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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:09am On Mar 25, 2023
SUFFERInSMILIIN:


No petrol

Nigeria's problem has always been illiteracy . A Nigerian will vote for somebody next day they are running away from the person
I am amazed by Nigerian people patience
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:23am On Mar 25, 2023
Kenya dairy sector already africa best - now turning world-class.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF9IWrH4mlk
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:28am On Mar 25, 2023
ProblemChild1:
This one sef is not even close to the central mosque in Abuja
You're really suffering inferiority complex

He said "One of the largest" it does not mean it is the largest. It could be the 4th 5th or 6th largest mosque but the underlined statement is " It is One of the largest mosques in West Africa" which is a fact

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:37am On Mar 25, 2023
Jamestown123:
Then what will you say about the Abuja national mosque? The one in Dakar is not close.
How do you understand this statement One of the largest mosques?

You guys are really suffering inferiority complex

For example if someone says Accra is one of the largest cities in West Africa does it mean Accra is the largest city in West Africa?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:39am On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:


Why would you imagine I am invested in South africa to know what Ramaphosa is doing. If you check - this what I proposed for Nigeria to do years ago.

And pray who will buy a bankrupt Eskom.

And pray will private Eskom manage with lower tarrifs.

End of day - MONEY will solve the problem - and money has to come from electricity consumers.

Quickest solution - jack up the electricity prices 3 times - Eskom balanced sheet will be healthy - and do other stuff - to improve efficiency and productivity.

because you are, and what you said is exactly what we have been posting here for years literally word for word. Dont try to act smart and expect me to believe you came up with that Idea all by yourself?? Please bru grin grin

Also there are a bunch of private firms just waiting to buy Eskom if given the chance... Shows how little you actually know smiley

Secondly the market will dictate the price and when the market dictates the price and the monopoly of Eskom doesn't exist anymore electricity prices will decrease dramatically... That's the beauty of capitalism, unfortunately Africans have been brainwashed into thinking capitalism is the route to all evil.

Also you can't increase electricity prices by 300%...you must be fvcking smoking some good sh1t.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 11:18am On Mar 25, 2023
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 12:24pm On Mar 25, 2023
Nope, my first relocation of this issues, was when I read from my favourite newspaper, The economist, what ails Nigeria electricity sector. And it was broke distribution companies who cant pay broke generation companies, who in turn cannot buy gas, or turn on the turbines. Nigeria problem origin is of course - few metered customers and rampant electricity theft - which cascade through power sector. Nigeria has to send the army in and fix metering & stop electricity theft.

I know Eskom has similar issues - it broke

Kenya Power company similar issues - it's broke.

Utility companies are too important to go bankrupt.

Eskom is taking down South Africa economy.

Again privatization of power sector sound great at face value but it's VERY STUPID - when you examine the facts. I used to rail our power sector - wishing it was split - and competition induced - until I realized certain facts.

Kenya power like Eskom have few customers who consumed almost all electricity. South Africa large power consumers are about what 30 - like of Tiger industries. The rest of 17 million consumes very little. The same for kenya - 500 companies consumes 80 percent of electricity - 20% - are million of household.

If you privatize - they will go for the 40 companies - and provide them electricity & make huge profit - 17 million south africa households will be left to darkness as it's not profitable to supply them.

Electricity is not like Telcoms. READ DEEEEEEEEEEEEPLY. I recommend you subscribe to The Economist. It has been my best friend since 1990.

jl115:
because you are, and what you said is exactly what we have been posting here for years literally word for word. Dont try to act smart and expect me to believe you came up with that Idea all by yourself?? Please bru grin grin

Also there are a bunch of private firms just waiting to buy Eskom if given the chance... Shows how little you actually know smiley

Secondly the market will dictate the price and when the market dictates the price and the monopoly of Eskom doesn't exist anymore electricity prices will decrease dramatically... That's the beauty of capitalism, unfortunately Africans have been brainwashed into thinking capitalism is the route to all evil.

Also you can't increase electricity prices by 300%...you must be fvcking smoking some good sh1t.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 12:30pm On Mar 25, 2023
Waste of money and time.
Nigeria installed capacity is 12,000MW.
Nigeria can barely get 3,000MW.
Problem is not generation.
Problem is elsewhere.

Nigeria electricity problem will be fixed by metering everyone with pre-paid meters - and punishing any electricity theft.

Until that is done - you're going to go into darkness for another 30yrs.

Those guys will not turn on electricity when distro company doesnt pay them. Distro company will not supply when Nigerians are stealing electricity.

Create Nigeria Electricity Police Wing - disconnect everyone - connect them to prepaid meter - give huge fines for any illegal meter or tapping from electricity.

Fourpockets:
NASENI begins $325 million solar cell plant.


[url] https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/03/25/naseni-begins-325-8m-solar-cells-plant-project/ [/url]
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 12:39pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Waste of money and time.
Nigeria installed capacity is 12,000MW.
Nigeria can barely get 3,000MW.
Problem is not generation.
Problem is elsewhere.

Nigeria electricity problem will be fixed by metering everyone with pre-paid meters - and punishing any electricity theft.

Until that is done - you're going to go into darkness for another 30yrs.

Those guys will not turn on electricity when distro company doesnt pay them. Distro company will not supply when Nigerians are stealing electricity.

Create Nigeria Electricity Police Wing - disconnect everyone - connect them to prepaid meter - give huge fines for any illegal meter or tapping from electricity.

Update yourself.
Nigerian installed capacity is 21000MW.
Nigeria can only get over 4500MW at present.

But I agree with your point to an extent.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 12:58pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Nope, my first relocation of this issues, was when I read from my favourite newspaper, The economist, what ails Nigeria electricity sector. And it was broke distribution companies who cant pay broke generation companies, who in turn cannot buy gas, or turn on the turbines. Nigeria problem origin is of course - few metered customers and rampant electricity theft - which cascade through power sector. Nigeria has to send the army in and fix metering & stop electricity theft.

I know Eskom has similar issues - it broke

Kenya Power company similar issues - it's broke.

Utility companies are too important to go bankrupt.

Eskom is taking down South Africa economy.

Again privatization of power sector sound great at face value but it's VERY STUPID - when you examine the facts. I used to rail our power sector - wishing it was split - and competition induced - until I realized certain facts.

Kenya power like Eskom have few customers who consumed almost all electricity. South Africa large power consumers are about what 30 - like of Tiger industries. The rest of 17 million consumes very little. The same for kenya - 500 companies consumes 80 percent of electricity - 20% - are million of household.

If you privatize - they will go for the 40 companies - and provide them electricity & make huge profit - 17 million south africa households will be left to darkness as it's not profitable to supply them.

Electricity is not like Telcoms. READ DEEEEEEEEEEEEPLY. I recommend you subscribe to The Economist. It has been my best friend since 1990.

- you can blab on about how you figured out this great idea all you want, next time try not to copy and past from Google, at least try to make it seem original.

- yes privatisation is "very stupid" I guess Australia, Japan, China ect ect are all very stupid for privatisation and having very cheap reliable electricity... We should not privatise and increase already expensive energy prices by 300%... That is what you are saying!! grin grin grin

- I'm already subscribed to the economist my bru wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 1:24pm On Mar 25, 2023
vankelvin:

You're really suffering inferiority complex

He said "One of the largest" it does not mean it is the largest. It could be the 4th 5th or 6th largest mosque but the underlined statement is " It is One of the largest mosques in West Africa" which is a fact
I got you already bro, I got you. It's cool wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 1:29pm On Mar 25, 2023
GeneralDae:

Update yourself.
Nigerian installed capacity is 21000MW.
Nigeria can only get over 4500MW at present.

But I agree with your point to an extent.
8000mw, pls.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 1:34pm On Mar 25, 2023
theenchanter:
8000mw, pls.

Well to my knowledge, the Siemens deal was to increase this from 5000 MW to 7000MW by May 2023. Can you give me the new link to this 8000MW update?

Edit: Okay I just found this now.

The minister, who said that the 8,000MW comprises of 5,000MW on-grid and above 3,000MW of industrial captive off-grid, said the President Muhammadu Buhari administration will leave an installed capacity of almost 22,000MW by the May 2023.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 3:13pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Waste of money and time.
Nigeria installed capacity is 12,000MW.
Nigeria can barely get 3,000MW.
Problem is not generation.
Problem is elsewhere.

Nigeria electricity problem will be fixed by metering everyone with pre-paid meters - and punishing any electricity theft.

Until that is done - you're going to go into darkness for another 30yrs.

Those guys will not turn on electricity when distro company doesnt pay them. Distro company will not supply when Nigerians are stealing electricity.

Create Nigeria Electricity Police Wing - disconnect everyone - connect them to prepaid meter - give huge fines for any illegal meter or tapping from electricity.

I understand your point, but my post had nothing to do with fixing Nigerias power problem. I posted it to inform people Nigeria will soon start manufacturing solar CELLS. First in Africa

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Subsaharan: 3:52pm On Mar 25, 2023
FG would be required by law to eliminate fuel subsidies by June, 2023.

https://www.channelstv.com/2023/01/04/fg-to-stop-payment-of-fuel-subsidy-by-end-of-june-2023/
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 5:25pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
I believe solution to Eskom problem is to provide them money to get out bankruptcy. Then splitting Eskom into distribution, generation and transmission.

But definitely Eskom need money to clean it's balance sheet and become solid - and it can only get consistent money it's 17 million customers - not bailout.

Prepare for high tarrifs if you want to enjoy reliable electricity for a long while.

Those prices were not sustainable.



Again prices were sustainable

Corruption was the only problem
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:12pm On Mar 25, 2023
Long overdue. I can think of many ways to spend 12B dollars annually than subsidizing fuel. Invest in Army and security. Invest in education especially in Nigeria north.

In fact use the whole money to get North Nigerian kids to proper schooling - and two generation from now - the benefit will be apparent.

Subsaharan:
FG would be required by law to eliminate fuel subsidies by June, 2023.

https://www.channelstv.com/2023/01/04/fg-to-stop-payment-of-fuel-subsidy-by-end-of-june-2023/

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:17pm On Mar 25, 2023
How many power companies are there in Australia, Japan and China.
Kenya Power is Private Monopoly.
Power sector is not your usual tea of cup.
It's not your telcom company.

Elevate your thinking bro.

If private company secures top 30 biggest electricity consumers - what business will they have stringing wires to deep KZN - to supply a hunter power to deep freeze his last hunt?

Electricity has to be managed in different model - quasi private with some gov interventions.

jl115:

- you can blab on about how you figured out this great idea all you want, next time try not to copy and past from Google, at least try to make it seem original.

- yes privatisation is "very stupid" I guess Australia, Japan, China ect ect are all very stupid for privatisation and having very cheap reliable electricity... We should not privatise and increase already expensive energy prices by 300%... That is what you are saying!! grin grin grin

- I'm already subscribed to the economist my bru wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:19pm On Mar 25, 2023
Corruption is a given;
Focus on other things;
If nobody has been convicted of stealing electricity or electricity funds; focus on real solutions.

Otherwise you will become a new nigeria;

Lame excuses; nothing get sorted;

AfriqueDuZuid:


Again prices were sustainable

Corruption was the only problem
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:21pm On Mar 25, 2023
Kenya has manufactured solar cells and batteries for donkey years.

Kenya is world leader for years on small solar systems.

Nigeria can learn from it. I think kenya even beat India with 1.5B in number of small home system installed.

Fourpockets:

I understand your point, but my post had nothing to do with fixing Nigerias power problem. I posted it to inform people Nigeria will soon start manufacturing solar CELLS. First in Africa
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:23pm On Mar 25, 2023
Actually, Kenya is the world leader in the number of solar power systems installed per capita. More Kenyans are now turning to solar power every year rather than make connections to the country’s electric grid. This is due to a number of challenges that one faces when connecting to the national grid the first and foremost being costs of such a setup and also the high cost of buying power from Kenya Power.

Kenya has about 75% household connected the grid.
The rest are on solar.

Kenya started solar transition in 1980s!!!!!!!!!!

These solar systems were financed by co-operative movement - kenya has africa largest cooperative movement - and world's 7th largest cooperative movement. Almost every kenyan his member of a co-operative society.

Kenya national motto is Harambee - which mean pulling together - forming cooperative, fundraising for things, joint stuff.

Smart communism - that is not forced. Africa socialism.

Put three random kenyans together - they will form a cooperative in evening - the day earning will be given to one guy - tomorrow the next guy - the guy will get enough money to make big purchase.
In Kenya everyone is in cooperative - president, mps, judiciary - people merge their salaries - and borrow from each other - even lowest of low - form co-op - save and borrow from each other - avoiding banks.

https://www.roedl.com/insights/renewable-energy/2016-07/solar-power-frontier-kenya-renewable-energy-sector
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 7:33pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
How many power companies are there in Australia, Japan and China.
Kenya Power is Private Monopoly.
Power sector is not your usual tea of cup.
It's not your telcom company.

Elevate your thinking bro.

If private company secures top 30 biggest electricity consumers - what business will they have stringing wires to deep KZN - to supply a hunter power to deep freeze his last hunt?

Electricity has to be managed in different model - quasi private with some gov interventions.

Many... That's the point, new IPPs are popping up every day in South Africa.

Power generation is just like any other business, you making it sound more complicated then it actually is.

Also I said privatise Eskom.... That doesn't mean 1 single company will take over, Eskom and its infrastructure can be broken up and be sold to many smaller private companies, I never said Eskom should be bought by 1 company.

Nope privatisation without any government intervention/interference
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 7:34pm On Mar 25, 2023
When you're an agriculture powerhouse, you don't run out on food.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOe4GyMZ4rQ

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:38pm On Mar 25, 2023
Unbundling of course
Privatize power generation...hopefully via auction..so IPPS dont come to bite.
The transmission keep it public.
Distro tough - free market economy wont work
You dont want your distro picking the big manufacturing and minning companies and leaving poor household.

Please understand the complexity or at least appreciate.

South Africa is struggling because it NOT EASY.

Nigeria has given up.

Kenya is paying through the nose to stay afloat.

Rest of Africa are in rolling blackout.

jl115:

Many... That's the point, new IPPs are popping up every day in South Africa.

Power generation is just like any other business, you making it sound more complicated then it actually is.

Also I said privatise Eskom.... That doesn't mean 1 single company will take over, Eskom and its infrastructure can be broken up and be sold to many smaller private companies, I never said Eskom should be bought by 1 company.

Nope privatisation without any government intervention/interference
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:46pm On Mar 25, 2023
I listened to it; Cant make head or tail; what are manufacturing in the hoe powered Ghana.

Ivory coast can speak; Ghana smiley

Please import machinery abroad with reliable spares; no sane farmer will buy crap of tractors; then it die on them.

Not even Belarus are able to crack it;

A tractor manufactured in 1940s is still active in world somewhere. Just zero rate import duty and import.

China has tried for donkey years - CANT HACK TRACTORS.

Massey Fergusons, John Deeres, and name them are BULLET PROOF - you can buy a 1950 Massey Ferguson now - in 2023 - and use it for next 70yrs.

Just30:
When you're an agriculture powerhouse, you don't run out on food.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOe4GyMZ4rQ
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 7:47pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
I listened to it; Cant make head or tail; what are manufacturing in the hoe powered Ghana.

Ivory coast can speak; Ghana smiley

Please import machinery abroad with reliable spares; no sane farmer will buy crap of tractors; then it die on them.

Not even Belarus are able to crack it;

A tractor manufactured in 1940s is still active in world somewhere. Just zero rate import duty and import.

cry somewhere else

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:50pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mad cow - make me a Massey Ferguson - I am looking to import 5 soon. I am looking for 135 - manufactured 964 to 1975. I come from a serious farming communities.

I know farm implement like the Boer here.

Ghana making farm tractors smiley smiley - who will buy them. European tractors are unbreakable. Buy them. Use them. Farming is not sissies.

Just30:
cry somewhere else
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 8:03pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Mad cow - make me a Massey Ferguson - I am looking to import 5 soon. I am looking for 135 - manufactured 964 to 1975. I come from a serious farming communities.

I know farm implement like the Boer here.

Ghana making farm tractors smiley smiley - who will buy them. European tractors are unbreakable. Buy them. Use them. Farming is not sissies.

sorry... We don't come from a place of dependency like Kenya... We will be making the best that poor Kenyans will be able to afford in order to transform the hand picking agriculture you guys practice on those European leaf farms.

Maybe with them, Kenya can finally start growing it own food

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:19pm On Mar 25, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Unbundling of course
Privatize power generation...hopefully via auction..so IPPS dont come to bite.
The transmission keep it public.
Distro tough - free market economy wont work
You dont want your distro picking the big manufacturing and minning companies and leaving poor household.

Please understand the complexity or at least appreciate.

South Africa is struggling because it NOT EASY.

Nigeria has given up.

Kenya is paying through the nose to stay afloat.

Rest of Africa are in rolling blackout.

There is a market for all, including the poor, full privatisation is the answer, hence why the countries with the cheapest and most reliable energy are fully privatised.

It's not complex, you are just making it complex for no reason

Eskom was a well oiled machine when the ANC took over, it actually won awards for being the cheapest most reliable energy producer, the reason it sank is because of ANC corruption and incompetence ... As simple as that.

Yes because like SA most of Africas energy supply is state controlled
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:35pm On Mar 25, 2023
jl115:

There is a market for all, including the poor, full privatisation is the answer, hence why the countries with the cheapest and most reliable energy are fully privatised.

It's not complex, you are just making it complex for no reason

Eskom was a well oiled machine when the ANC took over, it actually won awards for being the cheapest most reliable energy producer, the reason it sank is because of ANC corruption and incompetence ... As simple as that.

Yes because like SA most of Africas energy supply is state controlled
Well oiled when it was serving Boers and tiny rich majority. The moment it spread to all corners and covered 17m south Africans households the profitable model collapsed as every connection to a poor household is a loss. ANC wanted universal electricity coverage and Eskom is the prize.In short electricity doesn't lend itself to be easily privatised like telecom. If you study the millions of poor households ANC added had zero impact on total consumption but they negatively impact Eskom fundamentals without raising its earnings. Worst it appears ANC made Eskom subsidize the poor even more..a double whammy. THE SOLUTION...separate industry from household..let households pay the real cost of stringing wires long distance for them to watch TV...or get off network and use solar.Universal access is expensive and people need to be aware
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 12:20pm On Mar 26, 2023
Look like kenya has highest per capita of crypto held at 16% followed by south africa at 6%.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 1:02pm On Mar 26, 2023
rvp20182:
Look like kenya has highest per capita of crypto held at 16% followed by south africa at 6%.
Nigeria was once the third biggest in the world ( behind the US and Russia ), I guess the crackdown on cryptocurrency by Nigerian govt did justice to this chart.

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