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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 4:19pm On Apr 05, 2023
mostob:
Let me ask you a question, what do you think is the problem of our national team? why do you think we find it hard to score against a 'good' team?

poor coaching,
poor goal or chance creation training,
selfish players,
selfish players who want the glory of "I scored the goal",
poor crossers of the ball,
poor wingers who don't know how to cross,
poor passing training
poor corner kick takers
poor free kick takers
e.t.c..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:21pm On Apr 05, 2023
Kog45:
The team is predictable and only way out is for Peseiro to be more tactical in his approach to matches. I don't want to mention player X and Y are needed cuz their outputs still center on Peseiro tactics.
Thank you sir. I had to ask him since he has been screaming 'goalscoring strikers' for some time now on this thread.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:22pm On Apr 05, 2023
codemaniacs:


poor coaching,
poor goal or chance creation training,
selfish players,
selfish players who want the glory of "I scored the goal",
poor crossers of the ball,
poor wingers who don't know how to cross,
poor passing training
poor corner kick takers
poor free kick takers
e.t.c..
So do you still think Gift will give you the performance you demanded even with all these problems?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 4:48pm On Apr 05, 2023
mostob:
So do you still think Gift will give you the performance you demanded even with all these problems?

Unlike Osimhen, Gift Orban drops deeper than defenders or starts his runs from deep so he won't be offside too much like Osimhen who's offside positioning kills the S.E attacks before they even start...

it's not only about Gift or any player giving the performance demanded, its about not killing the attacks before they start due to offside and scoring the chances the S.E gets...

I want to see how many offsides the S.E gets if Osimhen does not start and if we would from any chances created during Osimhen's absence especially against a good team...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 5:01pm On Apr 05, 2023
komekn:


Statistics are at best indicative particularly when taking in context.

A quality Midfielder will and can make a defence splitting pass after dribbling past two players and deceptively causing defenders to change position. That pass gives the forward player an academic tap in for a goal.

The 95% of the oustanding exceptional quality work was done by the midfielder, that led the the goal. However, statistics will record it as a pass. It doesn't tell us the quality and or ingenuity behind the pass.

When you take the quality of the league into context we even have more questions. Making a good defence splitting of pass is a lot more difficult in the EPL and the La Liga for instance. However, that degree of difficulty is not captured by statistics.

In this regards you could make 100 passes that are accurate because you are not playing against a high pressing team and or the players contending with you are lack intensity, anticipation and quality. The quality of the passes are not captured by statistics.

You could even lob the ball long to an Onuachu type players surrounded by short defender's lacking physicality. That means 100% accuracy that's not because it's a quality pass but rather in the context of poor quality defence. Thats not captured by statistics.

A defender can spend the whole match defending because they are a poor team. Those defenders will have high statistics for blocks, tackles, headed clearances. It doesn't mean oustanding quality defenders or team work. But the opposite, that deduction is not captured by statistics.

Now let's see the CONTEXT of the Segundo division with a balanced ⚖️ quasi score card appraisal. It's important that some understanding of the quality of the league is known. Before assumptions are made .

The first 6 teams of the Segundo have some quality but not oustanding IMO. The rest are poor quality, let me explain.

Villarreal B is essentially the youth team of Villa Real or essentially the U21 team. It would be a direct comparison to any EPL U21 Academy side. It's important to not me that the age requirement has strict adherence. There will be players of 15 sometimes, most will be teenagers and a few senior players over 21 recovering from injury and or demoted.

Villarreal B have played Ponferradina twice one draw and lost 2-1 after loosing a player to red card.

Villa Real B played Wolves last year summer and beat them 2-1. Liverpool U21 played then and beat them 5-0.

Wolves U21 sit at the bottom of the EPL league 2.

I have said it repeatedly that absolutely no EPL league 2 team will beat a Championship team NO WAY NO HOW. That particular deduction is proven past and present.

I went on to say that no EPL league 2 team will beat a league one team. At the time Liverpool were to play Accrington in league one, I said here before the game Liverpool will never win.

I have watched Liverpool FC U21 as well as several other Academy team up close and personal. I also do this in Europe as well. So I don't rely on statistics but first hand appraisal, talking with coaches and even club football analysts.

The vast majority of players in this league will not get into many EPL U21 Academy teams. That is the context of thr larger% of the Segundo division.

It's not HATE to say that Nwakali is poor quality, the two academies he went to Arsenal and Porto rejected him , poor quality not good enough.

So even if he is doing great in his relegation and bankruptcy facing team. It's not a sign of quality but MEDIOCRITY. He is not SE quality there are too many players doing way better.

Without prejudice this Ponferradina team will struggle in the English National League 5th tier.

A sign of quality is sometimes the amount of transfer interest a player generates, Nwakali only generates interest here nowhere else .
Poor quality indeed. But when measured against the ones you call quality in the same league. He trumped them. Therefore if K Nwakali that you called poor quality sits on top the log, those guys should just look for another career. Maybe just join and blow trumpet for one band group. Football is not their calling.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:01pm On Apr 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Please avoid me with any of the pre-written pinnick defence notes you have already. I don't have time for that.

CAF is overseeing the CAF African Schools Football Championship and work hand in hands with the various Football associations aligned with where the reps come from.


Are you aware Pinnick and the NFF were approached for this CAF Schools competition by CAF but they ignored it? They didn't acknowledge it.

So please and please spare me your "pro pinnick" stance. I am not anti-anyone. I just don't stand for incompetence and dodgy nonsense.




I don't understand why anytime I raise a point to long into, that involves him, you all term it defence of him,

Tell me, from where the same CAF get the ideas for schools sport from, The Both U14 and 15 boys and gals cup, played during their first term is from CAF right,

Sorry to quote you, I hope you feel well now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:05pm On Apr 05, 2023
Kog45:
I wanted to brought this to your notice cuz you are very close to some of our ex internationals from Rivers and Bayelsa sides of Nigeria....the last time I heard of him was him turning to fisherman

Emma Ebiede belonged to the class of Wilson Oruma and James Obiorah that super talented Austin Okocha denied them the opportunity to really make name for themselves in eagles.

Ebiede must have been duped or spend recklessly cos he had fairly career in Europe with Henreveen.This must have led to depression and frustration to pure gin in take

I wish him soonest recovery

We still had Christian Obodo, Sunday Ibeji and Abubakar Musa. We used to produce quality creative midfielders but now they seem scarce in Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:21pm On Apr 05, 2023
@Emboldened... Well, it's because there have never been a time when Pinnick's name is dropped here that you ignore. You always have something defensive to utter whenever his name is dropped. It is well noticed by now and I am highly surprised you haven't noticed it yourself.


The point is this: CAF SFC going on currently was brought to the notice of the Pinnick-led NFF board last year. A communique sent to them but they ignored it. No interest shown at all. Finito.

do4luv14:




I don't understand why anytime I raise a point to long into, that involves him, you all term it defence of him,

Tell me, from where the same CAF get the ideas for schools sport from, The Both U14 and 15 boys and gals cup, played during their first term is from CAF right,

Sorry to quote you, I hope you feel well now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 5:25pm On Apr 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
@Emboldened... Well, it's because there have never been a time when Pinnick's name is dropped here that you ignore. You always have something defensive to utter whenever his name is dropped. It is well noticed by now and I am highly surprised you haven't noticed it yourself.


The point is this CAF SFC going on currently was brought to the notice of the Pinnick-led NFF board last year. A communique sent to them but they ignored it. No interest shown at all. Finito.


It's funny he does this. Anytime Pinnick his mentioned he either defends him outright, or find a way to absolve him of some responsibility, then claim he isn't defending.

Very funny stuff.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:36pm On Apr 05, 2023
Kog45:
I wanted to brought this to your notice cuz you are very close to some of our ex internationals from Rivers and Bayelsa sides of Nigeria....the last time I heard of him was him turning to fisherman

Emma Ebiede belonged to the class of Wilson Oruma and James Obiorah that super talented Austin Okocha denied them the opportunity to really make name for themselves in eagles.

Ebiede must have been duped or spend recklessly cos he had fairly career in Europe with Henreveen.This must have led to depression and frustration to pure gin in take

I wish him soonest recovery

I was not that close to them but was a neighbor to coach Monday Sinclair, on the same block. So many of them were visitors to Sinclair. He discovered and coached them. Even Ebiede is his boy. Then I used to be pals with old sharks fc boys who were their teammates.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:50pm On Apr 05, 2023
Remo stars sanctioned by the IMC for assaulting an official.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:52pm On Apr 05, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:37pm On Apr 05, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


I was not that close to them but was a neighbor to coach Monday Sinclair, on the same block. So many of them were visitors to Sinclair. He discovered and coached them. Even Ebiede is his boy. Then I used to be pals with old sharks fc boys who were their teammates.
I know your closeness with our own Arsene Wenger(Monday Sinclair) the man who always does his things theoretically before practicalize it. A real modern coach of old age.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:52pm On Apr 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:


Behold☝️☝️ the moniker that kickstarted the "Jibola Adebola" wave dating back to December 25 (Christmas Day), 2021 few weeks/several days before Afcon Kickoff in January 2022 (Jan 9).

None other than the Elite Troublemaker himself and former believer in Kelechi Nwakali... Chriskels 😁😁😂

And since then, the name has stuck. 🎯


Interestingly, Chriskels no longer identifies as a Nwakali fan for now grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:02pm On Apr 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:


Behold☝️☝️ the moniker that kickstarted the "Jibola Adebola" wave dating back to December 25 (Christmas Day), 2021 few weeks/several days before Afcon Kickoff in January 2022 (Jan 9).

None other than the Elite Troublemaker himself and former believer in Kelechi Nwakali... Chriskels 😁😁😂

And since then, the name has stuck. 🎯


Exactly why I added this very important info at @blue emboldened☝️☝️😂😂😂

I am up to date. 😂😂😂


Danielnino00:


Interestingly, Chriskels no longer identifies as a Nwakali fan for now grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:04pm On Apr 05, 2023
do4luv14:




I don't understand why anytime I raise a point to long into, that involves him, you all term it defence of him,

Tell me, from where the same CAF get the ideas for schools sport from, The Both U14 and 15 boys and gals cup, played during their first term is from CAF right,

Sorry to quote you, I hope you feel well now
do4Luv my man,Pinnick do you strong thing o.... Kai you like the man o, no homo... Just pure likeness,hope the man sabi you o..Sincerely nothing wrong with you having soft spot for Pinnick.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:07pm On Apr 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:


Exactly why I added this very important info at @blue emboldened☝️☝️😂😂😂

I am up to date. 😂😂😂


How person go give name to him pikin and abandoned him... Okay me I wan adopt Jibola.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ihenzy(m): 7:08pm On Apr 05, 2023
codemaniacs:







Orban was greatly needed during the last window.

because anyone who watched the S.E since last year AFCON defeat to Tunisia and World Cup qualifier draw against Ghana knows that the S.E does not score against good teams and that means the S.E needs goalscorers like Orban, Boniface e.t.c and midfielders like Nwakali, Onyedika, Yusuf e.t.c and wingers like Ejuke to score goals.

Orban will reduce and protect Osimhen or Moffi chances of getting injured because he can bench either of them or be subbed on at 60mins for any of them don't forget Cancelo was benched by an 18 years old player because Pep wanted to do so.

Osimhen or Moffi can be benched if the coach ( or NFF ) wants to bench either them in order to test other goalscoring strikers and protect Osimhen or Moffi from injury.

Besides Osimhen has not been scoring against good national teams and I sometimes feel as if his lack of goals against strong national teams is sabotaging the S.E.

The S.E is not England that has Ivan Toney but will let Harry Kane play the whole match due to bias and won't even test if both Ivan Toney and Kane can start the match together.
GNB is now a strong national team right?
Besides how can you say we don't have goal scorers. How sure are you orban would have been different.
The ejuke you mentioned when last did you hear about him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:13pm On Apr 05, 2023
Lol... Uncle Kog. You sure say you wanna adopt Jibola Adebola? Okay, I see, you are looking for one to become a youngrr bro to your first adopted son, Big Awo. 😁

Well, that's okay. Just contact Chriskels with your lawyers for official transfer of guardianship. Lol😂

Kog45:
How person go give name to him pikin and abandoned him... Okay me I wan adopt Jibola.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:17pm On Apr 05, 2023
Meanwhile, Chelsea fans club of NL. E be like say Frank Lampard will be making a return to una club on an interim basis ooo till end of the season.

Boehly would appoint a substantive manager ahead of the summer but Lampard is likely to take the reins AGAIN for now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:17pm On Apr 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Lol... Uncle Kog. You sure say you wanna adopt Jibola Adebola? Okay, I see, you are looking for one to become a youngrr bro to your first adopted son, Big Awo. 😁

Well, that's okay. Just contact Chriskels with your lawyers for official transfer of guardianship. Lol😂

No wahala Doctor

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:20pm On Apr 05, 2023
Ihenzy:

GNB is now a strong national team right?
Besides how can you say we don't have goal scorers. How sure are you orban would have been different.
The ejuke you mentioned when last did you hear about him

S.E does not have players that score consistently for the national team..

GNB are a good team.. S.E can not know if Orban would have been different because Orban hasn't been given the chance to represent them.. Ejuke has knee injury, Ejuke knows how to cross the ball which is something S.E current wingers like Moses Simon and Chukwueze fail to do...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:21pm On Apr 05, 2023
Calvin Bassey on the bench for Ajax in their Dutch KNVB Cup Semifinal vs Feyenoord.

Ajax just took the lead through Dusan Tadic after 14mins. Game on.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:23pm On Apr 05, 2023
All the best 🤝🏻🤝🏻

So soon, I go begin dey call you Papa Jibola abi na Pa Adebola 😂😂

Kog45:
No wahala Doctor

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:27pm On Apr 05, 2023
Cyriel Kolawole Dessers on the bench for Cremonese in their Coppa Italia Semifinals 1st leg tie vs Fiorentina.

David Okereke out on the sidelines with a discomfort.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:31pm On Apr 05, 2023
Moses Simon on the bench for Nantes in their Coupe de France Semifinals tie vs PSG Slayers, Olympique Lyonnais.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:33pm On Apr 05, 2023
Igoh Ogbu currently in action from the start for Slavia Prague as they take on Bohemians Prague in the Czech Cup Semifinals.

15mims gone already and Bohemians lead by 1 goal to nil.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:37pm On Apr 05, 2023
comodo:

Kelechi Nwakali is Ponferradina FC best player. That's an undisputed fact. And he will move in the summer. He keeps it simple and makes it look easy for the team in MF. His passes are always spot on. I think maturity has started setting in.

After 4 years of consistent regression in the Segunda division he goes into deeper mediocrity. And found his level in bottom of the Segundo division

Ponferradina is bankruptcy team in the relegation zone permanently.

Villarreal B which is essentially the U21 team is in number 9 in the Segunda division.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:37pm On Apr 05, 2023
GK, Sebastian Osigwe in goal for FC Lugano in the Swiss Schweizer Cup Semifinals vs Servette FC.

21 mins played so far. Still goalless.


Modified:

Servette just scored. Osigwe concedes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 7:53pm On Apr 05, 2023
komekn:


After 4 years of consistent regression in the Segunda division he goes into deeper mediocrity. And found his level in bottom of the Segundo division

Ponferradina is bankruptcy team in the relegation zone permanently.

Villarreal B which is essentially the U21 team is in number 9 in the Segunda division.



Komekn. Stop playing God. You did the same with Osimhen. He rubbed potopoto on ur face.
You castigated Sadiq. He dumped u in dustbin.
Now Nwakali. I hope u no go come here begin tell us how u adviced him to drop 2 levels to reinvent himself. It no dey hard you. No change lane oh.
The present undeniable fact is Kc Nwakali is rated the 3rd best MF in La liga Smartbank.
The 3rd best player in La liga 2.
The 2nd best in long ball accuracy.
Notwithstanding that his team is always on the backfoot but he keeps churning out scintilating performances week in week out.
It dey loud bro.
Stats are there. Unfortunately you no go fit rig am.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:59pm On Apr 05, 2023
comodo:

Poor quality indeed. But when measured against the ones you call quality in the same league. He trumped them. Therefore if K Nwakali that you called poor quality sits on top the log, those guys should just look for another career. Maybe just join and blow trumpet for one band group. Football is not their calling.

If I make a statement it's not ⚓ anchored on sentiment and vague without any specifics.

1. Name the players I called quality in the Segunda please ❓l really do not recall any.

2. Has Nwakali trumped any Nigerian player and on what units of measurement ❓❓
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:04pm On Apr 05, 2023
codemaniacs:


Unlike Osimhen, Gift Orban drops deeper than defenders or starts his runs from deep so he won't be offside too much like Osimhen who's offside positioning kills the S.E attacks before they even start...

it's not only about Gift or any player giving the performance demanded, its about not killing the attacks before they start due to offside and scoring the chances the S.E gets...

I want to see how many offsides the S.E gets if Osimhen does not start and if we would from any chances created during Osimhen's absence especially against a good team...
Dropping deep doesn't mean a player won't be offside. Offside is all about timing and quick release of the ball. How many chances did we created during that GNB double header?
National team is not an auto factory where you test run machines so your proposition about dropping Osimehn to know the number of offsides will not work.

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