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We escaped a major disaster here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZlF2uX630

chris81964:
We escaped a major disaster here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZlF2uX630

This one off me o
Hmmmm.

chris81964:
We escaped a major disaster here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZlF2uX630

Is there something like a carbon monoxide detector here? What's the root cause of this fire?

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For such a cheap inverter, you boldly give assurance of 3X surge power. Your client believes you & will connect appliance that will surge 3X the capacity of inverter. Inverter dies, your cabals will come after your client saying "HE ABUSED THE INVERTER".

To prospective client, don't believe the 3X surge power. Remember, if anything goes wrong with the inverter, there is no service center in Nigeria. You will be on your own. My 2 cent.

zeestone99:


These are the least of things the 3.5kva is capable of.
85% efficiency and 3 × surge power

It would carry your loads without stress

sintolord:
For such a cheap inverter, you boldly give assurance of 3X surge power. Your client believes you & will connect appliance that will surge 3X the capacity of inverter. Inverter dies, your cabals will come after your client saying "HE ABUSED THE INVERTER".

To prospective client, don't believe the 3X surge power. Remember, if anything goes wrong with the inverter, there is no service center in Nigeria. You will be on your own. My 2 cent.

It's common knowledge that low frequency inverters can handle surge up to 2 to 3 times it's rated capacity for few seconds to start up certain devices.
However it would be silly to load your device way above it's capacity because it says 3 times surge power. Common rule is to oversize your inverter or other equipments (generator etc) way above your loads. For me I will peg it at 50 to 60%.

Recently got some Lithium cells from Selina of the Shenzhen Deriy New Energy Technology. I decided to order with it the EBC Zetech battery tester which is capacable of charging and discharging lithium cells at 40A. The tester can be configured to do a charge and discharge cycle on the lithium cell and log the information to a PC.

My test param were

Discharge the batteries by 40A to 2.5v
Once the battery is at 2.5v, Charge the battery with 40A all the way to 3.65v and stop charging when current tappers off to 2A.
The total charge current in Amp Hours is recorded all through the charge process and this (thanks to charge efficiency of lithium cells) would give an indication on the capacity of the battery.

The result from 3 batteries have been impressive so far (See attached)

The battery below was able to receive 282AH at 3.65v (even though the charge current is yet to taper to 2A) All 3 batteries tested have hovered around 282+ Ah. I intend to run this for all 16 batteries and share the result. I am just posting this here in case anyone else ordered from Deriy, consider this as an initial review. I would be updating this thread once my findings are completed.

chris81964:
We escaped a major disaster here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZlF2uX630

as an aside, i am seeing multiple elements of poor support design here

1) there was no fire alarm system
2) the is too much flammable material used in the room . wood should not be part of a battery room. better for all these items to be on steel frames
the room should also have a see through door, maybe even be see through windows [all fire resistant] fire resistant wall paneling, and a fire resistant ceiling [that is called fire compartmentalization]

i would say there should be an fm200 fire suppression system put in place, but i have read that lithium -[not lipo4] batteries are extremely hard to put out when they catch fire

has a proper post mortem been conducted to confirm exactly what went wrong? from the picture it looks like the cable started burning. if so it means the dc breakers on the cable [assuming they were provided] simply started passing the current .

also what make is the actual cable?

we had a case yead back where for a month running we kept getting our fm 200 system in a server room triggered. after taking the whole place apart we found one ediat ac installer had joined the cables for an ac rather than do a straight run. so the joint kept heating up and burning the insulation.

we had an issue of this nature on a recent project. the installer ran cables to mppt direct from the panels. we advised that they get breakers. getting original breakers was another long story. but it was eventually sorted.

you also need to confirm if the manuacturer has a recommended spacing for safety.

YOU DID NOT GET LUCKY.THIS IS A WARNING

in investigations following major incidents, it always turns out there were precursor events. when you do not act on your precursor event, the next event is always larger= until you have death or significant asset loss.

i hope someone on your team is paranoid, and that the ogas at the top are willing to make the necessary financial commitments.

GloriousGbola:


as an aside, i am seeing multiple elements of poor support design here

1) there was no fire alarm system
2) the is too much flammable material used in the room . wood should not be part of a battery room. better for all these items to be on steel frames
the room should also have a see through door, maybe even be see through windows [all fire resistant] fire resistant wall paneling, and a fire resistant ceiling [that is called fire compartmentalization]

i would say there should be an fm200 fire suppression system put in place, but i have read that lithium -[not lipo4] batteries are extremely hard to put out when they catch fire

has a proper post mortem been conducted to confirm exactly what went wrong? from the picture it looks like the cable started burning. if so it means the dc breakers on the cable [assuming they were provided] simply started passing the current .

also what make is the actual cable?

we had a case yead back where for a month running we kept getting our fm 200 system in a server room triggered. after taking the whole place apart we found one ediat ac installer had joined the cables for an ac rather than do a straight run. so the joint kept heating up and burning the insulation.

we had an issue of this nature on a recent project. the installer ran cables to mppt direct from the panels. we advised that they get breakers. getting original breakers was another long story. but it was eventually sorted.

you also need to confirm if the manuacturer has a recommended spacing for safety.

YOU DID NOT GET LUCKY.THIS IS A WARNING

in investigations following major incidents, it always turns out there were precursor events. when you do not act on your precursor event, the next event is always larger= until you have death or significant asset loss.

i hope someone on your team is paranoid, and that the ogas at the top are willing to make the necessary financial commitments.

Thank you for your observations. The fire was on the AC side. The AC input breaker started the fire. Our preference is to mount the inverters on the wall but the walls could not handle the weight. Steel would have been disastrous as the wire fused together would have energized the metal and cost us all the inverters and batteries attached to the structure. We will revisit. The wood did not burn. It got singed. That is what one million naira buys you. The door was pointed out to us and we have recommended it to the client. Fire suppression was suggested now it is a priority.
Thank you for your suggestions. We will add our own early warning systems. The fire had burnt out and nobody knew there was a problem till the next day. The inverters were all online but one system refused to output.

chris81964:

Thank you for your observations. The fire was on the AC side. The AC input breaker started the fire. Our preference is to mount the inverters on the wall but the walls could not handle the weight. Steel would have been disastrous as the wire fused together would have energized the metal and cost us all the inverters and batteries attached to the structure. We will revisit. The wood did not burn. It got singed. That is what one million naira buys you. The door was pointed out to us and we have recommended it to the client. Fire suppression was suggested now it is a priority.
Thank you for your suggestions. We will add our own early warning systems. The fire had burnt out and nobody knew there was a problem till the next day. The inverters were all online but one system refused to output.

cheers sir.

if you can source your breakers direct from a schenider rep, . also same for your cables, it is best you do so

years ago i cam this close to being fked when we were supplied 70mm cable disguised as 95mm cable for our server room

May God save us from fake low quality merchants. and may God give our clients/employers/accounting dept the grace and common sense not to be swayed by cheap materials from dodgy vendors

GloriousGbola:


cheers sir.

if you can source your breakers direct from a schenider rep, . also same for your cables, it is best you do so

years ago i cam this close to being fked when we were supplied 70mm cable disguised as 95mm cable for our server room

May God save us from fake low quality merchants. and may God give our clients/employers/accounting dept the grace and common sense not to be swayed by cheap materials from dodgy vendors

Thanks with Schneider it is hit or miss. It does not seem to matter where we buy them.

GloriousGbola:


as an aside, i am seeing multiple elements of poor support design here

1) there was no fire alarm system
2) the is too much flammable material used in the room . wood should not be part of a battery room. better for all these items to be on steel frames
the room should also have a see through door, maybe even be see through windows [all fire resistant] fire resistant wall paneling, and a fire resistant ceiling [that is called fire compartmentalization]

i would say there should be an fm200 fire suppression system put in place, but i have read that lithium -[not lipo4] batteries are extremely hard to put out when they catch fire

has a proper post mortem been conducted to confirm exactly what went wrong? from the picture it looks like the cable started burning. if so it means the dc breakers on the cable [assuming they were provided] simply started passing the current .

also what make is the actual cable?

we had a case yead back where for a month running we kept getting our fm 200 system in a server room triggered. after taking the whole place apart we found one ediat ac installer had joined the cables for an ac rather than do a straight run. so the joint kept heating up and burning the insulation.

we had an issue of this nature on a recent project. the installer ran cables to mppt direct from the panels. we advised that they get breakers. getting original breakers was another long story. but it was eventually sorted.

you also need to confirm if the manuacturer has a recommended spacing for safety.

YOU DID NOT GET LUCKY.THIS IS A WARNING

in investigations following major incidents, it always turns out there were precursor events. when you do not act on your precursor event, the next event is always larger= until you have death or significant asset loss.

i hope someone on your team is paranoid, and that the ogas at the top are willing to make the necessary financial commitments.

That was intense.

Thanks for sharing.

I hope others with large installations are following.

chris81964:

Thanks with Schneider it is hit or miss. It does not seem to matter where we buy them.

Go to their website, use their distributor locator tool or their live chat.

Buy only from the distributor and you should be good.

Mine works. My RCB even tripped when there was a fault at the local transformer and I was very pleased with that.

Is there a small printer that can work with my 1kva inverter system? Please suggest if any

ozone0801:
Is there a small printer that can work with my 1kva inverter system? Please suggest if any

This is the catch. An inkjet print will work no issues. It uses very little power. But you will pay through your nose for ink. A laser jet printer will likely trip your inverter. Maybe the more recent versions will work, if you put everything else off while running them. Their cartridges cost less in the long run, but their energy costs are higher

Good afternoon all,
Can anybody recommend where I can buy distilled water to top up my tubular batteries?

Please any one with info on where to get main board for tactel 5kVA/48V or Diamond 5KVA/48V? I need this please

GloriousGbola:




YOU DID NOT GET LUCKY.THIS IS A WARNING


in investigations following major incidents, it always turns out there were precursor events. when you do not act on your precursor event, the next event is always larger= until you have death or significant asset loss.

i hope someone on your team is paranoid, and that the ogas at the top are willing to make the necessary financial commitments.

its a lucky warning, not everybody is lucky to get warnings....
very sound and professional analysis here, @ big gbola ...this ur moniker na dieeeeeee .
and taking out time to type it all.

tundebabzy:
Good afternoon all,
Can anybody recommend where I can buy distilled water to top up my tubular batteries?

if you have plenty flooded batteries, best to buy your own compact water distiller, for a country like nigeria where people are heartless to produce fake drugs..even infant/baby fake drugs....how much more distilled water for battery .

or better still buy a tds meter and test random water sources, any below 70ppm is ok for flooded battery use. you can also use the tds meter to test the bottled distilled water being sold. tds meter is cheap less than 4k naira, on jiji and ali-express

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tundebabzy:
Good afternoon all,
Can anybody recommend where I can buy distilled water to top up my tubular batteries?

If you can collect your air-conditioning water without any debris and dirt. You have distilled water. You can also run the water through a filter.
I know someone that uses well water for their tubular, I won't recommend it. The person also uses a tds to ensure the water is ok.

I use the ac water for my tubular, stopped buying distilled water a long time ago . Get a tds also.

samnaija:


If you can collect your air-conditioning water without any debris and dirt. You have distilled water. You can also run the water through a filter.
I know someone that uses well water for their tubular, I won't recommend it. The person also uses a tds to ensure the water is ok.

I use the ac water for my tubular, stopped buying distilled water a long time ago . Get a tds also.

seconded, even games store when they were operational, they had a batch of distilled water that were adulterated, I had this pointed out to them before they had to withdraw the product.

Most of the tubular battery dealers ship their batteries into Nigeria dry and then mix and fill up the electrolyte in Nigeria, most of them get their distilled water from AC. Just get the water from an AC hose and use a clean cotton, I always use new singlet for this. I use it to filter the water and you are good to go.

Glad things didn't go out of hand and as everyone else has contributed.

i will strongly suggest that you do a careful review of your inverter logs i.e. if you can access them over the internet and see what could have happen moments before the fire started.

keep safe

chris81964:
Small fire wan spoil my show today oh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jub7bT3fdyE

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zeestone99:


It's common knowledge that low frequency inverters can handle surge up to 2 to 3 times it's rated capacity for few seconds to start up certain devices.
However it would be silly to load your device way above it's capacity because it says 3 times surge power. Common rule is to oversize your inverter or other equipments (generator etc) way above your loads. For me I will peg it at 50 to 60%.

I concur !

.

Why then, did you go ahead to market such a cheap inverter with 3X surge power? Is it not a market strategy to increase sales and increase failure rate, thereby leading to further increase in sales again? You know, experience clearly states, don't surge those cheap inverters & you go ahead to market it with 3X surge power. That's wickedness. Let's call a spade a spade.

Most manufacturers of well built & expensive hybrid inverter state 2X surge power. The annoying thing is, you know the manufacturer of this inverter lied about this.

zeestone99:


It's common knowledge that low frequency inverters can handle surge up to 2 to 3 times it's rated capacity for few seconds to start up certain devices.
However it would be silly to load your device way above it's capacity because it says 3 times surge power. Common rule is to oversize your inverter or other equipments (generator etc) way above your loads. For me I will peg it at 50 to 60%.

sintolord:
Why then, did you go ahead to market such a cheap inverter with 3X surge power? Is it not a market strategy to increase sales and increase failure rate, thereby leading to further increase in sales again? You know, experience clearly states, don't surge those cheap inverters & you go ahead to market it with 3X surge power. That's wickedness. Let's call a spade a spade.

Most manufacturers of well built & expensive hybrid inverter state 2X surge power. The annoying thing is, you know the manufacturer of this inverter lied about this.

Like I said , they handle surge 2.5 to 3 times their rated capacity for few seconds. This is used to start up certain devices that requires high starting current.

Hybrids can do 1.5 times to 2 times rated capacity for surge.

You seem to be mistaking low frequency inverters for high frequency inverters.

The inverter in question that techgeek was quoting is not an hybrid inverter. It's an efficient vil power design low frequency inverter with low self consumption. They handle surge decently than the regular hybrid inverters (high frequency). It's very common knowledge.

I believe I have clarified myself enough on this topic as this is beginning to look like witch hunting. Ref to @bolded. I won't engage you any further on this topic. Thank you.

samnaija:


If you can collect your air-conditioning water without any debris and dirt. You have distilled water. You can also run the water through a filter.
I know someone that uses well water for their tubular, I won't recommend it. The person also uses a tds to ensure the water is ok.

I use the ac water for my tubular, stopped buying distilled water a long time ago . Get a tds also.

Have been using Eva table water since I installed my batteries. My installer that claim he sells distilled water always keep telling me next week(when he will have in store). Don't know the tds.

sintolord:
Why then, did you go ahead to market such a cheap inverter with 3X surge power? Is it not a market strategy to increase sales and increase failure rate, thereby leading to further increase in sales again? You know, experience clearly states, don't surge those cheap inverters & you go ahead to market it with 3X surge power. That's wickedness. Let's call a spade a spade.

Most manufacturers of well built & expensive hybrid inverter state 2X surge power. The annoying thing is, you know the manufacturer of this inverter lied about this.

Like Zeestone said, most low frequency inverters can handle 3x surge for brief seconds, hybrid 2x for about a second. The difference is that premium inverters can do the above with very low standby consumption, and better efficiency