and the girl got 25%, or for 30 boys to get 25%,
Atleast, it should be more beneficial to be accepted by 30 boys than to be accepted by 24 boys and girl,
Nothing special about the girl,
We are all the same members of the family

Your explanation does not understand the word equity....
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 11:42am On Mar 24, 2023
Aquila99:


Yes. Not for the case of 25% in 24 states as you have misinterpreted. My own interpretation is also different, same as many SANs also with dia own different understanding.

It doesn't still change the fact that FCT was mentioned to to be required of 25%
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 11:47am On Mar 24, 2023
dat9jaguy:


You see, I don't like engaging in fruitless exercises. My being right or wrong will in no way affect the judgment outcome.
I have made my opinion known on the matter and it stops there, every other thing is shalaye.
You can proceed to the tribunal and ask to be joined in the case, I think that would have more impact than arguing blindly on nairaland.

It doesn't mean we cannot have healthy discussions about our country and its constitution, or why do you think TV stations do the same thing even when it might not change the outcome of a court ruling....

It is our right and we can use it as we like, if you don't like it you also have the right to keep quiet and ignore us....
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 11:50am On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


It doesn't mean we cannot have healthy discussions about our country and its constitution, or why do you think TV stations do the same thing even when it might not change the outcome of a court ruling....

It is our right and we can use it as we like, if you don't like it you also have the right to keep quiet and ignore us....



Let's try this. If you have chat genius, select legal assistant and tell it to interprete that section of the constitution for you then tell us what it says.

Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by bentenny(m): 11:53am On Mar 24, 2023
Aquila99:


Yes. And you are here misinterpreting d laws. Are u d judge? 36 states and FCT. Falana SAN came out twice (a day to d election on arise and in January in channels tv) and said is not compulsory. Secondly. Only BAT met one of conditions accoulrding to u. Which of d oda candidates got 25% in 24 states. So assuming dia will be a runoff, who will now be d candidate to face BAT?
No sir its self explanatory...U just need to remove emotions and you will see it explicitly!
As much as i admire the legendary counsel of the great Falana,i would disagree with him on this one!
25% in FCT is mandatory....This is the only president that neither won nor attained 25% of FCT!
Even the occasionally unpopular PMB worked hard enough to achieve above 25% at FCT despite losing twice!
You dont need to meet just one but all the requirements....You must satisfy the requirements as stipulated in the constitution to be declared winner of the election!
Its doesn't matter what the other candidates attained, the law remains the law and must be strictly adhered to with zero emotions!
Based on the content of the law and the present votes attained by the three major parties pending the outcome of the tribunal,APC will square up with PDP in a runoff in 21 days from the initial election where the candidate with the highest votes will emerge winner!
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by obi4eze(m): 11:56am On Mar 24, 2023
Oga abi madam, Abuja is in FCT.
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 11:59am On Mar 24, 2023
dat9jaguy:




Let's try this. If you have chat genius, select legal assistant and tell it to interprete that section of the constitution for you then tell us what it says.

I don't have chat genius....
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Oskiki: 12:02pm On Mar 24, 2023
KingsCity:
Let’s say a candidate won 36 states 100% but failed to get 25% in FCT.

Are you telling me this candidate should not be declared president?

So Abuja is now more important than every other state?

Does this make any sense?
Discretion of judges is employed in this situation
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 12:03pm On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


I don't have chat genius....



Try downloading the app. It is very useful. It is free on play store. Chatgpt.

Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by NaijaSumigan: 12:07pm On Mar 24, 2023
KingsCity:
Let’s say a candidate won 36 states 100% but failed to get 25% in FCT.

Are you telling me this candidate should not be declared president?

So Abuja is now more important than every other state?

Does this make any sense?

It's not about whether it makes sense, so far it is what the constitution say; making sense isn't the issue but what the constitution says and the interpretation
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by buharitill2023: 12:08pm On Mar 24, 2023
bentenny:





There are two (2) conditions for determining a winner of a presidential election:

1. A presidential candidate must secure the highest number of votes cast at the election

2. He/she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the States of the federation and FCT

The Electoral Act (2022) states that the winner of the presidential election will be subjected to the provisions of section 134 of the Nigerian Constitution.

“In an election to the office of the President or Governor whether or not contested and in any contested election to any other elective office, the result shall be ascertained by counting the votes cast for each candidate and subjected to the provisions of sections 133, 134 and 179 of the Constitution,”


The candidate that receives the highest number of votes shall be declared elected only if they also fulfill a quota of 25 percent of the total votes cast in about 24 states including/and the Federal Capital Territory.

Section 134, subsection 2, of the 1999 Constitution states:
“A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-he has the highest number of votes cast at the election; and he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.”


The failure of one candidate to fulfill this requirements will make the election inconclusive. This implies that INEC will have to conduct a Run Off (second election). It must be conducted within 21 days from the date of the first election from the date of the declaration of the results for the first round of the election.

What is a Run Off
This is a voting system used to elect a single winner where no candidate meets the condition for securing a win in the first round.


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is fct different from "the federation"

Is boy and girl different in the family, are they not giving birth by their parents?

The constitution only indicated fct because is a capital of the federation,

The same way, a girl is identify separately from the boys because of the gender, but the same member of the family,

Fct is also identify separately because is a capital but the same member of the federation,

The "AND" is just for you to add it among the states,

Because if you have 25% in 24 state, you can be declared winner, till you get 25 state
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 12:23pm On Mar 24, 2023
famology:
It will end up in hot tears for you zombidients. Una go cry tire. The judiciary is the next to be villified because your case will be thrown out definitely.

Emotions blinded you swines from seeing your defeat coming in the election, it's blinding you guys again from seeing another defeat in the court.

The drafters of the constitution can never give a special right of citizenship to Abuja resident to the detriment of citizens of other states. Impossible! All Nigerian citizens are equal before the law. No Nigerian citizen is more equal than others just because of their geographical location within the country. Una go cry again as usual after the court judgement.

The problem with you Tinubu supporters is you people don't pay attention to details, you guys are always lumping things and generalizing issues.

You ask why Abuja should be given special treatment from other states and I will give you a few reasons.

Have you ever though of an Abuja indigene filling a form where there is a place for state of origin, remember under the constitution Abuja is not a state, the supreme court says in such matter that Abuja should be considered a state for equity, what this shows is that by virtue of Abuja been FCT it became disadvantaged on so many other things that if they are not given special privileges they will lose out a lot both as indigenes and dwellers.

Now you might say it is just state of origin issue but that is where it even gets more complicated on some other matters, in 2018 the indigines of Abuja had to drag the FG to court because they were sidelined due to the constitution that states that a president must appoint ministers from every state of the federation.

So past president were not appointing anyone from the FCT by the virtue of it not been a state, the case dragged to the supreme and they ruled that for equity Abuja should be given a special privilege to appoint people from Abuja for equity again.

Now let's come back to the constition for electing a president, you now see why they made it mandatory for 25% in the FCT, because if they did not, FCT will be the only place that will not require the 25% by anyone to become president because it will be automatically sidelined by the virtue of not been a state and if you say that it should be lumped together as an ordinary state without making it mandatory then someone can drag the case to court and say that by virtue of the constitution the FCT is not a state.

Which means that if someone gets 25% there it can be challenged as not to be counted and vice-versa.

You see why it should have a special privilege making it mandatory to avoid complexity....
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by buharitill2023: 12:26pm On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


Your explanation does not understand the word equity....
No,
Because the drafters of the constitution did not considered equity or morality,
We are talking about who is more acceptance in the federation,
Tinubu were accepted in 30 states,
Atiku were accepted in about 20 states,
And obi in 16 states,

Or as obi won fct, making the States win by obi to be 12 States, why don't you double obi number of states won to be 13 States, since fct is special.

As I said before, idiotic pigs and una senior advocates of illiterate are wasting our precious time
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 12:27pm On Mar 24, 2023
dat9jaguy:




Try downloading the app. It is very useful. It is free on play store. Chatgpt.

I will try and check it...
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by famology(m): 12:28pm On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


The problem with you Tinubu supporters is you people don't pay attention to details, you guys are always lumping things and generalizing issues.

You ask why Abuja should be given special treatment from other states and I will give you a few reasons.

Have you ever though of an Abuja indigene filling a form where there is a place for state of origin, remember under the constitution Abuja is not a state, the supreme court says in such matter that Abuja should be considered a state for equity, what this shows is that by virtue of Abuja been FCT it became disadvantaged on so many other things that if they are not given special privileges they will lose out a lot both as indigenes and dwellers.

Now you might say it is just state of origin issue but that is where it even gets more complicated on some other matters, in 2018 the indigines of Abuja had to drag the FG to court because they were sidelined due to the constitution that states that a president must appoint ministers from every state of the federation.

So past president were not appointing anyone from the FCT by the virtue of it not been a state, the case dragged to the supreme and they ruled that for equity Abuja should be given a special privilege to appoint people from Abuja for equity again.

Now let's come back to the constition for electing a president, you now see why they made it mandatory for 25% in the FCT, because if they did not, FCT will be the only place that will not require the 25% by anyone to become president because it will be automatically sidelined by the virtue of not been a state and if you say that it should be lumped together as an ordinary state without making it mandatory then someone can drag the case to court and say that by virtue of the constitution the FCT is not a state.

Which means that if someone gets 25% there it can be challenged as not to be counted and vice-versa.

You see why it should have a special privilege making it mandatory to avoid complexity....

Your reasons are just as foolish as you. Rubbish! I'll mock you all again when you lose out in the court. Bloody losers!
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 12:33pm On Mar 24, 2023
buharitill2023:
No,
Because the drafters of the constitution did not considered equity or morality,
We are talking about who is more acceptance in the federation,
Tinubu were accepted in 30 states,
Atiku were accepted in about 20 states,
And obi in 16 states,

Or as obi won fct, making the States win by obi to be 12 States, why don't you double obi number of states won to be 13 States, since fct is special.

As I said before, idiotic pigs and una senior advocates of illiterate are wasting our precious time

You still are missing the point, this like someone who does WAEC and clears all his paper and does not pass the minimum score in English, he can never gain admission in any school in the world that uses English, so why the special privilege on English.

That is the same privilege Abuja gets for been the FCT of Nigeria....
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 12:36pm On Mar 24, 2023
famology:


Your reasons are just as foolish as you. Rubbish! I'll mock you all again when you lose out in the court. Bloody losers!

This is the problem with you guys, you don't need to insult, we can have meaningful conversations without insults, make your points like I am doing mine.
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by buharitill2023: 12:39pm On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


The problem with you Tinubu supporters is you people don't pay attention to details, you guys are always lumping things and generalizing issues.

You ask why Abuja should be given special treatment from other states and I will give you a few reasons.

Have you ever though of an Abuja indigene filling a form where there is a place for state of origin, remember under the constitution Abuja is not a state, the supreme court says in such matter that Abuja should be considered a state for equity, what this shows is that by virtue of Abuja been FCT it became disadvantaged on so many other things that if they are not given special privileges they will lose out a lot both as indigenes and dwellers.

Now you might say it is just state of origin issue but that is where it even gets more complicated on some other matters, in 2018 the indigines of Abuja had to drag the FG to court because they were sidelined due to the constitution that states that a president must appoint ministers from every state of the federation.

So past president were not appointing anyone from the FCT by the virtue of it not been a state, the case dragged to the supreme and they ruled that for equity Abuja should be given a special privilege to appoint people from Abuja for equity again.

Now let's come back to the constition for electing a president, you now see why they made it mandatory for 25% in the FCT, because if they did not, FCT will be the only place that will not require the 25% by anyone to become president because it will be automatically sidelined by the virtue of not been a state and if you say that it should be lumped together as an ordinary state without making it mandatory then someone can drag the case to court and say that by virtue of the constitution the FCT is not a state.

Which means that if someone gets 25% there it can be challenged as not to be counted and vice-versa.

You see why it should have a special privilege making it mandatory to avoid complexity....
you're confusing yourself,
If you get 25% in 24 state, you can be the declare winner,
But with fct 25% can be use to make up the 25% of 25 states required,
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Aquila99: 12:45pm On Mar 24, 2023
bentenny:

No sir its self explanatory...U just need to remove emotions and you will see it explicitly!
As much as i admire the legendary counsel of the great Falana,i would disagree with him on this one!
25% in FCT is mandatory....This is the only president that neither won nor attained 25% of FCT!
Even the occasionally unpopular PMB worked hard enough to achieve above 25% at FCT despite losing twice!
You dont need to meet just one but all the requirements....You must satisfy the requirements as stipulated in the constitution to be declared winner of the election!
Its doesn't matter what the other candidates attained, the law remains the law and must be strictly adhered to with zero emotions!
Based on the content of the law and the present votes attained by the three major parties pending the outcome of the tribunal,APC will square up with PDP in a runoff in 21 days from the initial election where the candidate with the highest votes will emerge winner!

Well, since everyone of us have a different understanding and is misinpretation opinions to both of us. Den we leave it to the Courts to decide.

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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by buharitill2023: 12:45pm On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


You still are missing the point, this like someone who does WAEC and clears all his paper and does not pass the minimum score in English, he can never gain admission in any school in the world that uses English, so why the special privilege on English.

That is the same privilege Abuja gets for been the FCT of Nigeria....
in all school requirements,
It is stated boldly that english and mathematics compulsory before gaining admission,
But the constitution did not use the word mandatory for fct,
Meaning you can win any state, provided is 25 states.
The constitution made 25 states compulsory,
If you get 25% in 24 states, you can't be declared winner
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Femmyfamous4u(m): 12:52pm On Mar 24, 2023
Brendaniel:


I don't need to have a degree or qualification to understand or interpret the constitution of Nigeria....

The, you'd be flawed. Section 299 already interpreted it. It said " for the purpose of interpretation, the FCT shall be regarded as a state"

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